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« on: May 22, 2012, 05:30:54 am »

Progressing toward Moral Darkness

A fashionable name for the left these days is "progressive."  The use of this word hints that the progressive has already passed the rest of us and is moving on to some place where the normal rules of reality don't apply.  Is it the Garden of Eden?  Atlantis?  Oz?

What will life be like in this destination?  Will the moral standards be compatible with the society we want?  How do progressive values compare with the traditional American ethical standards from the founding of the United States and from the major religions?

From the Founding:

The moral underpinnings of the United States of America were beautifully and concisely expressed in the Declaration of Independence:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Can we rely on the progressives to protect those unalienable rights derived from our nature as human beings?  Will they uphold the standards in the Declaration of Independence: Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness?

Life - Progressives claim to be compassionate.  Do the societies they create value life?  Lenin's society didn't:

We would be deceiving both ourselves and the people if we concealed from the masses the necessity of a desperate, bloody war of extermination, as the immediate task of the coming revolutionary action.i

Nor did Che Guevara's road to his ideal society:

What we affirm is that we must proceed along the path of liberation even if this costs millions of atomic victims... advancing fearlessly towards the hecatomb which signifies final redemption.ii

No wonder leftists like to call themselves a different name.  The progressive label obscures any link to past disasters.  "Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot -- oh, no, that's not us!  We progressives will be a kindly wizard, not the Wicked Witch of the West.  Our society will be different."

Even if progressives avoid a hard-left turn, they have not been a kindly wizard on the way to their destination.  Hatred, vitriol, and even death threats have been used against those who oppose them.  Targets have included Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, the Koch brothers, Joe the Plumber, President Bush, Laura Bush, Gov. Scott Walker, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, Rep. Michele Bachmann, and, of course, the Tea Party.  If you are not one of the progressives, or willing to submit, you are the enemy.

Liberty - The progressive movement uses government to solve problems, inevitably leading to coercive policies.  The Revolutionary War was fought in opposition to, among other things, the aptly named Coercive Acts.  The left now have their "coercive acts," such as the 2,700-page ObamaCare and the 848-page Dodd-Frank Act.  Coercion extents into the smallest details of daily life: the regulation of lemonade stands, children's school lunches, what light bulb and what kind of car you can buy.

For the progressive, every problem in life (they are always finding new ones) demands government action and new regulations.  The progressive store coming to your community will be selling mostly ropes and chains.  Mark Levin discusses the progressive's problems with liberty in his book, Liberty and Tyranny:

For the Statist, liberty is not a blessing but the enemy.  It is not possible to achieve Utopia if individuals are free to go their own way.  The individual must be dehumanized and his nature delegitimized.

The pursuit of Happiness - An individual pursuing his own happiness reveals qualities, like initiative, self-reliance, and desiring the fruits of his labor, which interfere with the progressive's plans.  The progressive goal of equal outcomes requires restraint of the pursuit of happiness until everyone is happy (they never are).  As long as the left discover someone who isn't happy (they always find such people), it would be "unfair" for the rest of us to pursue happiness.  That, of course, requires restraint, coercion, taxation, and regulation -- only "temporarily," of course, while the progressive moves "forward."

From the Religions:

Huston Smith, in his book The World's Religions, lists four ethical rules common to all major religions: the prohibition of murder, thieving, lying, and adultery.  How do the progressives do?

Murder was already covered under the topic "life," and adultery is best saved for a later (lengthy) discussion of social values.  Congress might have settled for 2,700 pages, but this magazine's editors would not.

Thieving: The cornerstone of progressivism, the redistribution of wealth, is nothing more than government-sanctioned thievery, or more precisely extortion.  That the thief can hide behind a third party, government, and claim to be the mere recipient of charity, does not change the fact that what is being received has not been given voluntarily.  This alone, it would seem, would rule out any religious person being a progressive.  A Christian, for example, would be violating two of the Ten Commandments: thou shalt not steal, and thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house.  But the progressive says, "We're only helping the poor!"  Helping them to do what...be thieves, to spend the rest of their lives as the recipient of stolen goods?

Lying: If the progressives are to be believed, Speaker Pelosi was never briefed on CIA enhanced interrogation, Bill Clinton never had "sexual relations with that woman," John Edwards never had an affair with Rielle Hunter, Robert Bork was a segregationist, Elizabeth Warren is Native American, and John Kerry was in Cambodia in 1968.

If the current progressive hero (you know, the one who still had the perfect crease in his trousers after visiting all 57 states) is to be believed, the deficit would already be cut in half, the American people would have had five days to review bills before the president signed them, the border fence would be basically complete, Obama never worked for ACORN, Bill Ayers was just "a guy who lives in my neighborhood," and, of course, free enterprise has never worked.

If progressive politicians are to be believed, ObamaCare will reduce the deficit, cost less than a trillion dollars, lower insurance premiums, let you keep your current insurance, create 4 million new jobs, strengthen the private market, and make Medicare more financially sound.  Medicare benefits won't be cut, no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions, and ("Are you serious?") ObamaCare on the whole is constitutional.

A bigger lie than all these, of course, is for a member of Congress to approve a bill that hasn't been read!

The left fail the ethical standards considered here.  The evidence suggests that where the progressives are headed, not everyone's life is valued, there is little liberty, and the pursuit of happiness can be restrained for the "good" of others.  In the progressive Whereverville, theft is government-sanctioned, and lying is merely a strategy to some end.  These progressive "values" are fundamentally opposed to American values.  The progressives seem to believe the perfection of their imaginary destination justifies whatever means can be used to get there.

To continue progressing on the current path is to descend into moral darkness.  To paraphrase a line from the movie Cool Hand Luke:  "What we've got here is a failure of values."



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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2012, 05:26:14 am »

Democrats ‘Adopted The Sins of Romans 1 As Their Platform’

Evangelical pastor and author John MacArthur said that the Democratic Party has “adopted the sins of Romans 1 as their platform."

“And as you know,” MacArthur told his Southern California congregation on Sept. 30, “I’m not one to talk about politics as such, but I was essentially amazed that one of the historic parties here in the United States adopted the sins of Romans 1 as their platform. This is a new day in our country. Parties which used to differ on economics now differ dramatically on issues that invade the realm of God’s law and morality.”

MacArthur is an author, pastor of Grace Community Church in Sun Valley, Calif., president of The Master’s College and Seminary, and a teacher at Grace to You media ministry.

video: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/pastor-john-macarthur-democrats-adopted-sins-romans-1-their-platform

“In an ideal situation, their platform would mean that the government passes out condoms so people can fornicate at will,” said MacArthur. “For those who happen to get pregnant in the process, the platform advocates that you kill the baby at the will of the mother, up and including the ninth month.”

“At the same time,” he said, “it advocates homosexual marriage, which is an oxymoron, an utter impossibility, and a gross violation of the law of God. And then, to add to that, the murder of abortion and then the platform originally leaving God out. All of that is Romans 1.

"Romans 1 says God will judge, God has judged, throughout human history, nations that experience sexual freedom," he said. "Romans Chapter 1 lays that out clearly. The wrath of God is revealed from Heaven against those who advocate sexual freedoms, sexual conduct outside of marriage. And that's an indication of a demise of a nation.

"And then Romans 1 also says God will judge those nations that advocate homosexual behavior, men with men, women with women, doing what is unnatural," said Pastor MacArthur. "They are also haters of God, haters of God."

The Democratic Party voted to include support for same-sex marriage in the party’s platform at the 2012 Democratic National Convention in Charlotte, N.C.  At the convention, the party also affirmed its endorsement of Obamacare, which includes a regulation requiring virtually all health-care plans to cover, without co-pay, sterilizations, contraceptives, and abortion-inducing drugs.

Upon approving the platform, the audience initially “booed” a reference to God, although the mention of God was ultimately kept in the party’s platform.

But MacArthur is not the first person to not the contrast between the Christian views espoused in St. Paul's Letter to the Romans and Democratic Party views on such issues as homosexual marriage and abortion is not new one.

As CNSNews.com reported in 2008, then-Senator Barack Obama (D-Ill.) told a crowd at a campaign stop in Nelsonville, Ohio that the Sermon on the Mount is “more central” to his faith “than an obscure passage in Romans.”

"I don't think it [a same-sex union] should be called marriage,” Obama said, “But I think that it is a legal right that they should have that is recognized by the state. If people find that controversial, then I would just refer them to the Sermon on the Mount, which I think is, in my mind, for my faith, more central than an obscure passage in Romans."

Three days later, Obama told ABC’s Good Morning America co-host Robin Roberts that his views on gay marriage were “evolving” and that the issue of gay marriage is also an issue of “how we treat other people.” Citing his Christian faith, Obama added that the root of his faith is “not only Christ sacrificing himself on our behalf,” but also the Golden Rule: “Do to others as you would have them do to you.”

In Romans 1, it states:

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2012, 09:51:55 am »

Democrats ‘Adopted The Sins of Romans 1 As Their Platform’

Evangelical pastor and author John MacArthur said that the Democratic Party has “adopted the sins of Romans 1 as their platform."

“And as you know,” MacArthur told his Southern California congregation on Sept. 30, “I’m not one to talk about politics as such, but I was essentially amazed that one of the historic parties here in the United States adopted the sins of Romans 1 as their platform. This is a new day in our country. Parties which used to differ on economics now differ dramatically on issues that invade the realm of God’s law and morality.”

MacArthur is an author, pastor of Grace Community Church in Sun Valley, Calif., president of The Master’s College and Seminary, and a teacher at Grace to You media ministry.

video: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/pastor-john-macarthur-democrats-adopted-sins-romans-1-their-platform


Well, so did the Republican Party, and the Southern Baptist Convention to boot - does MacArthur(and others) have any idea that there's the Log Cabin Republicans? Wasn't it the Republican-controlled Senate that struck down the added ammendment bill to outlaw gay marriage in 2004? Weren't the last 2 GOP Presidential candidates favor gay rights? Wasn't Ronald Reagan's administration investigated for running a call boy service?

Also, MacArthur has some major doctrinal issues of his own.
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