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« Reply #120 on: October 03, 2013, 12:11:40 pm »

FYI, Darrell Isa is the same guy that was leading the "investigation" over the Obama admin's spying of these IRS tax-exempt Tea Party organizations et al.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/top-republican-calls-replacing-obamacare-193739366.html
Top Republican Calls For Replacing Obamacare With Obamacare
10/2/13

Republicans often face criticism opposing Obamacare but having no plan to replace it.

So Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) has been tweeting about his replacement proposal: Let every American participate in the Federal Employee Health Benefits program.

"Federal employees have long enjoyed high-quality, affordable health care benefits through this free market, consumer based system," says Issa.

I'm not exactly sure what Issa means when he calls FEHBP a "free market" system. The system does set up a marketplace where private health insurers offer plans that have to meet certain specifications, and then individuals choose the plans they like best.

That's also true of the Obamacare exchanges, which Republicans do not tend to think are very "free market."

In fact, FEHBP is similar to the Obamacare exchanges in a lot of ways.
• If insurers want to participate in the FEHBP, they can't exclude coverage for pre-existing conditions, just like Obamacare .
• They have to accept applicants " without regard  to age, race, sex, health status, or hazardous nature of employment." This is called guaranteed issue, and it's just like Obamacare.
• They have to charge all applicants the same premium for a given plan. This is called community rating, and it's more restrictive of insurers than Obamacare , which allows for substantial premium variation based on age.

The key way that FEHBP differs from Obamacare now is that only federal employees can participate in it. Those federal workers have 75% of their plan premiums paid by the federal government, and their own 25% contribution is deductible on their federal tax return.

I asked Issa's office what financial support he would propose to help non-government workers buy FEHBP plans and haven't heard back yet. If he's going to heavily subsidize those purchases, then his plan will really look a lot like Obamacare.

If he's not, then there's a significant problem: A lot of people won't be able to afford to buy FEHBP plans. The cheapest plan available where I live, a high-deductible plan, is $5,000 a year for single coverage or $10,900 for family coverage. That's accessible for people with high incomes and some with middle incomes, but many people who are too rich to qualify for Medicaid will find that out of reach.

And besides affordability, there is the issue of adverse selection. If you require pre-existing condition coverage and you impose guaranteed issue and community rating, insurance plans are going to be a lot more attractive to sick people than healthy ones. If healthy people choose not to buy insurance, average costs per plan participant will rise, driving up premiums, and causing even more people to choose not to buy.

That could lead to an "insurance death spiral," where premiums are very high and the FEHBP's participant pool ends up being just very sick people. That's what's happened in New York State, where community rating and guaranteed issue have made insurance premiums so high that less than 0.1% of residents get insurance through the individual coverage market.

There are two ways to prevent a death spiral. One is to reward people for buying insurance, as Obamacare does with subsidies, and as the federal government does now by paying 75% of employee FEHBP premiums. The other is to punish people for not buying insurance, as Obamacare does with the individual mandate.

Whatever approach Issa takes to preventing a death spiral in his FEHBP-for-all plan is likely to make it look even more like Obamacare.

This illustrates why Republicans have had so much trouble coming up with a "replacement" for Obamacare. When you take a private health insurance market and try to fix the problems with it, like sick people not being able to get covered, you end up layering on rules that are similar to the ones in Obamacare, for the same reasons that Obamacare's drafters imposed them.
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« Reply #121 on: October 03, 2013, 01:18:42 pm »

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There are two ways to prevent a death spiral. One is to reward people for buying insurance, as Obamacare does with subsidies, and as the federal government does now by paying 75% of employee FEHBP premiums. The other is to punish people for not buying insurance, as Obamacare does with the individual mandate.

There's a third way they don't want to talk about...

...mandate that insurance companies drop their premiums, so that the rest of the medical industry can drop their prices. If insurance remains untouched, there is no affordable way for the rest of medicine to drop their prices.
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« Reply #122 on: October 04, 2013, 05:45:43 pm »

http://news.yahoo.com/obamacare-battle-moves-to-college-campuses-200027191.html
Creepy Obamacare ad hits college campuses
9/19/13

There will be girls. There will be beer. There will be Cornhole. And someone will be dressed in the creepiest Uncle Sam costume you’ve ever seen.

Welcome to the strange new front in the war over Obamacare.

As the Republican dream of repealing President Barack Obama’s health care law in Congress crumbles, the fight over the law’s future shifts from Washington to college campuses, where the new challenge for Obamacare proponents lies in convincing young people to sign up for coverage mandated by the law.

The period to enroll in health insurance exchanges established under the 2010 law begins Oct. 1, which will mark the start of a race to urge Americans to participate. The health exchanges rely heavily on young, healthy Americans who will subsidize the sick and elderly within the pools. Without the healthy, the exchanges could be unsustainable. The Obama administration is devoting millions of public dollars to promote the exchanges, but many conservative groups are actively working to convince people not to join.

That’s where Creepy Uncle Sam comes in.

Generation Opportunity, a Virginia-based group that is part of a coalition of right-leaning organizations with financial ties to billionaire businessmen and political activists Charles and David Koch, will launch a six-figure campaign aimed at convincing young people to “opt-out” of the Obamacare exchanges. Later this month, the group will begin a tour of 20 college campuses, where they plan to set up shop alongside pro-Obamacare activists such as Enroll America who are working to sign people up for the insurance exchanges.


Surprise! Surprise! Had a feeling this group is opposition-controlled...

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2013/10/04/Surprise-Koch-Brothers-Are-Boosting-Obama
10/4/13
Surprise! The Koch Brothers Are Boosting Obama

hile President Obama continues to tilt for windmills, rising oil and gas production has showered his administration with unexpected benefits. Those producers inadvertently include his arch enemies—the Koch Brothers. How deliciously ironic it is that the oil industry – consistently scorned by this president – has been one of the most potent economic drivers of this recovery, the biggest contributor to an improving balance of payments picture and has provided Obama significant leverage in digging out of his difficulties in the Middle East.

President Obama and fellow members of the flat earth society, who many years ago wrote off the future of conventional energy resources, must be stunned. The president has noted more than once that “we are running out of places to drill” and that “we have only 2 percent of the world’s oil reserves.” What a surprise, then, that the U.S. is on track to become the world’s largest oil and gas producer, likely overtaking Russia this year.

As noted recently in the Wall Street Journal, because advancements in horizontal drilling and fracking made huge new reserves economic, domestic production of natural gas last year was an all-time high--up 13 percent over the 2010 level, and 27 percent higher than output in 2002. In July, gas production was 56 percent higher than the recent monthly low recorded in September 2005. Similarly, oil output, which had declined steadily since 1970, turned up in 2010, and has increased 27 percent over the past five years, laying to rest the once-popular notion that we are running out of the stuff. That, my friends, is progress.

What does this unexpected windfall mean for the U.S.? First of all, it means jobs. From the beginning of 2007 through the end of 2012, the number of private sector jobs in the U.S. increased by about 1 percent. Over the same period, the number of people working in the oil and natural gas industry increased by 40 percent, accounting for more than 15 percent of the country’s overall gains.

A study by analytics and research firm IHS says unconventional oil and natural gas production and energy-related chemicals activity together supported more than 2.1 million jobs in 2012;  the authors project the sectors will employ 3.9 million workers by 2025.

In addition, U.S. job growth will be spurred by the cost advantage U.S. firms have over competitors burdened by higher cost energy. Boston Consulting Group is projecting that   by 2015, natural gas will be 60 to 70 percent cheaper, and electricity 40 to 70 percent less costly in the U.S. than in Europe and Japan.

Second, the shale revolution means lower imports. Our net imports of crude oil and refined products in 2005 totaled a record 12.5 million barrels per day; last year that had collapsed to 7.4 mb/d. The impact on our trade deficit has been profound. For example, the trade gap in December 2012 was the smallest in nearly three years, as exports of oil and other petroleum products rose to a record high and oil imports fell to 223 billion barrels, the lowest level since February 1997.

Third, it means a seismic shift in geopolitical alignments. Middle East oil and gas production going forward is not as consequential as in the past, and Russia’s power is diminished. Iran’s ability to threaten the world with production disruptions is reduced, which is one reason they are circling the negotiating table. Similarly, Russia’s clout and economy are threatened by the rising tide of U.S. production. Some seventy percent of Russia’s export revenue and 17 percent of GDP stems from oil.

To satisfy those who put him in office, Russian President Putin is spending heavily, running a budget deficit that will be closed only through higher oil prices – less likely due to our increasing output. Soon, as LNG exports gear up from the U.S. and elsewhere, Russia will no longer be able to punish Europe by withholding natural gas in exchange for political slights.

These are extraordinary changes – brought about by energy investment still opposed by the environmental fringe in the U.S. These people fear hydraulic fracking in spite of study upon study that shows the process to be safe and productive, and regardless of the long successful history of the approach. Happily, those with clearer vision are propelling our country forward; we all reap the benefits.
- See more at: http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2013/10/04/Surprise-Koch-Brothers-Are-Boosting-Obama#sthash.D17EBX8W.hmPFRjCb.dpuf

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« Reply #123 on: October 05, 2013, 09:12:15 pm »

Thesis

Antithesis

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http://news.yahoo.com/republicans-see-shutdown-fight-shift-away-obamacare-215949746.html
10/5/13
Republicans see shutdown fight shift away from 'Obamacare'

Washington (AFP) - With their leadership clinging to its strategy of demanding changes to the health care law, some rank-and-file Republicans acknowledged Saturday that ending the US government shutdown requires a new game plan.

Without question, a repeal or delay of the law known as "Obamacare" remains a top priority for Republican lawmakers, who for weeks have insisted on making any bill that funds government contingent on rolling back President Barack Obama's signature domestic achievement.

But a handful of Tea Party-supported conservatives have publicly backed off that fight, one which caused deep rifts within the Republican Party and led to some very public sniping among Republicans on the Senate floor.

With the shutdown battle being subsumed by debate over the need to raise the debt ceiling in the next two weeks, they said the focus needs to shift to strictly fiscal issues.

"I won't be happy with that but I recognize the writing on the wall," congressman Doug Lamborn told reporters during a rare weekend session for the House of Representatives.

"We've tried a lot of things, and maybe used every arrow in our quiver against Obamacare. It has not been successful, so I think we do have to move on to the larger issues of the debt ceiling and the overall budget."

That is no small admission from the man National Journal named in 2010 as the most conservative member of the House.

He was joined by congressman Dennis Ross, another favorite of the anti-tax, pro-small-government Tea Party movement.

"Pride, I think, has got to be swallowed here, probably on both sides," Ross said.

"We're so close to the debt ceiling that I think the two will continue to be combined as we go forward."

The US Treasury says it will run out of money to pay creditors on October 17, triggering a potentially calamitous default unless Congress votes to raise the $16.7 trillion debt ceiling.

Despite the approaching crisis, Republican leadership suggested Saturday that "Obamacare" remained the lynchpin in the party's strategy.

"The Republican position has continued to be, no special treatment under the law, no special treatment under Obamacare," number two House Republican Eric Cantor said.

The White House has held firm that it will accept no changes to the Affordable Care Act, and Ross appeared frustrated with his party's failure to adapt to the political reality that linking Obamacare with the funding of government would be a non-starter.

"I think expectations were built up to a level that could not be delivered," he said.

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« Reply #124 on: October 07, 2013, 08:24:56 am »

Obamacare's winners and losers in Bay Area

Cindy Vinson and Tom Waschura are big believers in the Affordable Care Act. They vote independent and are proud to say they helped elect and re-elect President Barack Obama.

Yet, like many other Bay Area residents who pay for their own medical insurance, they were floored last week when they opened their bills: Their policies were being replaced with pricier plans that conform to all the requirements of the new health care law.

Vinson, of San Jose, will pay $1,800 more a year for an individual policy, while Waschura, of Portola Valley, will cough up almost $10,000 more for insurance for his family of four.

"Welcome to the club," said Robert Laszewksi, a prominent health care consultant and president of Health Policy and Strategy Associates in Virginia.

For years, the nation has been embroiled in the political rhetoric of "Obamacare," but this past week the reality of the new law sank in as millions of Americans had their first good look at how the 3 1/2-year-old legislation will affect their pocketbooks.

This much quickly became clear:

As state- and federal-run health insurance exchanges debuted across the country offering a range of prices for different tiers of insurance coverage, the new online marketplaces -- which represent the centerpiece of Obamacare -- could greatly benefit more than 40 million Americans who now lack coverage. But an additional 16 million -- who buy individual health insurance policies on the open market -- are finding out that their plans may not comply with the new law, which requires 10 essential benefits such as maternity care, mental health care and prescription drug coverage.

In California, 1.9 million people buy plans on the open market, according to officials with Covered California, the state's new health insurance exchange. And many of them are steaming mad.

"There's going to be a number of people surprised" by their bills, said Jonathan Wu, a co-founder of ValuePenguin, a consumer finance website. "The upper-middle class are the people who are essentially being asked to foot the bill, and that's true across the country."

Covered California spokesman Dana Howard maintained that in public presentations the exchange has always made clear that there will be winners and losers under Obamacare.

"Some people will see an increase who are already on the individual market purchasing insurance," he said, "but most people will not."

Covered California officials note that at least 570,000 of the 1.9 million people who buy their own insurance should be eligible for subsidies that will reduce their premiums.

Even those who don't qualify for the tax subsidies could see their rates drop because Obamacare doesn't allow insurers to charge people more if they have pre-existing conditions such as diabetes and cancer, he said.

People like Marilynn Gray-Raine.

The 64-year-old Danville artist, who survived breast cancer, has purchased health insurance for herself for decades. She watched her Anthem Blue Cross monthly premiums rise from $317 in 2005 to $1,298 in 2013. But she found out last week from the Covered California site that her payments will drop to about $795 a month.

But people with no pre-existing conditions like Vinson, a 60-year-old retired teacher, and Waschura, a 52-year-old self-employed engineer, are making up the difference.

"I was laughing at Boehner -- until the mail came today," Waschura said, referring to House Speaker John Boehner, who is leading the Republican charge to defund Obamacare.

"I really don't like the Republican tactics, but at least now I can understand why they are so pissed about this. When you take $10,000 out of my family's pocket each year, that's otherwise disposable income or retirement savings that will not be going into our local economy."

Both Vinson and Waschura have adjusted gross incomes greater than four times the federal poverty level -- the cutoff for a tax credit. And while both said they anticipated their rates would go up, they didn't realize they would rise so much.

"Of course, I want people to have health care," Vinson said. "I just didn't realize I would be the one who was going to pay for it personally."

A frustrated Vinson went on the Covered California site to see what she would pay for the same policy if she lived in Los Angeles or Sacramento. She discovered she would save at least $100 monthly.

According to data compiled by ValuePenguin, Santa Clara County, San Mateo County, San Francisco as well as Santa Cruz, Monterey and San Benito counties have some of the highest health insurance rates in the state. Covered California officials say that in addition to the higher cost of living here, more hospitals in the Bay Area are owned by hospital groups that can demand higher rates because of the lack of competition.

Not all of the sticker shock can be blamed on Obamacare.

Health care inflation costs routinely increase at least 4 percent annually, said Ken Wood, a senior adviser for Covered California. Those increases, he noted, are due to an aging population and the rising costs of new medical technology and drugs, among other factors.

But Wood, Wu and others also said premiums will rise as a result of people getting better insurance under the new law, which requires most Americans, with few exceptions, to buy health insurance no later than March 31, or pay a minimum $95 annual penalty.

The law's intent is to cover people who are now uninsured by making insurance accessible to everybody. But that means rates will rise for many because sick and healthy people will now be charged the same premium.

Adding a required list of 10 essential benefits to all plans is also significant. A study published last year in the journal Health Affairs said more than half of Americans who had individual insurance in 2010 were enrolled in plans that would not qualify because they didn't meet all the new requirements.

Wood likened these mandates to the higher cost of buying cars today that must have safety features like air bags and anti-lock brakes.

The law also will often make some policies more expensive because it limits out-of-pocket expenses to $6,350 annually for an individual and $12,700 for a family. In addition, the law restricts the minimum and maximum premiums that people can be charged based on their age.

Now, a 64-year-old can be charged almost five times more than a 21-year-old. Beginning Jan. 1, it will be a 3-1 ratio.

Those explanations, however, don't completely satisfy Waschura and Vinson.

"I'm not against Obamacare," Waschura said. "It's just the initial shock. I'm holding out hope that there will be a correction over a handful of years."

But to Gray-Raine, the breast cancer survivor from the East Bay, that correction has already come.

"Obamacare is a huge step in the right direction for those of us without employer coverage," she said, adding that she hopes everyone will "join in and make this new legislation a success for all."

http://www.mercurynews.com/nation-world/ci_24248486/obamacares-winners-and-losers-bay-area
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« Reply #125 on: October 07, 2013, 08:27:30 am »

My own insurance plan is going away through my work. And we have to get on a new plan. The most affordable one lowers my monthly payment some but now i am stuck with a $4,000.00 deductible that has to be paid first every year before the actual plan kicks in. I dont have 4 thousand dollars to pay every year.

I have insurance but i cant use it. Thanx Obama, as i know im not the only one in this kind of mess.
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Hopefully, 1 The 4:13-18 happens soon! Smiley
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« Reply #127 on: October 07, 2013, 11:02:16 am »

If you don't mind me mentioning this...

Jesse Ventura was on CNN on Friday, and guess what, this so-called "truther" and anti-political establishment, SUPPORTS Obamacare! He said how America should have socialized medicine b/c other Western countries have it and seem to be doing OK.

Pt I'm trying to make here is that I read a thread on PPF the other day how posters there got excited over Ventura announcing a potential 2016 run, and he seems to be loved by the "truth" movement as well. Ultimately, don't you see how all of these socialist ideas have infiltrated ALL sectors?(Democrats, Republicans, "truth" movement, etc, etc) Newt Gingrich came out recently endorsing Obamacare. Mike Rivero(another "truther" media analyst) endorses socialized medicine. And now Ventura. And not to mention too Ron Paul was a Reagan-establishment supporter.

Anyhow - I know this is pretty sensitive now(believe me, if I had a family, I would be very concerned too) - while all the other Hegelian Dialectic establishments were pointing fingers at Obama, they themselves have been quietly supporting it too.
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« Reply #128 on: October 07, 2013, 11:05:29 am »

Jesse is a "truther" on some things, nut like mos people i know in the "ruther" movement, especially the AJ sect, are socialists. Jesse is a socialist.

Jesse Ventura Considers Himself A Libertarian Marxist | The Daily

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« Reply #129 on: October 07, 2013, 03:10:58 pm »

My own insurance plan is going away through my work. And we have to get on a new plan. The most affordable one lowers my monthly payment some but now i am stuck with a $4,000.00 deductible that has to be paid first every year before the actual plan kicks in. I dont have 4 thousand dollars to pay every year.

I have insurance but i cant use it. Thanx Obama, as i know im not the only one in this kind of mess.

I feel ya brother! But that deductible will go up to just over 6k, or over 12k for you and your wife. But regardless, you know the feeling of the reality that people like us just don't have even $4,000 cash per person up front each year. The high deductible is in effect the second half of your monthly premium. Spread it out over 12 months and add it to the premium and THAT is your monthly premium.

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The law also will often make some policies more expensive because it limits out-of-pocket expenses to $6,350 annually for an individual and $12,700 for a family.

$6350/year?

That's $529.17 a month over a year. That is ON TOP of your monthly premium!

What's affordable about that? Nothing. We are seeing a massive theft taking place by insurers, with assistance by government.

Now imagine getting let's say, a half a million illegal immigrants, to get their shiny new driver's license, with all fees of course, then get those same people to sign up for health insurance and register to vote, and bingo, you got 500,000+ new customers and tax payers, each now committed to paying effectively over $1000 per month.

500k x $1,000/month =  That's $500 MILLION, per month.

Now can you see the motivation? The love of money.
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« Reply #130 on: October 08, 2013, 12:07:53 am »

Christian40, I don't mean to call you out here, but if you don't mind me asking - does Australia/New Zealand have socialized medicine?
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« Reply #131 on: October 08, 2013, 12:24:34 am »

Infowars article - but the reason why I'm posting this is b/c there is going to come a time where all of us is going to really have to examine whether we're in the faith. Believe me - my parents want me to sign up, and anxiety is really creeping up on me with this as well. May the Lord's will be done, but I pray my parents just forget about it. Ultimately, and I really hate to say this, but if we have to be put on the streets for refusing this, at the very least we have our KJBs, are separated from the world almost completely, and our redemption is drawing even nigher.

And as much as I hate to say this in this thread - once the prosperity gospel/social justice NIV bible hit the market in 1978, it pretty much put the final nail in America's coffin.

http://www.infowars.com/obamacare-fines-to-be-seized-from-bank-accounts/
Obamacare Fines to be Seized From Bank Accounts?
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Man who attempted to sign up claims he was threatened with drivers license being revoked, federal tax lien on home

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A man who attempted to sign up for Obamacare online was told that a fine of over $4,000 dollars a year for refusing to take out mandatory health insurance could be taken directly from his bank account, and that his drivers license would be suspended and a federal tax lien placed against his home, according to an entry on the HealthCare.gov Facebook page.

If true, the implementation of Obamacare is going to be a whole lot more draconian than Americans have been led to believe.

Will Sheehan claims that when he tried to sign up for Obamacare and then register to opt out, he received an ominous warning. Sheehan’s full Facebook post reads;

“I actually made it through this morning at 8:00 A.M. I have a preexisting condition (Type 1 Diabetes) and my income base was 45K-55K annually I chose tier 2 “Silver Plan” and my monthly premiums came out to $597.00 with $13,988 yearly deductible!!! There is NO POSSIBLE way that I can afford this so I “opt-out” and chose to continue along with no insurance.

I received an email tonight at 5:00 P.M. informing me that my fine would be $4,037 and could be attached to my yearly income tax return. Then you make it to the “REPERCUSSIONS PORTION” for “non-payment” of yearly fine. First, your drivers license will be suspended until paid, and if you go 24 consecutive months with “Non-Payment” and you happen to be a home owner, you will have a federal tax lien placed on your home. You can agree to give your bank information so that they can easy “Automatically withdraw” your “penalties” weekly, bi-weekly or monthly! This by no means is “Free” or even “Affordable.”

Sheehan went on to point out that the site makes you input all your personal information before giving you an indication of the costs, meaning a database of the “uninsured” is being built. He added that he could not afford to pay the premium so would have to break the law and pay the fine, leaving him with no health care coverage.

The federal government has consistently denied that any fines pertaining to Obamacare non-compliance could be seized from bank accounts, despite reports last year that the IRS had hired 16,500 new agents to harass citizens who attempt to evade the new law.

“There’s no criminal sanctions for not paying this, and there’s no ability to levy a bank account or do seizures,” then-IRS commissioner Douglas Shulman said in April 2010.

In addition, Americans who refuse to pay for mandatory health insurance “shall not be subject to any criminal prosecution,” according to the law itself.

Section 1501(g)(2) of the Affordable Care Act also states that the IRS cannot “file notice of lien with respect to any property of a taxpayer by reason of any failure to pay the penalty imposed by this section.”

Either Sheehan’s claim that he received this notice is a lie, or the feds have been dishonest with the American people all along, and the revolt against Obamacare is about to take “don’t tread on me” to a whole new level.

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2Peter 3:13  Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
2Pe 3:14  Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
2Pe 3:15  And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
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Either Sheehan’s claim that he received this notice is a lie, or the feds have been dishonest with the American people all along, and the revolt against Obamacare is about to take “don’t tread on me” to a whole new level.

 Roll Eyes It's neither one!

This article is suspect at best. Not sure what is going on, but this person's claims are based on an email he received AFTER he left the government website. What he claims is what was apparently stated in that email. THAT is a red flag, the email.

He received a bogus email. It's phishing. There have been warnings about scams over the health care. If you receive any emails on this stuff, DO NOT open any attachments and just delete the email. Typical red flag is the threats of taking your money and a lien on your house. Sounds like the Nigerian scam.

PPF/Infowars strikes again with sensational and embellished articles. Standard junk from Paul Watson where he has turned that rag into nothing more than the National Enquirer.
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« Reply #134 on: October 09, 2013, 06:51:45 am »

Has ANYONE Actually Been Able To Successfully Sign Up For Obamacare Yet?

Do you know anyone that has been able to get past all of the glitches and sign up for health insurance using one of the Obamacare websites?  Thousands of applications have been “started”, but the mainstream media has been desperately searching for someone that has actually been able to successfully get enrolled and so far they haven’t been able to find a single example.  The Obama administration had been promoting the story of one 21-year-old student from Georgia, but it turns out that his “success story” was a fraud and he was not actually successful in signing up for health insurance yet.  So exactly what in the world is going on here?  Certainly a few of the millions of visitors to these websites must have successfully signed up for health insurance, right?  In the end, whether a handful of Americans have been able to sign up for health insurance or not is not the real issue.  The real issue is that the launch of the most highly touted health law in U.S. history has been an epic fail.

The Obama administration has been so desperate to show that the Obamacare health insurance exchanges are working that even Kathleen Sebelius, the secretary of Health and Human Services, tweeted the news story about the 21-year-old student down in Georgia getting enrolled in Obamacare.  Unfortunately for the Obama administration, the story was not actually true…

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Has ANYONE Actually Been Able To Successfully Sign Up For Obamacare Yet?

Do you know anyone that has been able to get past all of the glitches and sign up for health insurance using one of the Obamacare websites?  Thousands of applications have been “started”, but the mainstream media has been desperately searching for someone that has actually been able to successfully get enrolled and so far they haven’t been able to find a single example.  The Obama administration had been promoting the story of one 21-year-old student from Georgia, but it turns out that his “success story” was a fraud and he was not actually successful in signing up for health insurance yet.  So exactly what in the world is going on here?  Certainly a few of the millions of visitors to these websites must have successfully signed up for health insurance, right?  In the end, whether a handful of Americans have been able to sign up for health insurance or not is not the real issue.  The real issue is that the launch of the most highly touted health law in U.S. history has been an epic fail.

The Obama administration has been so desperate to show that the Obamacare health insurance exchanges are working that even Kathleen Sebelius, the secretary of Health and Human Services, tweeted the news story about the 21-year-old student down in Georgia getting enrolled in Obamacare.  Unfortunately for the Obama administration, the story was not actually true…

more: http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/epic-fail-has-anyone-actually-been-able-to-successfully-sign-up-for-obamacare-yet

Yeah, I was wondering this too - the government so badly wants everyone to yoke up with it, but so far it's been almost impossible for anyone to sign up?

I dunno, but this definitely has been a train wreck from the start - maybe they should have called it "Trainwreckcare"...
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/millions-workers-may-choose-part-131500251.html
Millions Of Workers May Choose To Go Part-Time Once Obamacare Kicks In
10/9/13

At the beginning of 2014, there may be millions of full-time workers who transition to part-time status.

The surge in part-timers is expected for two reasons. First, many believe the Affordable Care Act, commonly called the ACA or Obamacare,  has resulted in companies cutting employee hours to get around providing health care to employees working more than 30 hours a week.

Under the health-care reform, companies with at least 50 employees are required to provide medical coverage to full-time workers (those working more than 30 hours per week) or face fines that start at $2,000 per worker not covered.

Second, the ACA will enable part-timers to have access to medical benefits that rival those of full-timers, giving them greater freedom to choose part-time work.

The perk that is usually offered only to full-time employees — affordable health care — will now be offered to part-time employees. As a result, millions of workers who are working full-time may choose to work part-time instead, University of Chicago economics professor Casey Mulligan said in a recent paper published with the  National Bureau of Economic Research.

Workers who choose to reduce their own hours may end up faring better financially by paying lower  premiums offered to part-time rs through government exchanges ra ther than working a few more hours and  purchasing health care through an employer, s aid Mulligan.

"Moving from full-time employment to part-time employment will trigger generous assistance with health premiums and out-of-pocket expenses that can offset much of the income lost due to reduced work hours," said Mulligan.  Under the health-care reform, the cost of insurance will be subsidized depending on your income.

In a leaked internal email  that was published in  The Washington Post , a Trader Joe exec wrote that one employee — a single mom with one child — who makes $18 per hour and works around 25 hours per week, currently pays $166.50 per month for her health-care plan purchased through the company. When the ACA plans kick in next year, this employee will be able to purchase an  "almost identical" plan for $69.59 per month, meaning she will save about $1,175 annually on health care.

Mulligan said the reduced hours will allow workers to have more leisure time and lower work-related costs such as child-care, since working less enables part-timers to  spend more time with their children instead of paying for a nanny or day-care service.

Annie Lowrey and John Harwood at The New York Times write that the ACA may also reduce  "job lock," which describes when workers are afraid to quit their jobs or reduce their hours for fear of losing  medical coverage

With more health-care options, workers might have greater freedom in choosing between part-time or full-time work. However, it's still too soon to tell how an increase in part-time workers might affect companies and the U.S. economy.

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The reason why I highlighted everything in red with this article is b/c it reminded me over how lately I've been reading about the Millennial Generation and their insistence to have "flexible" work hours and other "incentives" so they can be pleased. No, I am NOT trying to belittle young people(we have a couple of Millennials that are in the faith and in the KJB), and no this article doesn't discuss Millennials(but like I said, things in this article reminded me of other agendas being pushed), but nonetheless just look at this pattern that's going on lately...

The Illuminati minions are just finding all sorts of ways to push their wealth-redistribution agenda - pretty much, the people getting offered these "incentives" are the ones that are putting the LEAST amount of effort(not all, but most of them). I don't know if everything in this article is true or more propaganda, but nonetheless you can see this very agenda being pushed.


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« Reply #137 on: October 11, 2013, 03:45:19 pm »

Thousands of doctors fired by United HealthCare

In the midst of major changes in health care, UnitedHealthCare has sent thousands of pink slips to Connecticut doctors.     
 
Termination letters went to physicians caring for Medicare patients. Those letters were sent out to doctors caring for 'Medicare Advantage' patients. It's a plan, marketed to Seniors to provide additional services through UnitedHealthCare.
 
A mix of primary care and specialty doctors are affected by it. And it comes at a questionable time.
   
 Open enrollment for Medicare starts next Tuesday, and it's still not clear at this time as to which doctors are still in the United network.   
   
 The Connecticut State Medical Society is fighting back. The biggest concern is patient access to healthcare.
 
"What the government is looking for is to manage better care by adding a patient centered medical home so that you have a doctor who is totally invested with taking care of every aspect of the patient and coordinating it. This is clearly not a patient centered decision," said Dr. Michael Saffir, President of CT State Medical Society.   
 
 Dr. Saffir says the State Medical Society is in contact with UnitedHealthcare. They are also asking doctors to call United to find out why they were terminated without cause as notified in the letter.
 
 He recommends that Seniors affected by this should call the office of the HealthCare Advocate of Connecticut.

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Looks like we're seeing the one world health system coming close now...
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/11/Sources-Ryan-Compromise-Will-Keep-Obamacare-Forever
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Sources: Ryan Compromise Will Keep Obamacare 'Forever'

Breitbart News reported that House Republicans have offered a new deal to the White House to end the fiscal stalemate. The GOP plan, authored primarily by House Budget Chair Rep. Paul Ryan according to Hill sources, would meet Obama's demands in exchange for negotiations on a longer-term budget agreement.

At least two high-ranking Capitol Hill sources have told Breitbart News that Ryan’s plan would also help protect Obamacare as it is currently implemented.

Ryan's office deny the claims. “What your sources are attempting to attribute to Congressman Ryan is not accurate,” Kevin Seifert, Ryan’s spokesman, said in an email.

But the Capitol Hill conservative sources are adamant Ryan offered at least two things that they say would mitigate some of Obamacare's hardest-hitting effects on certain communities that are needed for the GOP to take the law down in the end.

The high-ranking conservative source said that this deal will ensure America has "Obamacare forever" and that Ryan's "pro union votes are really coming to light now."

At a meeting on Friday morning, the sources said Ryan’s plan was presented to a group of members. Ryan's plan would grant President Barack Obama a no-strings-attached “clean” debt ceiling increase for six weeks and acquiesce to Obama’s latest demand that Republicans also pass a Continuing Resolution to end the partial government shutdown.

The plan was pitched to a room full of members of the House GOP caucus. Not only would Ryan’s plan amount to a GOP capitulation on the debt ceiling and budget, it would mitigate certain effects of Obamacare to help labor unions and members of the business community.

The grand bargain Ryan is attempting to negotiate would include a repeal of the medical device sales tax, a part of Obamacare even liberal Sen. Al Franken (D-MN) supports removing.

The high-ranking sources also claimed Ryan was trying to negotiate a proposal that would increase from 30 to 39 the number of weekly hours worked to qualify as a full-time worker that would trigger the mandate that employers provide health insurance or pay a $2,000 per employee fine. The sources described this proposal as a hand-out to labor unions. The 30 hour threshold in ObamaCare annoyed people like Teamsters Union President Jimmy Hoffa, Jr. and prompted him recently to speak out against Obamacare. 

The source also said Ryan’s "grand bargain" would increase the number of employees a company may have without providing health insurance from 50 up to 100. This would mitigate effects on the larger members of the small business community, who are currently some of the most ardent opponents of Obamacare.

Ultimately, one of the sources says, such proposals end up keeping Obamacare the law of the land "forever" as it would take away from momentum against it.
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« Reply #140 on: October 14, 2013, 07:38:16 am »

The New Age Movement, in particular, has been begging for more and more technology. And throw in these Steven Greer types for good measure.

http://www.thestreet.com/story/12067104/1/health-care-reform-paving-the-way-for-new-technologies.html?puc=yahoo&cm_ven=YAHOO
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Health Care Reform Paving the Way for New Technologies

NEW YORK (TheStreet) -- "Obamacare" may not please everybody, but Americans of all political stripes already benefit from at least one by-product of the new law: innovative health care technologies that make it easier and cheaper to access quality health care.
 
A key driver for technology creation within Obamacare is the idea of "accountable care," where providers receive financial incentives for delivering high quality care at a lower cost. If the old economic model was to build a hospital and fill it with paying patients, the new model rewards medical professionals for keeping people healthy and out of the building as much as possible.

Accountable care requires that "hospitals defend the perimeter against avoidable admission," said George Pace, a health care industry executive based in North Carolina. "If I'm there because of a heart attack, okay, but it's not okay if it's because I forgot to take my medications. You have to expand the continuum of care into the community and identify and address symptoms, illnesses, and behaviors before they escalate."

That's where technology comes in. Just as doctors and hospitals leverage "physician extenders" such as nurse practitioners and physician assistants to provide a broad range of services, said Pace, "technology extenders" such as mobile telemedicine, real-time collaborative tools and electronic monitoring systems will increasingly be used to maximize the reach of medical professionals, all while lowering costs.

In some rural communities, for example, local doctors have started to utilize remote presence devices -- call them "robo-docs" -- to teleconference with distant specialists as they examine patients. In the past, patients might have been forced to travel hundreds of miles at great expense to meet with specialists, or perhaps would have skipped the trip, only to land in the emergency room shortly thereafter.

Mark Twain Medical Center, a small, 25-bed hospital in San Andreas, California, recently acquired the RP-VITA, an advanced telemedicine robot from InTouch Health and iRobot (IRBT_). Outside medical specialists can direct RP-VITA, which looks a bit like R2D2 from Star Wars, only taller and with better posture, to a patient's bedside to initiate a consultation or exam.

"We're just beginning to realize telemedicine's true potential in disease prevention," writes InTouch Health on its corporate blog. "It doesn't take a genius to understand that a 340-pound patient who doesn't exercise or make regular primary care visits is a prime candidate for a stroke or heart attack. Telehealth e-visits and follow-ups can go a long way toward eliminating the need for remote stroke consultations down the road."

Accountable care also encourages health professionals across multiple disciplines and locations to collaborate on clinical care to avoid superfluous medical expenditures. Cooperation becomes even more vital as millions of newly insured patients -- many with chronic conditions and little or no medical history -- enter the health care system under the Affordable Care Act. That, said Pace, gives rise to a need for technologies that deliver personalized, real-time patient data into the hands of medical staff.

One such technology comes from AirStrip, whose AirStrip ONE health care mobility solution creates a "virtual bedside" by transmitting live, secure data from medical devices, patient monitors, and electronic medical records (EMR) to smartphones and tablets. AirStrip products initially covered obstetrics and in the last several years have expanded to include cardiology, patient monitoring and EMR.
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http://wallstcheatsheet.com/stocks/why-does-the-gop-really-hate-obamacare.html/?ref=YF
Why Does the GOP Really Hate Obamacare?
10/15/13

The grounds for the Republican Party’s opposition to the Affordable Care Act are far from a single coherent argument. It is all the more confusing because one of the health care reform’s key provisions, the individual insurance mandate, has conservative origins. The requirement that individuals be required to purchase health insurance first emerged in Republican health care reform bills introduced in 1993 as alternatives to the Clinton administration’s plan.

That mandate was also a prominent feature of the Massachusetts plan passed under Gov. Mitt Romney in 2006. According to Romney, “we got the idea of an individual mandate from [Newt Gingrich], and [Newt] got it from the Heritage Foundation,” Forbes reports. Furthermore, as Bill Keller argued in an op-ed for The New York Times, the GOP should be “the people who ought to be most vigorously applauding this success story” because the reform of the United States’s “overpriced, underperforming health care system” was done almost entirely with market incentives instead of government decree.

The fact that the idea of the individual mandate developed out of GOP rhetoric proves that the party is not opposed to the thought of making insurance affordable to millions of Americans. “Many states now require passengers in automobiles to wear seat-belts for their own protection,” Stuart Butler, a health care expert for the conservative-leaning Heritage Foundation, wrote in a 1989 brief titled Assuring Affordable Health Care for All Americans. “Many others require anybody driving a car to have liability insurance. But neither the federal government nor any state requires all households to protect themselves from the potentially catastrophic costs of a serious accident or illness.”

So the argument goes that just as legally mandated insurance makes economic sense for automobiles, it makes sense for health care, as well.

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http://news.yahoo.com/next-obamacare-challenge-one-step-closer-supreme-court-132205051--politics.html
10/22/13
Next Obamacare challenge one step closer to Supreme Court

A national hobby and crafts chain store has asked the Supreme Court to hear a case that will present the next big challenge to the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare.

Hobby Lobby petitioned the Supreme Court on Monday to take up its case challenging the ObamaCare birth control mandate that applies to for-profit companies.

The move is slightly unusual, since Hobby Lobby won its most-recent appeals decision in the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals and in effect the Court could overrule a decision that Hobby Lobby has already won.

But circuit courts have had conflicting rulings in related cases, creating the kind of controversy that almost guarantees the Supreme Court’s attention.

On Monday evening, the Obama administration repeated its request for the Court to take up the Hobby Lobby case, and to wait on hearing a second case, the Conestoga Wood case, until the Court rules on Hobby Lobby.

Representing Hobby Lobby in its brief is Paul Clement, who argued before the bench in the 2012 Affordable Care Act decision. Solicitor General Donald Verrilli will oppose Clement, as he did during the 2012 arguments over Obamacare in front of the Justices.

The Obama administration had asked the Supreme Court on September 19 to grant the case for review during the Court’s current term. In all likelihood, the Court will accept the case, based on the precedents set by similar executive branch requests.

In July, U.S. District Judge Joe Heaton granted Hobby Lobby and its sister company, Mardel Christian bookstore, a temporary exemption from a ACA requirement that it provide insurance coverage for morning-after pills and similar emergency birth control methods and devices.

The Obama administration’s lawyers want the Justices to decide if corporations can claim a religious exemption to this one part of the ACA.

What’s uncertain is if the Court will accept just the Hobby Lobby case, or combine it with the Conestoga Wood case.

Conestoga is a Mennonite family-owned, profit-making business, and it claims that the ACA’s birth control mandate violates the company’s rights under the First Amendment and the federal Religious Freedom Restoration Act. The Third Circuit rejected that argument.
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It's baffling over why these people don't hire independent law firms to represent them.
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http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/22/baltimore-ravens-receive-130000-in-taxpayer-cash-to-promote-obamacare/
Baltimore Ravens receive $130,000 in taxpayer cash to promote Obamacare
10/22/13

The Super Bowl champion Baltimore Ravens are receiving $130,000 in public funds to promote Obamacare for a year, according to documents obtained by Judicial Watch.

In September, officials with Maryland Health Connection — Maryland’s Obamacare exchange — announced that the team had signed on to be a partner in the promotion efforts for President Obama’s signature health-care law.

“Research shows that 71 percent of the uninsured population in Maryland have watched, attended or listened to a Ravens game in the past 12 months,” the Connection’s press announcement explained.

“The partnership will provide Maryland Health Connection with the opportunity to reach and engage fans while making them aware of the new opportunity they have for health coverage beginning this fall through the health insurance marketplace,” it added.

The deal between the Ravens and Maryland Health Connection was finalized on Sept. 9 and according to Judicial Watch the $130,000 deal requires that the Super Bowl champions promote the exchange on television, radio, the team website, its news letter, and social media.

The National Football League declined appeals from the Obama administration to help sell Obamacare over the summer.
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After Supporting Obamacare, Liberal Daily Beast Columnist Gets an Unwelcome Health Care Surprise in the Mail

Daily Beast columnist Kirsten Powers, who has been an Obamacare supporter, admitted on “The Kelly File” Thursday that her insurance premiums will nearly double from $160 per month to about $300 per month if she wants to keep the same deductible.
 
The reality of higher premiums and the broken promise that Americans can keep their current health care plans isn’t “quite the way they sold it,” she said.
 
“I’m in the individual market and I got the letter, the same letter everyone’s talking about. I live in D.C., so it’s a state exchange, and I went on and I guess I can roughly get the same insurance…but it will go up from about $160 a month and a $2,500 deductible — if I want to keep a $2,500 deductible, it will go up to about $300 a month,” Powers explained.
 
The administration may argue that its the “young” and “healthy” who will see their premiums go up, but that’s really not “quite the way they sold it,” she added.

video: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/10/25/after-supporting-obamacare-liberal-daily-beast-columnist-discovers-reality-not-quite-the-way-they-sold-it/
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Kirsten Powers was a former Clinton admin advisor, who somehow is an "analyst" for FOX News now. Yeah, she's part of the globalist team.

Yes, she's telling the truth here, but nonetheless she's part of the opposition-controlled globalist team.
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« Reply #148 on: October 27, 2013, 04:08:31 am »

Yeah, Powers is a FOX News shill, regularly appearing on there. When I was watching Fox, she would come on there and debate O'Reilly. She's a strange one.

But I agree, she does have a point about the insurance. I you oppose Obamacare, this is a slam dunk because all the bad things being claimed about it are basically true.

$2,500 deductible? Who can afford that plan's premium? That must be the highest level plan you can get because the "bronze" plan is a $6300 deductible, and goes down with with "silver" and "platinum" plans, but I haven't seen a plan for THAT low of a deductible.

The news is trying to claim, or rather the White House is tossing out claims of over a half a million people have signed up for Obamacare. BULL. Prove it!
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