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« Reply #180 on: January 16, 2013, 01:34:55 pm »

Massachusetts governor proposes new gun laws after Newtown

1/16/13

BOSTON (Reuters) - Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick introduced a new series of gun laws on Wednesday that would tighten rules on sales of weapons and ammunition, in the wake of last month's deadly school shooting in neighboring Connecticut.
 
Patrick made the announcement a day after New York state adopted one of the toughest gun-control laws in the United States and as President Barack Obama unveils proposals expected to include a new national assault-weapons ban and strengthened background checks on prospective gun buyers.
 
"In the wake of too many tragedies, I have filed legislation to tackle the problem of gun violence and illegal firearm possession," Patrick, a Democrat, said in a statement.
 
He also proposed an increase in funding to the state's mental health programs aimed at reducing violence.
 
more:
http://news.yahoo.com/massachusetts-governor-makes-pitch-stricter-gun-laws-164401646--finance.html
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« Reply #181 on: January 16, 2013, 03:59:06 pm »

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/newtown-school-superintendent-rejects-nra-proposal-arm-teachers-213455773--politics.html

1/16/13

Newtown school superintendent rejects NRA proposal to arm teachers

Newtown, Conn., Superindent of Schools Janet Robinson on Wednesday blasted critics who suggested armed teachers would have stopped the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.
 
Robinson, speaking on Capitol Hill during a House hearing on gun violence, said she felt remarks made in the wake of the shooting suggesting that Principal Dawn Hochsprung could have killed the shooter had she been armed were "insensitive." Robinson said, "She wasn’t at her desk and no good principle is."
 
Robinson flat-out rejected the NRA proposal to place armed guards in every classroom in America, noting that the weapon used in the Sandy Hook shooting was a semi-automatic. "They didn't have a chance," she said.
 
And she added that she doesn't envision elementary school teachers "packing" weapons while they sit on the carpet with small children—children who she said could be at risk around inexperienced gun owners.
 
Robinson called on Congress to help offer long-term support to her community. "Mental health is a big piece when you have lost your whole sense of safety," she said, noting that Newtown residents want concrete signs of safety including a visible police presence.
 
The hearing, hosted by House Democrats, was designed to gather input on how to combat gun violence. Though Congress was out of session, the event drew more than 60 members from both parties to a standing-room-only venue that required an overflow room.
 
Earlier on Tuesday, President Barack Obama, standing beside Vice President Joe Biden, had unveiled a sweeping plan to combat gun violence.
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« Reply #182 on: January 16, 2013, 09:45:34 pm »

Obama using gun issue to advance health law

1/16/13

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/16/obama-using-gun-issue-advance-health-law/

President Obama is using the national debate over gun violence to push for further action on his health care law, including insisting on the kind of mental health coverage states must provide under their Medicaid programs.
 
Mr. Obama, unveiling his gun proposals Wednesday barely a month after the deadly school shooting in Newtown, Conn., will make it clear that his health law, known as the Affordable Care Act, allows doctors to ask patients whether they have guns in their homes, and will tell them they are able to report any threats of violence they hear to police.
 
The president also will lay out the mental health coverage that all insurers will be required to provide under his signature-achievement law.
 
Those are some of the 23 executive actions Mr. Obama plans to take whether or not Congress acts on his broader recommendations, the White House said.
 
Other moves including offering incentives for schools to hire police; finally naming a new director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF); and requiring federal authorities to trace all guns recovered in their criminal investigations.
 
Mr. Obama also will call on his secretaries of education and health and human services to hold a national dialogue on mental health.
 
The entire list of the actions Mr. Obama is taking comprises:
 
1. Issue a presidential memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system
 
2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.
 
3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.
 
4. Direct the attorney general to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.
 
5. Propose rule-making to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.
 
6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.
 
7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.
 
8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).
 
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« Reply #183 on: January 17, 2013, 03:13:36 am »

Yeah, they are using this to go after the mental health system in general. It's obvious what they are up to. Look for something to pass that says any person with mental health issues of any kind, no guns allowed.

I'm beside myself reading this stuff. It's hard to believe this guy has the nerve to do this. People of today obviously don't even know what tyranny is. They are clueless the water in the pot has already started boiling.
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« Reply #184 on: January 17, 2013, 07:40:20 am »

Moderator's Note: This post is made by BornAgain2, and NOT Mark. Somehow, there was a glitch while BA2 and Mark were editing posts simultaneously in this same thread.

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Gov. Perry: Using Massacre of Children to Advance Agenda 'Disgusts Me'...
http://governor.state.tx.us/news/press-release/18060/

Well, you really disgust me Gov. Perry! 2 years ago, you hung out with a bunch of pseudo-christian heretics that are quietly pushing for a global government. You also have allowed Islam to be taught in TX public schools. To boot, you also have allowed Obamacare money to flow into the state once it was passed 3 years ago.

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« Reply #185 on: January 17, 2013, 09:43:13 am »

http://news.yahoo.com/nra-chief-says-group-accepts-background-checks-122514606--politics.html

1/16/13

NRA chief says group accepts background checks

WASHINGTON (AP) — The head of the National Rifle Association says the organization has no problem with tighter background checks of gun purchasers.
 
But association president David Keene also says too much emphasis has been placed on banning certain firearms.
 
In an interview on "CBS This Morning" Thursday, Keene argues, quote, "The real question that needs to be addressed is not what we do about guns, but what we do to make our schools safer."
 
The NRA has come under close scrutiny in the wake of Newtown, Conn., shootings that killed 20 children and six adults.
 
Keene said officials should focus more attention on a "devastatingly broken mental health system in this country," if they genuinely want to end gun violence.
 
He said the NRA has been "generally supportive" of stronger background checks.
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« Reply #186 on: January 17, 2013, 11:15:52 am »

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c113:H.R.142:

H.R.142 -- Stop Online Ammunition Sales Act of 2013 (Introduced in House - IH)

HR 142 IH

113th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 142

To require face to face purchases of ammunition, to require licensing of ammunition dealers, and to require reporting regarding bulk purchases of ammunition.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

January 3, 2013

Mrs. MCCARTHY of New York introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

A BILL

To require face to face purchases of ammunition, to require licensing of ammunition dealers, and to require reporting regarding bulk purchases of ammunition.

    Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

    This Act may be cited as the `Stop Online Ammunition Sales Act of 2013'.

SEC. 2. LIMITATIONS ON PURCHASES OF AMMUNITION.

    (a) Licensing of Ammunition Dealers-

        (1) IN GENERAL- Section 923(a) of title 18, United States Code, is amended in the matter preceding paragraph (1), in the first sentence, by striking `, or importing or manufacturing' and inserting `or'.

        (2) CONFORMING AMENDMENT- Section 921(a)(11)(A) of title 18, United States Code, is amended by inserting `or ammunition' after `firearms'.

    (b) Requirement for Face to Face Sales of and Licensing To Sell Ammunition- Section 922 of such title is amended--

        (1) in subsection (a)(1)--

            (A) by striking `for any person--' and all that follows through `(A) except' and inserting `(A) for any person except'; and

            (B) by striking subparagraph (B) and inserting the following:

        `(B) for--

            `(i) any person except a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer, to--

                `(I) sell ammunition, except that this subclause shall not apply to a sale of ammunition by a person to a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer; or

                `(II) engage in the business of importing or manufacturing ammunition, or in the course of such business, to ship, transport, or receive any ammunition; or

            `(ii) a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer to transfer ammunition to a person unless the licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer has verified the identity of the transferee by examining a valid identification document (as defined in section 1028(d) of this title) of the transferee containing a photograph of the transferee;'; and

        (2) in subsection (b)(5), by striking `or armor-piercing'.

    (c) Limit on Shipping and Transporting of Ammunition- Section 922(a)(2) of such title is amended--

        (1) in the matter preceding subparagraph (A), by inserting `, or to ship or transport any ammunition,' after `any firearm'; and

        (2) in subparagraph (B), by inserting `or ammunition' after `a firearm'.

    (d) Recordkeeping Regarding Ammunition-

        (1) IN GENERAL- Section 923(g) of such title is amended--

            (A) in paragraph (1)(A)--

                (i) in the first sentence, by inserting `or ammunition' after `other disposition of firearms'; and

                (ii) in the third sentence, by striking `, or any licensed importer or manufacturer of ammunition,' and inserting `, or any licensed importer, manufacturer, or dealer of ammunition,'; and

            (B) in paragraph (3), by adding at the end the following:

    `(C) Each licensee shall prepare a report of multiple sales or other dispositions whenever the licensee sells or otherwise disposes of, at one time or during any 5 consecutive business days, more than 1,000 rounds of ammunition to an unlicensed person. The report shall be prepared on a form specified by the Attorney General and forwarded to the office specified thereon and to the department of State police or State law enforcement agency of the State or local law enforcement agency of the local jurisdiction in which the sale or other disposition took place, not later than the close of business on the day that the multiple sale or other disposition occurs.'.

        (2) CONFORMING AMENDMENT- Section 4182(d) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (relating to exemptions relating to firearms) is amended by inserting `and except as provided in paragraph (1)(A) and (3)(C) of section 923(g) of title 18, United States Code,' before `no person holding a Federal license'.
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« Reply #187 on: January 17, 2013, 11:30:02 am »

Well, gun background checks isn't good either...although the world coming together on the same page has been prophecized in the bible...

2Th 2:10  And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2Th 2:11  And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2Th 2:12  That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.


Rev 13:4  And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
Rev 13:5  And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
Rev 13:6  And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
Rev 13:7  And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
Rev 13:8  And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.


http://news.yahoo.com/universal-background-checks-agreed-other-gun-control-orders-152300467.html

1/17/13

Universal Background Checks? Agreed, but Other Gun-Control Orders Get Mixed Reviews

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« Reply #188 on: January 17, 2013, 11:58:24 am »

FYI, BEWARE of this guy...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Stockman

A Houston Chronicle article reminds that "Stockman’s two years in Congress were marked by weirdness, such as an article in Guns & Ammo magazine that appeared under his byline in which he suggested the then-new Clinton administration raided the Branch Davidian compound in Waco on April 19, 1993, to justify a ban on assault weapons.[citation needed] Stockman said, in reports from the Associated Press in May 1995, that he stood by his article, which was published after the bombing on April 19, 1995 of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.[citation needed] A couple of weeks after he defended the article, he told the Associated Press that he regretted writing it, mostly for its timing.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/01/16/rep-steve-stockman-tones-down-impeachment-threat-against-obama/

Rep. Steve Stockman backs off impeachment threat against Obama

1/16/13

Rep. Steve Stockman (R-TX) said Wednesday he did not think impeaching President Barack Obama would be necessary to protect the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.

“Impeachment is not something to be taken lightly,” he said in a statement. “It is a grave and serious undertaking that should only be initiated in a sober and serious manner. It should be reserved only for most egregious of trespasses by the President.”

“I would consider using Executive Orders to engage in attacks on a constitutionally-protected right and violating his sworn oath of office to be such a trespass. The President cannot issue executive orders depriving the people of full access to an enumerated constitutional right,” Stockman added. “I do not think it will come to that. The President is not an absolute ruler, and his actions and orders can be checked and balanced by the Congress and the courts –- if the Congress is willing.”


Stockman, who began his first term in Congress this year, gained national attention after threatening to impeach the President if he used executive orders to enact new gun regulations. On Tuesday, Stockman said that Obama reminded him of Saddam Hussein.

Obama announced his set of proposals to reduce gun violence on Wednesday. Obama called on Congress to renew the assault weapons ban, restrict the sale of high-capacity magazines and require universal background checks for all gun sales. He also issued 23 executive orders, including appointing a director to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF).

Though Obama’s executive orders appear to all be within the president’s power, Stockman assured his constituents that his staff were reviewing them. He vowed to “fight back with peaceable legislative force” against any executive actions that were unconstitutional.
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« Reply #189 on: January 17, 2013, 12:37:06 pm »

Eph 6:12  For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Eph 6:13  Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
Eph 6:14  Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
Eph 6:15  And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
Eph 6:16  Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
Eph 6:17  And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
Eph 6:18  Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
Eph 6:19  And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,
Eph 6:20  For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.

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« Reply #190 on: January 17, 2013, 01:16:33 pm »

MA gun control bill pending

-   Seven round mag limit – Magazines are now limited to seven rounds. Current 10 round mags are grandfathered. Owners of so-called “pre-ban” Mass mags (magazines with more than 10-rounds which were allowable under existing law) have one year to ditch them

   - One Gun A Month – Sales – Bay Staters may not purchase more than one firearm per month. To exceed that rate is a felony. (2.5 years in prison, $1000 fine)

   - One Gun a Month – Rental/Lease – Citizens may not rent or lease more than one firearm a month (2.5 years in prison $1000 fine)

   - Universal background checks – All firearms sales (including private sales) must be preceded by a NICS criminal background check

   - Gun show registration – Gun shows must report every seller at a show to the Department of Criminal Justice Services and pay a $500 fee to same

   - No Bail for Gun Offenders - If a gun is used in a violent crime the offender may be held without bail until trial

   - NERF-free schools - Airguns, BB guns, paintball guns, air rifles and yes NERF guns may not be possessed on school property ($500 and a year in jail)

   - “Rat Rule” – Any staff or administrators who fail to report a violation of the above law are criminals ($500 fine)

Full text here:
http://www.mass.gov/governor/legislationeexecorder/legislation/an-act-to-strengthen-and-enhance-firearms-laws.html
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« Reply #191 on: January 17, 2013, 01:40:33 pm »

HR 226 Support Firearms Elimination and Reduction for our Streets Act
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c113:H.R.226
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H.R.226

Latest Title: Support Assault Firearms Elimination and Reduction for our Streets Act
Sponsor: Rep DeLauro, Rosa L. [CT-3] (introduced 1/14/2013)      Cosponsors (1)
 
Latest Major Action: 1/14/2013 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Ways and Means.

H.R.226 -- Support Assault Firearms Elimination and Reduction for our Streets Act (Introduced in House - IH)

HR 226 IH

113th CONGRESS
1st Session

H. R. 226
To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to allow a credit against tax for surrendering to authorities certain assault weapons.


IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
January 14, 2013

Ms. DELAURO (for herself and Mr. GRIJALVA) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Ways and Means


A BILL
To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to allow a credit against tax for surrendering to authorities certain assault weapons.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Support Assault Firearms Elimination and Reduction for our Streets Act'.
SEC. 2. ASSAULT WEAPON TURN-IN CREDIT.

(a) In General- Subpart A of part IV of subchapter A of chapter 1 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended by inserting before section 26 the following new section:
`SEC. 25E. ASSAULT WEAPON TURN-IN CREDIT.

`(a) Allowance of Credit-
`(1) IN GENERAL- In the case of an individual who surrenders a specified assault weapon to the United States or a State or local government (or political subdivision thereof) as part of a Federal, State, or local public safety program to reduce the number of privately owned weapons, on the election of the taxpayer there shall be allowed as a credit against the tax imposed by this chapter an amount equal to $2,000.
`(2) YEAR CREDIT ALLOWED- The amount of the credit under paragraph (1) shall be allowed 1/2 for the taxable year during which the assault weapon was so surrendered and 1/2 in the next taxable year.
`(b) Special Rules-
`(1) WEAPON MUST BE LAWFULLY POSSESSED- No credit shall be allowed under subsection (a) with respect to any specified assault weapon not lawfully possessed by the taxpayer at the time the weapon is surrendered.
`(2) SUBSTANTIATION REQUIREMENT- No credit shall be allowed under subsection (a) for the surrender of any specified assault weapon unless the taxpayer substantiates the surrender by a contemporaneous written acknowledgment of the surrender by the Federal, State, or local governmental entity to which the weapon is surrendered.
`(3) DENIAL OF DOUBLE BENEFIT- The taxpayer may elect the application of this section with respect to only 1 weapon, and if such election is made for any taxable year, no deduction shall be allowed under any other provision of this chapter with respect to the surrender or contribution of the specified assault weapon.
`© Assault Weapon- For purposes of this section--
`(1) IN GENERAL- The term `specified assault weapon' means any of the following:
`(A) The following rifles or copies or duplicates thereof:
`(i) AK, AKM, AKS, AK-47, AK-74, ARM, MAK90, Misr, NHM 90, NHM 91, SA 85, SA 93, VEPR,
`(ii) AR-10,
`(iii) AR-15, Bushmaster XM15, Armalite M15, or Olympic Arms PCR,
`(iv) AR70,
`(v) Calico Liberty,
`(vi) Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU,
`(vii) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, or FNC,
`(viii) Hi-Point Carbine,
`(ix) HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, or HK-PSG-1,
`(x) Kel-Tec Sub Rifle,
`(xi) M1 Carbine,
`(xii) Saiga,
`(xiii) SAR-8, SAR-4800,
`(xiv) SKS with detachable magazine,
`(xv) SLG 95,
`(xvi) SLR 95 or 96,
`(xvii) Steyr AUG,
`(xviii) Sturm, Ruger Mini-14,
`(xix) Tavor,
`(xx) Thompson 1927, Thompson M1, or Thompson 1927 Commando, or
`(xxi) Uzi, Galil and Uzi Sporter, Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle (Galatz).
`(B) The following pistols or copies or duplicates thereof:
`(i) Calico M-110,
`(ii) MAC-10, MAC-11, or MPA3,
`(iii) Olympic Arms OA,
`(iv) TEC-9, TEC-DC9, TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10, or
`(v) Uzi.
`© The following shotguns or copies or duplicates thereof:
`(i) Armscor 30 BG,
`(ii) SPAS 12 or LAW 12,
`(iii) Striker 12, or
`(iv) Streetsweeper.
`(D) A semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine, and that has--
`(i) a folding or telescoping stock,
`(ii) a threaded barrel,
`(iii) a pistol grip,
`(iv) a forward grip, or
`(v) a barrel shroud.
`(E)(i) Except as provided in clause (ii), a semiautomatic rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
`(ii) Clause (i) shall not apply to an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.
`(F) A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine, and has--
`(i) a second pistol grip,
`(ii) a threaded barrel,
`(iii) a barrel shroud, or
`(iv) the capacity to accept a detachable magazine at a location outside of the pistol grip.
`(G) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
`(H) A semiautomatic shotgun that has--
`(i) a folding or telescoping stock,
`(ii) a pistol grip,
`(iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine, or
`(iv) a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds.
`(I) A shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
`(J) A frame or receiver that is identical to, or based substantially on the frame or receiver of, a firearm described in any of subparagraphs (A) through (I) or (L).
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« Reply #192 on: January 17, 2013, 05:23:33 pm »

Gun violence "research"? Roll Eyes

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/obama-end-long-fight-over-gun-violence-research-201708897.html?_sr=1

1/17/13

Can Obama end the long fight over gun violence research?

As part of his 23 executive actions addressing gun violence, President Barack Obama announced on Wednesday that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) must begin researching the causes of that violence.
 
“We don't benefit from ignorance,” Obama said at the White House. “We don't benefit from not knowing the science of this epidemic of violence.” The president also asked Congress to infuse the agency with an extra $10 million for this research, which will include studying whether violent video games and other media images have an effect on violence levels.
 
For those who didn't tune in to the congressional battles of the '90s, this announcement might seem odd. Why doesn't the CDC, which is dedicated to helping Americans prevent disease and injury, already study the causes and effects of firearm-related violence?
 
As with most highly charged political battles, it depends on which side you ask.
 
The CDC used to conduct extensive research into gun violence, but comments by CDC officials about the dangers of guns sparked a backlash. In 1994, A CDC official who oversaw the section of the agency that researched gun violence told the Washington Post, "We need to revolutionize the way we look at guns, like what we did with cigarettes. Now it is dirty, deadly and banned." Around the same time, a CDC-funded nonprofit published a pamphlet encouraging people concerned about gun violence to “organize a picket at gun manufacturing sites” and write to their local politicians about gun control.
 
By 1996, outraged House Republicans had had enough: They led the effort to defund the part of the CDC that researched gun violence, and added a special rule preventing the agency from engaging in any activity that promoted gun control.
 
After the defunding, the CDC's spending on gun research dropped from a few million dollars a year in the 1990s to zero dollars today, and a larger message was sent to agencies that wading into gun research or data collection could lead to trouble with Congress. Separate federal actions limited other agencies' ability to collect data on gun ownership.
 
Over the years, pro-gun advocates and some social science researchers have contended that public health researchers who worked for or were funded by the CDC had a clear anti-gun agenda that led to sub-par and politically motivated research. That bias has not changed even though the CDC funding has dried up, they say.
 
"The ideology of the medical/public health researchers has not changed, and the quality of their research has not improved," says Gary Kleck, a criminologist at Florida State University. Kleck contends that his research on gun ownership and violence, which is often cited by the pro-gun rights side, is ignored by public health gun researchers.
 
In the public health research world, however, there's a near consensus that a gun lobby-backed campaign against the CDC has purposely suppressed research on the subject for political reasons, a setback that has left the field decades behind. Published academic research on firearm violence fell 60 percent between 1996 and 2010, according to a report by the pro-gun control group Mayors Against Illegal Guns. The CDC, the National Institutes of Health and the Justice Department's research arm all completely stopped or dramatically reduced their funding for gun-related research over the same period.
 
Researchers, many of whom depend upon federal grants, moved to other topics or reduced their firearms-related output.
 
"It's been very hard for people on soft money like myself to get funding for a lot of research," says David Hemenway, director of Harvard University's Injury Control Research Center. ("Soft money" means researchers are responsible for raising their own funds.)
 
Larry Cohen, founder of the nonprofit Prevention Group and a leader in the movement to define violence as a preventable public health issue, says the defunding of the CDC had a "chilling impact" on research in the gun violence field. After the defunding, "for the most part the research went away, so it had its desired effect," he says.
 
Questions including the safest way to store weapons in the home and whether firearm safety classes work have not been addressed, public health researchers say. "We're nearly 20 years behind in our ability to really ask these kinds of important questions," said Georges Benjamin, executive director of the American Public Health Association.
 
It's unclear how much of an effect the president's announcement will have on the field, however. A spokeswoman from the CDC said the agency will not begin doling out gun research funds until financial year 2014. Without the additional funds from Congress, it's unclear how much the CDC would be able to give out. If Congress complies with Obama's request to hand over $10 million for gun violence research, however, a bigger impact could be made.
 
"It would be a very needed breath of fresh air for Congress to allow the CDC to study this issue," Cohen says. The move may also remove a climate of fear around the research, public health researchers hope.
 
But those who pushed for the defunding in the 1990s worry the CDC could now push for more restrictions on guns through their research. "I'm concerned that if President Obama's recommendation to restore funding to the CDC is implemented that we are going to see once again the same thing that we saw back in the 1990s," says Dr. Tim Wheeler, a retired physician and the head of Doctors for Responsible Gun Ownership. "We're going to see a very powerful and very prominent federal agency using tax money to advocate for gun control and generating these pseudo-scientific studies to back it up."
 
Many public health researchers do believe gun ownership can be a health hazard, especially when it comes to suicide. Cohen says he hopes the surgeon general will release a report on suicides and firearms.
 
A National Academy of Sciences review of gun-related research in 2004 found that higher gun-ownership rates are associated with higher suicide rates. The report did not find evidence that right-to-carry laws lead to either an increase or decrease in violent crime.
 
The report also noted that researchers are hog-tied by a lack of good data on firearms collected by the government, including data on gun ownership. Without this data, it's hard for researchers to make strides, even with federal funds.
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« Reply #193 on: January 17, 2013, 06:55:35 pm »

Again, I'm not a fan of the NRA, but nonetheless wasn't Christie the same guy who took a stand against Planned Parenthood and gay marriage? Dunno, but he seems to have shown his true colors since Hurricane Sandy.

http://kplr11.com/2013/01/17/nj-gov-chris-christie-slams-nra/

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NJ Gov. Chris Christie Slams NRA

1/17/13

(KPLR) – New Jersey Governor Chris Christie, a Potential 2016 Presidential Candidate slammed the NRA Thursday for the online ad the National Rifle Association posted, pointed out President Obama’s daughters have armed guards and you don’t campaign.
 
Christie called the ads “reprehensible”, saying elected official’s kids should be off-limits.
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Of course he's going to say that seeing he's an official. Actually, he's reprehensible. It's hard to take somebody serious when they are morbidly obese. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #196 on: January 18, 2013, 04:48:06 pm »

Not that I'm trying to bring celebrities into the mix here, but Danny Glover can't be THIS dumb, right?

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“I don’t know if you know the genesis of the right to bear arms,” he said. “The Second Amendment comes from the right to protect themselves from slave revolts, and from uprisings by Native Americans.”

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Looks like "Republicans" are slowly caving in...

http://cowboybyte.com/17474/gov-bobby-jindal-proposing-gun-safety-legislation-based-on-mental-health-issues/

1/14/13

Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal Proposing “Gun Safety” Legislation Based On Mental Health Issues

Gov. Bobby Jindal wants to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill in an effort to reduce gun-related deaths and injury.
 
Jindal announced today that he will seek legislation to improve gun safety in Louisiana by enabling the state to report to the federally administered National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) database an individual’s eligibility to purchase firearms based on mental health records.

“Too often, both in Louisiana and in states across the nation, the mentally ill are slipping through the cracks and getting lost in the system,” Jindal said in a news release. “In order to protect these individuals and the communities they reside in, it is imperative that we take proactive steps to prevent them from harming either themselves or others.

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Governor Jindal, what about all of those psychomedic drugs that have been responsible for 90% of these shootings!! Angry

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Not that I'm trying to bring celebrities into the mix here, but Danny Glover can't be THIS dumb, right?

http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?ID=4582

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Apparently he is that dumb, or that brainwashed. Roll Eyes
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http://news.yahoo.com/pa-kindergartner-suspended-bubble-gun-remark-035057936.html

1/18/13

Pa. kindergartner suspended for bubble gun remark

MOUNT CARMEL, Pa. (AP) — A 5-year-old Pennsylvania girl who told another girl she was going to shoot her with a pink toy gun that blows soapy bubbles has been suspended from kindergarten.
 
Her family has hired an attorney to fight the punishment, which initially was 10 days but was reduced to two.
 
Attorney Robin Ficker says Mount Carmel Area School District officials labeled the girl a "terrorist threat" for the bubble gun remark, made Jan. 10 as both girls waited for a school bus.
 
Ficker says the girl didn't even have the bubble gun with her and has never fired a real gun. He says she's "the least terroristic person in Pennsylvania."
 
School district solicitor Edward Greco tells pennlive.com (http://bit.ly/13Nu0QF ) officials are looking into the case. He said Friday school officials aren't at liberty to discuss disciplinary actions.
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« Reply #200 on: January 26, 2013, 02:05:37 am »

First Chris Christie, and now someone from the NRA's OWN TEAM! Surprise, surprise... Shocked

http://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-nra-senior-lobbyist-says-attack-ad-ill-181051948.html

Exclusive: NRA senior lobbyist says attack ad was "ill-advised"

1/25/13
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - One of the National Rifle Association's senior lobbyists said an ad by the nation's leading gun-rights group after a school shooting in Connecticut that refers to President Barack Obama's children was "ill-advised."

Jim Baker, head of the federal affairs division at the NRA's Institute for Legislative Action, said he had made his views known to others at the powerful gun-rights organization.

The ad, which cast Obama as hypocritical for having expressed skepticism about putting armed guards in schools, when "his kids are protected by armed guards at their schools," drew widespread criticism when it first became public on January 15.

Nationwide outrage over the shooting of 20 children and six adults at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, on December 14 moved gun violence and gun control to the center of the U.S. political debate.

"I don't think it was particularly helpful, that ad," Baker told Reuters in a telephone interview. "I thought it ill-advised."
"I think the ad could have made a good point, if it talked about the need for increased school security, without making the point using the president's children," he said. The NRA has advocated putting armed guards in schools

Baker was the NRA's representative at a meeting with Vice President Joseph Biden on January 10 to discuss the administration's plans to reduce gun violence in the wake of the school shooting.

He said he was not involved in creating the ad, and once it appeared, he had let others at the NRA know what he thought. "I got to say my piece," he said.

Baker gave no details of the their response to him, but said, "Believe it or not, there are occasionally differences of opinion in this building."
In the ad, a narrator asks, "Are the president's kids more important than yours?" Obama's daughters, 14-year-old Malia and 11-year-old Sasha, attend private school in Washington and receive Secret Service protection, as is routine for children of presidents.

The White House has called the NRA ad "repugnant and cowardly," while New Jersey Governor Chris Christie said it was "reprehensible" and undermined the NRA's credibility by bringing the president's children into the debate. Christie is considered a possible Republican presidential contender in 2016.

Susan Eisenhower, the daughter of the late President Dwight Eisenhower who had Secret Service protection as a child, wrote in the Washington Post that she was "disgusted" by the ad.

The NRA's president, David Keene, objected to the White House criticism earlier this month, saying "We didn't name the president's daughters ... What we said is that these are people who think that their families deserve protection that yours don't."

The president's critics also have noted that when Obama announced his plan to respond to the gun violence, he was flanked by four children. Obama proposed renewing a U.S. assault weapons ban, as well as banning high-capacity magazines and more stringent background checks for gun purchasers.

(Reporting by Susan Cornwell; Editing by Marilyn W. Thompson and Jackie Frank)
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« Reply #201 on: January 26, 2013, 02:47:22 am »

Without a PC this week, really not much tv news other than that Notre Dame football player and his hoax online girlfriend scandal, and Lance Armstrong. However did manage to see this on CNN the other day.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/kathleen-turner-returns-to-washington-for-gun-control-march/article/2519593#.UQOXi7_hqxo

Kathleen Turner returns to Washington for gun control march

1/24/13

Actress Kathleen Turner has been a friend to Planned Parenthood and People for the American Way for many years, but this weekend she's coming to town to support a new cause -- gun control.

"It was very much [due to] Newtown," she told Yeas & Nays Thursday. "It's such a grass roots kind of response, it just came about from everyone's shock and horror at the murder of all those children," she continued.

Turner explained that Arena Stage artistic director Molly Smith called her up to see if she would come and speak at Saturday's March on Washington for Gun Control, something that Smith helped organize. Turner, who spent two months working at Arena playing Molly Ivins in "Red Hot Patriot," said absolutely.

"Obama said that he needs the will of the American people to make this sort of thing happen, so this is a response from the American people," Turner explained, adding that she is for limiting the magazine size of guns and tightening up background check loopholes, and would happily follow up with Congress.

As for returning to the local stage, Turner also said that she's thinking of returning to D.C. in 2014. "Molly's asked me to come do 'Glass Menagerie' in 2014 and, you know, Amanda's a role that I probably should tackle so I said yeah, I would definitely consider that," Turner said, referring to the Tennessee Williams' four-character play. She did, after all, have a good time living in the District. "I had a great little apartment on Eight Street in between the Portrait Gallery and the Archives and all those really good restaurants over on Seventh Street," she added.

The March on Washington for Gun Control will step off at 10 a.m. Saturday from the Capitol Reflecting Pool and travel to the Washington Monument.
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Gun Owners Refuse to Register Under New York Law:They’re saying, ‘F--- the governor! F--- Cuomo! We’re not going to register our guns,’ and I think they’re serious .People are going to resist, 

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/14322-gun-owners-refuse-to-register-under-new-york-law

'MENTAL HEALTH CHECK'

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/01/biden-mental-health-check-may-have-prevented-virginia-tech-shooting/

HOLDER MOVES ON GUNS...
http://thehill.com/blogs/regwatch/pending-regs/279345-holder-begins-gun-control-push

Communist Party USA cheers...
http://www.infowars.com/communists-cheer-on-obamas-gun-grab/

Warning from David Mamet...
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2013/01/28/gun-laws-and-the-fools-of-chelm-by-david-mamet.html

'Godfather' Tells Big Banks To Stop Supporting Gun Makers...
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/01/25/emanuel-to-banks-stop-supporting-gun-makers/

Feinstein Gun Control Bill Would Exempt Government Officials...
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/feinstein-gun-control-bill-exempt-government-officials_697732.html

Lacks Dem Votes to Pass...
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-25/assault-weapons-ban-lacks-democratic-votes-to-pass-senate.html
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Feinstein Permanent “Assault” Weapons Ban Planned for Over a Year Through the use of rigged and or biased polling data, the entire mainstream media, in conjunction with those in power who are pushing this public agenda of disarming the American people 

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What Happened to Our Country?

When people reminisce about what America used to be like, some act scornfully toward us. They say living in a Donna Reed world was great for a few, but that there were many suffering souls. The way our country is today makes some of us long for those days which seemed so innocent compared to the harsh, cruel, coarse, and sometimes murderous days we exist in today.

Yet most would argue that there were still injustices when we were growing up fifty years ago. Black people who had been freed a century before were still not treated equally in most parts of the country. Many women were limited in their businesses, political, and professional opportunities. And if they did enter any of those careers, they were capped as to what they could achieve. Few would want a return to those aspects of days past. Yet they would seem almost welcome compared to the experiences we have had in Newtown, Aurora and Tucson.

Even though now more than a month has passed, the pain of what happened in Sandy Hook Elementary school stills burns deeply in our hearts. There were some who started assigning blame for what happened within days which was clearly indecent during a national mourning period. Yes, we need to find paths to resolve the deep divisions that trouble this country. But will that really take us back to a simpler time? After all, the residents of Newtown likely lived there to avoid all this cultural degradation and live a “Leave It to Beaver” life where the biggest challenges were errant children chewing gum in class.

A yearning exists for the days when children rode their bikes to schools, which were open with flowing green fields where they frolicked under minimal supervision. Now children are escorted by grownups to their schools, which are fenced in and then locked down. Remember even at Sandy Hook the school was locked down at 9:30 each morning, just as almost all elementary schools are today.

What does it say to the children of our country that they have to be escorted everywhere they go? Are they left to think that wherever they go there are people in uniforms providing security and their parents are on a constant vigil watching them? What kind of country have we passed to them?

That we cannot as the grownups in this society come to some agreement of how to resolve this only makes matters worse. With every single massacre, we instantaneously divide into two camps. There are those who immediately shriek that it was the gun at fault, completely ignoring the other societal factors that brought a deranged madman to execute an unfathomable act. Then there are those who argue that there exists nothing that we can do to keep the means of mass murder out of the hands of these freaks.

Come on folks, we can do something about this, but the suggestion by Wayne LaPierre of the NRA to put armed guards on all campuses seems so distasteful. Already an estimated third of our children go to schools that have armed guards. We should not unreasonably restrict our Second Amendment rights because of these maniacs, but putting our kids on lock down would just make matters so much more obscene.

We have not yet had a coherent conversation about how to move forward. The people who want more gun control lurch into nonsensical talk about bazookas or tanks with very little knowledge of guns or how they function. People like the editor of the Journal News (Westchester area of New York), who listed the names and addresses of local gun owners in the newspaper, display to what extent the left will go to restrict gun ownership. They are scary as their actions are reminiscent of command and control countries that totally restrict gun rights.

Some people do not understand that there is a difference regarding gun owners. It is not like obtaining a driver’s license. That is a privilege. The right to own a gun is embedded in our Constitution. It is there for a reason. The unrepentant Caryn A. McBride, Editor of the Journal News which listed the home addresses of prison guards and district attorneys in her cause to restrict gun ownership, scares us and should scare you. It brings into question the rationale for a federal gun registry when ownership is a right not a privilege.

Yet, there are things that are just not going right. We have lost sight of the faith, family, and community that built this country. Our government has become too big yet cannot even confront the truly mentally ill among us. As Charles Murray taught us in his most recent book, Coming Apart, even our rock solid middle-class communities are falling apart. The amount of children being raised without proper parenting is just appalling. And when people do get married, far too many are getting divorced for their own selfish reasons while thinking their children will be just fine. Boys need fathers and not just as appendages.

Never being a fan of video games, we would just as soon trash them, but that would be a First Amendment problem. Yet, when politicians decry weapons, they should really assault the culture vultures who sell these games that desensitize young males. Our President booted this issue to be studied in his recent proposal. That means zero will happen on this aspect of the problem. Why do we have to hear this nonsense that only protects these products? Moral suasion still works as has been effective with cigarette smoking, so why can’t we do the same with these disgusting games? Why do parents acquiesce to allow the constant devolution of young male minds?

You may wonder why so many people bemoan our current culture and hark back to happier times. Maybe it is not as bucolic as we paint it, but our children certainly lived a more innocent existence. What our goal should be is to bring all children to those wonderful times instead of bringing every child down to the lowest common denominator. The innocence of childhood can never be devalued. It can only be lost. Let’s not have the innocence of another group of youngsters lost like we have at Sandy Hook. Let’s show some leadership.

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John 12:46  I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.
Joh 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Joh 12:48  He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

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http://www.skynews.com.au/politics/article.aspx?id=837434

Vatican supports Obama on gun control
Updated: 15:20, Sunday January 20, 2013

The Vatican has praised US President Barack Obama's proposals for curbing gun violence, saying they are a 'step in a right direction'.

Vatican's chief spokesman the Rev Federico Lombardi, in an editorial on Saturday, said 47 religious leaders had appealed to members of the US Congress 'to limit firearms that are making society pay an unacceptable price in terms of massacres and senseless deaths'.

'I am with them,' Lombardi declared, lining up the Vatican's moral support in favour of firearm limits.

'The initiatives announced by the American administration for limiting and controlling the spread and use of weapons are certainly a step in the right direction.'

Obama is trying to rally support for reinstating a ban on assault weapons and requiring background checks on all gun sales.

He faces stiff opposition in the US Congress and from powerful gun lobbies.

Considering that Americans possess 'about 300 million firearms,' Lombardi said, 'people cannot fool themselves that it is enough to limit the number and use (of guns) to impede in the future horrendous massacres like that of Newtown that shook the conscience of America and world, as well as that of children and adults'.

He was referring to the Newtown, Connecticut, elementary school where 20 children and six adults were killed by a sole attacker last month.

'But it would be worse to be satisfied with words' of condemnation alone, Lombardi said.

And while massacres are 'carried out by unbalanced or hate-driven persons, there is no doubt that they are carried out with firearms'.

Lombardi renewed Vatican appeals for disarmament and encouragement for measures to fight 'the production, commerce and contraband of all types of arms,' an industry fuelled by 'enormous economic and power interests.'
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http://news.yahoo.com/thousands-march-gun-control-washington-164306917.html

Thousands march for gun control in Washington

1/26/13

WASHINGTON (AP) — Thousands of people, many holding signs with names of gun violence victims and messages such as "Ban Assault Weapons Now," joined a rally for gun control on Saturday, marching from the Capitol to the Washington Monument.

Participants were led by Mayor Vincent Gray and other officials Saturday morning, and the crowd stretched for about two blocks along Constitution Avenue. Police blocked off half the road.

Participants held signs reading "Gun Control Now" and "Stop NRA," among other messages. Other signs were simple and white, with the names of victims of gun violence.

About 100 residents were expected from Newtown, Conn., where a gunman killed 20 first-graders and six teachers at a school in December. The rally was organized in response to that shooting.

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« Reply #208 on: January 27, 2013, 01:37:06 pm »

http://www.teapartytribune.com/2012/04/09/ag-beau-biden-mandates-that-sheriffs-no-longer-have-arrest-powers/

4/9/12

Delaware AG Beau BIDEN, Mandates That Sheriffs No Longer Have Arrest Powers

“It is time for the sworn protectors of Liberty, the County Sheriffs, to walk tall and defend their citizens from all enemies of our Constitution and our Bill of Rights.”

http://bonfiresblog.wordpress.com/2012/04/08/sheriffs-bushwhacked/

”We do have some sheriffs with the courage to tell the federal government to stay out of their counties and not enter unless they clear with the sheriff first. The sheriff is not a part of the federal judicial system.  He holds executive powers.”

By Pat Shannan

Sheriff Jeff Christopher of Sussex County, Delaware, when he was elected to the office in 2010, thought he was handpicked by the people to represent them as the highest-ranking law officer in the county. Instead, he has found himself in the middle of a fight for the future of American law enforcement as a result of a nationwide effort to abolish the sheriff’s office altogether.

It is one more example of federal and state governments ignoring the will of the people as well state laws. In the case of Delaware, the state’s own  constitution stipulates that the office of the sheriff is a constitutionally created position just like the secretary of state and the attorney general. Delaware’s Constitution states: “The sheriffs shall be conservators of the peace within the counties . . . in which they reside.”

This time it is Delaware Attorney General Beau Biden, son of Vice President Joe Biden, sending out mandates to commissioners informing them that their sheriffs no longer have arrest powers. In an opinion released Feb. 24, State Solicitor L.W. Lewis said that neither the state nor the common law grants arrest powers to the county sheriffs.

It would appear that Lewis is a little confused. The office of sheriff was created more than a century before the official founding of the United States. Delaware’s first sheriff took office in 1669.

“Now my deputies and I have been relieved of all arrest powers and can’t even make a traffic stop,” he said. “Delaware has only three counties. . . The other two sheriffs . . . will not stand up with me” to prevent the elimination of county law enforcement, he said.

Beau Biden’s questionable ruling against the longtime tradition of the sheriff being the highest ranking law enforcement officer in the county because of election by the people means the state’s usurpation of the office appears to be a forthcoming fact.

County spokesman Chip Guy announced, “The opinion from the attorney general’s office reinforces what has long been the position of the county [that] Delaware sheriffs and their deputies do not have arrest powers and are not in the same vein as state police or municipal officers.”
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« Reply #209 on: January 27, 2013, 04:44:17 pm »

http://news.yahoo.com/could-gun-control-gay-marriage-194640088.html;_ylt=A2KJjb1uoAVR3GEALG7QtDMD

1/17/13

Could gun control be the new gay marriage?

The public's views on gay marriage have moved decidedly to the left, spurred by demographic and generational changes in the electorate. But that same electorate has shifted to the right on gun control. Why the politics of the two issues are different, for now.


Is gun control the new gay marriage? Or are the issues more like mirror images of one another?

Both could be categorized as hot-button topics that for years generated more political activism on the right than on the left. Both have also seen a recent shift in public opinion that, in the case of gay marriage, is upending the politics surrounding the issue, and in the case of gun control, has the potential to do so.

But there are big differences between the two, as well. Gun control has been around as an issue much longer than gay marriage, and public opinion on it has waxed and waned – with support often spiking after a high-profile shooting, only to fall again. Moreover, the long-term trend on gun control, unlike gay marriage, has been a rise in opposition. As recently as April, the Pew Research Center put out a report noting the divergent trends on the two issues, noting that "on gun control, Americans have become more conservative; on gay marriage, Americans have become more liberal."

Still, gun-control proponents including New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg have been arguing vociferously that the issue is not nearly the political loser that Democrats have for years assumed it to be. And the dramatic change that's been occurring when it comes to public opinion on gay marriage – pulling politicians along with it – offers an intriguing model as to where the politics surrounding the gun issue could potentially be headed.

Let's look first at gay marriage. As recently as 2004, President George W. Bush's campaign was able to use it as a "wedge issue" to drive up turnout among conservatives, helping him win reelection. That year, the Pew Research Center found that 60 percent of Americans opposed gay marriage, while just 31 percent favored it. Four years later, in 2008, those numbers had shifted – though the majority was still in opposition, with 51 percent opposing, and 38 percent in favor.

By 2012, however, it was a completely different story: In July, Pew found just 41 percent of Americans opposed gay marriage, while a plurality of 48 percent favored it. Some of that shift was driven by generational changes, since young people tend to be more broadly in favor of gay marriage (though support has gone up among all age groups). The bigger change, though, was demographic: The electorate has become more Democratic, more urban, more educated, less religious, and less white – and the politics surrounding many cultural issues like gay marriage have shifted accordingly.

So might those same demographic changes portend a similar shift to the left in public opinion on guns?

Well, in recent years, as previously noted, the trend has been in the opposite direction – with support for gun rights growing. In the wake of the Columbine High School shootings in 1999, Pew found that 65 percent of Americans said it was more important to control guns, while just 30 percent said it was more important to protect gun rights. By contrast, in the wake of last summer's movie-theater shooting in Aurora, Colo., just 47 percent said controlling guns should be the priority, compared with 46 percent preferring to protect gun rights.

That shifted somewhat in the wake of Newtown. In a survey released this week, Pew found 51 percent saying it was more important to control gun ownership, while 45 percent were on the side of protecting gun rights. That puts support for gun control at its highest point in President Obama's tenure, yet still well below the levels of support found during the Clinton years.

But it's also worth noting that the rise in opposition to gun control has come about almost entirely because of a shift among Republicans, who have become much more strongly in favor of gun rights in recent years, while views among Democrats have remained relatively stable.

And in many cases, those who currently say they favor protecting gun rights actually do support certain gun-control measures, such as universal background checks (favored by 85 percent overall) and preventing people with mental illnesses from purchasing guns (80 percent support). Even more notable, 58 percent of Americans say they would favor a ban on semi-automatic weapons.

Bottom line: It's too soon to tell where all this is heading. But while the overall trajectory of public opinion on gun control has not resembled the trajectory on gay marriage in recent years, it's also not crazy to think that it might start to, soon.

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The highlighted above is what caught my attention - a little leaven leaventh the whole lump...ultimately, either you support gun rights, or you don't, there's no ifs/ands/buts around it. If the government starts with universal background checks and preventing a class of people from getting them, then in the long run it will lead to a very dark path. Same with banning semi-automatic weapons - as far as I know, an aluminum baseball bat is worse than these "semi-automatic" weapons.
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