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« on: February 21, 2013, 12:42:19 am »

Okay doing thhis from phone, but does anyone here support the book of Enoch or Jasher? I know they are not scripture for sure, but I know Scott uses Enoch a lot and recently used Jasher. i have read Enoch myself.
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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2013, 12:50:50 am »

I did download book of Jasher yesterday for first time to check it out, and i did read some of it when i got home, but there were some whacky things said in it. Things like "Abraham" worshipped the Sun and Moon and stars and other things before worshipping the true God. while its not scripture the word of God does mention the book of Jasher. so i am wondering all your thoughtss on forum here. I mean book of Enoch does support and talk alot abbout like the "Giants" and stuff, but here is my thought. Satan knows all that, and word of God better than any of us. so could he of inspired any of these books. at least Enoch and others that is.
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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2013, 12:58:29 am »

The big problem i see with these books is that, while they may have some truth they also have lies mixed in with them, and never seem to point you to "Jesus Christ" and how to get saved or the Gospel. they

also can get you done the wrong path into like oher books such as the "Gospel of Thomas or Peter, etc"

I also found out that these books were supported by men like "Clement, Origin" among others of "Alexandria" egypt supported these books.

now should we be trusting anything that comes out of Alexandria egypt, honestly? lol
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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2013, 01:08:32 am »

I found this one site listing all these like "extra-biblical" books on it, like the lost books of Eden of Adam and Eve. yeah okay sure lol. I will need to check email to get sites correct name but its like "sacred texts.org or com or something. they havve all kinds of these books on there including like Gospel of Mary and Barnabus. The letter to laodacians among others. they also have the Koran among so many other false books, and nostradomus.....I sent site to Scott so he could explore and expose it posssibly if he chooses. But its one crazy place. they have the 151st psalm, the "odes" of solomon and all these supposed "lost" books. they also have the apocrafa. it reminds me of the Catholic Church. i am surprized they dont have these books in thier bibles lol.
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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2013, 01:35:14 am »

Okay found name of site and its called

www.sacred-texts.com

it should be called "one world religion textss" i just noticed on there they have like texts from "necromancy" and "occult" and "native american"
they have this one book on there called "book of shadows" oh boy! i need that book lol. they have stuff on atlantis....neo paganism, i mean EVERYTHING, its bad.

Scott should expose this hard if he has time. 
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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2013, 01:54:29 am »

The books called Enoch and Jasher, as well as several other books that are part of what is called the Apocrypha are not canon. They are Gnostic false books. They are true leaven. They are not the Word of God, so I cannot advise reading them, and in fact discourage people from reading that junk.

Very simple. Stick to the bible. Forget all those other books out there, as enticing as they may be. The only reason one would go to other sources trying to find info is lack of patience on the Holy Ghost to teach you from His Word.
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« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2013, 03:30:35 am »

I was not implying they were scripture, and even sstick to same view as Scott Johnson that they are not canon, but use to think you could get some value out of the book of Enoch, and book of enoch only. However I dont feel that way about it or anymore, and havent for some time. infact its probablyy been 1 maybe even 2 years since I have read book. I got convicted by the Lord a long time ago to stay away from the stuff. I know Scott uses it, and while i tried to intreat him he wouldnt budge. i leave it in the Lords hands

while i did pick up book of Jasher it was only to see if verse Scott used in teaching actually said that, but after reading some of it i didnt feel too comtorable and wil delete it.

I listed site only to warn others and expose it. Like i said i dont really agree with Scott using them, and is probably one of my only major big issues that i have with him. Howeverr its in The Lords hands.
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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2013, 03:40:09 am »

The book of Enoch is not in the Bible, and it uses words and phrases that existed thousands of years AFTER it would have been written. The book of Jasher, isnt in the Bible either and is clearly written after the time it is claimed to have been written.

using them as a historical text of what the people believed at the time is one thing, using them to base any canonical belief is wrong on so many levels. oh, and Jesus never once quoted the book of Enoch, the only quote that any one an claim is from Jude.
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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2013, 03:56:58 am »

I always wondered why it had like modern words or phrases in it. suppose that explains it a little better. I stick to 66 books of Gods word, but I came across book of Enoch, because the man who oringally witnessed to me who was a christian friend told me about "steve quayle" and the "giants" and than book of Enoch later.

Than when I started to listen to Scott Johnson in late 2010 i discovered he used it.

you might remove that link to that site ad reference to it so no one goes to it,  as i dont want to lead anyone astray.

the only one i put any true stock in NOT as scripture but just as extra info or history was book of Enoch.
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« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2013, 04:05:43 am »

I know none of its Gods word, and stay away from it as much as posssible as the Catholics have their Apocphra garbage in their bible. I guess now that i think about it thats why translators removed it later out of KJV because they knew it was garbage and heresy.

One thing i have always said to myself is that all of Gods word was "penned" or wrote down by the Jews. Both Old and New Testaments.
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« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2013, 04:17:08 am »

Enoch and Jasher is not part of the apocrypha, they are strictly extra Biblical books. The Apocrypha are heretical books the Catholic church use to help propagate their demonic beliefs. The Translators of the AV, never intended the apocrypha to be included in the AV Bible. It was added by jesuit spies and the jesuit paid publishers. That is why it was quickly removed.
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« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2013, 04:06:12 pm »

I stand corrected. Enoch and Jasher are not Apocrypha. All those false books tend to blend together!
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