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« on: August 08, 2012, 03:56:10 pm »

It's amazing to see how these judges are ruling. They are so obviously sold out, it's amazing to watch. There is a total disregard for the Constitution any more. They just rule however they feel, or are told, politically.

http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2012/08/government_can_spy_on_you_no_warrants_needed_court.php

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After 246 Years, Court Legalizes Spying On Americans By Feds

The United States federal government can spy on the communications Americans without warrants and without fear of being sued, a federal appeals court ruled on Tuesday. The decision reversed the one and only case that ever successfully challenged former President George W. Bush's Terrorist Surveillance Program.

"This case effectively brings to an end the plaintiffs' ongoing attempts to hold the executive branch responsible for intercepting telephone conversations without judicial authorization," wrote a three-judge panel of the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals [PDF].

The case reversed a lower court decision in which two lawyers working with the now-defunct al-Haramain Islamic Foundation were awarded more than $20,000 each in damages -- their lawyers got $2.5 million in legal fees -- after a long legal battle during which they proved they were spied on without warrants, reports David Kravets at Wired.

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Traitor the the republic: Judge M. Margaret McKeown

Using domestic spying laws passed by Congress just after President Richard Nixon's Watergate scandal, they sued and won, but the government appealed their victory, prevailing at the appeals court on Tuesday when the suit and damages were dismissed.

The lawyer for the two attorneys said he may ask the court to reconsider its decision with a larger panel of judges, or he may ask the Supreme Court to take the case.

"This case was the only chance to litigate and hold anybody accountable for the warrantless wiretapping program," Eisenberg told Wired. "As illegal as it was, it evaded accountability."

But the appeals court, based in San Francisco, ruled that when Congress wrote the law regulating eavesdropping on Americans, it didn't waive sovereign immunity, even in the section supposedly protecting Americans from warrantless searches.

That means that Americans cannot sue their own government for illegally spying on them, even if their Constitutional rights have been violated by the U.S. breaking its own laws on wiretapping.

According to the ruling, Americans who have been spied upon by their government can bring a suit for damages against the U.S. for use of the illegally collected information, but cannot sue the government for collecting the information itself, according to the majority opinion penned by Judge M. Margaret McKeown, joined by Judge Michael Daly Hawkins and Judge Harry Pregerson (traitors to the republic, all three of them).

"Although such a structure may seem anomalous and even unfair, the policy judgment is one for Congress, not the courts," they spinelessly buck-passed.

In 2008, five years after the illegal wiretapping involved in this case, Congress authorized Bush's domestic spying program. The New York Times had exposed the program in December 2005, revealing that the U.S. government's National Security Agency eavesdropped on Americans' phone calls without warrants.

The only other major case challenging the government's domestic spying program was brought by the Electronic Frontier Foundation, alleging wholesale, warrantless spying by the feds on American citizens' communications. It was sent back to a district court after it survived an appeals court ruling in December.
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« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2012, 04:34:04 pm »

No surprise there.
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« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2012, 08:34:50 am »

Govt May Now Collect, Catalog, and Store All Private Information

Imagine that the U.S. government had the power to scour the reams of public records and collect and collate every bit of personal information about every citizen of this country. Now imagine that any of the various intelligence and security agencies within the government could combine that data with any other information about a person that has been posted to a social media website or compiled by one of the many data aggregating companies that keep tabs on all of us. Finally, imagine that all this data could be passed among these agencies and that the ability of anyone inside or outside the government to challenge this surveillance was all but eliminated.

Sadly, this is not the description of some fictitious dystopian future; this is the factual description of present-day America and it’s about to get much worse.

In March Attorney General Eric Holder, in cooperation with National Counterterrorism Center head Matthew Olsen and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, significantly accelerated this move toward abolishing privacy by approving a new list of guidelines for how long U.S. government agencies tasked with combating international and domestic “terrorism” may retain the data they collect and store. Basically, this information may be saved even if it contains no connection to criminal activity whatsoever.

According to the new regulations, the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC) (headquartered at the Liberty Crossing complex in McLean, Virginia)  can store and “continually assess” this information “for a period of up to five years.” Before the promulgation of these new guidelines, the NCTC was under instructions to destroy “promptly” (typically defined to mean within 180 days) this cache of material gathered from U.S. citizens if there was nothing related to terrorism found in it.

Speaking fondly of the new time restraints, Paul Rosenzweig, a former official at the Department of Homeland Security, was quoted in the Washington Post saying:

Five years is a reasonable time frame. I certainly think 180 days was way too short. That’s just not a realistic understanding of how long it takes analysts to search large data sets for relevant information.

As expected, such an extraordinary expansion of the power of the federal government over private information and communications of citizens not suspected of committing a crime has riled up the segment of our Republic concerned with the rapid repeal of our civil liberties.

The New American faithfully has reported these frequent assaults on constitutional freedom. For example, there is the story that:

the Department of Homeland Security’s National Operations Center (NOC) released its Publicly Available Social Media Monitoring and Situational Awareness Initiative last year and in that report the intelligence-gathering arm of the DHS, the Office of Operations Coordination and Planning (OPS) gives itself permission to “gather, store, analyze, and disseminate” data on millions of users of social media (Twitter, Facebook, YouTube) and business networking sites (Linkedin).

Other federal affronts to privacy, security, and the Bill of Rights are listed in the Washington Post piece:

Those [civil liberties] advocates have repeatedly clashed with the administration over a host of national security issues, including its military detention without trial of individuals in Afghanistan and at Guantanamo Bay, its authorization of the killing of U.S.-born cleric Anwar al-Awlaki in a drone strike in Yemen, and its prosecution of an unprecedented number of suspects in the leaking of classified information.

As readers will recall, al-Awlaki was the “radical Muslim cleric” and American citizen assassinated by a Hellfire missile fired from a CIA Predator drone — and his 16-year-old son was killed by the same type drone two weeks later — on orders from President Obama, who had included the names of the two Americans on his infamous kill list. Notably and tragically, neither of these men was ever accused of a crime (other than speaking against American foreign policy) nor afforded any of the due process protections guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution.

Intelligence officials march on toward the police state undeterred, however. They insist that this new leeway in the gathering and collection of information is necessary to make sure that the homeland is safe from terrorists in training. Tellingly, none of them can explain how this consideration outweighs the Fourth Amendment's guarantee of "the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures."

As even a cursory review of the guidelines reveals, the scope of relevant data is enormous. Records of where one travels, how one travels, whom one visits, and how one pays for the tickets are all now the property of the federal government's intelligence complex.

Furthermore, the NCTC and its intelligence-gathering partners are permitted to “access and review datasets that are identified as including non-terrorism information in order to identity and obtain ‘terrorism information.” That means the Obama administration’s vast (and growing) domestic spying network may collect, catalog, and collate every last scrap of personal information about citizens and then sort through it to determine if it is indicative of any terrorist activity. This is precisely the opposite of the principle of the Fourth Amendment's prohibition against “unreasonable searches and seizures.” Under this new rubric, the government has deemed all searches and seizures reasonable unless they determine that they are not.

At a Congressional hearing held on August 2, Chris Calabrese of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) accurately identified one of the critical Constitutional problems with the new guidelines:

It is particularly noteworthy that NCTC relies on a technique, data mining, which has been thoroughly discredited as a useful tool for identifying terrorists. Data mining searches are notoriously inaccurate and prone to false positives, and it is therefore very likely that individuals with no connection to terrorism will be caught up in terrorism investigations if this technique is utilized.

Finally, it is important to understand that under these new intelligence-gathering directives, even if the person whose information has been gathered is found to be innocent (again, note the contravention of the timeless legal principle of innocence until guilt is proven), his or her data may be kept for years, just in case something subsequently happens to place the person back under the prying eye of the Potomac.

This situation is described by Robert Litt, general counsel in the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. He complained to the Post that the former framework was “very limiting.” “On Day One, you may look at something and think that it has nothing to do with terrorism. Then six months later, all of a sudden, it becomes relevant.”

This concept is undeniably violative of the Constitution’s mandate that “no .... ex post facto law shall be passed.” If the monitored behavior is legal when the record of it is made, then the person committing the act may not then be subject to prosecution for the same if the act is subsequently outlawed. Or, to use Litt’s words, if “all of a sudden, it becomes relevant.”

Alexander Hamilton warned against this type of mercurial legislating: "The creation of crimes after the commission of the fact, or, in other words, the subjecting of men to punishment for things which, when they were done, were breaches of no law, and the practice of arbitrary imprisonments, have been, in all ages, the favorite and most formidable instruments of tyranny."



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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2012, 03:23:53 pm »

We see this stuff now, and I sometimes try to imagine how it will be when the mark is mandated under penalty of death. Hard to imagine a government would mandate such a thing, as one would think the public would completely revolt over such demands of them. I mean government can offer only so many "new and improved" features and benefits to entice people to sign up of their own "free will". I think once it's settled in as the norm, then comes the mandates to drawn in any holdouts.
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http://www.infowars.com/its-official-the-fourth-amendment-is-dead/

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On Tuesday, the Supreme Court disemboweled the Fourth Amendment. In a 5-4 decision, the Court ruled that citizens cannot challenge government wiretapping laws, in particular the unconstitutional Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 and, more recently, the FISA Amendments Act of 2008.
 
According to Justice Samuel Alito, millions of Americans can no longer expect the government to uphold the Constitution and prevent the NSA from conducting dragnet surveillance.
 
The government established so-called “sovereign immunity” last August when the Ninth Circuit in San Francisco dismissed Al Haramain Islamic Foundation v. Obama following a December 2010 court case ruling the NSA’s warrantless wiretap program was illegal.

FISA is a near perfect scheme for the government. It allows the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to rubber-stamp surveillance requests of supposed terrorists (the Justice Department claims there are over a million terrorists in America). The feds are not obliged to identify a target and they can conduct surveillance a week before making a FISA Court request. Surveillance can continue in the unlikely event that a request is denied and an appeal is set in motion.
 
Following the attacks of September 11, 2001, Congress passed the Patriot Act. It allows federal agents to write their own search warrants in violation of the Fourth Amendment and does away with the FISA-issued search warrant requirement, itself blatantly unconstitutional.
 
“FISA gives the government unchecked authority to snoop on all Americans who communicate with any foreign person, in direct contravention of the Fourth Amendment,” Andrew Napolitano wrote in December. “The right to privacy is a natural human right. Its enshrinement in the Constitution has largely kept America from becoming East Germany.”
 
Alito’s argument rests on the fact that FISA is a secret court. “Yet respondents have no actual knowledge of the Government’s §1881a targeting practices. Instead, respondents merely speculate and make assumptions about whether their communications with their foreign contacts will be acquired under §1881a,” he wrote.
 
Alito was joined by Chief Justice John Roberts, and Justices Anthony Kennedy, Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas. Justices Stephen Breyer, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Elena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor dissented the ruling.
 
Tuesday’s ruling pitches the Fourth Amendment protection against unreasonable search and seizure into the dustbin of history. It means we are one step closer to becoming East Germany where the Stasi conducted dragnet surveillance with impunity.
 
Stasi, however, was old school. The modern high-tech surveillance state is infinitely more effective and will be used to monitor the political attitudes of all Americans in dragnet fashion and ferret out for persecution – and elimination – those who pose a threat to the status quo.
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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2013, 05:30:20 pm »

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This is now the second time in about a year that I find myself saying the Supreme Court is compromised and sold out to politics. The legal system is now effectively worthless.
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