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« on: May 01, 2013, 02:38:57 pm »

Catholic church excommunicates Brazil priest for liberal views

But hides ped0philes and keeps Nancy Pelosi....  Roll Eyes


The Catholic Church has excommunicated a Brazilian priest after he defended homosexuality, open marriage and other practices counter to Church teaching in online videos.
 
In a statement released late on Monday, the priest's diocese said Father Roberto Francisco Daniel, known to local parishioners as Padre Beto, had "in the name of 'freedom of expression' betrayed the promise of fealty to the Church."

The priest "injured the Church with grave statements counter to the dogma of Catholic faith and morality." The actions amount to "heresy and schism," the statement said, the penalty for which is excommunication, or expulsion from the Church.

The rare punishment follows what Daniel's bishop and the priest himself said were repeated rebukes about the videos and other public activities, such as a radio broadcast and local newspaper column, in which he challenged Church doctrine.

The 47-year-old cleric, who studied theology in Germany, is popular in the southeastern city of Bauru, where he has been a priest since 2001. He is known for his rock T-shirts, a silver stud pierced through his right ear and his habit of posing, as on his official Facebook page, with a glass of beer.

On Facebook and Twitter, Daniel posted a brief statement about the excommunication: "I feel honored to belong to the long list of people who have been murdered and burned alive for thinking and searching for knowledge."

SPREAD OF MODERATE VIEWS

Daniel's excommunication, which prompted headlines across Brazil and protests in social media, illustrates the rising influence of more moderate social views in Brazil, Latin America's biggest country, and much of the rest of the region.

Progressive stances on sexuality, birth control, scientific research and other delicate topics for the Church are increasingly common in Latin America, home to 42 percent of the world's Catholics, more than any other region worldwide.

The shifting views are among the many challenges faced by Pope Francis, an Argentine who ascended in March to become the first Latin American pope in history.

The excommunication comes just two months before Francis is scheduled to attend World Youth Day, expected to attract as many as 2 million young Catholics to Rio de Janeiro.

Though Francis is known to be a traditionalist on social issues and Church doctrine, his appointment raised hopes that the first non-European pope in 13 centuries would do more than his predecessors to modernize Catholicism.

But Daniel's beliefs clearly went too far for church leaders.

In one of the recent videos he posted on YouTube.com and his own Website, the priest said a married person who chose to have an affair, heterosexual or otherwise, would not be unfaithful as long as that person's spouse allowed it. "If someone is in an extramarital relationship and that relationship is accepted by the spouse, then faithfulness still exists there," he said.

A "REBEL SON"

In a telephone interview, Daniel said his statements "are personal reflections that should be considered and discussed in the dialogue of the church." The excommunication, he said, is "the sad act of a lukewarm and disengaged church that is out of touch with today's society."

The diocese retained a church expert in canonical law to oversee the excommunication process. The diocese also initiated a separate process at the Vatican through which Daniel will be stripped of clerical authority.

Last Tuesday, Bishop Caetano Ferrari gave Daniel a letter asking him to take the videos offline and publicly retract his statements. In an interview posted on the diocese Web site shortly afterward, Ferrari called Daniel "brilliant," but characterized him as a "rebel son" who "crosses the line."

On Monday, Daniel said he went to the diocese headquarters planning to renounce his clerical duties rather than retract any of his comments. But before he had a chance, the bishop and canonical expert made him face a committee of Church officials.

"It was a trial," Daniel said. "I told them I was not there to be tried, that I had not been indicted."

Shortly afterward, the Church issued the statement announcing his excommunication.

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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2013, 06:25:56 am »

REP. PAUL RYAN NOW SUPPORTS GAY ADOPTION

According to USA Today 2012 GOP Vice Presidential candidate Paul Ryan, a Roman Catholic, has chosen to ignore church teaching that homosexuality is a sin against God and now approves of homosexual couples adopting children. “Asked at a town-hall-style meeting Monday in Wisconsin about the issue, Ryan said he would “vote differently these days” and still opposes gay marriage. In 1999, the congressman voted in favor of banning same-sex couples in the District of Columbia from adopting.”

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Bet they do not excommunicate him  Roll Eyes
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REP. PAUL RYAN NOW SUPPORTS GAY ADOPTION

According to USA Today 2012 GOP Vice Presidential candidate Paul Ryan, a Roman Catholic, has chosen to ignore church teaching that homosexuality is a sin against God and now approves of homosexual couples adopting children. “Asked at a town-hall-style meeting Monday in Wisconsin about the issue, Ryan said he would “vote differently these days” and still opposes gay marriage. In 1999, the congressman voted in favor of banning same-sex couples in the District of Columbia from adopting.”

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Bet they do not excommunicate him  Roll Eyes

Yeah, was wondering the same thing...
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« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2013, 07:09:08 am »

Catholic bishops in U.S. urged to deny communion to pro-aborts


A pro-life organization is hopeful the Vatican will address communion issues within the Catholic Church in America.

In late March, Pope Francis sent a letter to his former bishops in Argentina instructing them to follow church teachings and deny communion to those who support abortion, euthanasia, and crimes against the family. "This responsibility weighs particularly over legislators, heads of governments, and health professionals," said the letter.

Judie Brown of American Life League (ALL) suggests sending a similar directive to American bishops, "encouraging them to reflect on the words of the pope and to, in fact, enforce Canon Law 915 in this country so that pro-abortionists in public life who claim to be Catholic can no longer receive Holy Communion because they will be denied the sacrament."

In a letter to all U.S. Catholic bishops, Brown urges that they deny the sacrament to every pro-abortion Catholic in public life "who has not repented of his support for the heinous crime of abortion." Michael Hichborn, director of Defend the Faith for ALL, co-signed the letter to the American bishops.

According to the longtime pro-life activist, if church laws are not enforced, the leadership develops a mentality that it is acceptable to break them.

"There have been a few bishops in the United States, I believe there are 12 of them, who have said they would deny communion," Brown tells OneNewsNow. "But when you have a majority of bishops - in fact a vast majority, more than 190 - who will not enforce the law, then the bishops make a mockery of the sacrament of Eucharist. And of course, pro-abortion politicians in particular take advantage of that at every turn."

Brown will soon travel to the Vatican in part to ask Pope Francis to take similar action in America.

"The Word of God is so clear and it just seems to me that when people try to confuse it, they get in an awful lot of trouble - not only in this life, but we all know that eternally there's a price to be paid," states the ALL founder.

 - See more at: http://www.onenewsnow.com/church/2013/05/10/catholic-bishops-in-us-urged-to-deny-communion-to-pro-aborts#sthash.HNJaQmuk.dpuf
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Hey Francis!! Why dont you start with this witch?

Nancy Pelosi on Abortion: Catholic Church’s ‘Conscience Thing’ Puts Women at Physical Risk
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Priests Demand Pelosi Renounce Catholicism After Abortion is “Sacred Ground” Comment

House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi’s comments that defending late-term abortions is “sacred ground” to her was apparently the last straw for a national organization of Catholic priests active in pro-life work.
 
“As a practicing and respectful Catholic, this is sacred ground to me when we talk about this. I don’t think it should have anything to do with politics,” she continued saying about the bill to ban late-term abortions after 20 weeks.
 
In an open letter to Pelosi, Priests for Life says her comments make a “mockery of the Catholic faith.”
 
“With this statement, you make a mockery of the Catholic faith and of the tens of millions of Americans who consider themselves “practicing and respectful Catholics” and who find the killing of children — whether inside or outside the womb — reprehensible,” the letter says.
 
“You speak here of Catholic faith as if it is supposed to hide us from reality instead of lead us to face reality, as if it is supposed to confuse basic moral truths instead of clarify them, and as if it is supposed to help us escape the hard moral questions of life rather than help us confront them,” Father Frank Pavone continues in the letter. “Whatever Catholic faith you claim to respect and practice, it is not the faith that the Catholic Church teaches. And I speak for countless Catholics when I say that it’s time for you to stop speaking as if it were.”
 
“Abortion is not sacred ground; it is sacrilegious ground. To imagine God giving the slightest approval to an act that dismembers a child he created is offensive to both faith and reason,” the letter adds. “And to say that a question about the difference between a legal medical procedure and murder should not “have anything to do with politics” reveals a profound failure to understand your own political responsibilities, which start with the duty to secure the God-given right to life of every citizen.”
 
The letter from Pavone concludes: “Mrs. Pelosi, for decades you have gotten away with betraying and misrepresenting the Catholic faith as well as the responsibilities of public office. We have had enough of it. Either exercise your duties as a public servant and a Catholic, or have the honesty to formally renounce them.”
 
During the press conference, in response to a reporter’s question, Pelosi was upset to be asked about the gruesome abortions and infanticides done by Kermit Gosnell and indicated she opposes the bill the House approved to ban abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy. Pelosi falsely called the bill a ban on all abortions.
 
“They would make it a federal law that there would be no abortion in our country,” Pelosi said.
 
Maureen Ferguson, Senior Policy Advisor for The Catholic Association, blasted Pelosi’s comments in an email to LifeNews:
 
“After witnessing firsthand the atrocious human rights abuses taking place inside America’s late-term abortion clinics it is amazing that this did not touch Nancy Pelosi’s heart. What we learned from the Gosnell trial and what we understand is going on inside other clinics is not only human rights abuse but it also puts women in harm’s way. The only difference between the Gosnell ‘after-birth’ abortions and legal late-term abortions is the location of the baby at the time of death. And contrary to Pelosi’s extreme claim that the Franks bill is ‘disrespectful’ to women, the majority of women are opposed to late-term abortions according to a recent Gallup poll.”

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Bet Frank blows it again on this witch
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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2013, 07:55:29 am »

Or how about John Roberts and Samuel Alito? Both of these justices have pro-abortion records too(and when they were put up for nomination, both said Roe V Wade is the law of the land).

Contrary to popular belief, U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts is not pro-life and rejects the unborn child's right to life. Roberts therefore makes himself an enemy of the unborn child.
http://prolifeprofiles.com/john-roberts-and-abortion

A brief catalog of Samuel Alito's abortion-related rulings as a federal judge, with links to the full-text of his actual opinions, shows, contrary to the claim of prominent pro-life leaders, that Justice Alito repeatedly sides with the pro-abortion industry, not only ruling as one would expect from a typical "pro-choice" judge, but issuing opinions as expected from an abortion extremist.
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Pelosi laughs off priest’s letter challenging abortion views, says he ‘was acting hysterically’

Come on Frank!!! Take a stand and excommunicate this witch

Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has laughed off a starkly worded letter from Priests for Life Founder Fr. Frank Pavone, challenging the self-professed Catholic congresswoman to discard her strongly pro-abortion views.
 
In an interview with Think Progress, Pelosi said she thought Fr. Pavone was being "hysterical," saying, "The arrogance of it all! It’s like something ancient, medieval." She also said that while she understands what the Catholic Church teaches on abortion, "my faith isn't about what their position is."
 
Fr. Pavone wrote the letter in response to Pelosi's recent comments describing the issue of late-term abortion as "sacred ground." She made the remarks in response to a question from a reporter about the late-term abortion ban that was recently passed in the House.
 
During the exchange the congresswoman also described herself as a "practicing and respectful Catholic," but expressed her opposition to the bill, saying, "This shouldn't have anything to do with politics."
 
In his letter, Pavone had written: "Mrs. Pelosi, for decades you have gotten away with betraying and misrepresenting the Catholic faith as well as the responsibilities of public office. We have had enough of it. Either exercise your duties as a public servant and a Catholic, or have the honesty to formally renounce them."
 
In the interview with ThinkProress, Pelosi insisted, "My faith is very deep and has been my whole life. I love my faith and my faith has nothing to do with whoever he [Father Frank Pavone] is."
 
She added, "The Church taught me as I was growing up that every person has a free will and has the responsibility to live up to a moral standard. And I respect women’s judgment and values to do that. Whether this priest thinks his judgment should be another woman’s judgment is absolutely ridiculous to me. But nonetheless it’s what they say."
 
She said that rather than what the Catholic Church teaches, her faith is "is about, Christ is my savior, the church is his church, and has nothing to do with Priests for Life…"
 
She concluded saying she "wouldn't even dignify" what Fr. Pavone wrote in his letter. "It was a highly emotional statement that they made. If it were more intellectual I might have paid attention to it. He was acting hysterically."

Fr. Pavone had accused Pelosi of making "a mockery of the Catholic faith and of the tens of millions of Americans who consider themselves 'practicing and respectful Catholics' and who find the killing of children -- whether inside or outside the womb -- reprehensible."
 
"Whatever Catholic faith you claim to respect and practice, it is not the faith that the Catholic Church teaches," he wrote. "And I speak for countless Catholics when I say that it's time for you to stop speaking as if it were."

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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2013, 08:15:20 am »

Aren't there 6 Roman Catholics on the USSC?

Just saying, Frank.
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« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2013, 08:24:57 am »

How about this one Frank?? Just when does one get to be excommunicated?

WATCH: Nancy Pelosi wearily dismisses Michele Bachmann's DOMA statement

In the aftermath of today's historic Supreme Court decision to strike down the controversial Defense of Marriage Act, Rep. Michelle Bachmann (R-Minn.) issued a statement on the matter:
 
"No man, not even a Supreme Court, can undo what a holy God has instituted," Ms. Bachmann said in a statement. "For thousands of years of recorded human history, no society has defended the legal standard of marriage as anything other than between man and woman." She said the court action "will undermine the best interest of children and the best interests of the United States." [MediaIte]
 
During a press conference on the high court's decision later in the day, a member of the audience asked House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) for her thoughts on Bachmann's statement. As you can see above, Pelosi responded with a weary, "Who cares?" Then she laughed.



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« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2013, 11:49:02 am »

And Scalia, Roberts, and Anthony Kennedy are also Catholics who voted to strike down DOMA and CA's Prop 8 - yeah Frank, shouldn't you be excommunicating them too? Roll Eyes
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« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2013, 12:27:34 pm »

Is she even listed as a member of any diocese? I noticed that article referred to her as "self-professed".
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« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2013, 11:33:56 am »

Come on Frank, when are you gonna man up?

Pelosi: GOP needs 'lesson on the birds and the bees' amid abortion fights

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) slammed Republican lawmakers in Washington and in statehouses across the country for attempting to pass new laws restricting abortion rights, saying they needed a lesson on "the birds and the bees."

Pelosi said new laws passed by legislatures in Texas and North Carolina endangered women's ability to engage in family planning in an interview set to air Thursday.

"What is at risk is the discretion of a woman to make judgments about the size and time, timing of her family," Pelosi told MSNBC. "It's respect for the judgment of women about what is good for them, for their families, their health, which is important to their families."

Pelosi added, "The reality is that people in our country do practice birth control and use contraception."

"I don't know if my colleagues need a lesson on the birds and the bees. I really don't get it," Pelosi said.

Pelosi, who is Catholic, said the laws would result in the shuttering of abortion clinics that also provided important women's health services and access to contraception.

"This is women's health, reproductive part of us is part of our health, and-and, especially young women," the House's top Democrat said. "How can they say that we're not going to be doing contraception or we're not going to be doing family planning? And so people focus on the most extreme cases in terms of terminating a pregnancy."


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One thing about Pelosi, she definitely has an amazing ability to say absolutely nothing, and look clueless doing it.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2013, 04:18:48 am »

Well, once upon a time ago, Ronald Reagan was motivated by St. Thomas Aquinas writings when a pushed a big pro-abortion bill while governor of California.

Talk about some really rotten fruit from the RCC.

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Nancy Pelosi Ditches Catholic Credentials, Can’t Say if Jesus Has Right to Life

Nancy Pelosi further ditched her Catholic credentials again as she was unable to answer a reporter’s question about whether Jesus Christ should have had his right to life protected from conception.

Earlier this year, Pelosi said she has an obligation to pursue public policy “in keeping with the values” of Jesus. Yet, asked by a CNS News reporter late last week whether Jesus has the right to life, Pelosi couldn’t agree.

At her July 29 press briefing, CNSNews asked: “You said at a recent Catholic Community Conference that your favorite word was ‘The Word, as in the word made flesh,’ and that we need to quote, ‘give voice to what that means in terms of public policy that would be in keeping with the Word.’"

The reporter continued: "So, when was the Word made flesh? Was it at the Annunciation, when Jesus was conceived by the power of the Holy Sprit, as the Creed says, or was it at the Nativity when he was born of the Virgin Mary? And when did the Word get the right to life?”

“Whenever it was, we bow our heads when we talk about it in church, and that’s where I’d like to talk about that," Pelosi said in response.

The conservative news web site then sent an email to Pelosi’s press secretary Nadeam Elshami seeking clarification.

Elshami responded in an email with the words, “The speaker answered the question. Thanks.”

This isn’t the first time Pelosi has upset pro-life Catholics with her religious talk that fails to honor the pro-life teachings of the Catholic Church.

Pelosi has been repeatedly at odds with the Catholic Church, in which she claims membership, over the issue of abortion.

In March, she called on a Catholic saint to help her and her pro-abortion colleague pass a Senate health care bill that contains massive abortion funding. Not only did Pelosi upset pro-life Catholics in so doing, but she got the date wrong concerning the saint she mentioned.

Pelosi has claimed to be a good Catholic while advancing abortion at a rapid pace.

In a 2006 interview with Clift, Pelosi regretted that her family is “very pro-life” and would “like it if I were not so vocally pro-choice.” But, she proclaimed, “To me it isn’t even a question. God has given us a free will.”

Last year she said the "free will" of women wanting abortions outweighs pro-life Catholic teachings.

And those comments followed on Pelosi thanking God that the Senate health care bill funds abortions.

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« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2013, 09:03:33 am »

Looks like Nancy Pelosi has been set up to be the perfect whipping girl in all of this. What? No backlash over John Roberts and Samuel Alito from life site news? Or how about Pope Francis? After all, their pro-abortion/pro-sodomy records are pretty clear too.
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« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2013, 07:50:11 am »

Pope Francis: Oppose Abortion, Protect Human Life From Conception

http://www.lifenews.com/2013/08/12/pope-francis-oppose-abortion-protect-human-life-from-conception/

What about Nancy Frank??
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Pope Francis: Oppose Abortion, Protect Human Life From Conception

http://www.lifenews.com/2013/08/12/pope-francis-oppose-abortion-protect-human-life-from-conception/

What about Nancy Frank??

And why hasn't Life Site News exposed Pope Frankie for this?
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« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2013, 10:59:11 am »

And why hasn't Life Site News exposed Pope Frankie for this?

 Cheesy life site news is a Catholic site. Its just a really good place for news on Abortion. And yes, i have told them so in their annual survey.  Grin
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« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2013, 11:03:50 am »

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« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2013, 04:30:58 am »

Vatican Official: Pelosi Shouldn’t Receive Communion

Cardinal Raymond Leo Burke said that Nancy Pelosi should be denied communion because her support of abortion is in conflict of her Catholic faith. He took particular issue with the minority leader’s refusal to comment on abortionist and murderer Kermit Gosnell because she said “as a practicing and respectful Catholic, this is sacred ground” for her.

“To say that these are simply questions of Catholic faith which have no part in politics is just false and wrong,” Cardinal Burke said in an interview with The Wanderer, a Catholic newspaper. “This is a person who obstinately, after repeated admonitions, persists in a grave sin — cooperating with the crime of procured abortion.”

“For Catholic institutions or individuals to give recognition to such persons, to honor them in any way, is a source of grave scandal for which they are responsible,” he continued. “In a certain way, they contribute to the sinfulness of the individuals involved.”

The cardinal said he feared for Pelosi “if she does not come to understand how gravely in error she is” and called on her to look to St. Thomas More as inspiration; More was a 16th-century member of Parliament who was executed for defending his Catholic faith.

Burke, a Wisconsin native, previously served as Archbishop of St. Louis. Since 2008, he has served as the prefect of the Supreme Tribunal of the Apostolic Signatura, which is the Vatican’s highest judicial authority.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/359511/vatican-official-pelosi-shouldnt-receive-communion-andrew-johnson
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« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2013, 04:47:51 am »

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“if she does not come to understand how gravely in error she is”

Oh, she has no idea how "gravely in error" she is!
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« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2013, 11:04:54 am »

Vatican Official: Pelosi Shouldn’t Receive Communion

Cardinal Raymond Leo Burke said that Nancy Pelosi should be denied communion because her support of abortion is in conflict of her Catholic faith. He took particular issue with the minority leader’s refusal to comment on abortionist and murderer Kermit Gosnell because she said “as a practicing and respectful Catholic, this is sacred ground” for her.


Neither should Anthony Kennedy, John Roberts, and Samuel Alito for that matter too - all Roman Catholics who support abortion.

Surprised the Vatican hasn't yet exposed these men.
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« Reply #25 on: September 27, 2013, 05:22:18 am »

Vatican declares Nancy Pelosi may no longer receive Communion

The Vatican has finally had enough of U.S. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi illogically insisting she’s a “good Catholic” while consistently supporting unrestricted abortion.

The Vatican’s chief justice, Cardinal Raymond Burke, said the California Democrat should no longer receive the sacrament of Holy Communion, according to CNS News.

“Certainly this is a case when Canon 915 must be applied,” Burke in a Sept. 5 interview with The Wanderer, a national Catholic weekly, CNS News reported Monday. “This is a person who obstinately, after repeated admonitions, persists in a grave sin — cooperating with the crime of procured abortion — and still professes to be a devout Catholic.”
 
Burke emphasized that Catholics have to at least attempt to live their faith.
 
“This is a prime example of what Blessed John Paul II referred to as the situation of Catholics who have divorced their faith from their public life and therefore are not serving their brothers and sisters in the way that they must — in safeguarding and promoting the life of the innocent and defenseless unborn, in safeguarding and promoting the integrity of marriage and the family,” the cardinal said.
 
CNS reported:
 

In mid-June at a Capitol Hill press conference, Pelosi was asked if there is a moral difference between aborting a baby at 26 weeks and what Dr. Kermit Gosnell did in Philadelphia in delivering babies alive at 23 weeks and then severing their spinal cords to kill them?
 
Rather than answer the Vatican directly, Pelosi said, “As a practicing and respectful Catholic, this is sacred ground to me when we talk about this. I don’t think it should have anything to do with politics, and that’s where you’re taking it and I’m not going there.”

So much for living her faith.
 
“To say that these are simply questions of Catholic faith which have no part in politics is just false and wrong,” the cardinal told The Wanderer. “I fear for Congresswoman Pelosi if she does not come to understand how gravely in error she is. I invite her to reflect upon the example of St. Thomas More who acted rightly in a similar situation even at the cost of his life.”

St. Thomas More was beheaded for refusing to swear to Henry VIII’s Oath of Allegiance after the king broke with the Catholic Church. More’s last words were, “The king’s good servant, but God’s first.”
 
As for Pelosi, let’s not get any ideas — we don’t behead people in the West anymore. Ex-communication maybe?

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2013/09/24/vatican-declares-nancy-pelosi-may-no-longer-receive-communion-84024
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« Reply #26 on: September 27, 2013, 11:21:39 am »

Isn't John Kerry a Catholic too?
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« Reply #27 on: September 27, 2013, 01:54:44 pm »

Yep!

http://www.biography.com/people/john-kerry-10673562

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...Kerry and his three siblings were raised in the Catholic faith, and he even served an altar boy for a time...

...John Kerry attended St. Paul's School, an elite boarding school in Concord, New Hampshire. He then went on to study political science at Yale University....

with Jewish heritage...

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...Fritz Kohn/Fred Kerry (Grandfather)

Fritz and Otto excelled in their studies in Vienna. However, like other Jews, they suffered greatly from the anti-Semitism that prevailed in Europe at this time. As a result, both Kohn brothers abandoned their Jewish heritage and converted to Roman Catholicism.

In addition, in 1897, Otto decided to shed the Jewish-sounding name of Kohn. He chose a new name by dropping a pencil on a map. The pencil landed on Ireland's County Kerry. In 1901, Fritz followed his brother’s example and officially changed his name to Frederick Kerry.

Fred, who worked as an accountant at his uncle's shoe factory, married Ida Loewe, a Jewish musician from Budapest. Ida was a descendant of Sinai Loew, a brother of Rabbi Judah Loew, the famous Kabbalist, philosopher and Talmudist known as the "Maharal of Prague" who some say invented the character of the Golem. Two of Ida's siblings, Otto Loewe and Jenni Loewe, were killed in **** concentration camps.

Fred, Ida and their first son Erich were all baptized as Catholics. And in 1905, the young family immigrated to America. After entering through Ellis Island, the family first lived in Chicago and then settled in Boston. Fred and Ida had two more children in America, Mildred (1910) and Richard (1915).

Fred and Ida and their three children lived in Brookline, where Fred became a prominent man in the shoe business and regularly attended Sunday Catholic church services. Fred did not tell and no one would have guessed that the family had Jewish roots...
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« Reply #28 on: September 27, 2013, 02:02:31 pm »

I read today that there's a LIBERAL wing of the Catholic Church - pt being the Vatican has ALOT of HOUSECLEANING to do! Shocked
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« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2013, 12:49:11 pm »

Apparently, Illinois governor Pat Quinn is Catholic - the same guy who's going to sign the IL gay marriage legalization bill into law soon. And the IL House Speaker Mike Madigan is also Catholic.

Odd how Catholic priests were protesting this bill last week - so NOTHING about Quinn and Madigan from these Catholic priests? Nor from Frankie?

WOW is all I can say! Roll Eyes
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