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« Reply #30 on: December 15, 2012, 03:46:47 am »

He was being sarcastic. Wink

The unnerving thing about this shooting, firstly, it was little kids. As shocking as that is, it doesn't surprise me they'd go to these extremes to get what they want. They will do whatever it takes to jolt a response out of the public and get them fired up on a topic, like gun control, and to distract the public from other major issues currently going on, like the fiscal cliff thing.

And Terrel Suggs, didn't have his guns taken, he voluntarily gave them up.

Also, OJ did not kill those people with a knife. OJ didn't kill anybody. Somebody used a knife on them, but it wasn't OJ. He may have some issues but I don't believe for a second he did it. I believe he was set up because the case was an easy, "The black guy did it". If you remember, that detective Mark Furman was singled out as being a racist, but they blew it off and tried to ignore it.

The wife and I watch a lot of the crime shows about real cases, and from what I've seen on those shows about real murder cases, only the really sick homicidal manics serial killer types commit such gruesome murders with such rage. And it's actually rather rare a killer goes to such extreme to do so much damage as they did to Simpson and Goldman. Your "average" domestic killing doesn't end up like that did at all. It's a crime of passion in the moment, a lashing out and it's quick, usually a gun shot or a knife stabbing that happens to kill the person. What happened with the Simpson murder doesn't fit a crime of passion between ex-mates. That killing was full on murderous rage. If they had just broke up, MAYBE he might lose it. but they had been separated for some time. Ron Goldman was just an employee at a restaurant, an innocent by-stander of sorts, in the wrong place and the wrong time.

Anyway, I get your point.
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« Reply #31 on: December 15, 2012, 09:49:58 am »

http://news.yahoo.com/police-world-wonder-conn-shooting-motive-080207412.html

12/15/12

Police, world wonder about Conn. shooting motive

NEWTOWN, Conn. (AP) — The massacre of 26 children and adults at a Connecticut elementary school elicited horror and soul-searching around the world even as it raised more basic questions about why the gunman, a 20-year-old described as brilliant but remote, was driven to such a crime and how he chose his victims.
 
Investigators were trying to learn more about Adam Lanza and questioned his older brother, who was not believed to have been involved in the rampage at Sandy Hook Elementary. Police shed no light on the motive for the second-deadliest school shooting in U.S. history.
 
In tight-knit Newtown on Friday night, hundreds of people packed St. Rose of Lima Church and stood outside in a vigil for the 28 dead — 20 children and six adults at the school, the gunman's mother at home, and the gunman himself, who committed suicide. People held hands, lit candles and sang "Silent Night."
 
"These 20 children were just beautiful, beautiful children," Monsignor Robert Weiss said. "These 20 children lit up this community better than all these Christmas lights we have. ... There are a lot brighter stars up there tonight because of these kids."
 
Lanza is believed to have suffered from a personality disorder and lived with his mother, said a law enforcement official who was briefed on the investigation.
 
Lanza shot his mother, Nancy Lanza, drove to the school in her car with at least three of her guns, and opened fire in two classrooms around 9:30 a.m. Friday, law enforcement officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity.
 
A custodian ran through the halls, warning of a gunman, and someone switched on the intercom, perhaps saving many lives by letting them hear the chaos in the school office, a teacher said. Teachers locked their doors and ordered children to huddle in a corner, duck under their desks or hide in closets as shots reverberated through the building.
 
The well-liked principal, Dawn Hochsprung, was believed to be among the dead. A woman who worked at the school was wounded.
 
Maryann Jacob, a clerk in the school library, was in there with 18 fourth-graders when they heard a commotion and gunfire outside the room. She had the youngsters crawl into a storage room, and they locked the door and barricaded it with a file cabinet. There happened to be materials for coloring, "so we set them up with paper and crayons."
 
After what she guessed was about an hour, officers came to the door and knocked, but those inside couldn't be sure it was the police.
 
"One of them slid his badge under the door, and they called and said, 'It's OK, it's the police,'" she said.
 
A law enforcement official speaking on condition of anonymity said investigators believe Lanza attended the school several years ago but appeared to have no recent connection to it. It was not clear whether he held a job.
 
At least one parent said Lanza's mother was a substitute teacher at the school. But her name did not appear on a staff list. And the official said investigators were unable to establish any connection so far between her and the school.
 
Lanza's older brother, 24-year-old Ryan Lanza, of Hoboken, N.J., was questioned, and investigators searched his computers and phone records, but he told law enforcement he had not been in touch with his brother since about 2010.
 
For about two hours late Friday and early Saturday, clergy members and emergency vehicles moved steadily to and from the school. The state medical examiner's office said bodies of the victims would be taken there for autopsies.
 
The gunman entered the kindergarten-through-fourth-grade school through the front door, and authorities are looking into the possibility that he shattered glass next to it to get in, police said.
 
He took three guns into the school — a Glock and a Sig Sauer, both semiautomatic pistols, and a .223-caliber Bushmaster rifle, according to an official who was not authorized to discuss information with reporters and spoke on the condition of anonymity. The weapons were registered to his slain mother.
 
Lanza and his mother lived in a well-to-do part of prosperous Newtown, about 60 miles northeast of New York City, where neighbors are doctors or hold white-collar positions at companies such as General Electric, Pepsi and IBM.
 
His parents filed for divorce in 2008, according to court records. His father, Peter Lanza, lives in Stamford, Conn., and works as a tax director for GE.
 
The gunman's aunt Marsha Lanza, of Crystal Lake, Ill., said her nephew was raised by kind, nurturing parents who would not have hesitated to seek mental help for him if he needed it.
 
"Nancy wasn't one to deny reality," Marsha Lanza said, adding her husband had seen Adam as recently as June and recalled nothing out of the ordinary.
 
Catherine Urso, of Newtown, said her college-age son knew the killer. "He just said he was very thin, very remote and was one of the goths," she said.
 
Lanza attended Newtown High School, and several news clippings from recent years mention his name among the honor roll students.
 
Joshua Milas, who graduated from Newtown High in 2009 and belonged to the school technology club with him, said that Lanza was generally a happy person but that he hadn't seen him in a few years.
 
"We would hang out, and he was a good kid. He was smart," Joshua Milas said. "He was probably one of the smartest kids I know. He was probably a genius."
 
The mass shooting is one of the deadliest in U.S. history, and among school attacks is second in victims only to the 2007 Virginia Tech massacre, which left 33 people dead, including the gunman. Reaction was swift and emotional in Newtown, a picturesque New England community of 27,000 people, as well as across the country and around the world.
 
"It has to stop, these senseless deaths," said Frank DeAngelis, principal of Colorado's Columbine High School, where a massacre in 1999 killed 15 people.
 
In Washington, the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence organized a vigil at the White House, with some protesters chanting, "Today IS the day" to take steps to curb gun violence. In New York's Times Square, a few dozen people held tea lights in plastic cups, with one woman holding a sign that read: "Take a moment and candle to remember the victims of the Newtown shooting."
 
President Barack Obama's comments on the tragedy amounted to one of the most outwardly emotional moments of his presidency.
 
"The majority of those who died were children — beautiful little kids between the ages of 5 and 10 years old," Obama said at a White House news briefing. He paused for several seconds to keep his composure as he teared up and wiped an eye. Nearby, two aides cried and held hands.
 
Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard described the attack as a "senseless and incomprehensible act of evil."
 
"Like President Obama and his fellow Americans, our hearts too are broken," Gillard said in a statement.
 
In Japan, where guns are severely restricted and there are extremely few gun-related crimes, the attack led the news two days before parliamentary elections. In China, which has seen several knife rampages at schools in recent years, the attack quickly consumed public discussion.
 
In Newtown, Robert Licata said his 6-year-old son was in class when the gunman burst in and shot the teacher. "That's when my son grabbed a bunch of his friends and ran out the door," he said. "He was very brave. He waited for his friends."
 
He said the shooter didn't utter a word.
 
Kaitlin Roig, a teacher at the school, said she implored her students to be quiet.
 
"I told them we had to be absolutely quiet. Because I was just so afraid if he did come in, then he would hear us and just start shooting the door. I said we have to be absolutely quiet. And I said there are bad guys out there now and we need to wait for the good guys to come get us out," Roig told ABC News.
 
"If they started crying, I would take their face and say, 'It's going to be OK. Show me your smile,'" she said. "They said, 'We want to go home for Christmas. Yes, yeah. I just want to hug my mom.' Things like that, that were just heartbreaking."
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« Reply #32 on: December 15, 2012, 11:00:26 am »

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/gun-control-petition-clears-white-house-response-threshold-232717126--politics.html

12/14/12

A petition calling on President Barack Obama to push for new gun control laws in the aftermath of the mass shooting at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn., has cleared the 25,000-signature threshold required to obtain a formal White House response.
 
The measure, filed in response to Friday's massacre, urges Obama to "immediately address the issue of gun control through the introduction of legislation in Congress."
 
"The goal of this petition is to force the Obama Administration to produce legislation that limits access to guns," it says. "While a national dialogue is critical, laws are the only means in which we can reduce the number of people murdered in gun related deaths."
 
Obama vowed on Friday to "take meaningful action, regardless of the politics," to prevent future tragedies like the shooting massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School.
 
"Our hearts are broken today," Obama said in a brief statement in the White House briefing room, frequently pausing to wipe tears from his eyes. "The majority of those who died today were children, beautiful little kids between the ages of 5 and 10 years old. They had their entire lives ahead of them: birthdays, graduations, weddings, kids of their own. Among the fallen were also teachers, men and women who devoted their lives to helping our children fulfill their dreams."
 
His comments came shortly after White House press secretary Jay Carney told reporters that "today's not the day" to push for gun control laws.

The petitioners plainly disagreed.
 
"Powerful lobbying groups allow the ownership of guns to reach beyond the Constitution's intended purpose of the right to bear arms. Therefore, Congress must act on what is stated law, and face the reality that access to firearms reaches beyond what the Second Amendment intends to achieve," the measure urges.
 
"The signatures on this petition represent a collective demand for a bipartisan discussion resulting in a set of laws that regulates how a citizen obtains a gun," it says.
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« Reply #33 on: December 15, 2012, 02:17:46 pm »

Mat 24:7  For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
Mat 24:8  All these are the beginning of sorrows.
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« Reply #34 on: December 15, 2012, 05:03:41 pm »

Father of Alleged Connecticut Shooter is VP of GE Capital According to Reports
15 December 2012, by Jack Blood (Deadline Live)
http://deadlinelive.info/2012/12/15/father-of-alleged-connecticut-shooter-is-vp-of-ge-capital-according-to-reports/#respond

Echos of the Batman Massacre – James Holmes father a high priest of computer economics at FICO – Allegedly investigating the LIBOR scandal which has indeed faded after the Aurora shootings…

GE Capital is onwed by GE – yeah THAT GE that operates outside of the law!

Founded by JP Morgan to corner the market in electricity (stolen Tesla patents) – GE is now a media – military industrial complex kingpin!

Morgan Stanley has also been implicated in the LIBOR Scandal! Lanza’s father was “questioned by Police”

According to Yahoo news, the alleged shooter at the Sandy Hook Elementary School, Adam Lanza, is the son of Vice President of GE Capital, Peter Lanza.

Peter Lanza is also a partner at Ernst & Young, and major accounting firm. The older brother, Ryan Lanza, is also reported to be employed at Ernst & Young.

Peter Lanza, who drove to northern New Jersey to talk to police and the FBI, is a vice president at GE Capital and had been a partner at global accounting giant Ernst & Young.

Adam’s older brother Ryan Lanza, 24, has worked at Ernst & Young for four years, apparently following in his father’s footsteps and carving out a solid niche in the tax practice.

He too was interviewed by the FBI. Neither he nor his father is under any suspicion.
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« Reply #35 on: December 15, 2012, 05:13:53 pm »

Dem. lawmaker: To get gun control, Obama must ‘exploit’ shooting

A veteran Democratic lawmaker believes the nation will go along with stronger gun control laws if President Obama “exploits” the Newtown, Conn., tragedy and nudges Congress to action.

Rep. Jerrold Nadler, who represents portions of New York City, said he was encouraged by Mr. Obama’s statement on Friday afternoon that the mass shooting, which claimed the lives of 20 young children, requires “meaningful action” by Congress, but hopes those words turn into concrete legislation.

“These incidents, these horrible, horrible incidents … are happening more and more frequently. And they will continue to happen more and more frequently until someone with the bully pulpit, and that means the president, takes leadership and pushes Congress,” Mr. Nadler said during an appearance on MSNBC’s “The Ed Show” with Ed Schultz.

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« Reply #36 on: December 15, 2012, 06:45:55 pm »

Reports: Nancy Lanza Wasn’t A Teacher At Sandy Hook Elementary
by Anjali Sareen | 11:08 am, December 15th, 2012
http://www.mediaite.com/online/reports-nancy-lanza-wasnt-a-teacher-at-sandy-hook-elementary/

Despite earlier reports that Nancy Lanza, mother of shooter Adam Lanza, was a teacher at Sandy Hook Elementary School, new details are emerging that suggest otherwise. CNN, The Wall Street Journal, and several other news outlets are reporting now that Nancy Lanza may not have had any connection to the school where the shootings took place.

Janet Vollmer, a kindergarten teacher at Sandy Hook Elementary, told CNN that Lanza was not a teacher there.

Lillian Bittman, a former school board official, said “no one has heard” of Lanza and that “teachers don’t know her.” Talking Points Memo reports that Lanza is not listed on the Newton School District Website. TPM also notes the origin of the misinformation may have been an AP story which quoted law enforcement officials “speaking on the condition of anonymity” about Lanza’s possible connection to school.

Other sources, such as The New York Times and Washington Post, each still have stories claiming Lanza was a teacher Sandy Hook Elementary.

At this time, the Sandy Hook Police have not commented on Nancy Lanza’s possible involvement in the school, if any.
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« Reply #37 on: December 15, 2012, 11:09:08 pm »

i'm hoping to get the real truth about this tragedy, what the motivations were for this killer because it seems to me that some things are hard to believe. And they will use this event to bring in tougher gun controls, that is possible.
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« Reply #38 on: December 16, 2012, 08:28:15 am »

i'm hoping to get the real truth about this tragedy, what the motivations were for this killer because it seems to me that some things are hard to believe. And they will use this event to bring in tougher gun controls, that is possible.

Honestly, I haven't been keeping up too much with this b/c there's so much CONFUSION coming out. One minute it's this way, the other minute it's that way, etc, etc.

But I'll say this again, there's NO WAY this shooter had autism, b/c while autism people have angry and violent tendencies, their angry and violent tendencies go NO FURTHER than throwing things around and getting physical. Otherwise, autism people are SCARED of LOUD NOISES, which would pretty much rule them out in terms of getting near a gun with a 10 foot pole. So why would this guy have no problems but shoot a gun with many rounds of ammunition?
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« Reply #39 on: December 16, 2012, 07:57:53 pm »

Did paranoid, gun-crazed mother trigger son's school killing spree? Friends say she believed world was on edge of collapse Angry

9/16/12

 Nancy Lanza portrayed as 'survivalist' who stockpiled food, water and guns
 She was shot four times in the head, possibly as she slept, by her son
 Collection of guns included handguns, assault rifle and two hunting rifles
 Son Adam was reclusive, spending most of his time in adjoining bedrooms
 Fiercely protective mother insisted he was never left on his own
 Fellow school pupils described him as very bright, a genius, but painfully shy
 Moved to Sandy Hook in around 1998 but Mrs Lanza and husband divorced


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2249185/Connecticut-school-shooting-Did-paranoid-gun-crazed-mother-trigger-Adam-Lanzas-school-killing-spree-Friends-say-believed-world-edge-collapse.html#ixzz2FGoHgUcn
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« Reply #40 on: December 16, 2012, 10:48:31 pm »

http://www.tmz.com/2012/12/16/ct-shooter-adam-lanza-mother-gun-obsession-gun-range/
CT SHOOTER ADAM LANZA Learned How to Fire Guns... From His Mom
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Mass murderer Adam Lanza learned everything he knew about firearms ... from his mother.

Adam's mom, Nancy Lanza -- who was Adam's first victim -- was an avid gun collector who reportedly bragged to friends and neighbors about her weapons and took her son to several firing ranges to teach him how to shoot ... in the months leading up to his deadly assault.

One of Nancy's neighbors, Dan Holmes, told the NY Post ... Nancy was a gun enthusiast ... an avid collector ... often taking her kids to the gun range, infusing them with her obsession with firearms.

Adam used several different guns when he opened fire on Sandy Hook Elementary school earlier this week ... all of which were registered to his mother.

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« Reply #41 on: December 16, 2012, 10:53:43 pm »

http://www.salon.com/2012/12/17/nancy_lanza_was_a_prepper/

Nancy Lanza was a “prepper”

Adam Lanza's mother reportedly belonged to a survivalist movement and feared she was "losing" her son

The Telegraph reports that Nancy Lanza was a “prepper” a part of the survivalist movement that we’re sure to hear more about in coming days. According to the paper:

Nancy Lanza, whose gun collection was raided by her son Adam for Friday’s massacre at Sandy Hook school, was part of the “prepper” movement, which urges readiness for social chaos by hoarding supplies and training with weapons.

“She prepared for the worst,” her sister-in-law Marsha Lanza told reporters. “Last time we visited her in person, we talked about prepping – are you ready for what could happen down the line, when the economy collapses?”

It also emerged that Mrs Lanza had spoken of her fears less than a week before the attack that she was “losing” her son. “She said it was getting worse. She was having trouble reaching him,” said a friend of Mrs Lanza who did not want to be named.

Alex Halperin is news editor at Salon. You can follow him on Twitter @alexhalperin.
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« Reply #42 on: December 17, 2012, 04:02:53 am »

Society Is Crumbling Right In Front Of Our Eyes And Banning Guns Won't Help

What in the world is happening to America?  I have written many articles about how society is crumbling right in front of our eyes, but now it is getting to the point where people are going to be afraid to go to school or go shopping at the mall.  Just consider what has happened over the past week.  Adam Lanza savagely murdered 20 children and 6 adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut.  42-year-old Marcus Gurrola threatened to shoot innocent shoppers and fired off more than 50 rounds in the parking lot of Fashion Island Mall in Newport Beach, California.  After police apprehended him, he told them that he "was unhappy with life".  Earlier in the week, a crazy man wearing a hockey mask and armed with a semi-automatic rifle opened fire on the second floor of a mall in Happy Valley, Oregon.  He killed two people and injured a third.  On Saturday morning, a lone gunman walked into a hospital in Alabama and opened fire.  He killed one police officer and two hospital employees before being gunned down by another police officer.  So have we now reached the point where every school, every mall and every hospital is going to need armed security?  How will society function efficiently if everyone is constantly worried about mass murderers?

In response to the horrible tragedy in Connecticut, many in the mainstream media are suggesting that much stricter gun laws are the obvious solution.

After all, if we get rid of all the guns these crazy people won't be able to commit these kinds of crimes, right?

Unfortunately, that is not how it works.  The criminals don't obey gun control laws.  Banning guns will just take them out of the hands of law-abiding American citizens that just want to protect their own families.

Adam Lanza didn't let the strict gun control laws up in Connecticut stop him from what he wanted to do.  Connecticut already has some of the strictest gun laws in the nation, and Adam Lanza broke at least three of them.

However, if there had been some armed security officers or some armed teachers at that school, they may have had a chance to protect those dear little children from being brutally gunned down.

If gun control was really the solution to our problems, then cities that have implemented strict gun control laws should be some of the safest in the entire country.

But sadly, just the opposite is true.

For example, Chicago has very strict gun laws.  But 10 people were shot in the city of Chicago on Friday alone.  Chicago is now considered to be "the deadliest global city", and the murder rate in Chicago is about 25 percent higher than it was last year.

So has gun control turned Chicago into a utopia?

Of course not.

And it won't solve our problems on a national level either.

You can find more statistics about the futility of gun control right here.

Well, how would things be if we did just the opposite and everyone had a gun?

Would gun crime go through the roof?

That is what liberals were warning of when the city of Kennesaw, Georgia passed a law requiring every home to have a gun.  But instead of disaster, the results turned out to be very impressive...

    In March 1982, 25 years ago, the small town of Kennesaw – responding to a handgun ban in Morton Grove, Ill. – unanimously passed an ordinance requiring each head of household to own and maintain a gun. Since then, despite dire predictions of “Wild West” showdowns and increased violence and accidents, not a single resident has been involved in a fatal shooting – as a victim, attacker or defender.

    The crime rate initially plummeted for several years after the passage of the ordinance, with the 2005 per capita crime rate actually significantly lower than it was in 1981, the year before passage of the law.

    Prior to enactment of the law, Kennesaw had a population of just 5,242 but a crime rate significantly higher (4,332 per 100,000) than the national average (3,899 per 100,000). The latest statistics available – for the year 2005 – show the rate at 2,027 per 100,000. Meanwhile, the population has skyrocketed to 28,189.

When criminals know that everyone has guns, they are much less likely to try something.  And often armed citizens are able to prevent potential mass murderers from doing more damage.  You can find several examples of this right here.

But of course most of our politicians are not interested in common sense.  Instead, they are obsessed with the idea that gun control will make our country "safe" again.

Senator Diane Feinstein says that she is ready to introduce a strict gun control bill in January that will "ban the sale, the transfer, the importation and the possession" of many types of firearms.

Will such a law keep the criminals from getting guns?

No way.  Just look at what is happening with the cartels down in Mexico.  The criminals are always able to get guns.

If our "leaders" were really interested in stopping these mass murders, they would take a look at the role that mind-altering pharmaceutical drugs play in these incidents.  If you look at the mass murders that have occurred over the past several decades, in the vast majority of them the murderer had been using mind-altering pharmaceutical drugs...

    The Institute for Safe Medication Practices (ISMP) has raised concerns about severe acts of violence as side effects of anti-psychotic and antidepressant drugs not only on individuals but on society as well.

    Just a month ago PRWeb described drug induced violence as "medicine's best kept secret."

    And the Citizens Commission on Human Rights International (CCHRI) is calling for a federal investigation on its web page which links no less than 14 mass killings to the use of psychiatric drugs such as Prozac and Paxil.

And guess what?

According to the Washington Post, one neighbor says that Adam Lanza was "on medication".

But will our politicians ever consider a law against such drugs?

Of course not.  The big corporations that produce those drugs give mountains of money to the campaign funds of our politicians.

So the focus of the debate will remain on guns.

And a lot of liberals would have us believe that our society could be transformed into some type of "utopia" if we could just get rid of all the guns.

Unfortunately, that is simply not true.  Our society is in an advanced state of moral decay, and this moral decay is manifesting in our society in thousands of different ways.  The corruption runs from the highest levels of society all the way down to the lowest.

For those that believe that gun control would somehow "fix America", I have some questions for you...

Down in Texas, one set of parents kept their 10-year-old son locked in a bedroom and only fed him bread and water for months.  Eventually he died of starvation and they dumped his body in a creek.

Would banning guns have kept that from happening?

A pastor in north Texas was recently assaulted by an enraged man who beat him to death with an electric guitar.

Would banning guns have kept that from happening?

Police up in New Jersey say that a man kept his girlfriend padlocked in a bedroom for most of the last 10 years.

Would banning guns have kept that from happening?

A 31-year-old man up in Canada was found guilty of raping an 8-year-old girl, breaking 16 of her bones and smashing her in the face with a hammer.

Would banning guns have kept that from happening?

According to the FBI, a New York City police officer is being accused of “planning the kidnap, ****, torture and cannibilization of a number of women”.

Would banning guns have kept that from happening?

A Secret Service officer that had been assigned to protect Joe Biden’s residence has been charged with sexually assaulting a 14-year-old girl.

Would banning guns have kept that from happening?

Over in Texas, a very sick 29-year-old man stabbed his girlfriend to death and then burned his one-year-old baby alive because she had gone to court and filed for child support.

Would banning guns have kept that from happening?

Over in Utah, a 21-year-old man is accused of stabbing his grandmother 111 times and then removing her organs with a knife.

Would banning guns have kept that from happening?

There are more than 3 million reports of child abuse in the United States every single year.

Would banning guns keep that from happening?

An average of five children die as a result of child abuse in the United States every single day.

Would banning guns keep that from happening?

The United States has the highest child abuse death rate on the entire globe.

Would banning guns keep that from happening?

It is estimated that 500,000 Americans that will be born this year will be sexually abused before they turn 18.

Would banning guns keep that from happening?

In the United States today, it is estimated that one out of every four girls is sexually abused before they become adults.

Would banning guns keep that from happening?

If there was a way to take all of the guns away from all of the criminals, I would be all in favor of it.  Unfortunately, no government on the planet has been able to do that.

Instead, we have seen that criminals thrive whenever gun bans are instituted and the guns are taken away from law-abiding citizens.

But the bottom line is that our social decay will not be solved either by more guns or less guns.

Our social decay is the result of decades of bad decisions.  We have pushed morality out of our schools, out of government and out of almost every aspect of public life.  Now we are experiencing the bitter fruit of those decisions.

And this is not a problem that our government is going to be able to fix.  Violent crime increased by 18 percent in 2011, and this is just the beginning.

As our economy gets even worse, the rot and decay that have been eating away the foundations of America are going to become even more evident.  The number of Americans living in poverty grows with each passing day, and millions upon millions of people are becoming very desperate.

Desperate people do desperate things, and crime, rioting and looting are going to become commonplace in the United States in the years ahead.

So you can pretend that the government is going to be able to keep our society from crumbling all you want, but that is not going to help you when a gang of desperate criminals has invaded your home and is attacking your family.

We definitely should mourn for the victims in Connecticut.  It was a horrible national tragedy.

But this is just the beginning.  The fabric of our society is coming apart at the seams.  The feeling of safety and security that we all used to take for granted has been shattered, and the streets of America are going to steadily become much more dangerous.

I hope that you are ready.

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yes... the War on Preppers. Cant have those people who can survive WITH OUT the aid of the government out running around.
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More Than 2000 Children Are Murdered In The United States Every Single Day

Mass murderer Adam Lanza is yet another example of how society is collapsing right in front of our eyes.  When I was young, I never imagined that someone would come into my school and try to kill me.  But now any school that does not have armed security is being incredibly foolish.  The mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut on Friday was the second worst school shooting in modern American history.  All of the children that Adam Lanza savagely murdered were either 6 or 7 years old.  It was such a horrific crime that even the mainstream media is using words that they would not normally use such as “evil”, “wicked” and “demonic”.  There does not seem to be any penalty that would be too harsh for what Adam Lanza did.  In this type of case, the death penalty seems way too kind.  Unfortunately, Adam Lanza is dead so he will never have his day in court.  Instead, the rest of us are left trying to figure out why this happened and what to do about it.  Sadly, there will inevitably be more Adam Lanzas.  We live in a blood-soaked society that loves and glorifies violence.  And I am not just talking about video games and movies.  The horrible truth is that more than 2000 children are murdered in the United States every single day in our abortion clinics, and most of our “leaders” actually approve of this practice.  When you add in all other forms of abortion such as “morning after pills”, the number is closer to 3000 children a day.  Overall, more than 50 million babies have been killed in America since Roe v. Wade was decided in 1973.  We have pushed God and morality out of our schools and out of public life, and instead we have taught our young people that the slaughter of millions of babies is no big deal.  Is it any wonder that they are so screwed up?  We have raised up a generation of young people without teaching them moral values, and now we are experiencing the bitter fruit of our foolishness.

But instead of focusing on what is really causing all of this, the mainstream media seems absolutely obsessed with the idea that more gun control laws would solve our problems.

Oh really?

Adam Lanza broke at least three Connecticut gun control laws.  Would adding a bunch more really make a difference?

Just take a look at the city of Chicago.

Chicago has some of the strictest gun laws in the entire nation.  The intent was to greatly reduce gun crime in the city.  But instead, Chicago is now being called “the deadliest global city“, and the murder rate is running about 25 percent higher than last year.

Well, what about in other areas of the world?

Down in Australia, gun murders rose by about 19 percent and armed robberies rose by about 69 percent after a gun ban was instituted.

Ouch.

The UK has some of the strictest gun laws on the planet.  So how has that worked out?  Well, gun crime in England and Wales rose by 89 percent over the course of a decade…

    The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year  -  a rise of 89 per cent.

Banning guns is not going to solve anything.  The criminals are always going to be able to get guns.  But banning guns will take them away from hard working American citizens that just want to have a chance to defend themselves as our society crumbles all around us.

Are you ready for some more statistics?  The following is from an article by my friend J. Vanne in which he detailed how guns have helped to reduce crime in many areas of the United States…

    As a matter of fact, Gun Owners of America, cites statistics indicating guns are used 2.5 million times a year in self-defense, or around 80 times a day (other statistics estimate this number could range as low as 1.5 million, but either number is a lot!). This includes 200,000 women a year using guns to defend themselves against sexual abuse. As a matter of fact, as of 2008, armed citizens killed more violent bad guys than the police (1,527 vs. 606).

    It appears George Washington had it right, when he said “The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference – they deserve a place of honor with all that is good.”

    What about concealed carry?

    Statistics from the recent past show states that passed concealed carry reduced their murder rate by 8.5%, rapes by 5% and robbery by 3%. Florida, which passed concealed carry in 1987, saw its higher than average homicide rate drop 52% during the following 15 years after passage, to below the national average.

But if you listen to the mainstream media, the only solution to this crisis is more gun control laws.

As if psychos that somehow are not able to obtain a gun cannot find other ways to attack people.  For example, just the other day a very sick Chinese man with a knife attacked 22 children at a school in China.

So should we ban all knives too?

One thing that the mainstream media is not talking about is the role that pharmaceutical drugs have played in almost every single mass murder in the United States in recent years.  The following is from a recent Natural News article…

    In mass shootings involving guns and mind-altering medications, politicians immediately seek to blame guns but never the medication. Nearly every mass shooting that has taken place in America over the last two decades has a link to psychiatric medication, and it appears today’s tragic event is headed in the same direction.

    According to ABC News, Adam Lanza, the alleged shooter, has been labeled as having “mental illness” and a “personality disorder.” These are precisely the words typically heard in a person who is being “treated” with mind-altering psychiatric drugs.

    One of the most common side effects of psychiatric drugs is violent outbursts and thoughts of suicide.

And guess what?

According to the Washington Post, one neighbor is telling the press that Adam Lanza was “on medication”.

Is anyone surprised?

But of course the mainstream media will never call for a ban on mind-altering pharmaceutical drugs.  The companies that produce those drugs spend billions of dollars to advertise on their networks.

And as horrific as this crisis was, let us not be blind to what is happening all around us every day.

Adam Lanza murdered 20 children in cold blood and that was a crime for which there are not words strong enough to denounce it.

However, more than 100 times as many children are killed in the abortion clinics of America every single day, and most of our politicians stand up and publicly defend the slaughter of those innocents.

We have covered America with the blood of our own children, and yet hardly anyone speaks up about this anymore.

In a previous article about abortion, I listed 19 facts about the mass murder that is happening in abortion clinics all across the United States…

#1 There have been more than 53 million abortions performed in the United States since Roe v. Wade was decided back in 1973.

#2 When you total up all forms of abortion, including those caused by the abortion drug RU 486, the grand total comes to more than a million abortions performed in the United States every single year.

#3 The number of American babies killed by abortion each year is roughly equal to the number of U.S. military deaths that have occurred in all of the wars that the United States has ever been involved in combined.

#4 Approximately 3,000 Americans lost their lives as a result of the destruction of the World Trade Center towers on 9/11.  Every single day, more than 3,000 American babies are killed by abortion.

#5 It has been reported that a staggering 41 percent of all New York City pregnancies end in abortion.

#6 According to Pastor Clenard Childress, approximately 52 percent of all African-American pregnancies now end in abortion.

#7 One very shocking study found that 86 percent of all abortions are done for the sake of convenience.

#8 According to the Guttmacher Institute, the average cost of a first trimester abortion at the ten week mark is $451.

#9 The average cost of a vaginal birth with no complications in the United States is now over $9,000.

#10 A Department of Homeland Security report that was released in January 2012 says that if you are “anti-abortion”, you are a potential terrorist.  Unfortunately, there have also been other government reports that have also identified “anti-abortion” protesters as potential threats.

#11 A while back one Philadelphia abortionist was charged with killing seven babies that were born alive, but witnesses claim that he actually slaughtered hundreds “of living, breathing newborn children by severing their spinal cords or slitting their necks.”

#12 Some abortion clinics have been caught selling aborted baby parts to medical researchers.

#13 Planned Parenthood Founder Margaret Sanger once said the following….

    “The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it.”

#14 In a 1922 book entitled “Woman, Morality, and Birth Control”, Planned Parenthood Founder Margaret Sanger wrote the following….

    “Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race.”

#15 Planned Parenthood performs more than 300,000 abortions every single year.

#16 Planned Parenthood specifically targets the poor.  A staggering 72 percent of Planned Parenthood’s “customers” have incomes that are either equal to or beneath 150 percent of the federal poverty level.

#17 There are 30 Planned Parenthood executives that make more than $200,000 a year.  A few of them make more than $300,000 a year.

#18 Planned Parenthood received more than 487 million dollars from the federal government during 2010.

#19 The following is one description of the five steps of a partial birth abortion….

    1) Guided by ultrasound, the abortionist grabs the baby’s legs with forceps.

    2) The baby’s leg is pulled out into the birth canal.

    3) The abortionist delivers the baby’s entire body, except for the head.

    4) The abortionist jams scissors into the baby’s skull. The scissors are then opened to enlarge the skull.

    5) The scissors are removed and a suction catheter is inserted. The child’s brains are sucked out, causing the skull to collapse. The dead baby is then removed.

So yes, we should deeply mourn for the 20 dear children that were ruthlessly gunned down in Connecticut.

But let us also deeply mourn for the more than 50,000,000 children that have been purposely slaughtered in this country since 1973.

There is no way that America will survive if we continue to murder our own children like this.

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« Reply #45 on: December 17, 2012, 04:10:00 am »

Sunday, December 16, 2012 at 7:47PM
Today's Show:  THE CONNECTICUT TRAGEDY

Chris discusses the terrible shooting at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut and the impact, socially and politically in the wake of this horrible crime. Are left wing pundits and politicians using the event to attack the Second Amendment? Would more gun control have prevented the killings? A similar tragedy happened in England in 1996, and as a result, the UK put a ban on hand guns -- what has been the result? Have firearms crimes diminished? Or gone through the roof?

http://www.noiseofthunder.com/storage/NOTR_CONNECTICUT.TRAGEDY_12.17.12.mp3


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End Time Current Events: 12-16-12
 
Table of Contents:
 » Newtown Conn. school shooting story already being changed by the media to eliminate eyewitness reports of a second shooter
 » To stop school shootings we should let the criminals have all the guns; argue gun control advocates
 » ABC, NY Times reporters go full-on vulture tweeting the friends and family of the Connecticut massacre targets
 » Gun control? We need medication control! Newton elementary school shooter Adam Lanza likely on meds; labeled as having ‘personality disorder’
 » Lanza most likely had a form of Autism: Let’s look at the facts regarding Autism as Autism was virtually unknown before the modern day advent of vaccinations 
 » See Scott Johnson’s Teaching: Pharmakeia: Sorcery, Pharmaceuticals & the Roots of Modern Day Drug Industry
 » Gun control petition to White House gets large and immediate support online
 » The Documented Human “Death Toll” Cost of “Gun Control”
 » Crime & Murder Rates Plummet After a Law Required Firearms for Residents in Kennesaw, GA
 » Dr. Johnson’s recommendations for natural alternatives to mind altering meds
 » Warning Gun Control Advocates are at a Fever Pitch to Ban Firearms

Audio: http://www.contendingfortruth.com/wp-content/uploads/342-12-16-12-DS300002-C.mp3

PDF: http://www.contendingfortruth.com/wp-content/uploads/End-Time-Current-Events-12-16-12.pdf
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Sunday, December 16, 2012 at 7:47PM
Today's Show:  THE CONNECTICUT TRAGEDY

Chris discusses the terrible shooting at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut and the impact, socially and politically in the wake of this horrible crime. Are left wing pundits and politicians using the event to attack the Second Amendment? Would more gun control have prevented the killings? A similar tragedy happened in England in 1996, and as a result, the UK put a ban on hand guns -- what has been the result? Have firearms crimes diminished? Or gone through the roof?

http://www.noiseofthunder.com/storage/NOTR_CONNECTICUT.TRAGEDY_12.17.12.mp3



Yeah - my local paper(Dallas Morning News) almost always has Dallas Cowboys coverage(during the NFL season, that is) on the front page every Monday morning(win or lose). Nope, not today, but instead just a mere ticker headline at the very top of the page(despite their thrilling overtime win over the Steelers).

Instead, the Connecticut shooting made front page again today, where one of the headlines was pushing gun control(and the DMN leans "conservative", FWIW).

Yeah, the NWO minions are pulling every stop to push gun control now, especially after Obama's "re-election".
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« Reply #48 on: December 17, 2012, 10:36:38 am »

Connecticut school district in lockdown following report of suspicious person in area

12/17/12

DEVELOPING: Schools in Ridgefield, Conn., are on lockdown following reports of a "suspicious person" possibly armed with a rifle.
 
Ridgefield is approximately 19 miles from Newtown, where 20 children and six adults were killed Friday when a gunman opened fire at Sandy Hook elementary school.
 
Ridgefield Superintendent Deborah Low released a statement Monday saying that schools in the district "have been put into lockdown."
 
"Due to a report of a possibly suspicious person in the Branchville Train Station area, all schools have been put into lockdown. Branchville Elementary school buses have been diverted to East Ridge Middle School and BES students are in the auditorium," Low said.


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MSNBC’s Ed Schultz Talks Gun ‘Confiscation’

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Liberals always say they don’t want to take away guns. But give them an awful tragedy like the Newtown, Conn. shooting and they get bolder and more honest. MSNBC host Ed Schultz showed a rare bout of such honesty during a brief Twitter exchange Saturday. Schultz asked “Why should anyone own an assault rifle ?” and followed it up by saying “it's the confiscation of these types of weapons that counts and will have an impact.”

“The Ed Show” host wasn’t done his attack on gun rights. “The NRA needs to state the case why assault weapons are needed by anyone,” he claimed. And after that, he told one poster that “a Glock pistol qualifies as an assault weapon.” That last bit is surely a surprise to both gun owners and Congress which didn’t include handguns in its previous assault weapons ban.

Ultimately, Schultz talked of changing the Constitution to one person on Twitter. “We are the Constitution and we as a people can change whatever we want. Get ready Dude !” he wrote.

Schultz has a murky history with guns. In early December, he said the NFL should tell players not to have guns: “I don't think it's out of the realm that the NFL should be asking players or demanding or making su-, don't own firearms. Just, don't, all that is is trouble. All that is is trouble.”

However, he seemed unmoved when his producer James “Holmy” Holm talked about putting a gun to CEOs to force them to spend back in 2011. “The president is going to speak with business leaders that are sitting on $1.9 trillion dollars -- $1.9 trillion dollars. Maybe what we should do is put a gun to their head and just say, give us that $1.9 trillion dollars, you don't need to read anything, just hand it to us!” he told listeners to Schultz’s radio program.

Here is the whole recent exchange on Twitter.

Ed Schultz ‏@WeGotEd @gt500cws who's facts ? I have a fact for you. We are the Constitution and we as a people can change whatever we want. Get ready Dude !

Ed Schultz ‏@WeGotEd @gt500cws a Glock pistol qualifies as an assault weapon.

Ed Schultz ‏@WeGotEd The NRA needs to state the case why assault weapons are needed by anyone.

Ed Schultz ‏@WeGotEd @gt500cws a Glock pistol qualifies as an assault weapon.

Ed Schultz ‏@WeGotEd Write all the feel good laws you want, it's the confiscation of these types of weapons that counts and will have an impact.

Ed Schultz ‏@WeGotEd Why should anyone own an assault rifle ? We need to be realistic about the 2nd amendment..society has changed, views have changed.


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CNN's Lemon Goes on Anti-Gun Tirade, Calls for Assault Weapons Ban

CNN anchor Don Lemon went on an anti-gun rant on Monday morning and called for an assault weapons ban. Lemon is only the latest CNN anchor to abandon journalistic standards and push for gun control.

"We need to get guns and bullets and automatic weapons off the streets. They should only be available to police officers and to hunt al-Qaeda and the Taliban and not hunt elementary school children," an emotional Lemon appealed. [Video below the break. Audio here.]


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http://www.infowars.com/americans-turn-in-guns-after-school-massacre/

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Law-abiding Americans across the country are turning in their guns as part of police buyback programs in response to the school massacre in Connecticut – a shocking illustration of how citizens are choosing to disarm themselves without the need for gun control legislation.

Citizens in Brooklyn, San Francisco, Oakland, Evanston, Ill, and Baltimore all lined up around the block to sell their guns back to police as a gesture in response to the Sandy Hook shooting on Friday.

Mt. Ollie Baptist Church in Brownsville and St. Peters Lutheran Church in Cypress Hills, Brooklyn opened their doors for people to anonymously turn in their guns on Saturday, with the program netting 134 weapons, most of which were revolvers and pistols.

In another buyback event at Prince George’s County, 150 guns were handed in for cash, while a further 160 were exchanged for gift cards at St. Mark’s United Methodist Church in Laurel, MD.

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http://news.yahoo.com/nra-goes-silent-connecticut-school-shooting-080658189.html

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Where is the NRA?

The nation's largest gun-rights organization — typically outspoken about its positions even after shooting deaths — has gone all but silent since last week's rampage at a Newtown, Conn., elementary school that left 26 people dead, including 20 children.

Its Facebook page has disappeared. It has posted no tweets. It makes no mention of the shooting on its website. None of its leaders hit the media circuit Sunday to promote its support of the Second Amendment right to bear arms as the nation mourns the latest shooting victims and opens a new debate over gun restrictions. On Monday, the NRA offered no rebuttal as 300 anti-gun protesters marched to its Capitol Hill office.

After previous mass shootings — such as in Oregon and Wisconsin — the group was quick to both send its condolences and defend gun owners' constitutional rights, popular among millions of Americans. There's no indication that the National Rifle Association's silence this time is a signal that a change in its ardent opposition to gun restrictions is imminent. Nor has there been any explanation for its absence from the debate thus far.

The NRA, which claims 4.3 million members and is based in Northern Virginia, did not return telephone messages Monday seeking comment.

Its deep-pocketed efforts to oppose gun control laws have proven resilient. Firearms are in a third or more of U.S. households and suspicion runs deep of an overbearing government whenever it proposes expanding federal authority. The argument of gun-rights advocates that firearm ownership is a bedrock freedom as well as a necessary option for self-defense has proved persuasive enough to dampen political enthusiasm for substantial change.

Seldom has the NRA gone so long after a fatal shooting without a public presence. It resumed tweeting just one day after a gunman killed two people and then himself at an Oregon shopping mall last Tuesday, and one day after six people were fatally shot at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin in August.

The Connecticut shootings occurred three days after the incident in Oregon.

"The NRA's probably doing a good thing by laying low," said Hogan Gidley, a Republican strategist and gun owner who was a top aide to Rick Santorum's presidential bid. "Often after these tragedies, so many look to lay blame on someone, and the NRA is an easy whipping boy for this."

Indeed, since the Connecticut shootings, the NRA has been taunted and criticized at length, vitriol that may have prompted the shuttering of its Facebook page just a day after the association boasted about reaching 1.7 million supporters on the social media network.

Twitter users have been relentless, protesting the organization with hashtags like NoWayNRA.

The NRA has not responded to them. Its last tweets, sent Friday, offered a chance to win an auto flashlight.

Offline, some 300 protesters gathered outside the NRA's lobbying headquarters on Capitol Hill on Monday chanting, "Shame on the NRA" and waving signs declaring "Kill the 2nd Amendment, Not Children" and "Protect Children, Not Guns."

"I had to be here," said Gayle Fleming, 65, a real estate agent from Arlington, Va., saying she was attending her first anti-gun rally. "These were 20 babies. I will be at every rally, will sign every letter, call every congressman going forward."

Retired attorney Kathleen Buffon of Chevy Chase, Md., reflected on earlier mass shootings, saying: "All of the other ones, they've been terrible. This is the last straw. These were children."

"The NRA has had a stranglehold on Congress," she added as she marched toward the NRA's unmarked office. "It's time to call them out."

The group's reach on Capitol Hill is wide as it wields its deep pockets to defeat lawmakers, many of them Democrats, who push for restrictions on gun ownership.

The NRA outspent its chief opponent by a 73-1 margin to lobby the outgoing Congress, according to the nonpartisan Sunlight Foundation, which tracks such spending. It spent more than 4,000 times its biggest opponents during the 2012 election.

In all, the group spent at least $24 million this election cycle — $16.8 million through its political action committee and nearly $7.5 million through its affiliated Institute for Legislative Action. Its chief foil, the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, spent just $5,816.

On direct lobbying, the NRA also was mismatched. Through July 1, the NRA spent $4.4 million to lobby Congress to the Brady Campaign's $60,000.
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« Reply #53 on: December 18, 2012, 03:33:08 pm »

Honestly, don't know what to make of this. No, not saying this whole thing was staged like a Broadway Show, but nonetheless this news clip looks very bizarre... Undecided

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Not much there really. Could be this, could be that.

I do know that many people tend to smile when they are nervous, but the smile is no indication that they find anything humorous. His apparent preparation to speak too could be just nerves. I'd like to see how many cameras were in his face when he spoke.

One might make a case that it looked like he was "getting into character". I don't see enough from the clip to go that far.
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« Reply #55 on: December 18, 2012, 05:15:13 pm »

Apparently, the name Sandy has a meaning(this web site posted isn't the only web site source saying this)...

http://www.babynology.com/meaning-sandy-f1.html

Pet form, originally Scottish, of the Greek name Alexander. Meaning is "defender of mankind".

Sandy Hook(elementary), Hurricane Sandy, Sandy Island, Sandy Oregon... Huh
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http://news.yahoo.com/congressional-backing-grows-gun-control-debate-220341844--politics.html

Congressional backing grows for gun control debate

WASHINGTON (AP) — Congressional gun rights supporters showed an increased willingness Tuesday to consider new legislation to control firearms in the aftermath of the Connecticut school shootings — provided it also addresses mental health issues and the impact of violent video games.
 
A former co-chairman of the Congressional Sportsmen's Caucus, Democratic Rep. Mike Thompson, D-Calif., and 10-term House Republican Jack Kingston — a Georgia lawmaker elected with strong National Rifle Association backing — were the latest to join the call to consider gun control as part of a comprehensive, anti-violence effort next year.
 
"Put guns on the table, also put video games on the table, put mental health on the table," Kingston said.
 
But he added that nothing should be done immediately, saying, "There is a time for mourning and a time to sort it out. I look forward to sorting it out and getting past the grief stage."
 
With the nation's nerves still raw over the murders of 20 elementary school children and six teachers, White House, spokesman Jay Carney said President Barack Obama was "actively supportive" of a plan by Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., to introduce legislation to reinstate an assault weapons ban. While Obama has long supported a ban, he exerted little effort to get it passed during his first term.
 
Meanwhile, the National Rifle Association, silent since the shootings, said in a statement that it "is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again." There was no indication what that might entail. The group, the best-known defender of gun rights in America, scheduled a news conference for Friday.
 
On Capitol Hill, Feinstein is likely to become chairman next year of the Senate Judiciary Committee, which may get the first crack at considering firearms legislation.
 
Carney said the president also would support legislation that closes a gun show "loophole," which allows people to buy guns from private dealers without a background check. And he says Obama would be "interested in looking at" legislation to restrict high capacity ammunition clips.
 
The spokesman said Obama was heartened by growing support on Capitol Hill for a national discussion on gun violence, particularly from seemingly unlikely lawmakers. The president spoke on the phone Tuesday with West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin, a conservative Democrat and avid hunter, who said after the Connecticut shootings that "everything should be on the table" in those discussions.
 
Carney sidestepped questions about whether Obama regrets not having taken stronger gun control during his first term, but he said the president does think more needs to be done.
 
"We as a nation — and he, as a member and leader of the nation — need to do more," he said.
 
Late Wednesday, the National Rifle Association, the most potent pro-gun group and one that keeps score of lawmakers' votes, explained its silence until now.
 
"The National Rifle Association of America is made up of four million moms and dads, sons and daughters - and we were shocked, saddened and heartbroken by the news of the horrific and senseless murders in Newtown," the NRA statement said.
 
"Out of respect for the families, and as a matter of common decency, we have given time for mourning, prayer and a full investigation of the facts before commenting."
 
Among members of Congress, Thompson, the former Sportsmen's Caucus co-chairman, was named to lead a Democratic task force on gun violence. He's a hunter, a wounded Vietnam veteran and a conservative Democrat.
 
"The only experience I've had with assault weapons was the one that I was trained with when I was in the Army," he said. "I know that this is not a war on guns. Gun owners and hunters across this country have every right to own legitimate guns for legitimate purposes and ... we are not going to take law-abiding citizens 'guns away from them."
 
On Monday, NRA member Manchin, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa — senior Republican on the Judiciary Committee — said it's time for a debate that would include gun control. Reid previously had taken pro-gun positions for years.
 
Not all Republicans were willing to go as far as Grassley or Kingston, but they didn't rule out tackling gun control.
 
Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell told reporters, "The entire Congress is united in condemning the violence in Newtown and on the need to enforce our laws. As we continue to learn the facts, Congress will examine whether there is an appropriate and constitutional response that would better protect our citizens."
 
McConnell added that Reid controls the Senate schedule.
 
At a regular House Republican closed-door meeting Tuesday Rep. Tim Murphy of Pennsylvania, a psychologist, led a discussion on mental illness — which he described as the primary cause of mass shootings.
 
Murphy said he told colleagues that mental illness was the common link in similar tragic incidents and "we have to stop pretending it doesn't exist. We need to understand what it is that triggers changes in someone."
 
"I see it as the center of the issue. Get mental illness out of the shadows."
 
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Associated Press writer Julie Pace contributed.
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« Reply #57 on: December 18, 2012, 07:45:58 pm »

I wonder if something like this have angered gun control advocates too? Roll Eyes

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/mark-sanchez-most-recent-football-player-receive-death-222219536--nfl.html

Mark Sanchez is the most recent football player to receive death threats via Twitter


It takes a "special" kind of repugnant punk to throw death threats at athletes via social media, and when such things happen as we all still have recent events heavy on our hearts, it's particularly disgusting. Yet, it seems as if there are "human beings" so infantile and stupid that it will actually occur to them that threatening the lives of athletes based on their negative exploits on the field is a really neat idea.
 
So it was for someone who has the Twitter handle @BraveGrancru, whose account is still somehow up as we publish this post. (Twitter, you might want to look into that). As New York Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez was turning the ball over five times in the Jets' 14-10 loss to the Tennessee Titans on Monday Night Football, the aforementioned moron was tweeting stuff like this:
 

DON'T COME TO PRACTICE WEDNESDAY I PROMISE YOU BULLETS EVERYWHERE .. @mark_sanchez
 

SANCHEZ BETTER HAVE ARMED SECURITY AT PRACTICE !! YOU THINK IMMA SIT HERE AND WATCH THIS BULL**** ?? TUHHH @nyjets
 

I SWARE IF I EVER SEE YOU SON U DEAD IDC YOU ARE THE WORST QB IN THE NFL YOU MEXICAN *****
 

PLEASE GIVE ME SOME TIME ON AIR TO VOICE MY FUTURE KILLING !! I HATE MARK SANCHEZ AND HE MUST GO ! @foxnews

 

"Kill yo self tonight ! Or imma do it for you Wednesday at practice @Mark_Sanchez."
 
This person then published a picture of himself on his account, with the note: TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT YOUR KILLA WEDNESDAY NIGHT NIGHT
 
Given this individual's clear hunger for publicity, we'll skip the step of publishing his picture. NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said that NFL security has followed up with the Jets organization regarding this matter.
 
Sadly, this jerk will get his 15 minutes, According to his Twitter timeline that shouldn't even be up anymore, he's received inquiries from several members of the New York football media. We can only hope that he's making this up.
 
Sanchez isn't the first NFL player to get death threats on Twitter. San Francisco 49ers receiver Kyle Williams received several after he fumbled twio returns in the most recent NFC championship game, and Washington Redskins receiver Josh Morgan was the recipient of similar threats when a penalty called on Morgan was a key factor in Washington's 31-28 September loss to the St. Louis Rams.
 
We'll avoid the soapbox here, except to say that if you actually think this is a reasonable or right idea, there's obviously something very, very wrong with you. and we've seen what happens when such alarms go unnoticed. The NFL needs to step up, work with the appropriate authorities, and make a serious commitment to doing something proactive about this.
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The Antipsychotic Prescribed To Adam Lanza Has A Troubled History All Its Own
Geoffrey Ingersoll|Dec. 18, 2012, 2:36 PM

http://www.businessinsider.com/adam-lanza-taking-antipsychotic-fanapt-2012-12

By now the whole country is fully embroiled in the Gun Control debate, spurred by the grisly murder of 27 people, mostly kids, at the Sandy Hook Elementary school last Friday.
 
Guns might not be the only problem though.
 
New York Magazine wrote a piece about shooter Adam Lanza's supposed "aspergers" syndrome as a "red herring" meant to distract from the real problem (guns, of course, the subject goes without mentioning).
 
Inside the piece though they report Adam Lanza's uncle said the boy was prescribed Fanapt, a controversial anti-psychotic medicine.
 
Fanapt was the subject of a Bloomberg report when it passed regulators, after previously getting the "nonapproval" stamp. Why wasn't it approved, you might ask?
 
There are many reasons, some of which have to do with competing entities in a competitive market.
 
The main cited reason for the rejection was that it caused severe heart problems in enough patients to cause a stir.
 
Maybe more importantly, though, Fanapt is one of a many drugs the FDA pumped out with an ability to exact the opposite desired effect on people: that is, you know, inducing rather than inhibiting psychosis and aggressive behavior.
 
In fact, Fanapt was dropped by its first producer, picked up by another, initially rejected by the FDA, then later picked up and mass produced. The adverse side-effect is said to be "infrequent," but still it exists, and can't be ignored
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The reaction invoked by the drug in some people is reminiscent of the Jeffrey R. MacDonald case, where a Green Beret slaughtered his entire family and then fabricated a story about a marauding troop of "hopped up hippies".
 
MacDonald though, had Eskatrol in his system, a weight-loss amphetamine that's since been banned in part for its side effects of psychotic behavior and aggression.
 
These drugs are not the only ones that can cause the opposite of their desired effect. Several anti-depressant medications are also restricted to adults, for the depression they inspire in kids rather than eliminate.
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http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/****s-stores-suspend-sales-rifles-18005190#.UNDVBWcoFkw
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D!ck's Stores Suspend Sales of Certain Rifles

12/18/12

A sporting goods chain says it's suspending sales of modern rifles nationwide because of the school shooting in Connecticut.
 
D!ck's Sporting Goods also says it's removing all guns from display at its store closest to Newtown, where the massacre took place.

Authorities say a gunman killed 26 people, mostly children, with a military-style rifle at Sandy Hook Elementary School on Friday after killing his mother. He then killed himself.
 
A statement posted on ****'s website expresses sympathy for the victims' families. It says sales of modern sporting rifles will be suspended during "this time of national mourning."
 
****'s declined to answer Associated Press questions about how long the suspension would last or which weapons were being pulled.
 
Pittsburgh-based ****'s Sporting Goods Inc. has more than 500 stores in 44 states.
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