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March 27, 2024, 12:55:24 pm Mark says: Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked  When Hamas spokesman Abu Ubaida began a speech marking the 100th day of the war in Gaza, one confounding yet eye-opening proclamation escaped the headlines. Listing the motives for the Palestinian militant group's Oct. 7 massacre in Israel, he accused Jews of "bringing red cows" to the Holy Land.
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September 24, 2017, 10:45:16 pm Psalm 51:17 says: The specific rule pertaining to the national anthem is found on pages A62-63 of the league rulebook. It states: “The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem. “During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.”
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September 14, 2017, 08:06:04 am Psalm 51:17 says: bro Mark Hunter on YT has some good, edifying stuff too.
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Kilika
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« Reply #60 on: March 04, 2014, 12:11:19 pm »

Yeah, it does make some sense. Thanks!  Wink

I see what your saying, that the verse actually mentions an interaction with the "vile person"(commonly thought to be a reference to the Antichrist) and "they"(I would say the "elite", the people in charge), "...they shall not give the honour...".

"...yea, also the prince of the covenant..." is indeed a reference to a third party. The question is, who is that "prince"? Is this a real person involved in the deal, or is it just a metaphor for the depth the action has in Israel making a deal against the true prince, Jesus Christ, to drive home the seriousness of such a deal.

The main issue I have so far with using Daniel in relation to end times prophecy is that like in chapter 11, it's talking about a series of rulers, and eventually it's about the rule of the "king of the north" over a southern king, and a covenant. Chapter 12 is a continuation of events, yet  at that point, it does appear to be talking about THE end in verses 1-4, but it says to "seal it up" until the end, then only mentions a time period but not really anything else.

My perception is that it's primarily a historical account of events in the time of Daniel, like "Cliff Notes", ending with saying basically there are more details that COULD be given, but suffice to say there will be more battles back and forth right up to the bitter end for the world, so no need to divulge any more details, so it gets sealed up from then till the final end. It comes across as Daniel is told some details, but not much else and is more or less told not to worry about the rest, that in the end it will all come together like it's suppose to.

Can you read the book of Daniel as an end times prophecy? In part, I think so. There appears to me to be many references that are too similar to just be a similarity. But then evil is evil, right? So we see similarities among evil people throughout scripture. Same unbelief, different people in different times.

Does that make sense?  Wink
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