The Subtle Prepping For War Against Israel

[Kilika]

I post this because it appear to me to be a cover story for the movement of materials to the Middle East under the guise of a threat from Iran, when in fact, I think it's more likely this is arming for a battle against Israel. When those planes take off, who's to say which direction they go? East or West? Makes the initial claims of what this stuff is for kind of irrelevent to me.

As I see it, they will use it for what they want. Iran is not a threat to the Middle East, or to Saudi Arabia. If Iran went after Saudi, they'd get nuked in order to protect that oil. Prophecy clearly shows us the threat is to Israel from the "kings of the east". That I take as meaning the Arab/Muslim world, which includes both Iran and Saudi Arabia...and Syria....and Egypt...


http://news.yahoo.com/saudi-arabia-inks-3-billion-trainer-planes-deal-125538884--finance.html

Saudi Arabia inks $3 billion trainer planes deal
By ADAM SCHRECK | Associated Press – 5 hrs ago

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Saudi Arabia said Wednesday it has signed a $3 billion deal with the United Kingdom to buy air force training planes, beefing up the Gulf nation's defense capabilities as regional tensions rise.

The deal includes 22 Hawk advanced jet trainers made by Britain's BAE Systems PLC, the defense contractor said.

Saudi Arabia will also receive 55 Swiss-made Pilatus PC-21 propeller-driven trainers, as well as simulators, ground equipment, training materials and spare parts as part of the package, according to BAE and the official Saudi Press Agency.

The deal "will have a significant impact on the qualification of Saudi air crews to be able to use fighter aircraft ... with efficiency and professionalism," an unnamed Saudi defense official told SPA. The official valued the deal at $3 billion.

Riyadh is fortifying its military capabilities to counter a perceived threat from regional rivals, particularly Iran.

Late last year, the U.S. finalized the sale of $30 billion worth of F-15SA fighter jets to Saudi Arabia. That deal included 84 new fighter jets and upgrades for 70 more. It was part of an immense $60 billion arms package with Saudi Arabia that includes helicopters, missiles, bombs, radar warning systems and other equipment.

The planes in the UK deal will likely be used to train pilots to fly planes Riyadh already has on order. Saudi Arabia signed a deal with Britain in 2007 to buy 72 Eurofighter Typhoon fighters, which are partly made by BAE.

BAE, Europe's largest defense contractor, expects the less sophisticated PC-21 planes will begin arriving in 2014. It plans to deliver the first Hawks in 2016.

[Mark]

I still put my money on Israel. Every time

[Psalm 51:17]

I still put my money on Israel. Every time

Touche

[Kilika]

25   For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. 
26   And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 
27   For this [is] my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. 
28   As concerning the gospel, [they are] enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, [they are] beloved for the fathers' sakes. 
29   For the gifts and calling of God [are] without repentance. 
30   For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief: 
31   Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. 
32   For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all. 
33   O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable [are] his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
34   For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor? 
35   Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again? 
36   For of him, and through him, and to him, [are] all things: to whom [be] glory for ever. Amen. 
Romans 11:25-36 (KJB)

[Psalm 51:17]

^^

Beware of the modern-day church that is buying into this replacement theology nonsense, saying how the church has replaced Israel. It clearly says otherwise in scripture(especially the passage posted above), but somehow the modern-day church has twisted it to make it look like it's not talking about the nation of Israel.

Don't know how they did it, b/c like said again, scripture clearly doesn't preach replacement theology. *shrugs* Guess they're more concerned over obeying their 501c3 bosses.

[Christian40]

Israel is a Jewish democratic nation 1/19th the size of California, and is one of the
smallest nations on the face of the earth. With only about 8,000 sq. miles of land mass it
is roughly two times the size of Rhode Island. Israel is 260 miles at its longest, has a 112-
mile coastline, is 60 miles at its widest, and between 3 and 9 miles at its narrowest. The
nation of Israel is surrounded by twenty-two hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships that are
640 times her size and 60 times her population. Arab propagandists call Israel
"expansionist." There is NO truth to this statement as Israel, occupies one-sixth of one
percent of the lands called Arab. There are 13 million Jews in the world (almost 5 million
fewer than they were in 1939) and 300 million Arabs and 1.4 billion Muslims.

http://www.jewishindy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=9488

[Kilika]

Well that puts it in perspective!

13 million Jews and 1.4 billion Muslims, and they call Israel expansionists? That's right up there with the claim the jewish temple never existed.

As for their neighbors, exactly, they are surrounded by their enemies, especially with the changes in Egypt. Except for the small sliver of land called Israel, the entire Middle East is either Arabic, or related and Muslim. Even the Persians went Muslim.



http://www.freeworldmaps.net/middleeast/political.html

[Boldhunter]

http://www.wnd.com/2013/02/this-is-a-match-made-in-hell/

N. Korea & Iran united? 

[Psalm 51:17]

http://www.wnd.com/2013/02/this-is-a-match-made-in-hell/

N. Korea & Iran united? 

WND tends to sensationalize quite a bit(and keeps their readers in the false left/right paradigm). However, the writer of this article is Joel Rosenberg. Rosenberg is an end times Christian watchman who has some pretty bad doctrinal issues. But nonetheless when it comes to reporting current events, I've yet to see him lie the least bit, much less exagerrate. So there's probably truth to this story.

'This is a match made in hell'
 
Joel Rosenberg: North Korea, Iran
'working very, very closely' on nukes

Earlier this month, North Korea conducted what appears to be its largest and most sophisticated nuclear test to date, but what may also be emerging from the story is the extent that Iran and North Korea are colluding in their efforts to grow their nuclear programs.
 
One of the most telling indicators of this collaboration may be the reported presence of Mohsen Fakhrizadeh Mahabadi at the North Korean test. Mahabadi is the chief Iranian nuclear scientist and rarely travels outside of Iran.
 
That prospect is very troubling to foreign-policy expert and accomplished fiction and nonfiction author Joel C. Rosenberg. He is the author of “The Twelfth Imam” trilogy. The final installment of the trilogy, “Damascus Countdown,” debuts March 5.
 
“That is further, I would say confirmation, but certainly raises further concern that North Korea is actually doing the testing for Iran. In other words, Iran would essentially be paying for North Korea to be its research and development system, both for ballistic missiles but also for warheads,” Rosenberg told WND. “So Iran might be assembling a bomb right now. We don’t know that for sure. North Korea might be providing the data for how to test it and make sure that it works. This convergence, this collaboration, between Iran and North Korea is exceedingly dangerous for the United States but also clearly for Israel and for the rest of the Middle East.”
 
Rosenberg said his analysis is far from speculation, and the cozy nuclear relationship between Iran and North Korea is well documented.
 
“North Korea and Iran are working very, very closely. They have been for years. In fact, they even signed an agreement, a treaty back in 2011 to work on nuclear issues between North Korea and Iran,” Rosenberg said.
 
Outside of their shared desire to acquire nuclear weapons and a mutual loathing of the United States, there wouldn’t seem to be much in common between an atheistic communist state and the theocratic Muslim regime in Iran. Rosenberg said their alliance helps both sides address glaring problems.
 
“It seems odd but here’s the bottom line. Like anything in Washington, follow the money,” Rosenberg said.
 
“North Korea is starving for cash, but it has nuclear technology and has already tested nuclear weapons several times,” he said. “Iran has plenty of cash, not the people but the government. It’s starving for hard data of what a nuclear test looks like without inviting an American or Israeli airstrike before Iran can get its weapons built and ready to launch. This is a match made in hell.”
 
The U.S. and other nations have attempted to convince and entice North Korea to abandon its nuclear program over the past two decades with little success to show for it. Rosenberg said efforts to talk Iran out of developing its nukes is an even more fruitless endeavor.
 
“These aren’t just radical Shia Muslims. They have an eschatology, an end times theology they’ve spoken openly about that the end of the world is almost here. The so-called Islamic messiah, known as the twelfth imam, is going to come and reveal himself on earth at any moment,” Rosenberg said. “The way to hasten or accelerate this appearance of this twelfth imam is to annihilate two countries – Israel, which they call the Little Satan, and the United States, which they call the Great Satan.
 
“From the perspective of the leaders in Tehran, they believe they are being driven by an end-times theology, and there’s no way that they’re going to back off  from that. They want to bring about their so-called messiah and a global Islamic kingdom or caliphate that they’ve been talking about for centuries,” Rosenberg said.
 
He said this mindset is not shared by most of the people in Iran or even most of the people in government. As a result, he said a few options exist to diminish the Iranian nuclear threat since sanctions seem to give the Iranians even more resolve.
 
“The only way to dissuade them is to eliminate those leaders with a revolution or an assassination or a series of them or neutralize the Iranian program,” said Rosenberg, who believes Obama’s upcoming trip to Israel and other nations in the region is specifically designed to find a strategy to neutralize the Iranian threat.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/02/this-is-a-match-made-in-hell/#t0juqkffoIyKHPcF.99

[Christian40]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=powBp9QO5ks&list=UU_6yk4Q5RMk1MCUj5A2a-jw&index=3