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Kilika
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« on: May 08, 2012, 05:02:23 am »

"For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which [be] the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat." Hebrews 5:12 (KJB)


What are those principles? Clearly it is considered "milk", which is the basics of the Christian belief. Without getting ahead of ourselves in trying to do good works, we need to look at just what those "first principles" are to keep us on track spiritually, to regularly "examine yourselves"...

"Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?" 2 Corinthians 13:5 (KJB)

So then when we do examine ourselves, what do we look for? I believe we are to look to how we are behaving in any given moment. And what is the "bottom line" for how a Christian should behave?

34   But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the Sadducees to silence, they were gathered together. 
35   Then one of them, [which was] a lawyer, asked [him a question], tempting him, and saying, 
36   Master, which [is] the great commandment in the law? 
37   Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 
38   This is the first and great commandment. 
39   And the second [is] like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 
40   On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Matthew 22:34-40 (KJB)


To love God and to love your neighbor is what I believe to be the "first principles of the oracles of God".
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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2012, 09:56:48 am »

Every time I read that beginning passage in Hebrews 5(which the OP posted above), for some reason I have had trouble seeing what it means.

I think it's starting to make sense now - no wonder why the modern-day 501c3 system is so bad - there's just no love of God with all of their heart, soul, strength, and mind by these pastors(as well as love for the pews), and for that matter too you don't see love for the brethren in the pews as well.

The way these pastors bring in false teachers and show more love for the offering plates, shows their obvious lack of love for God with all of their heart.

Anyhow, thank you for this clarification over what the first principles of the oracles of God are.
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« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2012, 02:00:34 pm »

Heb 5:12  For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
Heb 5:13  For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
Heb 5:14  But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.


Ok, today, I was having a pm talk with a brethren here, and milk/strong meat came up in our conversation.

In the context of this passage, what are they really talking about here, in terms of milk and strong meat?
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« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2012, 04:43:26 am »

2   As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby: 
3   If so be ye have tasted that the Lord [is] gracious
1 Peter 2:2,3 (KJB)
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« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2012, 10:45:54 am »

Is 28:9  Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
10  For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
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