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Temple Denial vs. Archaeology

The following is excerpted from The Fight for Jerusalem: Radical Islam, the West, and the Future of the Holy City by Dore Gold (Washington, D.C.: Regnery Publishing, 2007):


“The Palestinians’ battle for Jerusalem incorporates more than just the frontal, military assault of the intifada. Its first stages entailed a campaign by Arafat to completely delegitimize the Israeli claim to the city. This began on the ninth day of the Camp David summit [in the year 2000], when Arafat subjected Clinton to a lecture of staggering historical revisionism. His central argument was that the biblical temple never existed on the Temple Mount or even in Jerusalem. Arafat baldly asserted that ‘There is nothing there [i.e., no trace of a temple on the Temple Mount],’ further insisting that ‘Solomon’s Temple was not in Jerusalem, but Nablus.’ ...

[This] doctrine of ‘Temple Denial’ quickly became a new Palestinian dogma that was even repeated, with the firmest conviction, by Western-educated Palestinian officials who are assiduously courted by the international media. ...

Arafat’s eventual successor, Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen), also embraced Temple Denial. ... Temple Denial spread across the Middle East like wildfire from the editorial pages of al-Jazirah in Saudi Arabia to well-funded international seminars in the United Arab Emirates. It even subtly slipped into the writing of Middle East-based Western reporters. Thus Time magazine’s Romesh Ratnesar in October 2003 described the Temple Mount as a place ‘where Jews believe Solomon and Herod built the first and Second Temples.’ In three years, Arafat’s campaign had convinced a leading U.S. weekly to relate the existence of Jerusalem’s biblical temples as a debatable matter of religious belief rather than historical fact. Arafat had moved the goalposts of historical truth.

Temple Denial found fertile ground in the Arab world’s universities, particularly those with a more radical Islamist perspective, where it would affect an entirely new generation. A lecturer in modern history at Saudi Arabia’s Muhammad bin Saud Islamic University repeated a popular variation of Temple Denial in 2000, when he published a research arguing that King Solomon’s Temple was in fact a mosque. ...

The Temple Mount itself and the Western Wall attests to the Second Temple, built in the 6th century B.C. and expanded under Herod the Great in the 1st century B.C. The Western Wall contains original stones from the foundation of the Temple Mount in the days when the New Testament was written. [Benjamin Mazar, president of the Hebrew University, excavated the southern steps of the Temple Mount between 1968-78. Because of his labor, visitors today can see the actual steps upon which Jesus walked and where He preached at the main entrance to the temple area and where the Psalms of Degrees were sung.]

CLAY SEAL FROM THE FIRST TEMPLE -- [In rubble that was removed from the Temple Mount by the Palestinian-controlled Waqf and dumped in various waste sites throughout Jerusalem] Dr. Gabi Barkai found a clay seal from the Temple Mount with Hebrew writing. On the third line of the ancient seal was the name Immer, which is the last name of a man, Pashur Ben Immere, whom the Book of Jeremiah describes as an important priest in the first Temple. Looking at a set of broken lines above the name Immer, Barkai concluded that the seal belonged to a relative of Pashur named Galihu Ben Immer. The clay seal proved that a noted priestly family member at the time of ancient Israel was involved in administering the Temple Mount. ...

JOSEPHUS’ TESTIMONY -- Ancient historians from the Roman era such as Josephus have provided detailed descriptions of the Second Temple as well as the planning and execution of its destruction by Titus, the son of Roman emperor Vespasian, and his successor.

ARCH OF TITUS IN ROME -- Indeed, any tourist visiting the famous Arch of Titus in Rome can see how the Roman conquest of Jerusalem was commemorated over nineteen centuries ago with engraved images of Roman soldiers triumphantly carrying the Temple vessels, including trumpets and the seven-branched Menorah, as spoils of war.

ITEMS FROM THE TENTH ROMAN LEGION -- Throughout Jerusalem’s Old City, a variety of everyday items have been found that bear the mark of the Tenth Roman Legion--the unit that destroyed the Second Temple.

TEMPLE PLAQUES WARNING GENTILES -- Stone plaques with Greek inscriptions from the time of King Herod warning non-Jews not to enter certain areas of the Temple have also been uncovered. A complete plaque from the Temple Mount is housed in the museum in Istanbul, Turkey, and a partial plaque is housed in the Israel Museum. The plaque reads: ‘Foreigner, do not enter within the grille and the partition surrounding the Temple.’

THE TRUMPETING PLACE -- The excavation of the street level just below the Temple Mount revealed huge blocks of stone that toppled down during the Temple’s destruction, including one with a Hebrew inscription reading ‘To the Trumpeting Place.’ This corresponds with Josephus’ account of a corner of the Temple Mount where the Temple trumpet was blown to mark the beginning of the Sabbath. The eight-foot-long stone was apparently hurled down by the Roman armies from the Temple area to the pavement surrounding the Temple Mount below.

[An inscription in the Siloam Tunnel in Jerusalem celebrates the completion of a water tunnel in the time of King Hezekiah and the prophet Isaiah, described in 2 Kings 20:20. The Hebrew writing is in the early angular script used before the Babylonian exile.]

[Part of Nehemiah’s Wall has been unearthed. It matches the description in Nehemiah that the poor Jews who had returned from Babylon used whatever was at hand to rebuild the walls rather than rebuilt it with quarried stones.]

COINS FROM BAR KOCHBA REBELLION -- [Coins from the Bar Kochba revolt to liberate Jerusalem from the Roman armies from 132-135 A.D., only a few decades after the destruction of the Temple, depict the façade of the Temple with the Ark of the Covenant between the pillars.]

Throughout the twentieth century, even extremist Muslim leaders and organizations acknowledged the Temple’s existence. For example, a guide to the Temple Mount was published in 1935 by the Supreme Muslim Council, which at the time was headed by Hajj Amin al-Husseini, the notorious pro-Nazi mufti of Jerusalem. Concerning the Temple Mount (‘Haram al-Sharif’), the guide stated without equivocation that ‘Its identity with the site of Solomon’s Temple is beyond dispute.’ This mimicked the language of an earlier guidebook the council had written in 1924.

Thus the claims of Arafat and his acolytes throughout the Arab world that the Temples never existed in Jerusalem are refuted not only by the archaeological record, but also by Islam’s greatest authorities and even by Arafat’s radical predecessors.

Except for the material within the brackets, the previous is adapted from The Fight for Jerusalem: Radical Islam, the West, and the Future of the Holy City by Dore Gold (Washington, D.C.: Regnery Publishing, 2007).

CONCLUDING NOTE FROM BROTHER CLOUD

There are also the temple stones that witness to the Jewish Temple. The Lord Jesus prophesied that the beautiful temple and the surrounding buildings would be destroyed and “there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down” (Mark 13:2). This was fulfilled 40 years after His resurrection when the Roman army under Titus conquered the city and destroyed the temple. Some of the stones that tumbled off the mount during this epoch event have been unearthed along the Western Wall and can be seen there today.

One of these stones with the inscription “to the place of trumpeting” was discovered by Benjamin Mazar. This corresponds with Josephus’ account in his Jewish Wars of a corner of the Temple Mount where the trumpet was blown to mark the beginning and ending of the Sabbath. “And the last [tower] was erected above the roof of the Priest’s Chambers, where it was the custom for one of the priests to stand and to give notice, by the sound of a trumpet, in the afternoon of the approach, and on the following evening of the close, of every seventh day, announcing to the people the respective hours for ceasing work and for resuming their labors.”

In a house unearthed in the Old City there is a drawing of a temple menorah dating to the first century B.C. This can be seen in the WOHL Archaeological Museum.

In 2009 Dr. Eilat Mazar, world authority on Jerusalem’s ancient archaeology, discovered the ruins of what is believed to be David’s palace. She found evidence that this was David’s actual palace and that it was occupied up until the destruction of Solomon’s temple by the Babylonians (“The World of Archeology Is Rocked,” aish.com, July 6, 2009). It was here that the aforementioned Jehucal bulla was found. Eilat is the granddaughter of Benjamin Mazar, and in their last conversation before his death in 1995, they discussed the recovery of David’s palace. She holds a doctorate in archaeology from Hebrew University and is the author of The Complete Guide to the Temple Mount Excavations.

In the 1990s two small silver scrolls were found in an ancient tomb on Ketef Hinnom (the shoulder of Hinnom), on the side of the Valley of Hinnom. After being unrolled by the Israel Museum, the scrolls were found to contain the priestly blessing from Numbers 6:24-26. Dating to the 7th century B.C., these are the oldest portions of Scripture in existence, predating the O.T. scrolls from the Dead Sea caves by 500 years (“Jerusalem: Silver Plaques Inscribed with the Biblical Priestly Benediction,” Archaeological Sites No. 1, Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs, July 29, 1998, http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/IsraelExperience/History/pages/Archaeological%20Sites%20in%20Israel%20-%20Jerusalem%20-%20Silve.aspx April 27, 2010).

In 2008 the Jewish Temple Institute acquired a copy of the 1925 edition of the guidebook published by the Supreme Moslem Council, which states the following: “Its identity with the site of Solomon's Temple is beyond dispute. This, too, is the spot, according to universal belief, on which ‘David built there an altar unto the Lord’” (Arutz Sheva, Sept. 2, 2008).

In March 2008 the Israel Antiquities Authority announced that first the first time in the history of archaeological research of Jerusalem remains from the First Temple have been found close to the Temple Mount.

“A rich layer of finds from the latter part of the First Temple period (8th-6th centuries B.C.E.) has been discovered in archaeological rescue excavations near the Western Wall plaza. ... The Israel Antiquities Authority has been conducting the excavations for the past two years under the direction of archaeologists Shlomit Wexler-Bdoulah and Alexander Onn, in cooperation with the Western Wall Heritage Foundation. The remains of a magnificent colonnaded street from the 2nd century C.E. were uncovered; the street appears on the mosaic Madaba map, and is referred to by the name Eastern Cardo. The level of the Eastern Cardo is paved with large heavy limestone pavers that were set directly atop the layer that dates to the end of the First Temple period. This Roman road thus ‘seals’ beneath it the finds from the First Temple period, protecting them from being plundered in later periods. The walls of the buildings found in the dig are preserved to a height of more than two meters” (“First Temple Building Remains Found Near Temple Mount,” Arutz Sheva, Israel National News, March 17, 2008).

In 2008 a coin from the year 66 AD, the first year of the Jewish revolt, was found in debris excavated from the Temple Mount itself. The debris was excavated illegally by the Muslims in 1999 and discarded in the Kidron Valley and elsewhere. Israeli archaeologists have been sifting through the debris, and the coin is one of their finds. The ancient half-shekel coin is inscribed with “The Holy Jerusalem” on one side. The coin has been damaged by fire, perhaps even the fire that destroyed the Second Temple in 70 AD.

In December 2011, A SEAL ASSOCIATED WITH RITUAL PURIFICATION RITES in the Second Temple was found. The seal was discovered during excavations under the Robinson’s Arch next to the Temple Mount. The seal, which is inscribed with the Aramaic words “Pure for God,” was found in soil dating to or just prior to the first century A.D. Archaeologist Eli Shukron of the Israel Antiquities Authority and Professor Ronny Reich of the University of Haifa said: “It constitutes direct archaeological evidence of the activity on the Temple Mount and the workings of the Temple during the Second Temple period” (“Seal Found in Temple Mount Excavation,” Jewish Press, Dec. 26, 2011).


THE ARCH OF TITUS

Leaving the land of Israel itself, there is powerful evidence in Rome for the Second Temple and its destruction according to Jesus’ prophecy. It was a Roman army that destroyed the Temple under the leadership of Titus, and the artifacts were transported to Rome. Titus became emperor, and in 85 A.D. a monumental arch was dedicated in commemoration of his victory over the Jews. A bas-relief inside the arch depicts the spoils from the Jerusalem Temple carried in a victory procession after Jerusalem’s fall. Clearly seen are the candlestick and the silver trumpets.

This 1900-year-old monument thus stands as a silent witness to the accuracy of Bible prophecy, as the destruction depicted on it was prophesied nearly a half century earlier by the Lord Jesus Christ in Luke 19:41-44:

“And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it, Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes. For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side, And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.”

You can disbelieve the Bible and it’s description of Israel’s history if you wish, but you cannot honestly say there is no evidence that it is true.

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I have no doubt at all that Islam isn't the only one responsible for trying to hide the truth about Jesus, Jerusalem, and the Temple.
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« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2014, 06:16:43 am »

The Temple Mount, Dismounted

In June 1967, Israeli paratroopers entered Jerusalem's Old City after Israel's miraculous victory in the Six-Day War. The Old City had been under Jordanian control for nineteen years, an era of wanton destruction of synagogues and of ethnic cleansing of all Jews from the Old City. The paratroopers made their prayerful way to the Temple Mount, the holiest piece of ground in all Judaism, site of the First and Second Great Temples and, by tradition, the ark itself. Three paratroopers climbed to the top of the Dome of The Rock (built atop the former Second Temple) and unfurled the Israeli flag for the first time. Four hours later, Defense Minister Moshe Dayan ordered the flag taken down. Then, in one of the most incomprehensible acts in Jewish history, Dayan handed over the entire Temple Mount to the Muslims, to be administered by the Waqf, the Jordanian Muslim religious trust. And thus it remains.

Dayan told his critics that he committed this act of ignominy to protect against the building of a Third Temple, which pious Jews indeed pray for. Of course, the likelihood of either the Messiah or the Third Temple arising would seem to be microscopically tiny at this time, a fact that doesn't stop Muslim clerics from expressing their suspicion that "the Israeli occupation and its executive arms are making increasing efforts...to hasten the building of the alleged third Temple in place of the blessed Al-Aqsa Mosque...." (Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, Jan. 4, 2011)
 
Meanwhile, and not surprisingly, in the Muslim grand scheme to erase Jews from all of Jerusalem, since 1967 things have steadily gotten worse at the Mount. Jews are allowed only limited access to the Mount, and are strictly forbidden to pray there.  If a Jew is seen so much as moving his lips while there, he runs the risk of being attacked, pelted with rocks and other missiles, and will very likely be arrested -- by the Israeli police. In spite of constant Israeli assistance, however, just last week the Jordanian Information Minister demanded the removal of the police station and its surveillance cameras.
 
Indeed, tensions have heightened lately, to the point that the Mount has become a "hotbed of clashes," according to Israel National News. (Perhaps a result of John Kerry's talk of a new intifada.) One cleric, Sheikh Ra'ed Salah, was arrested "after urging Muslims to block Jews from ascending the Temple Mount 'with their bodies.'"  Even the projected closing of the Mugrabi Bridge for reasons of safety is considered religious warfare: Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat said last week that the Israeli move "shows their determination to Judaize Jerusalem and to take over the city's Muslim holy places." Ironically, the Mugrabi Bridge is the only entrance permitted for non-Muslims.
 
The portentous events, of course, have their origin in the myth, as Mitchell Bard writes, that "the Temple Mount has always been a Muslim place and Judaism has no connection to the site." We recall President Clinton's astonishment when Yasser Arafat told him in 2000 that "no Jewish Temple ever existed on the Temple Mount."
 
This particular fabrication is relatively modern.  For example, the following is taken from a 1929 booklet, "A Brief Guide to Al-Sharif [the Noble Sanctuary], Jerusalem:
 
The Haram: The site is one of the oldest in the world. Its sanctity dates from the earliest (perhaps from pre-historic) times. Its identity with the site of Solomon's Temple is beyond dispute.  This too is the spot, according to the universal belief, on which David built there an altar unto the Lord, and offered burned offerings and peace offerings.
 
The author? The notorious anti-Semite and Nazi collaborator, the Grand Mufti Haj Amin al-Husayni, a relative of Yassir Arafat's, incidentally.
 
Even all the propaganda about Muhammed's mythical night journey from the Temple Mount can be dated to comparatively recent times, sometime in the 19th century. The only reference in the Qur'an to this fable says that Allah took Muhammed from "the Sacred Mosque" in Mecca "to the farthest Mosque," which the Muslims claim is Al-Aqsa. However, as noted by Palestinian Media Watch, "the "night journey" mentioned in the Qur'an is dated to 621 CE.  The mosque was built on the Temple Mount by the son of Ummayed Caliph Abd Al-Malik 84 years later, in 705 CE."
 
In fact, the Qur'an instructs the Jews to enter the Holy Land "that God has decreed for you."  Which they apparently did, dozens of centuries before the Qur'an itself, and left material proof of their presence on the Temple Mount.  So it behooved the Waqf, the clerics, and the speechifiers to intensify their efforts to demolish or discard every vestige of the Jewish presence.  Their efforts have been not only unlawful, but brutal.
 
In 1996, the underground vaulted archways known as Solomon's Stables were converted into a mosque, called the El-Marwani mosque, capable of holding some 10,000 people.  Three years later, the Waqf created what they called an "emergency exit" for the mosque. This "emergency exit," two huge arches comprising a gigantic vaulted entrance, was excavated with bulldozers, which in the process dug a pit more than 131 feet long and 40 feet deep. Trucks then carted away thousands of tons of debris and soil, and dumped them 500 meters east of the Temple Mount, in the municipal garbage dumps of the Kidron Valley.
 
Of course the Waqf insisted there was nothing to see here; whatever was trucked away could by "historical" definition be nothing but Muslim. However, this material contained countless artifacts "saturated with the history of Jerusalem," said historian Eyal Meiron.
 
An "archeological crime," said Amir Drory, the head of the Israel Antiquities Authority, which, however, did nothing to halt the vandalization. And from Unesco not a word.
 
Enter, in 2004, archeologist and Bar-Ilan University professor and archeologist Gabriel Barkay, who together with two of his students, was finally permitted to search the rubble. They hired trucks to cart the refuse -- 400 truckloads -- to Emek Tzurim National Park at the foot of Mt. Scopus, where minute and painstaking examination of the debris would begin. Donors were found, and thus was born the Temple Mount Sifting Project. With ten full-time staffers and an army of sifters -- students, tourists, retired teachers -- the Project has uncovered a treasure trove of artifacts. The project took a hit from the recent snowstorm in Jerusalem, and will need some serious repair work, but as Prof. Barkay says, "With money anything is possible."
 
Not only money, but dedication, sweat, scholarship and close attention to minute detail, have uncovered innumerable artifacts spanning 10,000 years. Some are particularly exciting, among them a "bulla," or seal impression, bearing the name Gedalyahu Ben Immer Ha-Cohan, suggesting that the owner may have been a brother of Pashur Ben Immer, described in Jeremiah 20:1 as a priest and temple official, according to Prof. Barkay.
 
Barkay and his archaelogists have also identified some two million pottery shards, some of which can be dated back the 10th century BCE; opus sectile tiles, probably Herodian; 5,000 ancient coins -- Jewish and non-Jewish, including one of the best collection of Crusader coins anywhere; arrowheads, one of which was probably used by the Roman legions in their siege of the Second Temple, another used by the army of Nebuchednezzar; nails from the horseshoes of Crusader horses; a large number of burnt bones, probably of sacrificial animals; combs of women leaving or entering the mikveh, including some head lice; and thousands of other fascinating finds.
 
The work is compromised by the fact that the artifacts are out of context, not having been found in situ, and possibly vitiated by contaminants in the garbage and debris. Barkay estimates that maybe 10 per cent are definitively verifiable. But says he, "Ten per cent is better than zero per cent, right?"
 
Meanwhile, the Muslims on the Mount are agitated.


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The portentous events, of course, have their origin in the myth, as Mitchell Bard writes, that "the Temple Mount has always been a Muslim place and Judaism has no connection to the site." We recall President Clinton's astonishment when Yasser Arafat told him in 2000 that "no Jewish Temple ever existed on the Temple Mount."

And they say they are having peace talks. Yeah, right! How can you have talks with a group of people who don't even believe historical facts?  Roll Eyes
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Temple Mount Report Fuels Concern About Future of Holy Site


A recently revealed Israeli State Comptroller’s report that remains under a government gag order has ignited concern over the Muslim Waqf’s attempts to erase Jewish ties on the Temple Mount—Judaism’s holiest site—and Israeli authorities’ neglect of those activities.
 
The classified document, whose contents were published by the New York-based newspaper The Jewish Voice, http://jewishvoiceny.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6144:secret-government-report-reveals-the-truth-behind-temple-mound-conspiracy-a-jewish-voice-exclusive&catid=107:israel&Itemid=290  details ongoing illegal excavations being carried out on the Temple Mount by the Muslim Waqf (trust) and places blame on those responsible for overseeing the site—namely the Israel Antiquities Authority, the Jerusalem Municipality, and the Israeli police. The report suggests that those Israeli bodies have been turning a blind eye to the damage caused by the Waqf pertaining to ancient Jewish archeological findings.
 
In response to the leak, attorney Aviad Visoly—chairman of the Joint Staff Movement of the Jewish Temple Mount Organizations, an umbrella for 27 bodies that advocate for Jewish rights on the Temple Mount—says that he has sent a letter to the state comptroller requesting an immediate removal of the gag order so that Members of Knesset can discuss its findings.
 
Visoly tells JNS.org that the goal of the Muslims on the Temple Mount “is to eliminate all remnants of Jewish history.” Nevertheless, he is optimistic that as a result of the report, along with a “tremendous rise” in the willingness of Jews to visit the Temple Mount, “we are on the verge of a revolution of a state of affairs in which for the first time in 2,000 years, Jews will be able to pray freely on the Temple Mount.” Visoly says that currently around 100,000 non-Muslims visit the site per year, with approximately a third of them being Jewish. Israel’s Chief Rabbinate opposes visits by Jews to the Temple Mount due to the concern that they may inadvertently step into an area that, according to halacha, is forbidden to enter unless one is ritually pure.
 
Yisrael Medad, the secretary of the El Har Hashem Temple Mount advocacy group and a member of the Temple Mount organizations’ coordinating council, tells JNS.org that while according to Israeli law Jewish worship on the Temple Mount is legal, there is “collusion between the government, police, and the courts, who don’t want any problems.” Police at the site forbid Jewish prayer, claiming that allowing it will cause the Muslims to riot or could even ignite another violent intifada (uprising).
 
Medad says that over the years, Israeli courts “have blindly accepted claims by the police that [Jewish worship] is illegal on the Temple Mount,” but that information contained in the comptroller’s report itself debunks that myth. Medad cites one instance in 1967 when Jewish prayer was temporarily banned, while the report explains in a footnote “that it appears that no general decision was made to forbid Jews from praying on the Temple Mount.”
 
According to Medad, the report shows “that whatever laudatory government aims are in protecting law and order, the status quo only exists for the Jews, and even worse, the Muslims are destroying archeological artifacts.”
 
“It’s one thing to say that the Temple Mount should be kept off the heater, but what they are actually doing is giving in on every single issue to Muslim fanaticism and destroying or not protecting anything Jewish there,” he says.
 
Like all Israeli governments since 1967, the current government “doesn’t want to give the Jews any rights on the Temple Mount other than free access to the site,” says Medad. Israeli authorities “haven’t done the minimum to protect Jewish history, archeology, and construction, which [by doing so] doesn’t have to ignite World War III,” he adds.
 
Yitzchak Reuven—assistant-director of the International Department at The Temple Institute, an educational, not-for-profit organization which focuses on the universal significance of the Holy Temple as a house of peace and prayer for all nations—tells JNS.org that he believes the comptroller’s document proves that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has in effect given the Israeli police full authority on the site to act on behalf of the Jerusalem Municipality, the body which is supposed to approve all construction in the city, and on behalf of the Israel Antiquities Authority, which is tasked with maintaining a presence at all sites relating to historical archeological digs.
 
Reuven expresses grave concern in regard to extensive construction work currently being carried out by the Waqf “without supervision or authorization.” He says that the police “never say no the Muslim Waqf [for carrying out their projects], but always give them the green light.”Regarding the 1994 peace agreement between Israel and Jordan, which was supposed to ensure freedom of worship for all monotheistic faiths on the Temple Mount, Reuven says that “Jordan and [the Jordanian] Waqf have essentially reneged on the agreement, but nobody says anything about it.”
 
Israel has “willfully not exercising sovereignty over Temple Mount, thus creating a vacuum which the Waqf has filled,” claims Reuven. As a result, he says that Jews who ascend to visit the site are often screamed at and intimidated by Muslims who are hired and compensated by Raed Salah, the leader of the Northern branch of the Islamic Movement in Israel, to sit on the Temple Mount for the purpose of disrupting visits by Jews as well as other non-Muslims.
 
“If the Muslims decided to cause a scene, the police [won’t stop them but] will remove the Jews from the area, since the Jews represent a path of least resistance. In light of the report, it seems incontrovertible that the police are getting specific instructions from their superiors and ultimately from the Prime Minister’s office that their jobs will be on the line, if they screw up [and there are disturbances],” Reuven says.
 
“The Temple Mount is used as an alarm by the Muslims to terrify a lot of people by saying that the Muslim world will rise up anytime a Jew moves a stone [at the site],” adds Reuven. “Israel has educated its own people to replace the importance and yearning of the Temple Mount with the Western Wall.”

http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/01/08/temple-mount-report-fuels-concern-about-future-of-holy-site/
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« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2014, 06:28:23 am »

Temple Mount Desecration: 'The Public Needs to Know'
Member of committee to preserve Temple Mount antiquities demands that secret report on Waqf be published - for the sake of the public.


The public needs to know the truth about antiquities on the Temple Mount, according to one official involved in the Jewish site's preservation.

Attorney Yisrael Kaspi, a member of the Committee to Prevent Temple Mount Desecration, stated to Arutz Sheva Saturday night that the full report regarding the Waqf's desecration of antiquities on the Mount needs to be revealed to the public.

"We're livid [that the report remains unpublished]," Kaspi declared. "[This is] harsh and severe - we unequivocally demand that this report be revealed in full to the public."

"The head of the Shin Bet and the Mossad said - contrary to the Prime Minister  - that nothing justifies the imposition of secrecy," he continued.

Kaspi's comments refer to the contents of a secret report by the State Comptroller regarding the enforcement, or lack thereof, of the law at the Temple Mount.

The report was not made public in Israel because of concerns that doing so would result in violence. However, The Jewish Voice, a New York-based Jewish website got its hands on the report and published it in December.

The report reveals some disturbing truths about the methods taken by the Waqf to remove any ties that the Jewish people have to the Temple Mount and how Israeli institutions cooperated with these actions.

Among other revelations, the report shows that the Jerusalem Municipality, the Israel Antiquities Authority (IAA) and other law enforcement officials do not operate on the Temple Mount. Only the police operates on the Temple Mount, but it avoids confrontation with the Waqf in order to maintain its good relations with it.

The Waqf is the Jordanian-run Islamic trust which administers the Temple Mount. It has been accused on numerous occasions of mounting a concerted campaign to "Islamize" the site by destroying ancient Jewish artifacts.

Kaspi said the confidential report strongly criticizes the policies of former Attorney General Menachem Mazuz, who prevented legal authorities from acting on the Temple Mount.

"The report paints a picture of incompetence, negligence and indifference of all government officials related to the most important archaeological site in the state of Israel," Kaspi fired. "The IAA, and the Israeli police, the Jerusalem Municipality - none of them have dealt effectively with the problem. Attorney General Menachem Mazuz abandoned the place at the mercy of the Muslim Waqf and stopped the ability of law enforcement agencies to address the issue."

Kaspi claims that Mazuz lied when he stated that he was unaware of the issue.

"We know the police approached him and so did the IAA; we also reported the destruction and vandalism [on the Mount]," Kaspi stated. "Today there is some improvement, but there are still serious problems - the Waqf continues to destroy all archaeological finds on the Mount as a matter of policy."

Kaspi's remarks follow news earlier this month that the Waqf has been illegally drilling on Judaism's holiest site, as revealed through telling video footage.

In addition to frequent vandalism, the Temple Mount is frequently closed to Jewish visitors and is often the site of anti-Jewish discrimination. Jews are prevented from praying or performing any other religious rituals, while Muslim visitors pray freely.

Muslim anger over the site has escalated since MKs have announced efforts to equalize prayer rights at the site, through legislation which would allow full religious freedom.

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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2014, 03:36:34 pm »

I got an idea, why don't the Muslims agree to allow, say the Temple Institute to mange the temple site in Mecca and they block access to that black box to most Muslims, as a trade off for the Waqf "managing" the Temple Mount? We know exactly how that would go!

It seems okay to Arabs to deny Jews access to the Temple Mount, but try to do the same to Islam and Mecca and see what happens!
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Secrets from the Temple Mount

In recent years, not only have the relevant government agencies failed to prevent acts of vandalism and destruction by the waqf on the Temple Mount, but they have also prevented the public from being informed of new archaeological discoveries there.



The summer of 2007 was a tumultuous one on the Temple Mount. Time after time, it became clear that the attorney-general and the political echelon were tying the hands of the Israel Antiquities Authority by denying its experts the opportunity to supervise the activities of the waqf due to the political sensitivity of the issue. Many ancient artifacts and treasures were harmed, vandalized, destroyed, and stolen.

Most of the media and public attention was devoted to the lapses in the authorities' supervision of the Temple Mount. That includes the police, the Jerusalem municipality, the IAA, the attorney-general, and the political echelon. In 2008, the state comptroller wrote scathing reports about this series of mishaps and the tremendous damage caused to antiquities on the mount. These reports are still classified despite the fact that their contents were released abroad.

For those individuals who are well-versed in the details, it is hard to shake the impression that the shroud of secrecy has less to do with maintaining state security, public order, and Israeli foreign relations, and more to do with covering the tracks of the authorities.

Not only have the relevant government agencies failed to prevent acts of vandalism and destruction on the Temple Mount -- acts which have been written about in the press for years -- but they have also prevented the public from being informed of new archaeological discoveries that came to light as a result of unauthorized, unfettered, and unchecked excavations by the waqf and Muslims on the Temple Mount.

This is not the kind of publicity that the Antiquities Authority was hoping for. It usually wants press attention whenever it unearths a valuable historical item. Now, however, it is walking around the Temple Mount on its tiptoes with its hands tied. All of the relevant authorities in charge -- whether it has been the Israelis since 1967; the Jordanians from 1948 until 1967; and even the British since 1917 -- have refrained from conducting excavations on the Temple Mount.

The Muslims have consistently quashed any attempts to dig there. Nonetheless, thanks to routine construction and maintenance of structures which was carried out at the site by Muslims, hundreds of artifacts and treasures were accidentally unearthed, some of them truly historic which were documents by the authorities as well as researchers and scientists.

Most of this material is buried in the files of the IAA as well as the Mandate-era archives. It has not been released to this day primarily so as not to embarrass the Muslims in confirming a Jewish and Christian historical presence on the Temple Mount, which the findings indeed do. To this day, Muslims deny that there was ever a Jewish link to the site, so much so that the Jewish Temple is referred to as al-Maz'um ("the imagined entity" or "the false entity").

Years ago, noted archaeologist Tzachi Dvira published an impressive essay which included new information from various excavations on the Temple Mount in the previous century. The essay ran in Bar-Ilan University's scientific journal titled Hidushim B'Heker Yerushalayim ("New Revelations in the Study of Jerusalem"), but the news media ignored it.

Dvira poured through the British Mandate archives and found a treasure trove of material. He discovered piles of photographs and documents that were accumulated by Robert Hamilton, the director of the Mandate Antiquities Authority, during the period in which the waqf performed extensive renovations on Al-Aqsa mosque. The mosque had suffered damage due to the earthquakes that struck the area in 1927 and 1937.

In Hamilton's comprehensive book about Al-Aqsa mosque, which was published in the mid-20th century, there is no mention of these items. Hamilton simply "overlooked" them. Dvira notes that all of these revelations are similar in that they "precede the early Arab period." Then, as now, the documentation and the studies were dependent upon the good will of the waqf. That is why the British scientist declined to release findings that proved the existence of historic buildings at the site before there was ever a mosque.

One discovery made by Hamilton was an ancient water pit with a tiny staircase leading to it underneath the mosque's eastern entrance. This water pit was most likely used as a Jewish ritual bath (mikveh). Hamilton also discovered a Byzantine-era mosaic underneath the mosque. This was most likely a remnant of a church that existed prior to the mosque's construction.

This finding seemingly undermines modern scientists who have a tendency to assume that the Temple Mount was abandoned territory during the Byzantine period. Hamilton also mapped out the water pits and unidentified space, particularly in the "double gate" region; the underground passages that were built during the Second Temple period and which provided a direct route to the Temple Mount plaza entrance to the south.

In Hamilton's photographs, one can notice a tunnel which was dug into rock. Part of the tunnel is covered with stone plates measuring 15 meters long and 1.2 meters wide at a height of 2 meters. There is also a staircase that leads eastward. One possibility is that the tunnel was used as a passageway connecting the foyer of the double-gate region with another underground passage.

Nonetheless, Hamilton wasn't the only one who declined to make his findings available for public consumption. The Israel Antiquities Authority is very careful in releasing "random" findings that were dug up as a result of work by Muslims. Not only is it loathe to embarrass the waqf, but it is also eager to avoid doing anything that would cause waqf officials not to release similar findings. There are many examples of this. Instances stretch as far back as the initial years following the Six-Day War, and they continue to this day.

In 1970, when the waqf dug an emergency pool used to extinguish fires in the wake of the attempted arson of Al-Aqsa mosque by Michael Rohan, a Christian man from Australia, a large pit was discovered. Next to it was a canal as well as an ancient wall whose stones were reminiscent of the Herodian era. These findings were documented by the IAA, but they were revealed to the public just eight years afterward by Temple Mount researcher Asher Kaufman.

One of the most enduring mysteries surrounding the Temple Mount is the so-called "Eliyahu's room" that lies east of the double gate. It was first documented by Meir Ben Dov, and then by Dan Bahat. The documentation and the pictures which were taken later revealed a massive space that hid behind the northern wall of Eliyahu's room, an area that was never excavated.

In August 1989, the police commander in charge of the Temple Mount at the time, Superintendent Tziyon Ezra, warned of construction work done in the double-gate area that was being extended in order to connect it to Solomon's Stables. In January 2001, the committee charged with preventing the defacement and destruction of artifacts on the Temple Mount was notified of the existence of this vast space by an east Jerusalem resident.

Newspaper articles that relied on witness accounts and information indicating that the waqf was planning to connect the two underground mosques that were dug up underneath Al-Aqsa and Solomon's Stables were adamantly denied by the police.

The summer of 2007 also provided a number of revelations. During that period, the waqf dug two canals stretching hundreds of meters long in the most sensitive area of the Temple Mount -- the elevated region upon which the Dome of the Rock sits and where many researchers believe once stood the Jewish Temple.

The most explosive finding, which was only partially revealed by the IAA thanks to special approval given by then-prime minister Ehud Olmert, was a number of artifacts from the time of the First Temple, including china, utensils, and animal bones. The announcement didn't include a great number of details about the essence of the discovery. It only stated that the artifacts were being examined by a team led by Professor Ronen Reich of Haifa University, Professor Yisrael Finkelstein of Tel Aviv University, and Professor Sy Gitin of the Albright Institute.

The main importance of this finding was the fact that it set a precedent. This was the first time in which a sign of life from the First Temple period had been discovered on the Temple Mount. It also provided archaeological insight as to the possible contours of the Temple Mount complex during the First Temple period.

These findings raise more questions regarding the lax inspection and supervision of excavations done by the waqf. Who knows what other findings the Jewish people and world culture missed out on as a result of the disorganized diggings by the waqf, the inadequate oversight by the Israeli authorities, and the vandalism and damage caused to many artifacts that were ensconced in the Temple Mount area?

Nonetheless, there are some positives which withstood the supervisory mishaps and the waqf activities. These positives were examined by two researchers, an Israeli and a Hungarian. The Israeli scientist is Dr. Orit Peleg-Barkat of Hebrew University. Her doctoral thesis dealt with cupolas and the Hulda Gate. During the Second Temple period, particularly during the time of the three pilgrimage festivals, tens of thousands of visitors would enter the Temple through this area.

The engravings on the cupolas could be found in the Temple Mount area just past its southern wall in a section known as "Al-Aqsa al-kadima" (ancient Al-Aqsa). The archaeological delegation led by Benjamin Mazar documented these areas in the 1970s, and Peleg-Barkat visited there again in 2004 and took pictures.

In her work, she tackles the issue of whether this passage is a remnant from the time of the Umayyad caliphate. The designs of the engraving on the cupolas and their style offers hints that similar works of art date back to the time of the Second Temple.

This study "decisively proves that this structure was built during the time of Herod."

"The credit for the planning and design of the entrance to the gate belongs to the artists and architects that worked for King Herod," Peleg-Barkat said. "The decorated foyer of the double gate and its four cupolas is therefore the most intact remnant that has been preserved from the Herodian period at the Temple Mount."

Peleg-Barkat photographed and studied another rare, architectural item which somehow found its way to the northern side of the southern edge of the Western Wall inside Solomon's Stables. Today, it's a mosque. It is a piece of the outer rim of a structure which is decorated with geometric patterns and designs which was used in the construction of the stables.

Relying on the observations of Josephus, Peleg-Barkat believes it to part of a royal portico built by Herod along the southern edge of the Temple Mount plaza. The part that is visible to human sight and which today is a mosque belonged to the upper part of the rim that is adorned with two stripes.

Another discovery is preserved in the Museum of Islam which is managed by the waqf atop the Temple Mount. Access to the museum is very limited to Israeli researchers. The museum is holding onto a stone board which is a remnant of a plague with Latin writing on it. The plague bears the name of the man who destroyed Masada, Lucius Flavius Silva, the Roman general and governor of Judea.

This discovery was first revealed by Hungarian scientist Tibor Grull in the official publication of the Albright Institute of Archaeological Research. Grull first saw the plague years before during his visit to the Temple Mount. When he took an interest in the artifact and expressed his interest to the waqf, officials told him that it was found in a large excavation carried out by Muslims on the Temple Mount in 1999. That was when a new access point leading to Solomon's Stables was dug up.

Gabi Barkai, the archaeologist who has studied the Temple Mount extensively and who jointly manages the dust filtering project atop the Temple Mount together with Dvira, weaved Grull's discovery into an article that he wrote in a journal about the Land of Israel entitled "Ariel."

"This is the only testimonial we have about the victory rainbow or memory rainbow that the Romans built on the Temple Mount after the destruction of the city and the temple," Barkai said. "This is a unique testament to the rehabilitation of the city which began with the Roman army immediately after its destruction, and 50 years before its establishment as Aelia Capitolina."

What about the remnants of the past?

What is most bothersome to Barkai and Dr. Eilat Mazar, two experts who are also members of the committee to prevent the destruction of ancient artifacts on the Temple Mount, are the discoveries that haven't been revealed and which were vandalized or stolen from the site. There are also discoveries to be made on the site that remain untouched.

Both experts note that there are still ancient wooden ceilings that were dismantled from the roof of Al-Aqsa mosque. They remain exposed to the elements and the weather. Some of the wooden ceilings and rooftops which found their way outside of the Temple Mount grounds date back to the time of the First Temple. There are also extensive discoveries of marble fragments that appear to have been part of a church, destroyed china which has yet to be traced back to a source, fragments of pillars that no one knows where they were taken from, and other shattered pieces.

Barkai bemoans the fact that much of the work being done on the Temple Mount is not being documented or supervised in an orderly fashion. "Then again, the IAA's hands are tied," he said.

"We, as members of the committee, are trying with what little leverage we have to document what is taking place there," he said. "We have people representing us who are working there. We are also monitoring the aerial photographs of the Temple Mount and collecting testimonials of various visitors who are informing us of any change."

"The fact that after everything we know today we still have tractors and equipment on the Temple Mount and that we can only do work from time to time is scandalous and its unfathomable," he said. "There is no more important place from an archaeological standpoint than the Temple Mount, but because of what I think are ulterior motives, the authorities are treating these artifacts and remnants of the past in a bewildering manner that raises difficult questions."

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« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2014, 11:03:06 am »

PA officials: Jews have ‘no right to pray’ at Western Wall
Judge Tayseer Al-Tamimi says Al-Aqsa Mosque, including Jewish holy site, is Islamic and belongs to Muslims alone


Two Palestinian Authority officials recently asserted that Islamic law forbids Jews from praying at the Western Wall of the Temple Mount, both adding that the wall was an integral part of the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound.

“Allah decreed that the blessed Al-Aqsa Mosque is Islamic and belongs to Muslims alone,” Tayseer Al-Tamimi, former Chief Justice of PA Religious Court said last month, according to a translation newly provided by watchdog NGO Palestinian Media Watch.

“It is part of the religious belief of a billion and a half Muslims, and the Jews have no right to it… or the right to pray in any part of it. The Al-Aqsa Mosque includes all its courtyards… and specifically, its western wall,” al Tamimi said

Palestinian Authority Minister of Religious Affairs Mahmoud Al-Habbash also stated last month that non-Muslims should be barred from praying at the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound, which, according to him, includes the Western Wall.

“The Al-Aqsa Mosque will remain, by divine decree, a Muslim mosque, will not be shared with anyone, will not be forfeited, and no one besides Muslims will pray in it,” he said.

In an interview with the official PA television station in December last year, Al-Habbash stated that the Western Wall is “an authentic part of the Al-Aqsa Mosque only.”

During the same interview, Al-Habbash said that “freedom of worship in our Jerusalem is guaranteed to all,” but added that “nonetheless, we have rights, principles and positions that cannot possibly be altered.”

The Temple Mount compound, referred to by Muslims as the Al-Aqsa Mosque, is considered the third holiest site in Islam and the holiest site to Jews. By law, under arrangements Israel instituted after capturing the area in 1967, Jews are not allowed to pray at the site.

In February, Likud MK Moshe Feiglin initiated a first-of-its-kind Knesset debate to examine the right of non-Muslims to enter and pray at the holy compound, with over 30 MKs from both right-wing and left-wing parties seeking to voice their opinion on the divisive topic.

A resurgence of interest in prayer on the Temple Mount has provoked outrage among Palestinians and others in the Muslim world, who accuse Israel of attempting to “Judaize” the site, which Palestinians claim for their future state.

Read more: PA officials: Jews have 'no right to pray' at Western Wall | The Times of Israel http://www.timesofisrael.com/pa-official-jews-have-no-right-to-western-wall/#ixzz2xMtRIspR
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« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2014, 05:09:34 am »

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In an interview with the official PA television station in December last year, Al-Habbash stated that the Western Wall is “an authentic part of the Al-Aqsa Mosque only.”

In a world today of diversity and acceptance of other people's, Islam is about the most intolerant group in the world, and are willing to use physical force to further their agenda, even to the extent of stealing somebody elses religious grounds and banning them from it at the point of a sword. Talk about occupation!

Imagine a bunch of Protestants taking over the Vatican and telling Catholics they don't have any rights to Vatican City. How long would it be before the old crusaders of the RCC and the Jesuits would rise up in arms?

But Islam does it, and it's okay?  Roll Eyes

Not once so far have I heard anybody, not a single person, bring up this scenario as if it were on the other foot, with Jews taking control of Mecca and the black box, banning all Muslims from worship there. The Arab world would EXPLODE in war. There is no way Islam would allow it without a bloody battle.

But Islam thinks it's okay to do the same thing to others.

I really, really hate Islam!
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