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« Reply #270 on: December 18, 2012, 05:21:11 pm »

http://palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=157&doc_id=8164

New Fatah logo erases Israel

Official logo celebrating Fatah's 48th anniversary
includes map that shows all of Israel as "Palestine"


by Itamar Marcus and Nan Jacques Zilberdik

12/12/12



The official Palestinian Authority daily published a picture of the official logo chosen by Fatah for celebrations marking the movement's 48th anniversary. The logo features various symbols, including a map of "Palestine" that includes all of Israel, the number 48, the Palestinian flag, and the slogan for the 48th anniversary: "The state and the victory."

Palestinian Media Watch has documented that official PA maps do not acknowledge Israel's existence and mark all of Israel as "Palestine." The maps appear in all official frameworks including schools, government offices, official PA media, logos, at events and in official documents.

Other symbols central to Fatah ideology also appear in the logo, including a rifle and a key symbolizing the Palestinian claim of ownership to houses within Israel (see letters in yellow). The pattern in the map is reminiscent of the Palestinian keffiyeh-scarf. The dove breaking the chain symbolizes the freeing of all Palestinian prisoners. The golden dome represents both Islam and the Palestinian claim to Jerusalem.

The following is the article announcing the new logo in the official PA daily:

"Senior Fatah official in the Gaza Strip, Yahya Rabah, stressed that the movement this year will hold a big, central rally in the Gaza Strip on the day of the 48th anniversary of the beginning of the Palestinian revolution. Rabah explained to Ma'an that the event will be held considering the atmosphere of reconciliation and unity that has prevailed in the Palestinian arena in the last few weeks following the accomplishments in the battlefield (i.e., the Hamas-Israel military conflict in Gaza November 2012) and the accomplishments at the UN (i.e., UN vote granting "Palestine" observer status). The organizing committee for the 48th anniversary of the Fatah movement approved this year's main anniversary logo... [The rally] will take place in Gaza to mark the 48th anniversary of the modern Palestinian revolution under the slogan 'the state and the victory.'"
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« Reply #271 on: December 20, 2012, 05:05:46 am »

Human Rights Watch: Israel violated laws of war by targeting media in recent Gaza operation

Human Rights Watch says Israeli army attacks on journalists and media facilities in the Gaza Strip during last month's military operation violated the laws of war.

Two Palestinian cameramen were killed and at least 10 media personnel were wounded in the offensive, which was launched after weeks of rocket attacks on Israel. The Israeli government says each of the targets was a legitimate military objective.

A statement released Thursday by the New York-based rights group says it found no indications that these targets were valid military objectives.

Sarah Leah Whitson, the Mideast director at HRW, says that "just because Israel says a journalist was a fighter or a TV station was a command center does not make it so."

The Israeli military had no immediate comment on the report.

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Im pretty sure, in war, that enemy propaganda and intelligence sources are legit targets, actually in WAR, there are no rules. 
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Israeli PM vows to build in Jerusalem despite criticism

- Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Wednesday his government would press ahead with expanding Jewish settlements around Jerusalem despite Western criticism of its plan to build 6,000 more homes in territory Palestinians seek for a state.

In addition to several thousand housing units approved earlier this month, Israeli media reported that initial approval was granted on Wednesday for construction of another 3,400 units in Jerusalem and in the West Bank.

more: http://news.yahoo.com/israeli-pm-vows-build-jerusalem-despite-criticism-160010139.html



Israel moves to further seal off Jerusalem from West Bank

Israeli officials approved plans for 2,612 homes on Givat HaMatos, a hill between Jerusalem and Bethlehem. Critics say the move would so fragment Palestinian areas that drawing borders of a future state would be unworkable.

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« Reply #273 on: December 20, 2012, 02:21:36 pm »

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Im pretty sure, in war, that enemy propaganda and intelligence sources are legit targets, actually in WAR, there are no rules.

Pretty much.

And FOX of course fails to mention that a terrorist(s) was hiding in that media center, which has been admitted to by Palestinian leaders.
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« Reply #274 on: December 21, 2012, 09:44:55 am »

http://www.timesofisrael.com/palestinians-aim-to-change-the-rules-of-the-game-harness-international-commuity-to-isolate-israel/

Palestinians aim to change the rules, harness international community to isolate Israel

If Netanyahu is reelected, PA officials are set to advance war crimes charges and end security cooperation in the West Bank

12/20/12

AMALLAH, West Bank (AP) — Weeks ahead of the Israeli elections, Palestinian officials are already plotting a series of tough steps against Israel to be taken if, as polls predict, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is re-elected and peace efforts remain stalled.
 
Emboldened by their newly upgraded status at the United Nations, the Palestinians are talking of filing war crimes charges against Israel, staging mass demonstrations in the West Bank, encouraging the international community to impose sanctions, and ending the security cooperation that has helped preserve quiet in recent years.
 
These plans, combined with growing international impatience with Israeli settlement construction on occupied land, could spell trouble and international isolation for the Israeli leader.
 
In a series of interviews with The Associated Press, a number of Palestinian officials all voiced a similar theme: Following the UN General Assembly’s recognition of “Palestine” as a nonmember observer state in November, the status quo cannot continue.
 
“2013 will see a new Palestinian political track. There will be new rules in our relationship with Israel and the world,” said Hussam Zumlot, an aide to President Mahmoud Abbas.
 
Israeli-Palestinian peace talks broke down shortly before Netanyahu’s election in early 2009 and have remained frozen throughout his term, mostly, the Palestinians say, due to the dispute over Israel’s construction of settlements in east Jerusalem and the West Bank. The Palestinians claim the areas, along with the Gaza Strip, for a future state. Israel captured the areas in the 1967 Six Day War.
 
The Palestinians have demanded that Israel halt settlement construction before negotiations can resume, saying the continued building is a show of bad faith. Netanyahu says talks should resume without preconditions, and notes that a 10-month partial freeze on construction he imposed two years ago failed to bring about substantive negotiations.
 
Frustrated with the impasse, the Palestinians turned to the United Nations for recognition of an independent state in the West Bank, east Jerusalem and Gaza. Israel, which withdrew from Gaza in 2005, rejects a return to its 1967 lines.
 
Although the UN vote did not change the situation on the ground, it had deep implications. Opposed by just nine countries, it amounted to a strong international endorsement of the Palestinian position on future borders. It also cleared the way for them to join international agencies to press their grievances against Israel.
 
Netanyahu has accused the Palestinians of bypassing direct negotiations.
 
“One would hope we will in fact see in 2013 the re-emergence of the Israeli-Palestinian negotiating process,” said Netanyahu’s spokesman, Mark Regev. “There is no substitute for direct talks. You’re not going to make peace in resolutions at the United Nations or other international forums.”
 
At the heart of the deadlock are the huge gaps between the two sides’ conditions. Netanyahu has embraced the idea of establishing a Palestinian state alongside Israel. Without action soon, the thinking goes, Israel will find itself in permanent control of millions of disenfranchised Palestinians, threatening its status as a democracy with a Jewish majority.
 
Palestinian officials say they are hopeful that a formula for restarting talks can be found after Israel’s election on January 22, perhaps through a new initiative from President Barack Obama.
 
The Palestinians have begun to speak of a trial, six-month negotiating period. Azzam al-Ahmed, a top aide to Abbas, said Arab diplomats will present the plan in Western capitals, Russia and China next month. But with the Palestinians insistent on a settlement freeze, and opinion polls forecasting a new hardline Israeli coalition headed by Netanyahu, expectations are low.
 
The Palestinian officials said they will not rush toward any punitive measure, but they are determined not to stand pat.
 
“We have to prepare ourselves for a long and tough battle,” added Yasser Abed Rabbo, secretary-general of the Palestine Liberation Organization, the Palestinians’ top decision-making body. “We will use all the political tools available.”

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« Reply #275 on: December 23, 2012, 06:18:54 am »

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11/13/12

You Can Believe God Will Bring The Jews Home.
 
Anti-Semitic hatred in Europe is not only increasing but in places like Norway has been successful in running all the Jews out of the country. With only a few hundred Jews left in Norway and all of them now reporting that they are leaving as well for fear of their lives. Read recent article HERE.
 
The Neo-n@zis in Germany are forcing Jews in parts of Germany to live in fear, and Jewish men dare not wear their Kippots (head covering) many have been beaten and Synagogues have been brunt down much like the 1930's and 40's.

France the largest concentration of European Jews has seen a several hundred percent increase in violence towards Jews and Jewish businesses over the past year. French Jew who can afford has bought homes and apartments in Israel as a last minute place to run to. Many American Jews have been doing the same thing.

In London they have built a new Mosque that holds up to 40,000 Muslim worshippers and it is not uncommon to see streets down town closed because the Muslims have decided to pray by the thousands in the middle of the streets while the police standby and do nothing, they are afraid to do anything. 
 
If you live in the United States you might want to look at Detroit and Dearborn Michigan where there are Muslim neighborhoods the police will not go into for fear of their own life. Or for that matter you have noticed the Muslim women showing up with the traditional head scarf's in your town. This should be a sign to you that you're next.

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German official: Jews should go to Uganda
Head of Buchenwald concentration camp memorial accused of anti-Semitism


(Jerusalem Post) Israeli-born author Tuvia Tenenbom has called for the dismissal of Volkhard Knigge, the head of the Buchenwald concentration camp memorial in Weimar, Germany, after alleging that Knigge told him that Jews should have settled in Uganda instead of establishing the State of Israel.

Tenenbom, the director of the Jewish Theater of New York, described Knigge’s anti-Israel remarks in an interview on Sunday with the regional daily paper Mitteldeutsche Zeitung.

Tenenbom wrote a 2011 book on his observation of modern anti-Semitism in Germany. The book, I Sleep in Hitler’s Room: An American Jew Visits Germany, describes his experiences with diverse forms of anti-Semitism in Germany and includes an interview with Knigge and Daniel Gaede, an educator at Buchenwald.

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« Reply #276 on: January 06, 2013, 04:44:29 pm »

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/palestinian_authority_to_change_mUaCanJpXkrXskxTyrI5BJ?utm_medium=rss&utm_content=%0a%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20International

Palestinian Authority to change name to 'State of Palestine'

1/6/13

RAMALLAH, West Bank — The Palestinian president has ordered his government to officially change the name of the Palestinian Authority to "State of Palestine."

The move follows the November decision by the United Nations to upgrade the Palestinians' status to that of a "non-member observer state."

President Mahmoud Abbas said Sunday that all official Palestinian stamps, stationery and documents will now bear the new name.

A statement from his office said the move was aimed at enhancing Palestinian "sovereignty on the ground" and was a step on the way to "real independence." Israel still controls most of the West Bank.

Israel objected to the Palestinian statehood bid at the U.N., calling it a unilateral step aimed at bypassing direct peace negotiations. Abbas denied that.

Israel had no comment Sunday.
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1/14/13

Israeli deputy PM warns against Palestinian state

Israeli Vice Prime Minister Moshe Ya'alon on Saturday stated that it was no longer seen as being in Israel's interest to allow the establishment of a sovereign and independent Palestinian Arab state.

Speaking at a pre-election event in the Tel Aviv area, Ya'alon said all the evidence of the past decade of failed peace-making pointed to the fact that an independent Palestinian state would become a platform for further hostility against Israel, just as happened in Gaza.

Ya'alon warned that those holding aloft Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas as a genuine peace partner are making a mistake.

"There are those who are trying to market Abbas as relatively moderate, but his goals are the same as those of Hamas. He does not believe in an agreement based on pre-1967 lines and he is refusing to come to the negotiating table," said the Likud candidate and former IDF chief.

Israeli expert Dr. Guy Bachor issued a statement in the Israeli press largely echoing Ya'alon's warnings.

Bachor explained that despite signing a peace agreement that would ostensibly bring a final conclusion to the conflict, a new Palestinian state would immediately open its doors to hundreds of thousands of Arabs claiming "Palestinian" descent and thereby create a demographic problem of epic proportions for Israel.

"The amazing thing is that there are those who actually use the demographic argument to justify a Palestinian state, while if that happens, demographic realities will become unbearable for every Israeli," wrote Bachor.

Ya'alon's boss, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, has again stated publicly that his official policy is to work for a peace deal that culminates in the creation of a Palestinian Arab state, but many in his party now oppose that goal.

Rather, many like Ya'alon are more receptive of the platform of Jewish Home party leader Naftali Bennett, who is advocating autonomy, but not sovereignty, for the Palestinian Arabs.
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« Reply #278 on: January 16, 2013, 04:03:06 pm »

http://news.yahoo.com/saudis-100-million-palestinians-190024230.html

1/16/13

Saudis will give $100 million to Palestinians

RAMALLAH, West Bank (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia will give the Palestinian government in the Israeli-occupied West Bank $100 million to help alleviate a worsening budget crisis, the Palestinian president's office said on Wednesday.
 
President Mahmoud Abbas has struggled to convince Arab countries to deliver a $100 million monthly "safety net" they promised when he secured de facto U.N. recognition of a Palestinian state in November, prompting Israeli sanctions.
 
Abbas thanked Saudi Arabia, a longtime benefactor to his government, for the funds, which will be transferred imminently.
 
"The state's budget is facing a large deficit as a result of the docking of Palestinian money by the Israeli government as a punitive step after the U.N. recognition of Palestine as an observer state," Abbas said in a statement.

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Israel advances settlement plans after alleged Obama rebuke

After report that Obama privately criticized Netayahu's settlement policies, tenders issued for some 200 new homes in Kiryat Arba, Efrat in W. Bank; Yacimovich, Livni slam PM for damaging relations with US.

The Housing and Construction Ministry issued tenders for some 200 new housing units in the West Bank on Wednesday, a day after a US columnist released comments allegedly made by US President Barack Obama in which the American leader harshly criticized Prime Minister Binyamin Netanayahu's settlement policies.

According to Channel 2, the tenders are for 84 new housing units in Kiryat Arba near Hebron, and for an additional 114 tenders in the West Bank settlement of Efrat.

Bloomberg columnist Jeffrey Goldberg on Tuesday quoted Obama as saying “Israel doesn’t know what its own best interests are,” in regard to Israeli plans to advance new settlement construction, including that in the controversial E1 corridor.

“With each new settlement announcement, in Obama’s view, Netanyahu is moving his country down a path toward near isolation,” Goldberg wrote.

Sources close to Netanyahu responded carefully, saying that the prime minister would continue to protect the country’s vital national security interests in the coming government that he would lead. The sources noted that Obama had said Israeli-US defense and security cooperation were at unprecedented levels, which was evident in US support for Israeli missile defense systems and diplomatic backing during Operation Pillar of Defense.

But Likud officials accused Obama of “gross interference” in the Israeli election and said the president was “taking revenge” against Netanyahu for his perceived intervention in the November US election on behalf of unsuccessful Republican challenger Mitt Romney. The officials said Obama had been swayed against Netanyahu by President Shimon Peres and former prime minister Ehud Olmert.

The publishing of tenders for new settlement units on Wednesday drew condemnation from Netanyahu's political opponents.

The Tzipi Livni Party blasted the plans, saying "Netanyahu is destroying Israel's international relations and is sacrificing national interests for political considerations right before an election."

"The Netanyahu government's order of priorities is set by its 'natural partners,' the extreme Right and haredim, not the Zionist, sane majority in Israel," the party added.

Livni's party stated that Netanyahu's policies lead to a double loss by isolating Israel and weakening settlement blocs by building outside of them.

Similarly, Labor leader Shelly Yacimovich criticized Netanyahu for ignoring Obama's advice and isolating Israel.

"Instead of listening to criticism, Netanyahu is behaving irresponsibly and provocatively a week before the election," she stated. "The battle against [Bayit Yehudi leader Naftali] Bennett is more important to Netanyahu than facing Obama. Netanyahu is desperately trying to distract from his failures, which were revealed again this week when we saw he has no control over Israel's economy, and is trying to work in the diplomatic field, where he is also a failure."

According to Yesh Atid, Netanyahu is proving once again that he prefers settlers over the middle class.

"Instead of investing in housing, education and lowering the cost of living, the prime minister chooses, a moment before the election, to invest in settlements and is further isolating Israel," the party stated. "In the competition between him and Bennett for votes, Netanyahu chose to wink at the extreme right instead of protecting national, social and economic interests."

Meretz leader Zehava Gal-On said of the new settlement plans that Netanyahu had responded to the "American warning" on settlements "with Chutzpa that will end up costing us dearly."

Strong Israel leaders Arieh Eldad and Michael Ben-Ari said that "it's too bad there aren't elections twice a week," "If Netanyahu would have built in his four years in the government the way he's promising before the election, there wouldn't be a housing crisis in Israel and the attempts to establish a Palestinian state would be considered science fiction."

Eldad and Ben-Ari accused Netanyahu of trying to "steal" settler's votes, while saying he is committed to establishing a Palestinian state in Judea and Samaria. The two expressed hope that those faithful to the Land of Israel know not to give their votes to someone who plans to uproot them from their homes.

http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=299755
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« Reply #280 on: January 17, 2013, 07:26:33 am »

PM hits back at Obama: I know what's best for Israel

Netanyahu visits Gaza border, says over last four years Israel has stood up to strong pressure and will continue to do so.

“I think everyone understands that only Israel’s citizens are those who will be the ones to determine who faithfully represents Israel’s vital interests,” the prime minister said in his first direct response to Obama’s reported criticism.

Netanyahu said over the past four years he had withstood “enormous pressure,” including demands that Israel curb its pressure on Iran, withdraw to the pre- 1967 lines, divide Jerusalem and stop building in the eastern part of the capital.

“We fended off all those pressures, and I will continue to stand firm on Israel’s vital interests for the security of the citizens of Israel,” he declared.

Netanyahu, who was joined on his visit by Defense Minister Ehud Barak and IDF brass, said he was “very impressed” by the advanced technological measures being deployed in the area, “and even more so by our young soldiers operating them here.”

The IDF, Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency) and other security forces were doing “very important work,” he said. “They are maintaining the quiet that has been kept since Operation Pillar of Defense.”

Netanyahu said that no one had any illusions, and that the quiet could be shattered at any time.

But, he added, the IDF was prepared for any scenario. “We will do everything necessary to defend Israel’s citizens here and everywhere else,” he said.

Barak attributed the calm in the area primarily to “the serious blow sustained by Hamas and the other terrorist organizations” in Gaza during November’s military operation.

Barak said that a secondary factor was “the positive influence of Egypt,” adding, however, that the foremost reason for the cease-fire having held up was the “exceptional work being carried out here by IDF battalions, the observational post system, the division,” and the new Sinai security fence.

The IDF “is prepared here with tools that are more and more advanced,” Barak said, adding that he had been shown “an amazing exhibition of field intelligence abilities.”

At the same time, “at any given moment, it goes back to the old things, to sticking to the objective, to the speedy orientation of commanders, to the responses of soldiers and commanders,” the defense minister said.

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« Reply #281 on: January 19, 2013, 12:12:22 pm »

Well, this guy seems to forget that the current President in the White House putting out 23 EOs is an anti-Israel MUSLIM!

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Failed GOP gubernatorial candidate blames Israel for Sandy Hook shooting on Iranian television

 By Julian Pecquet - 12/18/12 01:02 PM ET

A one-time Republican candidate for governor of Arizona blamed Israeli "death squads" for the Sandy Hook shooting during an appearance on Iran's state-run Press TV Tuesday.

Michael Harris came in third place in the 2006 Republican primary, which Len Munsil won before falling to Democrat Janet Napolitano. He is now the Phoenix-based financial editor of Veterans Today, a conspiracy-minded “military and foreign affairs journal” whose editorial board includes former Pakistani and Russian spies.

“I want to remind you of the Norway shooting of Mr. Breivik, which followed a week after Norway had agreed to support Palestine,” Harris told Press TV. “Now you look at Israel just lost their bid to thwart Palestine from being recognized by the United Nations and now here we go, here is a revenge killing in the U.S., sponsored by Israel, that killed all these innocent children and that is something that Israelis do very, very well.

“They target the innocent, they target the children, they target women and they avoid the issue because they are angry. They did not get their way and now Palestine has standing at the U.N, and Israel is going to be subject to the international criminal courts and their leadership is going to be taken to task.”

Press TV followed up by running a column written by Gordon Duff, the senior editor at Veterans Today, summarizing Harris's points and pointing to the Republican Jewish Coalition's opposition to former Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-Neb.) as secretary of Defense as further proof of an Israeli conspiracy.

“Washington is terrified of Israel, their powerful lobby and its relationship with organized crime,” Duff wrote. “Now, a key former Senator, Chuck Hagel, who has helped expose this fact, is likely to be nominated as the secretary of Defense, despite vocal protests from Israel.”

While some conservative Jewish groups have indeed criticized Hagel, liberal groups such as J Street called Hagel a “staunch friend of the state of Israel and a trusted ally in the Senate, speaking out on behalf of America’s commitment to Israel’s security.”

The Israeli government has so far remained silent on the matter.
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« Reply #282 on: January 28, 2013, 08:30:50 am »

Obama secretly pledges to divide Jerusalem
Will press Israel into new so-called land-for-peace talks


Now that he has secured his second term, President Barack Obama has already secretly pledged to the Palestinians he will press Israel into a new round of so-called land-for-peace negotiations, a top Palestinian Authority negotiator told WND.

The negotiator said top members of the Obama administration told the Palestinians the U.S. president will renew talks aimed at creating a Palestinian state in the so-called 1967 borders – meaning in the West Bank, Gaza Strip and, notably, eastern Jerusalem.


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« Reply #283 on: January 29, 2013, 03:57:04 am »

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That's a "source" that keeps getting posted at PPF as a reliable source or something. Iran tosses out some propaganda about the US, and some "truthers" eat it up as fact. And of course anything anti-Israel.

Press TV is not news, it's just propaganda.
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« Reply #284 on: January 29, 2013, 11:15:56 am »

Evangelical leader: Israel is safest place on earth

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« Reply #285 on: January 29, 2013, 03:28:04 pm »

That reads like a pr press release. Nowhere in that article did it say "why" he thinks it's safe. Which Matthew and Revelation have a different take on Israel's safety.
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« Reply #286 on: January 29, 2013, 03:32:31 pm »

That reads like a pr press release. Nowhere in that article did it say "why" he thinks it's safe. Which Matthew and Revelation have a different take on Israel's safety.

He also calls himself an "Apostle". I believe scripture says there's ONLY 12 of them...

Rev 21:14  And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

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1Cor 15:1  Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
1Co 15:2  By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
1Co 15:3  For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1Co 15:4  And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
1Co 15:5  And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
1Co 15:6  After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
1Co 15:7  After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.
1Co 15:8  And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.


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« Reply #287 on: January 29, 2013, 03:46:12 pm »

Uhm, it references "the 12", but they weren't the only apostles of the time. The verses you posted shows that. Notice that it mentions "the 12", then later a verse says "then all the apostles". That means the 12 were not the only apostles. Jesus even sent out 70 of them at one time.

"After these things the Lord appointed other seventy also, and sent them two and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come." Luke 10:1 (KJB)
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« Reply #288 on: January 29, 2013, 03:50:21 pm »

Uhm, it references "the 12", but they weren't the only apostles of the time. The verses you posted shows that. Notice that it mentions "the 12", then later a verse says "then all the apostles". That means the 12 were not the only apostles. Jesus even sent out 70 of them at one time.

"After these things the Lord appointed other seventy also, and sent them two and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come." Luke 10:1 (KJB)

Oh OK, I think I understand the bigger picture now(with the 70 appointed also).

With that being said, if someone in our present day calls themself an Apostle(like the guy in the article), wouldn't that raise a red flag nonetheless? B/c Apostles themselves in the bible were appointed by the Lord directly.
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« Reply #289 on: January 29, 2013, 04:07:21 pm »

We are exhorted to not take titles, so I see a person that claims to be an apostle is not sound doctrine. We are all spiritually apostles as God moves us, but generally an apostle is one who was selected by Jesus. None of those apostles are alive today, they sleep.
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« Reply #290 on: February 09, 2013, 10:45:01 am »

http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/Comp/ArticleLayout/CdaArticlePrintPreview/1,2506,L-4342746,00.html

Cyprus upgrades Palestinian diplomatic status

2/8/13

FM Kozakou-Marcoullis informs visiting Palestinian counterpart Malki of 'important decision' to upgrade status of Palestinian mission to that of 'Embassy of the State of Palestine'; says Israeli construction in E1 zone would 'seriously undermine' peace prospects

Cyprus said on Friday it has upgraded its relations with the Palestinians to full diplomatic mission status, one of just eight European Union countries to do so.

The decision was announced by Foreign Minister Erato Kozakou-Marcoullis during an official visit by her Palestinian counterpart Riyad Malki.

"I informed my Palestinian counterpart of the decision of the government to upgrade the status of the Palestinian diplomatic representation in Cyprus from that of a Diplomatic Mission to that of an Embassy of the State of Palestine," Marcoullis told reporters.

She said this "important decision" was in line with the recognition of the "Palestinian state" in 1988 by Cyprus, and follows seven other EU members that have recognized a Palestinian State – Bulgaria, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Malta, Poland, Romania, and Slovakia.

A Cyprus Representation Office opened in Ramallah in the West Bank in 2009.

Malki said the decision sent a "very important message," adding: "We hope this courageous step taken by Cyprus will be taken by others in the European Union."

Palestinian Ambassador to Nicosia Walid Al-Hassan told AFP: "Now we have diplomatic representation in Cyprus like any other country in the world. This applies to our legal situation and the immunity which accompanies diplomatic status."

On November 29, Cyprus also voted in favor of the successful Palestinian bid for upgraded UN General Assembly status.

"All official correspondence will now be done in the name of the State of Palestine. Cyprus is the first European state to upgrade Palestinian status since the UN vote," Hassan said.

Marcoullis said Cyprus expressed "full support" for resolving concerns of Palestinian aspirations for

statehood and sovereignty and those of Israel for security, through a comprehensive negotiated peace based on a two-state solution.

Nicosia backs an enhanced EU role in efforts for renewed and substantial peace efforts in 2013.

Cyprus has expressed "deep dismay and strong opposition" at controversial Israeli settlement plans for an area near east Jerusalem known as E1.

"The E1 plan, if implemented, would seriously undermine the prospects of a negotiated resolution of the conflict," Marcoullis said.



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http://news.yahoo.com/netanyahu-discuss-iran-syria-palestinians-obama-115835152.html

2/10/13

Netanyahu to discuss Iran, Syria, Palestinians with Obama

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Iran's nuclear ambitions, the civil war in Syria and stalled Israeli-Palestinian peace efforts will top the agenda of U.S. President Barack Obama's visit to Israel, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Sunday.
 
"It is a very important visit that will emphasize the strong alliance between Israel and the United States," Netanyahu, who has had a testy relationship with Obama, told his cabinet.
 
The White House announced on Tuesday that Obama plans to visit Israel, the West Bank and Jordan this spring, raising prospects of a new U.S. push to restart Israeli-Palestinian peace efforts frozen for the past two years.
 
The White House gave no exact dates for the trip, Obama's first to Israel since taking office. Israel's Channel 10 television station cited unnamed sources in Washington last week saying the visit to Israel would start on March 20.
 
In public remarks at the cabinet session, Netanyahu put Iran at the top of his list of talking points with Obama and referred only in general terms to peace efforts with the Palestinians, stopping short of setting a revival of bilateral negotiations as a specific goal of the visit.
 
"The president and I spoke about this visit and agreed that we would discuss three main issues ... Iran's attempt to arm itself with nuclear weapons, the unstable situation in Syria ... and the efforts to advance the diplomatic process of peace between the Palestinians and us," Netanyahu said.

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Israel gives final approval for 90 new settler homes


 Israel gave final approval on Monday for 90 new settler homes in the occupied West Bank, driving another wedge into a rift with Washington ahead of a visit by U.S. President Barack Obama.

The dwellings will be built in Beit El, a major Jewish settlement north of Jerusalem, and will house educational staff, the Defense Ministry said.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has pledged that 300 new homes will eventually be erected in Beit El, where 30 settler families were evicted last June after the Supreme Court ruled they were living illegally on private Palestinian land.

Israel has come under international criticism, including from its main ally the United States, over its construction policy in the West Bank, territory it captured in the 1967 war and which the Palestinians want for their future state.

Settlement expansion has been an irritant in a testy relationship between Netanyahu and Obama, who is due to visit Israel, the West Bank and Jordan this spring.

Both Israel and the United States have played down speculation that the trip could result in the revival of U.S.-hosted peace talks with the Palestinians that collapsed over the settlement issue in 2010.

"The Palestinian position is clear. There can be no negotiation while settlement continues," Nabil Abu Rdainah, a spokesman for Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, said in response to the new Beit El construction.

Most countries consider Israel's settlements illegal. Israel disputes this, citing historical and Biblical links to the land.

In Washington, U.S. State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said she had not seen the announcement but repeated the Obama administration's opposition to such settlement building.

"Our position on this has not changed. We don't think it's helpful," Nuland told reporters at her daily briefing.

There are now more than 325,000 settlers in the West Bank, with a further 200,000 living in East Jerusalem, which was annexed by Israel after 1967 in a move not recognized internationally.

It is claimed by the Palestinians as their capital city.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/11/us-palestinians-israel-settlements-idUSBRE91A12Z20130211

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4 From the wilderness and this Lebanon even unto the great river, the river Euphrates, all the land of the Hittites, and unto the great sea toward the going down of the sun, shall be your coast.


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'Israel, Vatican near historic relationship upgrade'

http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=301475

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Deputy Foreign Minister Ayalon: J'lem is on verge of signing agreement to formalize diplomatic relations with the Holy See.

After 14 years of glacial negotiations, Israel and the Vatican are on the verge of signing a long-elusive agreement that would formalize diplomatic relations, Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon said on Tuesday.

Ayalon’s comments to The Jerusalem Post came after a meeting in Jerusalem of a working commission that has been trying to iron out various issues between Israel and the Holy See since 1999.

Israel and the Vatican established diplomatic ties in 1993.

“In the last four years a lot of ground has been covered, and after long, intensive and serious negotiations we have overcome most if not all the outstanding issues that have prevented signing of this agreement for so long,” Ayalon said.

He said the two sides were “on the verge of signing, subject to final approval by the government of Israel and the Holy See.”

Ayalon explained that the final agreement was not signed on Tuesday, because it was not appropriate for a caretaker government to sign the agreement, and that the actual acceptance and signing should be left to the next government.

“All the ground work is finished and I trust the new government will sign soon, which is nothing short of a milestone in the relationship,” he said.

Ayalon, who has led the negotiations with the Vatican for the past four years, but will be leaving his post next week, said the conclusion of the agreement signifies a “real upgrade in relations between Israel and the Holy See, and between the Jewish people and one billion Catholics around the world, to the benefit of both sides.

Ayalon and his counterpart from the Vatican, Ettore Balestrero, the under-secretary of the Holy See for the relations with states, issued a joint communiqué saying the joint commission that met on Tuesday “took notice that significant progress was made and looks forward to a speedy conclusion of the agreement.”

Jerusalem expects this agreement to improve relations not only with the Vatican, but also with other Catholic countries around the world for whom the Vatican’s position vis-a-vis Israel is important.

Over the years the discussions have centered around three main issues: the status of the Catholic Church in Israel; the issue of sovereignty over some 21 sites in the country, including the Cenacle – the site of the Last Supper on Mount Zion; and taxation and expropriation issues.

Ayalon said that agreements have been reached on each of the issues.

The most contentious was the issue of sovereignty over the Last Supper Room, with the Catholic Church demanding ownership, and Israel not willing to relinquish it. The two sides have essentially agreed to disagree on the matter, but not let it stand in the way of the overall accord.

While the Catholic Church does not pay taxes on its properties in Israel, under the agreement, religious institutions owned by the Holy See will be exempted from tax, just as synagogues and mosques are, but church-owned businesses will not.

The agreement also works out the issue of expropriating Church property for infrastructure purposes, with a list of five sites – including the Mount of Beatitudes and Capernaum near Lake Kinneret (the Sea of Galilee) and the Church of the Annunciation in Nazareth – where land expropriation would not be allowed except for public safety in situations of emergency, and then only after coordination with the Church.
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Luk_12:15  And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man's life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth.

Eph_5:3  But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;

Col_3:5  Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:


http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/12814#.URFHNvXTmUn

2/1/13

Op-Ed: Exclusive: A Seat for the Pope at King David's Tomb

Israel seems to have sold Jerusalem to the Vatican.

An historic agreement has been drafted between Israel and the Vatican. The Israeli authorities have granted the Pope an official seat in the room where the Last Supper is believed to have taken place, on Mount Zion in Jerusalem, and where David and Solomon, Jewish kings of Judea, are considered by some researchers, to also be buried.
 
It is the culmination of a long campaign by the Catholic Church to regain religious stewardship over the place where Jesus is supposed to have broken bread and drunk wine with his disciples on the eve of his crucifixion.

This is an enormous issue pushed through without any public debate.

According to our sources, the agreement, which is expected to be ratified next June, gives the Pope a “special authority” over the second floor of the building, so that Christian pilgrims will be able to celebrate religious functions like Pope John Paul did in 2000.

The agreement constitutes Israel’s capitulation to the Vatican’s efforts to “Christianize” the holy site, like when a Catholic convent was built in Auschwitz.

The Catholic Church has long wanted control over part of the area on Mt. Zion so as to turn it into an international religious center for Catholics. The blueprint of the agreement reads as follows: “The Vatican hands over this use of the Cenacle to the Custody of the Holy Land which will keep the Cenacle open from 6 AM to 8 AM for the celebration of the Holy Mass”.

In the long term, the gesture will increase tensions between Jews and the large assets of the Vatican. The Church has long been working to reduce Jewish rights in Jerusalem and in the Old City. Now, after the Muslim Waqf authority expelled the Christians from the Temple Mount and turned it into a mosque, it’s the turn of the Vatican to lay its hands on the Jewish Jerusalem.

The Custody of the Holy Land, the Franciscan order who, with Vatican approval, is in charge of the holy sites, campaigns with the Arabs against Israel.

As far back as May 2000, Yasser Arafat met Islamic and Christian clergymen at the presidential offices in Ramallah to back Palestinian Arab sovereignty over Jerusalem. Among the clergymen who attended the meeting, Diodoros I, patriarch of the Greek Orthodox Church, Torkom II, patriarch of the Armenian Orthodox Church, Catholic Patriarch Michel Sabbah and officials from the Custody of the Holy Land.

"An official meeting took place in Ramallah, Palestine, at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the State of Palestine". This is the official note of the Vatican press office about the meeting between the Catholic officials and the PLO representatives which took place this week.

The Vatican is also asking that Israel hand over to the Vatican’s control dozens of sites, 19 in Judea and Samaria and 28 in Jerusalem. The Catholic Church want to discuss some properties on Mount of Olives, Har Hazeitim, which is the very history of the Jewish people. If you want to keep Jerusalem united, you have to keep Har Hazeitim. The Vatican knows that.

In 1989 charges were made by the Catholic authorities that Israel desecrated the Cenacle on Mount Zion. The charges, which appeared in the Italian bishops’ newspaper Avvenire, said that the Israelis put a memorial plaque on the roof of the Cenacle. The plaque was put in place after the 1948 War of Independence in memory of soldiers who fell in the Old City and whose burial place was unknown. Every year, the bereaved families cleaned the plaque.

Why did the Catholic authorities complain? Last year a similar charge was made from the Catholic authorities that Israel wants to “Judaize” Mount Zion.

Should the Vatican gain sovereignty over Mount of Zion, millions of Christian pilgrims will flock to the site, and this will threaten the Israeli presence in the Old City’s Jewish Quarter and Jewish access to the Western Wall.

The Vatican wants the Jews out of the Old City and apparently Israel’s government is agreeing with them. Turning the Cenacle into an active church is also a way of desecrating the holiness of the site known as the Tomb of David.

The Vatican and the Palestinian Liberation Organisation expressed a common position in the Basic Agreement of 15 February 2000, intended to support the recognition of a special statute for the City of Jerusalem. In the memorandum, signed by Vatican officials and the PLO, an organization dedicated to the mass deportation of Israel’s Jews, the Catholic Church wants Israel relinquishing sovereignty at the Western Wall and the Temple Mount. The Vatican-PLO agreement’s preamble on Jerusalem shows that the Vatican's attitude on Israel's capital is still stuck in the unforgivable anti-Semitic rhetoric of the 1940s.

Until 1948, Christian access to the Cenacle was severely limited, because it was used as a mosque. Since then, the State of Israel is committed to protecting the holy places of all religions, and guaranteeing the right of worship for all faiths.

But no Israeli government must tolerate any policy of division, “shared control” or “internationalization” that opens the door to a return to the Arab apartheid of Jordanian occupation between 1948 and 1967.

Jerusalem is not for sale. For thousands of years, the Cenacle area was almost always totally closed off to Jews.

Sovereignty over Mount Zion is politics, not only religion. The day after the Pope celebrated a mass on Mt. Zion in 2000, he went to Yasser Arafat headquarter to support the Palestinians’ right to return.

A few months later, the Oslo war began. And Jews were sacrified again on the altar of “peace”. It was their last supper.
 
This week, the Vatican in its official documents began referring to the "State of Palestine".
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« Reply #295 on: February 13, 2013, 01:49:00 am »

That's just crazy, Muslims and Catholics running off Jews from their own land. But, we knew it was coming.
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« Reply #296 on: February 19, 2013, 05:38:09 pm »

http://news.yahoo.com/israels-netanyahu-names-ex-foreign-minister-tzipi-livni-181607780.html

2/19/13

Israel's Netanyahu names ex-Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni to lead peace talks with Palestinians

JERUSALEM (AP) — Israel's Netanyahu names ex-Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni to lead peace talks with Palestinians.
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« Reply #297 on: February 19, 2013, 05:54:02 pm »

i have been looking at mapss of the land "Israel" is supposed tto have and they have like only maybe 1 3rd the land or less they should. they should control some of syria i believee. one of the maps comes from a chick tract called "somebody angry?" and its sad, because they dont have much land to begin with compare to like 99% of all other nations on earth.
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« Reply #298 on: February 19, 2013, 06:01:29 pm »

another thing. Israel is supposed to have that land, and it was given them to God because as i have noticed in my studies that land has those four rivers or did have all four rivers flowing into it when it was still the garden of Eden, and it all goes back to Adam and Eve as the first humas, and so Eden or part of it was where Israel now is. explains why land should be theirs too.
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« Reply #299 on: February 19, 2013, 08:34:23 pm »

Yeah, it amazes me how tiny the land of Israel is, but thus far(and never will for that matter) will the Palestineans nor any of their other enemies covet even a bit of it.(although the AC will divide the land just for a short bit in the tribulation)

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