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FervorForFaith
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« on: February 27, 2013, 08:06:01 pm »

I'm currently in an online debate on a secular forum with a non-believer, and he made mention of Leviticus 24:44-46, and has baited me to explain it. Of course, these verses are as follows:

"Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids. Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession. And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour."

These verses I think are the most controversial from a secular perspective, and they have been used to lay many a stumbling block. I didn't find a thread about this, but I figured it was a worthwhile thread because I'm sure every Christian at one point or another has had these verses thrown at them and said to them, "You condone slavery! You racist bigot!"

I'm not a Bible scholar, so I was also hoping to get a little more clarity on these verses, as well.
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« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2013, 09:42:27 pm »

Lev 25, not 24.
Other modern versions use slave, not bondsmen.
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One would need to find the difference; bondsmen I think deals with paying off a debt of some sort.
The other point would be to convince them that slave is not correct; that will be nearly impossible, since most place their faith in dead language scholars.
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2013, 02:59:01 am »

Yeah, this is such a weak argument by the naysayers.

Fact is, yes, there were so-called "slaves" WAY back then, and the Judaic law has rules for it. That's no secret.

But the deal is, that's a "policy" of the Jews, not Christians. It's a Levitical law issue.

And even more important, the law no longer applies to Christians as it does in Judaism. And the truth is, these were rules for hiring workers, and it usually involved working off debts as bondsmen. Slaves have no debt to their owners. They are the debt, and have no future of release from their servitude, whereas a bondman has a certain period to work off a debt, like 7 years I think.

It's a moot point. If anybody, those people need to rail on the Jews, as they are the ones that still claim some adherence to the Judaic law.

If your justified by the law, you've fallen from grace.
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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2013, 03:28:47 am »

From Yahoo Answers:

"They are called "bondmen" for a reason - they have a bond against them and this was the whole reason for slavery in times past.

Judicially, the alien resident was guaranteed impartial justice in judgments involving a natural Israelite. (De 1:16, 17) He was not to be defrauded or subjected to perverted judgment. (De 24:14, 17) Curses were laid on those who rendered injustice to alien residents. (De 27:19) The cities of refuge for the unintentional manslayer were available for the alien resident and the settler as well as the natural Israelite.—Nu 35:15; Jos 20:9.

Alien residents, not having any land inheritance, might be merchants or hired laborers. Some were slaves. (Le 25:44-46) There was a possibility of their becoming wealthy. (Le 25:47; De 28:43) Generally, however, the Law classified them as among the poor and outlined arrangements for protecting and providing for them. The alien resident could share in the tithes provided every third year. (De 14:28, 29; 26:12) Gleanings of the field and of the vineyard were to be left for him. (Le 19:9, 10; 23:22; De 24:19-21) He could receive the benefits of what grew during Sabbath years. (Le 25:6) He was given equal protection with a native Israelite as a hired laborer. A poor Israelite might sell himself to a wealthy alien resident, in which case the Israelite was to be treated kindly, like a hired laborer, and could be repurchased at any time by himself or by a kinsman or, at the latest, was released on the seventh year of his service or at the Jubilee.—Le 25:39-54; Ex 21:2; De 15:12.

During the period of the kings the alien residents continued to enjoy favorable relations. At the time of the construction of the temple at Jerusalem, they were drawn on as construction workers. (1Ch 22:2; 2Ch 2:17, 18) When King Asa acted to restore true worship in Judah, alien residents from all over the Promised Land assembled at Jerusalem along with natural Israelites, to enter jointly into a special covenant to search for Jehovah with all their heart and soul. (2Ch 15:8-14) After cleansing the temple, King Hezekiah declared a Passover celebration in Jerusalem in the second month. He sent the invitation throughout Israel, and many alien residents responded.—2Ch 30:25.

Meaning this covenant is only applicable for the Israelites in the time of the Mosaic Law."
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