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« on: March 01, 2011, 12:55:04 am »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaXuZ7ZWlOE&feature=player_embedded#at=63

Although Obama may not be the worst president to be elected blindly by many American people, he surely is helping the Muslim mosque's recruit radicals. Its bad enough that Muslims are beginning an uprising in the Middle East for "democracy." Think about it, do they even know what democracy is or are they just blind sided by what Americans portray as "democracy?"
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« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2011, 01:13:46 am »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaXuZ7ZWlOE&feature=player_embedded#at=63

Although Obama may not be the worst president to be elected blindly by many American people, he surely is helping the Muslim mosque's recruit radicals. Its bad enough that Muslims are beginning an uprising in the Middle East for "democracy." Think about it, do they even know what democracy is or are they just blind sided by what Americans portray as "democracy?"

I know I'm starting to sound like I'm beating a dead horse - but is this the work of the ZIONISTS?! Huh (Sorry, wasted 2 hours of my life arguing this same topic on a "truther" MB tonight)

Anyhow, this has been a big problem since the 21st century rolled around.

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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2011, 09:31:51 pm »

Passover recalls the bondage and suffering of Jews in Egypt and the miracle of the Exodus, but U.S. President Barack Obama says its message is reflected in Muslim uprisings.

In his annual message, prior to his third straight participation in the Passover Seder, President Obama stated, “The story of Passover…instructs each generation to remember its past, while appreciating the beauty of freedom and the responsibility it entails. This year that ancient instruction is reflected in the daily headlines as we see modern stories of social transformation and liberation unfolding in the Middle East and North Africa.”

Having constructed a link between the Arab uprisings and Chosen People's experiencing the miracles of the Creator that led them out of Egypt and towards the receiving of the Ten Commandments, the President concluded, "As Jewish families gather for this joyous celebration of freedom, let us all be thankful for the gifts that have been bestowed upon us, and let us work to alleviate the suffering, poverty, injustice, and hunger of those who are not yet free.”

For good measure, he also added the Hebrew term “Chag Samayach,” which means “Have a happy holiday.”

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« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2011, 03:08:22 pm »

From: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/muslim-americans-give-obama-80-percent-a

Wednesday, August 10, 2011
By Terence P. Jeffrey

(CNSNews.com) -- Eighty percent of Muslim Americans approve of the way Barack Obama is handling his job as president, according to a newly released survey conducted by the Abu Dhabi Gallup Center, a partnership between Gallup and the Crown Prince Court of Abu Dhabi.


Zaytuna College co-founder Dr. Hatem Bazian, foreground, and co-rounder and chairman of the board Shaykh Hamza Yusuf pray at Zaytuna College in Berkeley, Monday, Aug. 30, 2010. (AP Photo/Jeff Chiu)

According to the survey, 65 percent of Jewish Americans approve of the job Obama is doing; 60 percent of atheists, agnostics, and those of no religion approve; 50 percent of Catholics approve; 37 percent of Protestants approve and 25 percent of Mormons approve.

Although published this month, the survey of Muslim Americans was actually completed on April 9. (In Gallup’s overall polling in the week that ended April 10, Obama’s approval was at 45 percent, slightly higher than the 42 percent it hit last week.)

Obama’s approval among Muslim Americans has declined since 2009 but still remains far higher than the approval President George W. Bush’s won among Muslim Americans in 2008.  In that year, only 7 percent of Muslim Americans said they approved of the job Bush was doing.

In 2009, 84 percent of Muslim Americans said they approved of the job Obama was doing. That dropped to 78 percent in 2010 and then rose to 80 percent this year.

The Abu Dhabi Gallup Center says it interviewed 3,883 self-identified Muslim Americans between Jan. 1, 2008 and April 9, 2011 to get its polling trends in that community. The interviews were part of Gallup’s ongoing polling of at least 1,000 American adults 350 days per year.
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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2011, 11:29:11 pm »

Obama Administration Bans the Truth About Islam and Jihad


It has been a long time coming, but the Obama Administration has now officially banned the truth. Deputy U.S. Attorney General James Cole declared Wednesday at a conference in Washington that he had “recently directed all components of the Department of Justice to re-evaluate their training efforts in a range of areas, from community outreach to national security.” This “reevaluation” will remove all references to Islam in connection with any examination of Islamic jihad terror activity. The Obama Administration has now placed off-limits any investigation of the beliefs, motives and goals of jihad terrorists.

Dwight C. Holton, former U.S. Attorney for the District of Oregon, emphasized that training materials for the FBI would be purged of everything politically incorrect: “I want to be perfectly clear about this: training materials that portray Islam as a religion of violence or with a tendency towards violence are wrong, they are offensive, and they are contrary to everything that this president, this attorney general and Department of Justice stands for. They will not be tolerated.”

Holton said that he had spoken with Attorney General Eric Holder about FBI training materials that Holton claimed were “egregiously false,” and that Holder “is firmly committed to making sure that this is over….we’re going to fix it.” Holton said that this “fix” was particularly urgent because the rejected training materials “pose a significant threat to national security, because they play into the false narrative propagated by terrorists that the United States is at war with Islam.”

Cole suggested that these training materials had done damage domestically as well: “One of the many, tragic legacies of 9/11 has been an increase in prejudice, discrimination and hatred directed against persons of the Muslim and Sikh faiths and those who are, or who are mistakenly perceived to be, of Arab or South Asian descent. Some have wrongly sought to blame the horror of 9/11 on Arab-American, Muslim American, Sikh-American and South Asian American communities. It has led to attacks against places of worship and other hate crimes, to job discrimination, and to the tragic harassment of children in our schools.”

After sketching out this horror tale, Cole declared: “We must never allow our sorrow and anger at the senseless attack of 9/11 to blind us to the great gift of our diversity.” And this, he said, must involve a rejection of the stereotyping of Muslims: “All of us must reject any suggestion that every Muslim is a terrorist or that every terrorist is a Muslim.  As we have seen time and again – from the Oklahoma City bombing to the recent attacks in Oslo, Norway – no religion or ethnicity has a monopoly on terror.” It was George Bush, he said, who after 9/11 “made clear to the nation that these terrorist acts were committed by individuals who distort the peaceful religion of Islam,” and now all government analysis of jihad terror would reflect that perspective.

Of course, the controversial training materials did not really claim that all Muslims are terrorists or that all terrorists are Muslims, and it is noteworthy that Cole had to resort to dismissive caricatures to make his point. For in taking this course, the Obama Administration is bowing to pressure from the Hamas-linked Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) and other Islamic advocacy groups. In a Los Angeles Times op-ed that appeared on the same day as the conference in Washington, Salam al-Marayati of the Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC) roundly criticized existing training materials about jihad terror and demanded that the FBI and the Justice Department “issue a clear and unequivocal apology to the Muslim American community; establish a thorough and transparent vetting process in selecting its trainers and materials; invite experts who have no animosity toward any religion to conduct training about any religious community to law enforcement.”

Al-Marayati complained that training materials reflected “bigoted and inflammatory views on Muslims, including claims that ‘devout’ Muslims are more prone toward violence, that Islam aims to ‘transform a country’s culture into 7th century Arabian ways,’ that Islamic charitable giving is a ‘funding mechanism for combat’ and that the prophet Muhammad was a ‘violent cult leader.’”

In this al-Marayati was simply repeating talking points from an “expose” of FBI training materials by hard-Left journalist Spencer Ackerman in Wired, who has been conducting a campaign for some time to get the bureau to purge its terrorism training seminars of any hint of the truth about the global jihad and Islamic supremacism. Yet like virtually all Leftist and Islamic supremacist critics of anti-jihad and anti-terror material, Ackerman and al-Marayati take for granted that such assertions are false, without bothering to explain how or why. Apparently they believe that their falsity is so self-evident as to require no demonstration; unfortunately, however, there is considerable evidence that they are true, and that in banning such materials, the Obama Administration has essentially banned the truth.

Are “‘devout’ Muslims more prone toward violence”? While certainly not all devout Muslims are terrorists, virtually all Islamic terrorists are devout Muslims. In recent years, not only Osama bin Laden but also devout Muslims such as Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, would-be Times Square bomber Feisal Shahzad, Arkansas jihad murderer Abdulhakim Muhammad, and other jihad terror plotters such as Khalid Aldawsari, Baitullah Mehsud, and Roshonara Choudhry, among many others, reference Islamic teachings to justify violence against unbelievers. Just recently, Detroit underwear bomber Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab declared in court that Muslims should only be judged by the Qur’an.

Is the “Islamic charitable giving” a “‘funding mechanism for combat’”? If not, one wonders why so many Islamic charities in the United States and around the world have been shut down for funding terrorism, including what was once the largest Islamic charity in the United States, the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development (HLF), as well as the Global Relief Foundation (GRF), the Benevolence International Foundation (BIF), and many others.

Was Muhammad a “violent cult leader”? Certainly one definition of a cult is that members are not free to opt out if they choose to do so – and it was Muhammad who enunciated Islam’s notorious death penalty for apostasy by saying, “Whoever changes his Islamic religion, then kill him.” (Bukhari 9.84.57). Also, there are several celebrated incidents in which Muhammad lashed out violently against his opponents, ordering the murder of several people for the crime of making fun of him — including the poet Abu Afak, who was over one hundred years old, and the poetess Asma bint Marwan. Abu Afak was killed in his sleep, in response to Muhammad’s question, “Who will avenge me on this scoundrel?” Similarly, Muhammad on another occasion cried out, “Will no one rid me of this daughter of Marwan?” One of his followers, Umayr ibn Adi, went to her house that night, where he found her sleeping next to her children. The youngest, a nursing babe, was in her arms. But that didn’t stop Umayr from murdering her and the baby as well. Muhammad commended him: “You have done a great service to Allah and His Messenger, Umayr!” (Ibn Ishaq, 674-676).

Al-Marayati’s demand that the FBI and Justice Department “invite experts who have no animosity toward any religion to conduct training about any religious community to law enforcement” is at the heart of this entire affair, and illustrates the assumptions upon which the Obama Administration is now proceeding. For years Islamic advocacy groups like MPAC and Hamas-linked CAIR have asserted loudly and often that telling the truth about Islam’s doctrines of jihad warfare and supremacism constituted “hatred,” and endangered innocent Muslims. Hamas-linked CAIR has trumpeted and even fabricated hate crimes against Muslims in order to exaggerate this perception of Muslim victimhood.

The entire premise of all this, however, is false. The now-banned FBI training materials were not written out of hatred for Muslims. They were put together in order to give agents an accurate picture of the beliefs and perspectives of jihad terrorists. It is unfortunate but true that the Qur’an and Sunnah do contain doctrines of warfare and exhortations to make war against and subjugate infidels (cf. Qur’an 2:191; 4:89; 9:5; 9:29; 47:4, etc.), and it is not an act of “hatred” to point this out, or even to scrutinize the Muslim community in the U.S. in order to try to determine its view of these texts and teachings. The only people who are genuinely threatened by such scrutiny are those who wish jihad terrorism to be able to proceed unhindered.

And there’s the rub: in banning the truth about Islam and jihad, the Obama Administration has opened the door for increased jihad terror activity in the United States. Agents who do not understand the threat they face and are constantly surprised by the places where that threat is coming from will be powerless to stop this jihad activity. And the nation will reap the whirlwind.

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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2012, 10:48:35 am »

Barack Obama Apologizes For Burning Korans But Not For Burning Bibles?

It has become exceedingly clear that Barack Obama does not believe that all religions should be treated equally.  In recent days Barack Obama has gone to great lengths to apologize for the "inadvertent" burning of Korans by U.S. military forces in Afghanistan.  In fact, Obama has given his word that the United States will be "holding accountable those responsible" for the burning of the Korans.  But when the U.S. military purposely burned Bibles in Afghanistan a few years ago, there was never any apology from Barack Obama.  Christian groups all over the U.S. expressed great outrage but there was dead silence from Obama.  So why the double standard?  Do Muslims get an apology because they are willing to become violent over the burning of a Koran?  Does Barack Obama consider a Koran to be more valuable than a Bible?  Exactly what in the world is going on here?

Barack Obama sent Afghan President Hamid Karzai a three page letter on Thursday apologizing for the burning of Korans at a NATO air base in Bagram.  In the letter, Obama specifically promised that those "responsible" would be punished....

"The error was inadvertent; I assure you that we will take the appropriate steps to avoid any recurrence, to include holding accountable those responsible."
Well, the truth is that the soldiers that dumped the Korans into the incinerator were just following orders.

So who is going to be held responsible?

Their superior officers?

Someone higher up in the chain of command?

Barack Obama is sitting in the chair of the Commander in Chief.

Doesn't the buck stop with him?

Of course we all know that some poor scapegoat will be found.  That is the way these kinds of things always work.

Ever since news of this Koran burning got out, Afghanistan has been in a constant state of turmoil.  Both Afghans and U.S. soldiers have been killed in the wild violence that has erupted.  The following is from a Reuters article....

The Koran burnings ignited anti-Western fury. Thousands have taken to the streets and at least 27 people have been killed in the protests. Two American soldiers were shot to death on Thursday by an Afghan national army soldier who joined the rallies.
Even Afghan police officers and Afghan soldiers have joined in the anti-American protests.  The following example is from the New York Times....

Mohammed Anwar, an off-duty police officer, had joined the protesters on Friday and seemed barely able to contain his fury. “I will take revenge from the infidels for what they did to our Holy Koran, and I will kill them whenever I get the chance,” he said as he walked with crowd of protesters wielding rocks and sticks. “I don’t care about the job I have.”
This is a story that is not going to die any time soon, and Barack Obama will continue to ensure the Afghan people that nothing like this will ever happen again.

But there was never a single word of apology from Obama for the deliberate burning of Christian Bibles by U.S. forces in Afghanistan that happened just a few years ago.

Apparently the burning of Bibles is not a problem for the Obama administration.

Many of you may not have heard about that incident.  The following is how a CNN article back in 2009 described what happened....

Military personnel threw away, and ultimately burned, confiscated Bibles that were printed in the two most common Afghan languages amid concern they would be used to try to convert Afghans, a Defense Department spokesman said Tuesday.
You can view a video news report about this incident right here.

There was no letter of apology when Christian groups expressed anger about this.

So why does the Koran get treated with far more respect by the U.S. government than the Bible does?

But this is far from the only time that Barack Obama has given Islam a tremendous amount of respect while showing tremendous disdain for Christianity.

The following are 10 quotes from Barack Obama that show the incredible admiration that he has regularly expressed for the religion of Islam....

#1 "Islam has always been part of America"

#2 "we will encourage more Americans to study in Muslim communities"

#3 "These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings."

#4 "America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles of justice and progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings."

#5 "So I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed"

#6 "Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity and racial equality"

#7 "As a young man, I worked in Chicago communities where many found dignity and peace in their Muslim faith."

#8 "I look forward to hosting an Iftar dinner celebrating Ramadan here at the White House later this week, and wish you a blessed month."

#9 "That experience guides my conviction that partnership between America and Islam must be based on what Islam is, not what it isn't. And I consider it part of my responsibility as president of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear."

#10 "I also know that Islam has always been a part of America's story."

Now, compare those quotes to these 10 quotes from Barack Obama about Christianity....

#1 "Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation"

#2 "We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation."

#3 "Which passages of scripture should guide our public policy?  Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is OK and that eating shellfish is an abomination?  Or we could go with Deuteronomy, which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith?"

#4 "Even those who claim the Bible's inerrancy make distinctions between Scriptural edicts, sensing that some passages - the Ten Commandments, say, or a belief in Christ's divinity - are central to Christian faith, while others are more culturally specific and may be modified to accommodate modern life."

#5 "The American people intuitively understand this, which is why the majority of Catholics practice birth control and some of those opposed to gay marriage nevertheless are opposed to a Constitutional amendment to ban it. Religious leadership need not accept such wisdom in counseling their flocks, but they should recognize this wisdom in their politics."

#6 From Obama's book, The Audacity of Hope: "I am not willing to have the state deny American citizens a civil union that confers equivalent rights on such basic matters as hospital visitation or health insurance coverage simply because the people they love are of the same sex—nor am I willing to accept a reading of the Bible that considers an obscure line in Romans to be more defining of Christianity than the Sermon on the Mount."

#7 "I find it hard to believe that my God would consign four-fifths of the world to hell.  I can't imagine that my God would allow some little Hindu kid in India who never interacts with the Christian faith to somehow burn for all eternity.  That's just not part of my religious makeup."

#8 "Those opposed to abortion cannot simply invoke God’s will--they have to explain why abortion violates some principle that is accessible to people of all faiths."

#9 On his support for civil unions for gay couples: "If people find that controversial then I would just refer them to the Sermon on the Mount."

#10 "I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people."
Do you notice a difference?

In the end, Barack Obama can believe whatever he wants to believe.

Everyone gets to make a choice.

But the American people should take note of how he regularly goes out of his way to treat Islam with the utmost respect while not doing the same for Christianity.

And as I have written about previously, the Christian faith is under assault in America like never before.

In our television shows and in our movies, Bible-believing Christians are almost never portrayed as the heroes.  Instead, they are almost always portrayed as villains or as crazy people.

It has become fashionable to treat Bible-believing Christians with blatant disrespect and we have been taught that we must push all expressions of the Christian faith out of public life.

If you are a public school student and you try to talk about Jesus with your fellow classmates there is a good chance that you will be suspended from school.

If you want to go out on a public sidewalk and discuss your faith with others, there is a good chance that you will be arrested.

If you are anti-abortion, if you have "radical theology" or if you are against "the New World Order", there is the possibility that you will be labeled as a "potential terrorist" by the Department of Homeland Security.

Can you see where all of this is headed?

If Barack Obama is going to apologize for burning Korans then he should also apologize for burning Bibles.

But that is not the way that Barack Obama does things and that is not the way that the U.S. government has done things for a very long time.

If you are a Bible-believing Christian, you need to start preparing for dark times because persecution is coming.  The world system that we live in does not like you, and the leap from blatant disrespect to violent repression is not as far as you might think.

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« Reply #6 on: February 29, 2012, 10:13:03 am »

Afghans: Quran-burning soldiers to face trial
Says NATO agreed to bring to justice 'those responsible for incident'


In a development that could chill the dedication of every soldier in the field, the U.S. government has refused to deny reports by the government of Afghanistan that NATO has agreed to have the soldiers who burned copies of the Quran face trial.

Last week, Afghan president Hamid Karzai demanded NATO turn over the U.S. troops to be tried in Afghanistan. President Obama subsequently sent a letter to Karzai reassuring him that the troops involved would be punished for their actions.

Part of the three-page letter to Karzai said, “I extend to you and the Afghan people my sincere apologies. We will take the appropriate steps to avoid any recurrence, to include holding accountable those responsible.”

It is unclear exactly what Obama meant by that statement as the White House has not released the full text of the letter. However, the Afghan government may have provided insight into its contents.

Over the weekend, the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan government media and information center website posted a joint statement by the delegations assigned to probe the Quran burning incident.

The statement says that two delegations were created to “investigate the circumstances and causes that have led to the inhumane incident.”

The statement listed several items, including a demand that the U.S. turn over the authority of the prison in Bagram to the Afghan government to ensure similar incidents do not recur and “calls on the U.S. government to fully and comprehensively cooperate to this end.”

However, the statement used vastly different language when discussing the fate of the U.S. soldiers involved in the incident.

“NATO officials promised to meet Afghan nation’s demand of bringing to justice, through an open trial, those responsible for the incident and it was agreed that the perpetrators of the crime be brought to justice as soon as possible,” the statement said.

The wording suggests members of the military could be handed over to an Afghan system that imposes Shariah-related penalties.

WND requests to both NATO and the Pentagon asking for confirmation of the statement by Afghan authorities were not returned.

Although the statements apparently were made by the Afghan government Feb. 25, they have received no mention in the mainstream media.

Clare Lopez, a senior fellow with the Center for Security Policy, said if the statement by the Afghan government turns out to be true, it would be an unprecedented betrayal of our men and women in uniform.

“I can’t imagine we would ever do this, what would we charge them with? Are we going to try Americans for crimes committed under Shariah law? I cannot believe our government would go that far,” she said.

Robert Spencer, founder of Jihad Watch, said it was fascinating that the U.S. government has not gotten out in front of this issue and denied the statement.

“The administration needs to clarify their stance on this. The longer they wait to deny this the more it has the opportunity to further inflame the Muslim in Afghanistan.”

Spencer said that whether the soldiers end up being turned over to the Afghan government or face court-martial, either decision would set a dangerous precedent.

“It would be unconscionable either way,” he said. “If they turn them over to the Afghan government for trial then we are endorsing the applicability of Shariah law to non-Muslims in the U.S. military. If they court-martial them then they are adopting those norms as part of the UCMJ. Either way it’s frightening.”

Lopez said that while U.S. officials have made large concessions to appease Muslims, turning the soldiers over to face trial would be over the line.

“If they were to allow our soldiers to be tried under a legal system that calls for the death penalty for destroying a Quran, that would be unthinkable,” she said.

She said that the silence on the part of U.S. officials has the potential to cause real damage to the morale of troops.

“When the government will not come out with a strong denial of this statement by the Afghan government it has the potential to cause our troops to wonder if the U.S. will truly stand behind and protect them when they are simply trying to do their job,” she said.

It appears that the soldiers may not have violated Islamic law at all by their burning of the Qurans.

In a PBS interview, Imam Jihad Turk, director of religious affairs at the Islamic Center of Southern California, said it was acceptable to burn the Quran if it was in a state of “disrepair.”

“When Muslims want to respectfully dispose of a text of the Quran that is no longer usable, we will burn it. So if someone, for example, in their own private collection or library had a text of the Quran that was damaged or that was in disrepair, so the binding was ruined, etc., or it got torn, they might bring it by to the Islamic Center and ask that someone here dispose of it properly if they were unsure how to do that,” Turk said. “And what I’ll do is I’ll take it to my fireplace at home and burn it there in the fireplace. So I sort of take the pages out and then burn it to make sure that it gets thoroughly charred and is no longer recognizable as script.”

Spencer added, “You are supposed to burn a Quran that is worn out and you are not to write in it. Do they have a problem with the burning of the Quran? No, they do it all the time.”

http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/afghans-quran-burning-soldiers-to-face-trial/
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2013, 10:52:09 am »

2/10/13

One of the FBI’s former top experts on Islam has announced that President Obama’s pick to head the Central Intelligence Agency, John Brennan, converted to Islam years ago in Saudi Arabia.
 
As WND has reported, former FBI Islam expert John Guandolo has long warned that the federal government is being infiltrated by members of the radical Muslim Brotherhood. But Guandolo now warns that by appointing Brennan to CIA director, Obama has not only chosen a man “naïve” to these infiltrations, but also picked a candidate who is himself a Muslim.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/02/shock-claim-obama-picks-muslim-for-cia-chief/#kpZDtOWicd34CRVx.99
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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2013, 05:15:30 am »

Careful with this one. Looks like WND and others have taken the conspiracy theory bait.

I did some searching, and I find no indication at all that Brennan is anything but a Fordham University Jesuit-trained Catholic. Not sure of the origin, but it looks like this is pure propaganda by opponents of Brennan and Obama.
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20 Obama Quotes About Islam Contrasted With 20 Obama Quotes About Christianity

You are about to read some of the most shocking quotes that Barack Obama has ever uttered in public.  A few of these have been widely circulated, but most of them are very obscure.  Even though he claims to be a Christian, throughout his political career Obama has repeatedly attacked traditional Biblical Christianity and he has a very long history of anti-Christian actions.  In public speeches he has repeatedly cast doubt on the Bible, he has repeatedly stated that he does not believe that Jesus is necessary for salvation, and he has consistently said that he believes that all “people of faith” believe in the same God.  At the same time, Obama has always referred to Muhammed as “the Prophet”, he has always expressed great love and respect for Islam, and he has even removed all references to Islam from terror training materials used by federal government agencies.  So what in the world does “the leader of the free world” actually believe?  Read the quotes below and decide for yourself…
 
20 Quotes By Barack Obama About Islam
 
#1 “The future must not belong to those who slander the Prophet of Islam”
 
#2 “The sweetest sound I know is the Muslim call to prayer”
 
#3 “We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over the centuries to shape the world — including in my own country.”
 
#4 “As a student of history, I also know civilization’s debt to Islam.”
 
#5 “Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance.”
 
#6 “Islam has always been part of America”
 
#7 “we will encourage more Americans to study in Muslim communities”
 
#8 “These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings.”
 
#9 “America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles of justice and progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.”
 
#10 “I made clear that America is not – and never will be – at war with Islam.”
 
#11 “Islam is not part of the problem in combating violent extremism – it is an important part of promoting peace.”
 
#12 “So I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed”
 
#13 “In ancient times and in our times, Muslim communities have been at the forefront of innovation and education.”
 
#14 “throughout history, Islam has demonstrated through words and deeds the possibilities of religious tolerance and racial equality.”
 
#15 “Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity and racial equality”
 
#16 “The Holy Koran tells us, ‘O mankind! We have created you male and a female; and we have made you into nations and tribes so that you may know one another.’”
 
#17 “I look forward to hosting an Iftar dinner celebrating Ramadan here at the White House later this week, and wish you a blessed month.”
 
#18 “We’ve seen those results in generations of Muslim immigrants – farmers and factory workers, helping to lay the railroads and build our cities, the Muslim innovators who helped build some of our highest skyscrapers and who helped unlock the secrets of our universe.”
 
#19 “That experience guides my conviction that partnership between America and Islam must be based on what Islam is, not what it isn’t. And I consider it part of my responsibility as president of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.”
 
#20 “I also know that Islam has always been a part of America’s story.”
 
20 Quotes By Barack Obama About Christianity
 
#1 “Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation”
 
#2 “We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation.”
 
#3 “Which passages of scripture should guide our public policy?  Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is OK and that eating shellfish is an abomination?  Or we could go with Deuteronomy, which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith?”
 
#4 “Even those who claim the Bible’s inerrancy make distinctions between Scriptural edicts, sensing that some passages – the Ten Commandments, say, or a belief in Christ’s divinity – are central to Christian faith, while others are more culturally specific and may be modified to accommodate modern life.”
 
#5 “The American people intuitively understand this, which is why the majority of Catholics practice birth control and some of those opposed to gay marriage nevertheless are opposed to a Constitutional amendment to ban it. Religious leadership need not accept such wisdom in counseling their flocks, but they should recognize this wisdom in their politics.”
 
#6 From Obama’s book, The Audacity of Hope: “I am not willing to have the state deny American citizens a civil union that confers equivalent rights on such basic matters as hospital visitation or health insurance coverage simply because the people they love are of the same sex—nor am I willing to accept a reading of the Bible that considers an obscure line in Romans to be more defining of Christianity than the Sermon on the Mount.”
 
#7 Obama’s response when asked what his definition of sin is: “Being out of alignment with my values.”
 
#8 “If all it took was someone proclaiming I believe Jesus Christ and that he died for my sins, and that was all there was to it, people wouldn’t have to keep coming to church, would they.”
 
#9 “This is something that I’m sure I’d have serious debates with my fellow Christians about. I think that the difficult thing about any religion, including Christianity, is that at some level there is a call to evangelize and prostelytize. There’s the belief, certainly in some quarters, that people haven’t embraced Jesus Christ as their personal savior that they’re going to hell.”
 
#10 “I find it hard to believe that my God would consign four-fifths of the world to hell.  I can’t imagine that my God would allow some little Hindu kid in India who never interacts with the Christian faith to somehow burn for all eternity.  That’s just not part of my religious makeup.”
 
#11 “I don’t presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die. But I feel very strongly that whether the reward is in the here and now or in the hereafter, the aligning myself to my faith and my values is a good thing.”
 
#12 “I’ve said this before, and I know this raises questions in the minds of some evangelicals. I do not believe that my mother, who never formally embraced Christianity as far as I know … I do not believe she went to hell.”
 
#13 “Those opposed to abortion cannot simply invoke God’s will–they have to explain why abortion violates some principle that is accessible to people of all faiths.”
 
#14 On his support for civil unions for gay couples: “If people find that controversial then I would just refer them to the Sermon on the Mount.”
 
#15 “You got into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
 
#16 “In our household, the Bible, the Koran and the Bhagavad Gita sat on the shelf alongside books of Greek and Norse and African mythology”
 
#17 “On Easter or Christmas Day, my mother might drag me to church, just as she dragged me to the Buddhist temple, the Chinese New Year celebration, the Shinto shrine, and ancient Hawaiian burial sites.”
 
#18 “we have Jews, Muslims, Hindus, atheists, agnostics, Buddhists, and their own path to grace is one that we have to revere and respect as much as our own”
 
#19 “All of us have a responsibility to work for the day when the mothers of Israelis and Palestinians can see their children grow up without fear; when the Holy Land of the three great faiths is the place of peace that God intended it to be; when Jerusalem is a secure and lasting home for Jews and Christians and Muslims, and a place for all of the children of Abraham to mingle peacefully together as in the story of Isra — (applause) — as in the story of Isra, when Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed, peace be upon them, joined in prayer.  (Applause.)”
 
#20 “I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.”

http://thetruthwins.com/archives/20-obama-quotes-about-islam-contrasted-with-20-obama-quotes-about-christianity
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« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2013, 11:35:22 am »

This Famous Atheist is ‘Sure’ Obama is Also an Atheist

Author and world-renowned biologist Richard Dawkins said Friday he is confident that President Barack Obama is an atheist.
 
“Like many people, I’m sure that Obama is an atheist,” Dawkins said. “I’m sure Kennedy was an atheist.”
 
The comments were made on talk show host Bill Maher’s “Real Time” HBO program before a live studio audience. Maher is also an atheist.

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Considering the way Islam is okay with lying to infidels, I can see Obama lying about being Muslim. However, I don't recall ever encountering an atheist that would even consider claiming they had some type religion. To the atheist, religion is at best stupid. I see no indication that an atheist would feign a religious belief, as they are always very outspoken against religion of any type. There are plenty of government officials that are open atheists. They have no need to hide anything, whereas Islam does because Islam's intent is to rule the world under Sharia law, and that obviously conflicts with current government structures around the world.
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Considering the way Islam is okay with lying to infidels, I can see Obama lying about being Muslim. However, I don't recall ever encountering an atheist that would even consider claiming they had some type religion. To the atheist, religion is at best stupid. I see no indication that an atheist would feign a religious belief, as they are always very outspoken against religion of any type. There are plenty of government officials that are open atheists. They have no need to hide anything, whereas Islam does because Islam's intent is to rule the world under Sharia law, and that obviously conflicts with current government structures around the world.

i dont know, atheists today sure are taking on a lot of the trappings of religion.
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Considering the way Islam is okay with lying to infidels, I can see Obama lying about being Muslim. However, I don't recall ever encountering an atheist that would even consider claiming they had some type religion. To the atheist, religion is at best stupid. I see no indication that an atheist would feign a religious belief, as they are always very outspoken against religion of any type. There are plenty of government officials that are open atheists. They have no need to hide anything, whereas Islam does because Islam's intent is to rule the world under Sharia law, and that obviously conflicts with current government structures around the world.

Athiests worship themselves - which is pretty much the lie from way back that came out of the Garden of Eden, "ye shall be as gods...".
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Obama Homeland Security advisor Mohamed Elibiary: “United States of America Is An Islamic Country"



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Obama appointee, Homeland Security Advisory Council member and Muslim Brotherhood supporter Mohamed Elibiary is a Muslim Brotherhood zealot actively promoting the islamic supremacist agenda. He used his new federal security clearance to access a sensitive database and download state and local intelligence reports on the Texas Department of Public Safety and sell them to mainstream media outlets to smear Texas Gov. Rick Perry as an islamophobe and racist.
 
Instead of being fired at the time, Elibiary was just given ..... a promotion.
 
Despite exposing these Muslim Brotherhood operatives at Atlas as early as 2010 here (even an Egyptian magazine did a bombshell article on Muslim Brotherhood infiltration in the Obama administration in January 2013 as well), the Obama administration continued to appoint enemy operatives to key posts.

Muslim Brotherhood operatives have direct access to the White House. Arif Alikhan, assistant secretary of Homeland Security for policy development; Mohammed Elibiary, a member of the Homeland Security Advisory Council; Rashad Hussain, the U.S. special envoy to the Organization of the Islamic Conference; Salam al-Marayati, co-founder of the Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC); Imam Mohamed Magid, president of the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA); and Eboo Patel, a member of President Obama's Advisory Council on Faith-Based Neighborhood Partnerships.

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Outrage over Obama Omitting 'Under God' from Gettysburg Address

Many Americans are offended that on Tuesday, President Obama recited a version of the Gettysburg Address that omitted the phrase “under God” for a celebrity project created by progressive documentarian Ken Burns.
 
Some Americans like Bryan Fischer, a conservative Christian leader, say "Obama's omission of 'under God' is more evidence of his anti-Christian bigotry. He honors Islam but disrespects Christianity."
 
When Lincoln gave the speech overlooking the battlefield and the cemetery being dedicated to the fallen soldiers at Gettysburg, he promised that “this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom.” The version of the speech that contains these words is inscribed at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, D.C. It was this same version recited in Gettysburg, PA on Tuesday that impelled thousands to travel from across the nation and the world to hear.
 
Obama, already under fire for shunning the 150th Anniversary celebration of the occasion at Gettysburg (the trip is about a 20 minute helicopter flight from the White House), was defended by Jay Carney, Obama’s White House Press Secretary. Carney maneuvered by claiming, "He read the version of the address that Ken Burns provided.” Carney added that Burns is a “noted Civil War scholar.”
 
Ken Burns is also a well known left leaning proselytizer, and his documentaries are populated by the most liberal celebrities that Hollywood has to offer. Often called upon for his projects are Morgan Freeman, Tom Hanks, Samuel L. Jackson, Gwyneth Paltrow, and other openly leftist celebrities.
 
Burns has made overt and veiled references to Tea Party supporters and conservatives as racists. Talking about race and modern politics during an appearance on Meet the Press, he asked rhetorically, "Do you think we'd have a secession movement in Texas and in other places... if this president wasn't African American?" Burns also insists that racism was at the heart of the failure to nominate Susan Rice as Secretary of State. Burns did not consider it material that she blatantly lied to the American people during the aftermath of the Benghazi terrorist attacks.

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Muslims Kill Dozens of Christians On Christmas Day & White House Remains Silent

Anytime anything happens to Muslims, especially at the hands of Americans, our so-called Christian President Barack Hussein Obama is quick to condemn the actions.  He’ll issue public apologies to Muslims worldwide and demand that the Americans responsible be punished to the fullest extent possible.
 
Anytime anything happens to Christians, regardless of who is responsible, Hussein Obama sits back at the White House enjoying a beer with his Muslim and socialists buddies and says nothing.
 
An example was when US soldiers collected Bible and Korans that had been torn up and defaced by prisoners.  Since the holy books had been destroyed, mostly by Muslim prisoners, the soldiers burned both, Bibles and Korans.  Yet the whole world only heard about US soldiers burning Korans.  The mainstream media never said anything about the Bibles or that the Korans had already been destroyed by Muslim prisoners.  Hussein Obama immediately took to the airwaves apologizing to the entire Muslim world for the insensitivity of the US soldiers.  He told the world that the soldiers would be punished for their actions.  Obama never said a word about the Bibles that had been defaced and ripped up by the Muslim prisoners and then burned with the Korans.
 
So should it be any surprise that Hussein Obama remained silent about the Christmas Day bombings in Baghdad that targeted Christians?
 
Muslims were responsible for three different bombings in Iraq’s capital city.  Reports have varied but it seems that at least 37 people were killed and at least 59 or more people were injured in the attacks.  The worst of the bombings took place when a car bomb exploded near a Christian church in the Dora neighborhood of Baghdad.  26 died and 38 were wounded in this attack.  Also on Christmas Day, two explosions happened simultaneously at an outdoor market in the Christian area of Athorien, killing 11 more people and wounding 21 more.
 



In the past twenty years, the Christian population in Iraq has gone from being over a million to less than half a million.  Iraqi Muslims have been systematically persecuting the countries Christians yet the US government and State Department says nothing to condemn it.
 
I've been told that I cannot say outright that Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim since he has not admitted he is, so I won’t say it outright.  But if someone walks like a Muslim, sounds like a Muslim, acts like a Muslim and sides with Muslims over Christians, then one would be inclined to think of that person as a Muslim.  I’ve yet to see Obama side with Christians over Muslims, but he has repeatedly sided with Muslims over Christians.  Draw your own conclusion as I have drawn mine.
 
In Matthew 7:15-20, we read the words of Jesus, who said:
 

"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will recognize them by their fruits.”
 
Taking heed of Jesus’ words, I see no Christian fruit from Obama’s tree, but I do see plenty of Muslim fruit along with socialist fruit.  Obama’s tree would not qualify as a healthy tree bearing good fruit and therefore should be cut down, or at least removed from the White House grounds and thrown into the fire.

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President Obama is remaking America in his own image, and that image is a homosexual one. He’s got a lot of help from the media, the entertainment industry, and the courts. He purposely sent “a delegation of prominent gay athletes, including the tennis champion Billie Jean King, to represent the United States at the Winter Olympicis...

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Given over to a reprobate mind a long time ago...
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« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2014, 07:48:57 pm »

See, maybe it's just me, but I don't think Obama is a Muslim. Michelle doesn't wear a burqa or a hijab and she's one of the most unsubmissive women I can think of (Hitlary still tops the list), he's a homosexual (Muslims torture and kill homosexuals and are given no bad press. Christians simply say they must repent or end up in hell, and they are the most evil group in the world...), etc.

I'm sure he uses the whole "I'm a Muslim" thing at different points for different reasons, but as far as I can tell, he's a downright Luciferian, imo.
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Obama IS NOT the Antichrist, so don't even go there, again.

He's not "Luciferian" either. That's just silly.

ALL indications, other than the words out of his own mouth, say that he is in fact a Muslim. How his wife dresses is irrelevant. He's in a position of international elite power. Those dress rules, and many other Islamic rules, don't apply to him or any other prominent Muslim.

Consider also that he can be Muslim and be married to a non-Muslim. And also don't make the mistake in thinking because he's not openly active, he's not Muslim. THAT would be a mistake! Muslims are allowed, and at times, encouraged to lie about their Islamic faith.

Being Muslim, or at least a big supporter, doesn't mean he can't be gay. It would explain why he married such a monster of an ugly woman. Something else brought those two together I think. I don't think it was a romantic reason. He either was so radical and strange to the average woman, she was all he could get, or, it was a set up cover relationship from the start.

Seeing Obama appears from many indications to be a CIA boy, I'd side with the marriage to be a sham, and that he is in fact maybe not totally gay, but at the least bisexual.

And yes, I agree, Obama does use to his own ends the Muslim angle. More so than he ever has the churchianity angle.
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Obama IS NOT the Antichrist, so don't even go there, again.

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Obama IS NOT the Antichrist, so don't even go there, again.

Don't believe it. Never said it. Don't know why you brought it up.

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He's not "Luciferian" either. That's just silly.

Why is that silly?

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ALL indications, other than the words out of his own mouth, say that he is in fact a Muslim. How his wife dresses is irrelevant. He's in a position of international elite power. Those dress rules, and many other Islamic rules, don't apply to him or any other prominent Muslim.

Islam teaches that even one hair showing on a woman is a dagger in their god's eye. No believing Muslim would have his wife go out without at least a hijab. Just wouldn't happen.

Just because he supports radical Islam doesn't mean he's Islamic. He can say he's a Muslim or say he's a Christian all he wants, but from what I see, he's a member of the freemasonic religion, which is Luciferianism.
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Just because he supports radical Islam doesn't mean he's Islamic. He can say he's a Muslim or say he's a Christian all he wants, but from what I see, he's a member of the freemasonic religion, which is Luciferianism.

He's a 32nd Degree Prince Hall Freemason(the PH ones are for blacks - Jesse Jackson is also a member, and I think Thurgood Marshall was too).

With that being said - can't say I know all of the details, nor know if I've right about them, but nonetheless 1) That 2004 remake of "The Manchurian Candidate" served as predictive programming(Obama is just that), and 2) Obama is definitely pushing the Islam agenda unlike other previous Presidents. Yes, Reagan, Bushes, and Clinton did, but not like Obama is doing now.

And then we're seeing Churchianity like Rick Warren and Bill Hybels pushing Islam like never before.

Also Freemasonic lodges have the Koran at their "alters".
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Obama IS NOT the Antichrist, so don't even go there, again.

who said that?

I did.

Maybe I should have worded it more charitably, but we've been through that discussion before at length. He's not the Antichrist. Nothing indicates he is other than some people's opinions.

If your asking who is saying that he is, I'm responding to the post by FervorForFaith in which he is called "Luciferian". I took that to suggest the Antichrist theory. Typically, those who call him that are also saying it's the basis for him being the Antichrist. I disagree.

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He's not "Luciferian" either. That's just silly.

Why is that silly?

Again, I tend to use that kind of reply in bad habit. My apologies. Poor choice of words that I really do want to stop doing. Not very edifying.

I just find it humorous that these type theories keep bouncing around, usually in the anti-government/conspiracy theory crowds. And churchianity "news" outlets like WND just love these type stories.

It's as if people refuse to believe the current situation is not about evil secret societies nor false churches, it's about the love of money, nothing more. Prove me wrong.

Jesus already told us there would be false prophets and people doing evil things in secret, tha the "spirit of antichrist" is already in the world. That's not news among believers. Yet the common focus is on just that, while ignoring as a result of misdirection the real focus, which is that all that is going on is a spiritual war, not a battle between carnal worldly organizations run by men. It's about what? "Spiritual wickedness in high place", fueled by what? "The love of money..."

Those people are not motivated by being in some secret society. All that stuff is just as much a misdirection and an illusion as the false churchianity "denominations". It's two sides of the same coin. And just who's image and superscription is on that coin? "Behold, I have told you before".

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« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2014, 03:51:23 pm »

Quote from: Kilika on February 20, 2014, 01:54:45 am
I did.

Maybe I should have worded it more charitably, but we've been through that discussion before at length. He's not the Antichrist. Nothing indicates he is other than some people's opinions.

If your asking who is saying that he is, I'm responding to the post by FervorForFaith in which he is called "Luciferian". I took that to suggest the Antichrist theory. Typically, those who call him that are also saying it's the basis for him being the Antichrist. I disagree.

I actually made an hour long video debunking the notion that Obama is the Antichrist. I haven't uploaded it to YouTube (not sure if I can, last time I checked you can only upload videos less than 15 minutes unless you have a certain status with YouTube. Don't know if that rule has changed) but I tried to hit every single claim that is made about the subject.

The thing is: anyone that is a freemason is technically a Luciferian, from degree 1 all the way up to 33. But being a Luciferian doesn't make you the Antichrist. That's an incredibly ridiculous notion.

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It's as if people refuse to believe the current situation is not about evil secret societies nor false churches, it's about the love of money, nothing more. Prove me wrong.

This is what the current (and future) situation is all about:

Isaiah 14:12-14 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

For the people being used as pawns (the Rockefellers, Rothschilds, UN, CFR, etc.)? Yeah, it's probably about the money and power. For Satan himself? Look no further than Isaiah 14:12-14.

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Those people are not motivated by being in some secret society. All that stuff is just as much a misdirection and an illusion as the false churchianity "denominations". It's two sides of the same coin. And just who's image and superscription is on that coin? "Behold, I have told you before".

Agree. There are so many layers to this phony world system. So much controlled opposition.

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By the grace of God, "think on these things..."

Indeed.
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« Reply #28 on: February 23, 2014, 04:13:16 pm »

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actually made an hour long video debunking the notion that Obama is the Antichrist. I haven't uploaded it to YouTube (not sure if I can, last time I checked you can only upload videos less than 15 minutes unless you have a certain status with YouTube. Don't know if that rule has changed) but I tried to hit every single claim that is made about the subject.

You can split it up into 4 15 minute parts, FYI.
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« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2014, 01:11:10 pm »

Obama: Muslims Built 'The Very Fabric of Our Nation'

On Sunday, President Obama and First Lady Michelle released a statement thanking Muslim Americans for their many “achievements and contributions… to building the very fabric of our nation and strengthening the core of our democracy.”

The comments were made to mark the celebration of Eid-al-Fitr, a time of spiritual renewal for Muslims which comes at the end of the month-long fast of Ramadan. The Obamas said in their statement that Eid “celebrates the common values that unite us in our humanity” and “welcomed their commitment to giving back to their communities.” The International Business Times reports that during Eid, Muslims join in Islamic prayer, while saying "Allahu Akbar," or "God is Great," and feasting.

The statement further reads that the administration “wishes Muslims in the United States and around the world a blessed and joyous celebration.” The letter ended with salutation of “Eid Mubarak,” which roughly means “blessed celebration.”

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/07/28/Obama-Celebrates-Muslim-Contributions-to-the-USA
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