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« on: March 04, 2011, 11:54:09 pm »

Spiritual Retardation and Speaking In Tongues
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A Baptist takes a caustic look at the supposed spiritual gift known as "speaking in tongues" and exposes the stupidity thereof.
Are tongues for today? If not, then you really do look stupid doing it don't you? Does the Bible really say the person speaking in tongues doesn't know what he/she is saying? Or is there just enough scriptural slack to hang yourself with a charismatic rope?

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« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2015, 02:42:30 pm »

Southern Baptists to Open Their Ranks to Missionaries Who Speak in Tongues

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 After decade-long resistance, the Southern Baptist Convention will admit missionary candidates who speak in tongues, a practice associated with Pentecostal and charismatic churches.
The new policy, approved by the denomination’s International Mission Board on Wednesday (May 13), reverses a policy that was put in place 10 years ago.
Speaking in tongues is an ancient Christian practice recorded in the New Testament in which people pray in a language they do not know, understand or control. The practice died out until Pentecostalism emerged around the turn of the 20th century. In Pentecostal churches it is considered one of many “gifts” of the Holy Spirit, including healing and the ability to prophesize.
Allowing Southern Baptist missionaries to speak in tongues, or have what some SBC leaders call a “private prayer language,” speaks to the growing strength of Pentecostal churches in Africa, Asia and South America, where Southern Baptists are competing for converts and where energized new Christians are enthusiastically embracing the practice.
“In so many parts of the world, these charismatic experiences are normative,” said Bill Leonard, professor of church history at Wake Forest Divinity School. “Religious groups that oppose them get left behind evangelistically.”
The change does not mean that Southern Baptists will commission missionaries who speak in tongues. But Wendy Norvelle, a spokeswoman for the IMB, said an affirmative answer regarding the practice would no longer lead to automatic disqualification.
Southern Baptists have long prided themselves as among the world’s most ambitious missionaries — reaching countries and regions few dared to go — but they are increasingly finding competition from fast-growing Pentecostal Christianity, which now has an estimated 300 million followers worldwide.
In 2005, the International Mission Board created guidelines that specifically disqualified all missionary candidates who spoke in tongues. For Southern Baptists, the practice, also known as glossolalia, ended after the death of Jesus’ apostles. The ban on speaking in tongues became a way to distinguish the denomination from others.
These days, it can no longer afford that distinction.
“Southern Baptists are experiencing such demographic trauma of membership and baptism they need new constituencies among nonwhite population,” Leonard said.
Indeed, the issue became such a lightning rod for Southern Baptists that it got top billing on the application form.
“If someone said they did pray in tongues, they were automatically disqualified, essentially for being honest,” said Wade Burleson, an Enid, Okla., pastor who opposed the ban.
The policy changes approved this week during an IMB trustee meeting in Louisville, Ky., will leave the question of tongues in the application.
And the IMB said it will still end employment for any missionary who places “persistent emphasis on any specific gift of the Spirit as normative for all or to the extent such emphasis becomes disruptive,” an FAQ on the IMB website explained.
Other policy changes this week would allow divorced missionaries to serve in more positions, including long-term missions assignments.
And the IMB will recognize baptisms performed by other Christian denominations so long as they involved full-body immersion. Previously, a Southern Baptist minister must have baptized missionary candidates who transferred from another denomination.

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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2015, 03:29:51 pm »

I've been to SBC churches all my life - they are merely liberals in conservatives clothing. They've been bringing in Catholic doctrine for quite a while now(ie-the typical SBC churches does Richard Foster and Beth Moore studies).

This is the last straw(BTW - the SBC "church" I attend now has a 20-something year old pastor, who was indoctrinated in all of this Emergent/entertainment stuff). From what I understand, all of this contemporary "christian" music is tied to speaking in tongues too.
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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2015, 07:38:16 am »

23 Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the Lord your God: for he hath given you the former rain moderately, and he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first month.

24 And the floors shall be full of wheat, and the vats shall overflow with wine and oil.

25 And I will restore to you the years that the locust hath eaten, the cankerworm, and the caterpiller, and the palmerworm, my great army which I sent among you.

26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of the Lord your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my people shall never be ashamed.

27 And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the Lord your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed.

28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.

30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.

31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Lord come.

32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the Lord hath said, and in the remnant whom the Lord shall call.

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I believe that the end time church will repeat all of the works of the early church and with greater intensity. I cannot say whether or not it is already happening but in my heart I am confident that the end of this age will leave no room for doubt. My greatest disagreement with Baptist religeon is their stubborn belief that God is not able or willing to do the things He did in the 1st century.
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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2015, 01:30:42 pm »

I don't despise spiritual gifts. And I agree that Christians must be empowered to deal with what is to come.

Just because something is supernatural doesn't mean it's automatically witchcraft, nor does it mean that it's automatically of God. There has always been the real and the counterfeit. I've read of both kinds of tongues.

Personally, I have used tongues when I really couldn't put things into words. I was alone, not impressing anybody except Him. And sometimes it would become singing to Him. Recognizing who He is. Gratitude for Him being there for me and everybody else.

As far as “looking foolish”, I really don't care how I look if I'm part of something that He is doing for His kingdom. It's actually better that way. Nobody can say that I did anything and all the credit gets deferred to God.
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