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« on: June 01, 2013, 11:39:48 am »

Atheism is a religion

Hello my beloved atheist flock,
Behold. Atheism is a religion.

Proof:A religion is a set of laws, like the bible has the 10 commandments, Islam and Judaism has its laws.

Laws of atheism:
1. There is no god.
2. Anyone who believes in a god is stupid/dumb.
3. Science is the answer
4. Mr. Dawkins, Ron Hubbard and Charles Darwin are the "three wise men" of the RELIGION of ATHEISM.
5. There is no bigotry of a persons sexual orientation.and lots more...

A religion requires faith.Atheism has an absolute faith that there is no god, heaven or hell.

A religion requires devoutness.A devout atheist believes in his/her religion of atheism and will therefore not mix with "UNBELIEVERS", such as religiots. Nor believe their drivel or be convinced by it.

Also the true "RELIGIOUS ATHEIST" has no fear of the fire of hell. What a relief. No braai when we die.

A "Religion" has either a god/diety or prophet or both that started it. And for the all mighty atheist faith it was Mr. Dawkins. The prophet. But no god (notice no capital "g") required in this religion.

And finally we don't have to blow ourselves up to get to a nonexistent paradise above. We don't have to whip ourselves and repent.

By the way, us atheists get baptized every day when we have a bath or a shower. So we don't need to be baptized, cause every day we do it. So our "nonexistent sins" are washed away.

BELIEVE IN THE "RELIGION OF ATHEISM".

Repent from "theism" and be baptized.

Written by Atheist pastor, Peter The Romanaka. PETRUS ROMANUS

http://www.news24.com/MyNews24/Atheism-is-a-religion-20130531
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Written by Atheist pastor, Peter The Romanaka. PETRUS ROMANUS

FOR REAL??
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FOR REAL??

thats what it said  Cheesy
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1Tim 1:9  Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
1Ti 1:10  For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2013, 06:44:08 am »

Long backlog for godless wedding services in Ireland

By Tom Heneghan, Religion Editor

(Reuters) - Traditionally Catholic Ireland has allowed an atheist group to perform weddings this year for the first time, and the few people certified to celebrate them are overwhelmed by hundreds of couples seeking their services.

Demand for the Humanist Association of Ireland's secular weddings has surged as the moral authority of the once almighty Catholic Church collapsed in recent decades amid sex abuse scandals and Irish society's rapid secularization.

Until now, those who did not want a religious wedding could have only civil ceremonies. Outside of the registrar's office, only clergy were permitted to perform weddings.

But statistics show rising demand for non-Church weddings. In 1996, 90 percent of Irish weddings were performed by the Catholic Church or the Church of Ireland. But by 2010 that percentage had fallen to 69 percent.

The pent-up demand from those who want more than a civil ceremony in a registry office but reject a religious wedding has created a major backlog for the humanist group's ceremonies director.

Brian Whiteside, initially the only humanist "solemnizer" certified to legally marry couples, was already booked well into next year when the civil registry office agreed in late June to approve 10 others, taking some of the pressure off him.

"It remains very, very busy," Whiteside said. "We're all finding it difficult to keep up with the inquiries. We had 595 new inquiries in the first three months of this year, which in a little country like Ireland is quite a few."

The Irish parliament legalized secular wedding services last December, after a 10-year campaign by the Humanist Association. The law went into effect on January 1. Similar options are also allowed in Australia, Canada, Iceland, New Zealand, Norway, Scotland and some U.S. states.

COUPLE GAVE UP ON CATHOLICISM

Brendan Hastings, originally from South Africa, and his Irish bride Suzy Addis had Whiteside preside at their recent humanist wedding in Slane, a village north of Dublin.

Soft modern music accompanied the relaxed ceremony and the main reading was a passage on love from the 1994 novel Captain Corelli's Mandolin.

"Basically we are both atheists and didn't want a religious ceremony," said Hastings, at 32 a year older than Addis. "Other weddings we have gone to tended to be all about Jesus and we're not into that. We were both raised as Catholics but kind of gave it up."

Whiteside, a retired Dublin businessman, said he began presiding at humanist weddings back when they were simply a symbolic ceremony rather than the official act.

The association also offers strictly secular funerals and naming ceremonies, which have no legal status.

Being the only certified humanist celebrant for the first half of the year, Whiteside was officiating at one or two weddings per week. He was scheduled for about 90 weddings this year and about 50 in 2014.

"It became a sort of second career," he said. "I don't want to make a business out of this, but it means a lot to me."

The recent ruling means the work can now be divided among the other solemnizers - the Irish bureaucratic term for all legally recognized wedding celebrants - living in Dublin, Wicklow, Cork and Galway.

NOT FOR PROFIT

The law says solemnizers cannot work for profit. Whiteside said he usually asks 450 euros per wedding, although it might be more if long distance travel is involved.

"We don't have salaries, so we have to have some kind of income," he said, noting that priests had salaries and used their own churches for weddings.

That price is low compared to other countries. The Dutch Humanist Union sets a base price of 475 euros while rates in Germany and Austria, where humanist weddings cannot replace the official civil ceremony, go from 650 to over 1,000 euros.

Scotland legalized humanist ceremonies in 2005 and saw them jump from 100 that year to 2,846 in 2011. Humanist weddings are now the third most popular choice for Scottish couples after the Church of Scotland and the Catholic Church.

(Additional reporting by Cathal MacNaughton in Dublin)
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Some nonbelievers still find solace in prayer

Each morning and night, Sigfried Gold drops to his knees on the beige carpeting of his bedroom, lowers his forehead to the floor and prays to God.

In a sense.

An atheist, Gold took up prayer out of desperation. Overweight by 110 pounds and depressed, the 45-year-old software designer saw himself drifting from his wife and young son. He joined a 12-step program for food addiction that required — as many 12-step programs do — a recognition of God and prayer.

Four years later, Gold is trim, far happier in his relationships and free of a lifelong ennui. He credits a rigorous prayer routine — morning, night and before each meal — to a very vivid goddess he created with a name, a detailed appearance and a key feature for an atheist: She doesn’t exist.

While Gold doesn’t believe there is some supernatural being out there attending to his prayers, he calls his creation “God” and describes himself as having had a “conversion” that can be characterized only as a “miracle.” His life has been mysteriously transformed, he says, by the power of asking.

“If you say, ‘I ought to have more serenity about the things I can’t change,’ versus ‘Grant me serenity,’ there is a humility, a surrender, an openness. If you say, ‘grant me,’ you’re saying you can’t do it by yourself. Or you wouldn’t be there,” said Gold, who lives in Takoma Park.

While Gold’s enthusiasm for spiritual texts and kneeling to a “God” may make him unusual among atheists, his hunger for a transcendent experience with forces he can’t always explain turns out to be more common.

New research on atheists by the Pew Research Center shows a range of beliefs. Eighteen percent of atheists say religion has some importance in their life, 26 percent say they are spiritual or religious and 14 percent believe in “God or a universal spirit.” Of all Americans who say they don’t believe in God — not all call themselves “atheists” — 12 percent say they pray.

Responding to this diversity, secular chaplains are popping up at universities such as Rutgers, American and Carnegie Mellon, and parents are creating atheist Sunday schools, igniting debate among atheists over how far they should go in emulating their theist kin.

Atheists deny religion’s claim of a supernatural god but are starting to look more closely at the “very real effect” that practices such as going to church, prayer and observance of a Sabbath have on the lives of the religious, said Paul Fidalgo, a spokesman for the secular advocacy group the Center for Inquiry. “That’s a big hole in atheist life,” he said. “Some atheists are saying, ‘Let’s fill it.’ Others are saying, ‘Let’s not.’ ”

Prominent atheists, including writer Sam Harris, are exploring the spiritual value of “non-
ordinary states of consciousness,” he wrote in a recent essay. However, “there is a lot of resistance to that among other atheists, who think it sounds very hocus-pocusy,” Fidalgo said.

Gordon Melton, a historian of new American religions, said that it’s only been in the past decade that atheists have become organized and the range of their views has therefore become more known. Sociologists have also just begun asking more complex questions about faith to a wider range of respondents.

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Atheist Prayer: Religious Activity Not Uncommon Among Nonbelievers

Why would an atheist -- who by definition does not believe in God -- pray?

A Washington Post article by Michelle Boorstein spotlighted the fascinating phenomenon of a minority of atheists, agnostics and the religiously unaffiliated who take to prayer, chaplaincy and other commonly religious practices as a way to experience community with others, relax, meditate and connect to something other than the physical.

The Post leads with Sigfried Gold, who "drops to his knees on the beige carpeting of his bedroom, lowers his forehead to the floor and prays to God" twice a day.

While Gold doesn’t believe there is some supernatural being out there attending to his prayers, he calls his creation “God” and describes himself as having had a “conversion” that can be characterized only as a “miracle.” His life has been mysteriously transformed, he says, by the power of asking.

While Gold may be a unique example, he represents something bigger among the 20 percent of Americans who are religiously unaffiliated, as a recent national survey from the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life found. The survey, released in October, estimated there to be 46 million religiously unaffiliated adults in the U.S. That includes 13 million self-described atheists and agnostics and 33 million people who don't identify with any religion.

Among that broad group, which is commonly referred by researchers as the "nones," more than two-thirds of people said they believe in God, more than half said they frequently feel a deep spiritual connection with nature and the Earth, more than one-third see themselves as "spiritual but not religious," and one in five pray daily.

Among atheists and agnostics, 14 percent of said religion was "somewhat important" in their lives, while 17 percent said they took part in daily, weekly or monthly prayer

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« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2013, 09:22:16 am »

wonder when athiest's will start demanding worship to their "gods"...  Roll Eyes
prayer, churches, weddings...  Cheesy
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wonder when athiest's will start demanding worship to their "gods"...  Roll Eyes
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and now Chaplain's.

Outspoken Atheist Seeks Position As U.S. Navy Chaplain

An outspoken atheist is generating controversy in his pursuit of a position as an official United States Navy chaplain.
 
In applying for the chaplain position, 38-year-old Jason Heap points out that he earned master’s degrees from both Oxford University and Brite Divinity School, with substantial experience in human resources. He also successfully completed the necessary paperwork and all the required physical tests.
 
However, in order to be accepted as a Navy chaplain, all applicants must receive endorsements from religious organizations approved by the military. According to the Department of Defense website, this list of “ecclesiastical endorsing agents” includes representatives from over 200 different denominations and organizations. Although the majority of agents would be considered Christian, several other religions are included, such as Islam, Buddhism, Judaism and Unitarianism.
 
Heap claims that because he is endorsed by the Humanist Society, he should be offered the chaplain position. However, the Navy does not recognize the Humanist Society as an endorsing agent.

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However, in order to be accepted as a Navy chaplain, all applicants must receive endorsements from religious organizations approved by the military. According to the Department of Defense website, this list of “ecclesiastical endorsing agents” includes representatives from over 200 different denominations and organizations. Although the majority of agents would be considered Christian, several other religions are included, such as Islam, Buddhism, Judaism and Unitarianism.

Well, the Southern Baptist Convention has atheist members. And this guy will probably get endorsements from the likes of Billy Graham, Rick Warren, etc to boot.

So who knows? He might have a pretty decent chance. Shocked
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House Rejects Call to Allow Nonreligious Military Chaplains

House lawmakers late Tuesday (July 23) approved an amendment to a Pentagon spending bill to prevent the appointment of nonreligious military chaplains.

The amendment, sponsored by Rep. John C. Fleming, R-La., requires that only religious organizations be permitted to endorse chaplains for the military.

“The amendment holds the military to its current standards on endorsing agencies, which must be recognized religious and faith-based organizations,” said Fleming’s spokesman, Doug Sachtleben.

Currently, the Department of Defense recognizes more than 200 endorsing agents, all of them based on a belief in God. But there has been a recent push by Humanists, who do not recognize a supernatural divinity, to endorse their own military chaplains.

It is unclear if the amendment will affect the application of Jason Heap to become the Navy’s first Humanist chaplain. Heap, a 38-year-old graduate of Brite Divinity School and Oxford University, has the endorsement of the Humanist Society. His supporters are asking the Navy to add the society to its list of endorsers and appoint Heap a chaplain.

Jason Torpy, president of the Military Association of Atheists and Freethinkers, points out that military regulations already require that chaplains be endorsed — and not necessarily by an organization of believers in a divinity.

“The language [of the amendment] only requires adherence to the applicable instruction, which in no way restricts chaplains to only those who believe in some higher power,” he said. “Their amendment does nothing, so there’s nothing to be done in response. It just shows their ignorance about atheists, humanists, and military regulations.”

The amendment has the support of the Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty, an organization of Christian chaplains. In a statement issued Tuesday, Chaplain Ron Crews, a retired Air Force Colonel, said, “A fringe minority is advocating for atheists to be commissioned as chaplains, but the very nature of the word ‘chaplain’ suggests that the individual possesses a belief in God and a desire to minister to spiritual needs.”

The amendment, which was attached to the Department of Defense 2014 Appropriations bill, was passed with a vote of 253 to 173. The larger bill is slated for a full House vote on Wednesday, Sachtleben said. It has not yet been considered by the Senate.

http://www.religiontoday.com/blog/house-rejects-call-to-allow-nonreligious-military-chaplains.html
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« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2013, 07:04:28 am »

Honestly, not much of a difference it seems - as these "religious" chaplains come from these leavened and wicked seminaries that brainwash them with Alexandrian texts, which end up shipwrecking people's faith than not.
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Science could deliver the comforts of religion

Research suggests that a scientific worldview actually helps people cope with anxieties about their own mortality


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The claim that humans evolved from non-humans is among the best established in science. It is backed by overwhelming evidence from diverse sources and fits into a rich and elegant picture of the biological world, with modern humans appearing around 200,000 years ago, more than three billion years after the origins of life on earth. Yet, according to a Gallup survey, nearly half of Americans reject evolution, instead endorsing the view that “God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so.”

Why this resistance to human evolution? Religious commitments play a role, to be sure, but pointing to religion isn’t enough to explain why human evolution, in particular, engenders such a chilly reception in Americans’ hearts and minds. After all, a view of the solar system with humans at its center was eventually displaced (if ungracefully), and people aren’t nearly so troubled by the idea that plants evolve. There’s something special about human evolution—something that many find existentially upsetting, even untenable.

Research in experimental psychology offers a host of compelling explanations for why this could be. Perhaps humans are innately predisposed to creationism. Perhaps religious beliefs are “natural” and contemporary scientific commitments the psychological anomaly. There is something to be said for these claims, but if creationism—and the rejection of human evolution—is the belief toward which our species is naturally predisposed, we’re faced with an equally perplexing mystery: How is it that some people manage to embrace human evolution, and, indeed—to borrow Darwin’s phrase—to find “grandeur in this view of life”?

Can science, with its systematic approach to understanding nature, offer a satisfying portrait of the natural world and our place within it? Can science provide the same existential benefits typically thought to be the sole province of religion? Some recent psychological findings suggest that it can. But before turning to this new research, with its tantalizing promise of a psychologically fulfilling and scientifically grounded worldview, we need to understand the standard tale of why so many people reject human evolution in favor of creationist alternatives.

Is Creationism the “Natural” Human Belief?

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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2013, 05:06:02 pm »

When reading through this article, it hit me how the organized "Christian" church system is pretty much the SAME thing as ALL the other pagan religious(whether it's Catholicism, Freemasonry, Episcopalianism, etc). Odd how they are attacking Jesus and Christianity, but they are literally doing the SAME thing as the organized church system has been doing for many years.

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Pope Francis is significantly upping the Catholic Church's buzz quotient, but another congregation is hoping to take America (and other countries) by storm. Like Methodism and Episcopalianism, the Sunday Assembly is a British import, but with a difference: This church doesn't believe in God. It's motto is "live better, help often, and wonder more." It's striving to be a global atheist religion.

Stand-up comedians Sanderson Jones and Pippa Evans started the original Sunday Assembly in a decommissioned London church in January, and there are now five congregations in the Sunday Assembly Everywhere (SAE) denomination: Three in Britain, one in New York, and one in Melbourne, Australia. Starting Oct. 22, Evans and Jones are starting a "global missionary tour" to visit the four branch congregations and set up new ones in 18 other cities in Britain, Scotland, Ireland, the U.S., Canada, and Australia.

The stated goal is to have "a godless congregation in every town, city, and village that wants one" — and hopefully 30 to 40 by the end of December. If they reach that goal, the Sunday Assembly says in a press release, "the 3000 percent growth rate might make this non-religious Assembly the fastest growing church in the world, catering to the fastest growing belief / non-belief group."

There are certainly enough atheists, agnostics, and humanists to fill up the pews, if they're interested. A growing number of Americans and Europeans fall somewhere toward the skeptical end of the organized-religion spectrum. And they're getting better organized, even aggressive.

But how is the Sunday Assembly different than a civic organization or social club, or even a TED talk, that meets on Sundays? (Jones says the church-expansion model draws heavily from TEDx, which franchises TED conferences around the world.) Are the atheists just trying to troll Sunday (religious) churchgoers?

It appears Jones and Evans are earnest in their quest to found the great atheist church. Nimrod Kamer at Don't Panic walks us through a Sunday Assembly service, and introduces us to the proselytizers-in-chief. (Warning, Samuelson throws a few F-bombs during the service.):

Jones and Evans promise that the Assembly "will solace worries, provoke kindness, and inject a touch of transcendence into the everyday," and then they give a hint to some things a really good Rotary Club luncheon may not provide: "Life can be tough... It is. Sometimes bad things happen to good people, we have moments of weakness or life just isn't fair. We want The Sunday Assembly to be a house of love and compassion, where, no matter what your situation, you are welcomed, accepted and loved."

**This is no different from the typical 501c3, organized "Christian" church nowdays.

Katie Engelhart at Salon says she "did not need to be sold on the idea" of a godless church:

I don't think religion should have a monopoly on community. I like the idea of a secular temple, where atheists can enjoy the benefits of an idealized, traditional church — a sense of community, a thought-provoking sermon, a scheduled period of respite, easy access to community service opportunities, group singing, an ethos of self-improvement, free food — without the stinging imposition of God Almighty. [Salon] Harry Cheadle at Vice admits he started on his path toward atheism because he "wanted to stay home on Sundays." But the idea of an atheist church has him reconsidering his aversion to organized religion:

Since I'm an atheist, I'll base this claim on data: Studies have shown that those who go to church are happier, more optimistic, and healthier than others; attending religious services helps kids fight depression and by some (admittedly biased) accounts makes people more charitable. Obviously most atheists won't have a very good time gathering at a church or synagogue or temple where everyone is devoted to praising and beseeching an imaginary being, but if you believe these studies, they could do with attending something like church. [Vice]

Jones hopes that the Sunday Assemblies will start taking on some of the community functions traditionally performed by churches: Sunday school, weddings, funerals, non-religious baptisms (or "naming ceremonies"), among others.

**These "traditions of men" seem to never go away.

But a funny thing is happening as Jones and Evans try to expand their godless religion, says Salon's Engelhart: "As the 'atheist church; becomes more 'Church' than ever, it is working to downplay its Atheism." That may not sit well with committed atheists; Ian Dodd, one of the founders of the nascent Los Angeles branch, tells Salon he found Unitarian Universalism "a little diluted." Engelhard frets that "the Sunday Assembly refusing the 'atheist' label seems akin to Ms. Magazine deciding that 'feminist' is a bad word after all."

The draw of a like-minded community might well overcome all that. It won't be the first time atheists have tried to band together, Nick Spencer at Theos tells Britain's The Guardian. In the 19th century, non-religious people formed hundreds of "ethical unions," focused on good works and community, with services structured along the lines of a church liturgy. They lasted for a generation or two. Spencer explains:

The reason for that was because you need more than an absence to keep you together. You need a firm common purpose. What you can see in these modern-day atheist churches is people united by a felt absence of community. I suspect what brings them together is a real desire for community when in a modern, urbanized individualized city like London you can often feel very alone. That creates a lot of camaraderie, but the challenge then becomes, what actually unites us? [Spencer, to The Guardian]

*And this has been the big problem in these modern-day "Christian" churches - they focus much more on HORIZONTAL relationships, than with a relationship with THE FATHER IN HEAVEN(Jesus Christ).

Ephesians 4:4  There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
Eph 4:5  One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
Eph 4:6  One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
Eph 4:7  But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ
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Ian Dodd, the Los Angeles Assembly co-founder, isn't daunted by atheism's definitional lack of common faith: "The church model has worked really well for a couple of thousand years," he tells Salon. "What we're trying to do is hold on to the bath water while throwing out the baby Jesus."
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« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2013, 05:18:36 pm »

But how is the Sunday Assembly different than a civic organization or social club, or even a TED talk, that meets on Sundays? (Jones says the church-expansion model draws heavily from TEDx, which franchises TED conferences around the world.) Are the atheists just trying to troll Sunday (religious) churchgoers?

So they got their model from TEDx/TED conferences?

Apparently, youtube took down the video exposing Rick Warren's "God smiles when you be you" lie he said at a TED conference a few years ago. Anyhow - a supposedly "Christian" pastor was speaking at this very conference that this atheist church models themselves off of.
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When reading through this article, it hit me how the organized "Christian" church system is pretty much the SAME thing as ALL the other pagan religious(whether it's Catholicism, Freemasonry, Episcopalianism, etc). Odd how they are attacking Jesus and Christianity, but they are literally doing the SAME thing as the organized church system has been doing for many years.

Thats because the whole modern church system came from the Catholic church. All of it. And the whole Catholic church system came from Babylon.  Shocked
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That pretty much sums it up! Pagans, all of them.
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Bill Maher Says Atheism Will Be the 'New Gay Marriage,' Grow in Acceptance
Comedian and TV host Bill Maher has claimed that atheism will be "the new gay marriage" in terms of social acceptance, as more and more non-believers will "come out of the closet."


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Well Bill, the reason we have so many sodomites is because of the rejection of the Lord already. It is a JUDGMENT from God on America, and foolishly we fully embrace and revel in it.


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Mat 24:39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
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Sunday Assembly: A Godless Service Coming to a 'Church' Near You

Sanderson Jones, who grew up in a religious British family, described the death of his mother when he was only 10 and his subsequent loss of faith as a "cataclysmic catastrophic event."
 
He loved the rituals of the Christian church in which he was raised, but could not get his head around why God would allow cancer to take his mother -- a Sunday school teacher with five children -- at the age of 42.
 
"Losing faith meant that she had to die twice," said Sanderson, now 32 and living in London. "Once when she went to heaven and then when I realized heaven didn't exist. It meant I had to work out a way to understand life and for me, it was realizing that instead of being angry that she was taken away so soon, I became overjoyed that I had ever been loved by her at all."
 
So today, Sanderson, an atheist and stand-up comedian known for selling his show tickets by hand, leads the Sunday Assembly, a community of godless congregants that began in London and is now being exported to the United States.
 


From Oct. 20, when its crowd-sourcing campaign begins, to Dec. 15, the assembly will launch 30 new groups in Britain, Canada, Australia and the United States.
 
Recently, at the first-ever service in the English seaside town of Brighton, 240 atheists turned up for sermon-like speakers, readings, singing -- and all the things you would expect in a religious setting.
 
"We talk about developing an attitude of gratitude," Sanderson told ABCNews.com. "It's catchy, isn't it?"
 
"It's like TED for the soul," he said referring to the nonprofit devoted to new ideas.
 
Sanderson said he was tired of the dour meetings held by the Humanists and the Unitarians.
 
"Why on earth aren't people clapping and dancing around and jumping up and down at those gatherings?" he asked.
 
Sanderson concedes that "church" in the U.S. has "certain bad associations" but, he says, the idea of organized atheism is catching on.
 
More than 400 atheists have recently signed up online to attend a Sunday Assembly in Los Angeles scheduled for Nov. 10.
 
In New York City in June, more than 130 met in an Irish pub and the numbers are growing. Sanderson admits that a bar is not the ideal meeting place, but a start.
 
Groups in Chicago, Washington, D.C., San Diego, San Francisco, Atlanta, Nashville, and Phoenix, among others, are also forming.
 
"We wanted to do something like a church for people who don't believe in God," said Sanderson. "Life is such a wonderful thing to have been given -- and frankly, it's as transcendent as any one god. We come from nothing and go to nothing and in between we have these short glazing moments of awareness and consciousness to love and sing and mess up and try again. We should celebrate it."
 
Sanderson leads many of the services with his friend and co-leader Pippa Evans, who is also a stand-up comedian.
 
"We call ourselves hosts," he said. "We think of it like a host at a party, serving them and making them feel welcome."
 
The assembly is also hoping to offer church-like rituals for life's big events -- marriage, birth and death. "It's a shame conventional funerals aren't celebratory enough," said Sanderson.
 
"People who go to church are healthier, wealthier, live longer and are happier," he said. "One of the best things about church is that it is a safe place for everyone and appeals to people with families as well."
 
The phenomenon could tap into a growing group of nonbelievers in the United States.
 
According to Pew Research Center's Religion & Public Life Project, there has been an increase in the number of American adults who say they seldom attend religious services and those who do not identify with any religion at all.
 
About one-fifth of the public overall -- and a third of adults under age 30 -- is religiously unaffiliated as of 2012, according to Pew Research.
 
Fully a third of U.S. adults say they do not consider themselves a "religious person." And two-thirds of Americans -- affiliated and unaffiliated alike -- say religion is losing its influence in Americans' lives.
 
About 5 percent of all Americans say they do not believe in God or a universal spirit, but only about one quarter of these nonbelievers actually call themselves atheists.
 
One, Roy Speckhardt, who is executive director of the American Humanist Association, likes the idea of the Sunday Assembly, citing its "technology, entertainment and humor."
 
"It's not like what we have done before with weekly lectures and a gathering lunch afterwards," he told ABCNews.com.
 
"Our meetings are mostly academic and somewhat social. That's nice, but it's not quite the community atmosphere that you get in a modern church today. [The Sunday Assembly] has taken pages from of the book from the new churches in the Northwest top get their message across."
 
"The megachurch environment is the highest level of entertainment and not just a weekly moment with your pastor -- it's much more structured than that. It's working in a big way in the UK and could definitely work here, too," he said of the Sunday Assembly.
 
The American Humanists do "good without a god," he said, and are an advocacy organization in science, politics and legal work.
 
Speckhardt agrees that the Sunday Assembly could tap into the large group of nonbelievers in the United States. But, he warns, "Atheists are a tough group to get together for a lot of reasons. … [They] have been burned by the religious environment and don't want to do church-like things."
 
But many nonbelievers "could come out of the woodwork later if a certain critical mass is reached," he said.
 
Speckhardt points to other Pew studies that show one third of Americans "connected to their faith" do not believe in God.
 
"They are ripe for this," he said. "If 1.5 Catholics are not sure there is a god, that's over 500,000 people. There is a mind-boggling potential."
 
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Recently, at the first-ever service in the English seaside town of Brighton, 240 atheists turned up for sermon-like speakers, readings, singing -- and all the things you would expect in a religious setting.

So they're doing the SAME things the modern-day organized "Christian" church system is doing?
 
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"We wanted to do something like a church for people who don't believe in God," said Sanderson. "Life is such a wonderful thing to have been given -- and frankly, it's as transcendent as any one god. We come from nothing and go to nothing and in between we have these short glazing moments of awareness and consciousness to love and sing and mess up and try again. We should celebrate it."

FWIW, one time I commented to a fellow Christian how we should be looking forward to the rapture of the church - guess what, he commented to me ALMOST THE SAME THING! "Why?! Life is just so wonderful on this earth!" was what he said!
 
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"People who go to church are healthier, wealthier, live longer and are happier," he said. "One of the best things about church is that it is a safe place for everyone and appeals to people with families as well."

Isn't that what the "Christian Prosperity Gospel" teaches? Roll Eyes

Seriously - it's amazing how a lot of what is going on in these heathen cults is exactly what is going on in Churchianity!
 
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Stand-Up Comedians Launch International Tour in Effort to Establish Atheist ‘Churches’ Worldwide

Two stand-up comedians that lead an atheist ‘church’ in the UK will be embarking on an international tour this month in an effort to establish atheist fellowships worldwide.

The “40 Dates and 40 Nights” roadshow will hit 22 locations around the globe, including in the United States, where events will take place in Chicago, Washington, D.C., San Francisco, Nashville, Atlanta and other major cities.

As previously reported, in January of this year, stand-up comedians Sanderson Jones and Pippa Evans organized a gathering, originally held at the Nave in Canonbury, called “Sunday Assembly.” As Jones is an atheist and Evans an agnostic, instead of having worship and prayer, the gathering features secular music performed by an in-house band and special speakers, such as authors and fellow comics.

“It’s part atheist church and part foot-stomping show,” Jones told reporters. “We just want people to feel encouraged and excited when they leave.”

“The Sunday Assembly is a godless congregation that celebrate life,” adds the organization’s website. “Our mission: to help everyone find and fulfill their full potential. Our motto: live better, help often, wonder more.”

During the service, an offering is received for the various projects of “Sunday Assembly” and fellowship is available afterward over free tea.

Jones told ABC News that he was raised in the Christian church, but when his mother died at the age of ten, he couldn’t understand why God would allow her to die of cancer. As a result, he turned to atheism.

“Losing faith meant that she had to die twice,” the 32-year-old told the outlet. “Once when she went to Heaven and then when I realized Heaven didn’t exist. It meant I had to work out a way to understand life and for me, it was realizing that instead of being angry that she was taken away so soon, I became overjoyed that I had ever been loved by her at all.”

Jones and Evans are now on a mission to spread their godless assembly to cities around the globe.

“Our vision: a godless congregation in every town, city and village that wants one,” their website states.

The “40 Dates and 40 Nights” roadshow will be held throughout the U.K. and Ireland, Australia, Canada and the United States. According to reports, over 400 people have signed up to attend the event in Los Angeles next month.

“The church model has worked really well for a couple of thousand years,” Ian Dodd, who is launching the Los Angeles chapter, told Salon. “What we’re trying to do is hold on to the bath water while throwing out the baby Jesus.”

Nicole Steeves, who is overseeing the Chicago plant, agreed.

“I have keenly felt the absence of what I think are the best parts of a church: friendships built on common beliefs; a built-in network of helpers for child care, sickness, etc.,” she told the publication.

In addition to efforts to plant new “churches” around the world, Jones and Evans plan to establish an online platform that will assist the new sites.

“When there are hundreds and—if all goes to plan—thousands of communities on the site, it will be a Wikipedia for good deeds and open sourced community action,” Jones stated.

While Jones and Evans state that they believe the concept of an atheist “church” will be successful, others note that there are already a lot of people who attend Christian churches who are not born again believers.

“[Y]ou might not realize it, but not everyone in church is a Christian,” said Jim Duke of Trinity Worship Center in Albany, New York. “You see, Christians are not defined as those who acknowledge Jesus Christ. If that were the case, Satan would be Christian, and so would his demons, as Satan believes Jesus exists. He just doesn’t give Him any reverence. And neither do those in your circles who say they know God, tell you they believe in Jesus, but give more reverence to their favorite baseball team.”

“Many Christian churches … are filled with people. But, are they filled with Christians?” he concluded. “Jesus said you will know them by their fruit.”

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And NOW you see the rotten fruit of these "Christian" church BUILDINGS - how often do you see people that went to these churches throughout their childhood/youth years, but then fell away once they went off to college?

From my experiences, pretty much everyone from the pastor to the deacons to the sunday school teachers, etc, etc just did NOT know how to give an answer, much less know how to look in the scriptures when they were approached with questions like this. Not surprising, as they're either using corrupt bible versions and/or using these dead sunday school materials.
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(Non)Mass movement: Atheist mega-churches take Western world by storm

Singing songs, clapping hands, praising acts of giving and community work – all the things present in a Church have now found an official home in so-called ‘atheist mega-churches’, a quirky idea spreading like wildfire across the Western world.

One of the latest countries to come into contact with the trend is the United States, with dozens of gatherings by those sharing in their non-belief in God planned ahead. A similar situation can be seen happening in Australia and Canada. But it all started in the United Kingdom in January 2013, when two popular comedians started seeking an outlet for their feelings on the subject.

Sanderson Jones and Pippa Evans then embarked on a quest to collect hundreds of thousands of dollars to help atheists the world over connect with each other, do good deeds and laugh in the kind of community atmosphere a Church would offer – except without God.

The Associated Press reported from Los Angeles on Sunday, where several hundred people gathered to do just that – as they had been doing more and more in places like New York, San Diego, Nashville and others.

Jones and Evans have dedicated an entire comedy tour around the US and Australia – called ‘40 days, 40 nights’ – to raise $800,000 to establish such congregations around the globe. They have just passed the $50,000 mark.

What is perhaps unexpected of Jones’ and Evans’ atheism is their refusal to crucify believers in God. In fact it is just the opposite. Jones remembers being very moved six years ago by the feeling of a Christmas carol concert, which, sadly for him, was just short of what he was looking for.

"There was so much about it that I loved, but it's a shame because at the heart of it, it's something I don't believe in," Jones explains to his 'disciples'. "If you think about church, there's very little that's bad. It's singing awesome songs, hearing interesting talks, thinking about improving yourself and helping other people. And doing that in a community with wonderful relationships. What part of this is not to like?” 
The fact that that is what the WORLD chuch is all aboutm thats why your fits in so well. A rela churhc your Gods Words to man, and they wll convict you of our sins. BIG difference. This church is just like anyother 501c3 chuchianity place in the world. Rom 10:17  So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.


He told RT at one of the group's London congregations that "I think that, just because you don't believe in God, doesn't mean you don't want to hear really interesting talks, to think about improving yourself, to sing with others and have a cup of tea with them at the end. This is really all the best things about Church, but without the one thing I'm uncomfortable with - which is the religion part."

Although the Sunday Assembly – as its founders christened it – is a godless place and not an official religious institution, it is marked by a uniquely religious atmosphere. Evans would enter, followed by a band playing classic rock hits. Queen’s ‘Don’t Stop Me Now’ is the anthem. There is a ‘service’, with reading, discussion, moments for reflection, and activities directed at engaging the members in getting to know each other. But a lot of this has a very serious mission – to engage in community work and the setting up of projects.

Just like a real Church, there is a sermon. But it is dedicated to questions about the universe and things like quantum theory and anti-matter, all very tongue-in-cheek.

All this is then tied up with Stevie Wonder’s ‘Superstition’, with everyone standing up to sing.

“The Sunday Assembly is a godless congregation that celebrates life. Our motto: live better, help often, wonder more. Our mission: to help everyone find and fulfill their full potential. Our vision: a godless congregation in every town, city and village that wants one.”

So says the homepage of the organization set up to promote Jones’ and Evans’ atheist congregations. Founded in January this year, it went from its cradle in an East London community center to sending out press releases containing expansion plans, coupled with a 3,000 percent growth in the several months the movement was in operation.

Jones and Evans are confident that the world is looking at “the fastest growing church in the world,” as Alternet cites them as saying. And this was before the giant fund-raising campaign-slash-comedy-tour was launched.

And the duo’s initiative is far from a joke, as the rise of their movement coincides with the increasing view that there are more atheists in America than previously thought. So claims the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life, after discovering that the percentage of atheist responders to their survey has risen by 5 percent in the course of five years, to 20 percent. That group was further broken down into categories that view themselves as either ‘spiritual’, or believers – but not in an organized religion.

In Britain, a quarter describe themselves as having no religion at all, and that figure is going up by about 750,000 people each year. Meanwhile, Christianity is losing believers at an incredible pace - more than half a million followers annually. At those speeds, the number of atheists is projected to overtake the number of believers by 2030, RT's Polly Boiko reported from London. 



"The congregations are getting older and older. And I think we're getting now to the stage where there are second and third generations of people who've just never been to a Church. More and more people are finding that the Church is not relevant, particularly when the leaders of Churches taking positions on women's rights and gay rights, which are totally [different] from what people in the congregation think," said Keith Porteous Wood, Executive Director at the National Secular Society.

Each place where the movement takes root also has its own reasons for allowing it to flourish, explained Phil Zuckerman, professor of secular studies at Pitzer College in Claremont, US.

"In the US, there's a little bit of a feeling that if you're not religious, you're not patriotic. I think a lot of secular people say, 'Hey, wait a minute. We are charitable, we are good people, we're good parents and we are just as good citizens as you and we're going to start a church to prove it… it’s still a minority, but there’s enough of them now.”

Naysayers of course exist, even among the atheist camp. Some of them flat-out do not believe a movement so closely resembling religion should be set up for anything indicating a lack of belief. Others are pessimistic about the movement’s growth because they think atheism for many is the exact opposite of community.

Roy Spekchardt, executive director of the America Humanist Association, told Alternet that the one strong challenge he sees to the movement is that "it tends to overlook the fact that the majority of involved atheists and humanists aren’t actually interested in personally being involved in a congregation atmosphere.”

But as criticism continues to pour in – and is expected – the Sunday Assembly continues to grow at a rapid rate. 

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And this is why the organized modern-day church system is seriously leavened - they spend WAY too much time singing hymns. Over 1/2 of the time, you don't even know the words you are singing/saying b/c they do it too much. No understanding, ultimately.
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"Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue." 1 Corinthians 14:19 (KJB)
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Atheist Agenda Wants You to Turn Your Back on Christ

Anything the gay agenda can do, the atheists can do better. That seems to be the unbeliever’s mantra for 2013 as godless radicals rise up not only for recognition—and not only to tear down all things Christian in the public square—but to actually woo born-again Bible believers to the dark side.

Call it reverse evangelism. A growing number of atheist activists are no longer content with “freedom from religion” campaigns that seek to keep the local football stars from wearing John 3:16 on their helmets or to stop Christmas caroling on elementary school campuses. This new breed of atheist activism wants to inject doubt into your doctrine with its own brand of Christless charisma.

Consider Peter Boghossian, a philosophy instructor and author of a hot new book dubbed A Manual for Creating Atheists. Yes, it’s actually a book that aims to equip nonbelievers with the skills they need to talk believers into willfully turning their back on Christ. This atheist is hoping to drive Christians into full-blown apostasy.

“Faith is an unreliable reasoning process,” Boghossian told Religion News Service. “It will not take you to reality. So we need to help people value processes of reasoning that will lead them to the truth.”

Jesus is the truth. He’s also the way and the life. (See John 14:6.)

Nevertheless, Boghossian’s book offers specific reverse-evangelism techniques, such as avoiding facts and working instead to get someone to question what they believe, avoiding any show of frustration because so-called “de-conversion” takes longer than conversion, and avoiding politics because they sidetrack the discussion.

Meanwhile, there are bona fide atheist megachurches springing up across the U.S. These groups reportedly look like any other Sunday morning worship service—except that God is not in the mix. It’s a godless church. According to CBN, British comedians Sanderson Jones and Pippa Evans founded the movement and plan to kick-start more anti-God assemblies in the U.S.

"I think the image that we have put forward in a lot of ways has been a scary, mean, we want to tear down the walls, we want to do destructive things kind of image is what a lot of people have of us," atheist Elijah Senn told CBN. "I'm really excited to be able to come together and show that it's not about destruction. It's about making things and making things better."

Except that the radical atheist agenda is about destruction. It’s about destroying the faith of others. And it was Jesus who said, “He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters abroad” (Matt. 12:30). Building atheist megachurches is drawing people—whether they are already atheists, agnostic or just don’t know what they believe—away from true worship. We’re now competing with aggressive atheists to win the hearts and minds of lost souls on Sunday mornings.

Some atheists are taking another approach: infiltrating the church to plant seeds of doubt. I wrote about that in a recent column, "Wolves in Sheep’s Clothing Actively Working in Pentecostal Church." An unbeliever I call “Wolf” because he won’t reveal his true identity details his plans to integrate with a friend into a “highly conservative religious community without informing the community that [they] are skeptics,” then look for opportunities to minister and serve before his planned apostasy takes place about a year later. Wolf’s self-proclaimed personal Lord and Savior is named “Doubt.”

All of this was in November alone, as was the revelation that atheists are using the YouVersion of the Bible to evangelize unbelief. Some atheists are trying to position themselves as “friendly,” like Hemant Mehta, author of the Friendly Atheist blog who offered to raise money to cover the medical bills of a pastor who was attacked by a militant atheist.

But some atheists are still angry, including long-distance swimmer Diana Nyad who got up in arms against Oprah because she wouldn’t acknowledge Nyad's atheism. Oprah's October Super Soul Sunday program sparked a firestorm in the atheist community, which refuses to be marginalized in its year of momentum.

It goes on and on and on. I’ve just offered a few examples from October and November. So here’s the question: Could an atheist talk you out of your faith? Don’t answer too quickly.

Gay activists have already succeeded in getting many Christians—even pastors and bishops—to compromise the Word of God for the sake of inclusion, unity and perhaps fear of persecution. If the gay agenda can convince Christian leaders to pervert the gospel, then is it so far-fetched to think the atheist agenda could cause believers to doubt what they believe?

I don’t think so. I believe all of these forces—the gay agenda, the atheist agenda and other humanist agendas—are converging on the church in this hour. Peter warned us that the "adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour” (1 Pet. 5:8). That devil doesn’t always look like a devil or sound like a roaring lion. More often he sounds like tolerance or doubt. Much of the battle still rests in the minds of the believer. What will we ultimately believe? Will we take the Word of God literally, or will we look at it through the eyes of the spirit of the world?

I urge you not to compromise the Word of God for any agenda. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: The great falling away isn’t too far away (2 Thess. 2:1-4). Those who endure to the end shall be saved (Matt. 24:13). That said, don’t fear these devilish agendas. Remember, Jesus said, “I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it” (Matt. 16:18).


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And we're seeing this in the organized, modern-day church system today(as well as these corrupt bible versions) - the more you read these corrupt bible versions, and the more you expose yourself to these 501c3 "church" services, the more doubt into the true doctrine gets planted in your mind.

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"I think the image that we have put forward in a lot of ways has been a scary, mean, we want to tear down the walls, we want to do destructive things kind of image is what a lot of people have of us," atheist Elijah Senn told CBN. "I'm really excited to be able to come together and show that it's not about destruction. It's about making things and making things better."

And Rick Warren quoted in one of his books years ago how his agenda is to tear down the old walls and build up new ones.

Wicked. Wicked. Wicked.

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It goes on and on and on. I’ve just offered a few examples from October and November. So here’s the question: Could an atheist talk you out of your faith? Don’t answer too quickly.

Gay activists have already succeeded in getting many Christians—even pastors and bishops—to compromise the Word of God for the sake of inclusion, unity and perhaps fear of persecution. If the gay agenda can convince Christian leaders to pervert the gospel, then is it so far-fetched to think the atheist agenda could cause believers to doubt what they believe?

Ultimately, when anyone tries to get you to doubt something in the word of God - first thing to ask them is, "Please show me chapter and verse out of the King James Bible?". THAT should be a stumbling block to them!

1Peter 2:6  Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
1Pe 2:7  Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
1Pe 2:8  And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
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« Reply #27 on: November 27, 2013, 10:12:27 pm »

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11/26/13
Ronald Reagan's Son Records Atheist Radio Ad: 'Not Afraid Of Burning In Hell'

Ron Reagan, the son of former President Ronald Reagan, has recorded a radio ad promoting the Freedom From Religion Foundation. The ad has been running on the progressive radio program "The Randi Rhodes Show."

In the ad, which has been running all month, the former Air America host and atheist advocate warns listeners of the “intrusions of religion into our secular government” and asks them to join FFRF in the organization's efforts against religion in politics:

I’m Ron Reagan, an unabashed atheist, and I’m alarmed by the intrusions of religion into our secular government. That’s why I’m asking you to join the Freedom From Religion Foundation -- the nation’s largest and most effective organization of atheists and agnostics, working to keep state and church separate. Phone 1-800-335-4021 or visit the Freedom From Religion Foundation at FFRF.ORG. Ron Reagan, lifelong atheist, not afraid of burning in hell.

In 2004, three weeks after his father's death, Reagan told The New York Times that he would be an "unelectable" candidate for president because of his secular affiliations.

"I’m unelectable. I’m an atheist. As we all know, that is something people won't accept,” Reagan said.

Reagan, who stopped attending church at the age of 12, has also served as an outspoken advocate of stem-cell research, criticizing religious justifications for opposition to the scientific exploration.

“It does not follow that the theology of a few should be allowed to forestall the health and well-being of the many,” Reagan said of stem-cell research at the 2004 Democratic National Convention.

In 2009, Reagan was awarded FFRF's Emperor Has No Clothes Award, and he spoke at the 32nd annual convention of the FFRF, where he touched upon the negative impact of religion on politics.

"Religion may indeed inspire acts of great kindness and courage. But it also trains people to believe things for which there is no evidence. This makes religion’s intrusion into the political sphere all the more troubling," Reagan said during the speech.

“We’re so grateful to Ron Reagan for recording this commercial for FFRF, and for being willing to speak out publicly as an atheist for so many years,” FFRF Co-President Annie Laurie Gaylor said in a news release Monday.

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Hey Ron Jr - the reason why your father got Alzheimer's was likely b/c his administration legalized ASPERTAME in food/drink products(which he probably consumed himself as well), which has been one of the factors of this disease!
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"I’m unelectable. I’m an atheist. As we all know, that is something people won't accept,” Reagan said.

It's stupid to claim to be an atheist. THAT is why your unelectable. People can't trust your sense of logic and reason.  Roll Eyes
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Humanists put faith to test by giving schools free copies of atheist ‘bible’



A free copy of a secularist text called The Young Atheist’s Handbook is being sent to every secondary school in England and Wales, in a drive to help teenagers live well without recourse to religion.

The initiative, which is solely funded by public donations, is the latest effort from the British Humanist Association (BHA) to support the teaching of humanist ideas in schools.

The Young Atheist’s Handbook, written by science teacher Alom Shaha, recounts his personal journey, from growing up as a Muslim in a Bangladeshi community in south-east London to eventually rejecting Islam and embracing atheism. It also includes his reflections on philosophy and theology.

The idea of sending the handbook to schools was brought forward by another science teacher, Ian Horsewell, who approached the BHA after reading the text himself.

Mr Shaha told The Independent that he hoped the scheme would expose young people to ideas beyond their upbringing. “Young people don’t buy books,” he said. “But I wrote it with the hope that it would be read by teenagers.

“This is a fantastic way of just putting my book out there so that a few more young people might have access to it or stumble across it.

“I want to be very clear that this is not about proselytising – it’s not about converting people. It is just about giving people the opportunity to  see another point of view.

Andrew Copson, chief executive of the BHA, said of the initiative: “We couldn’t be happier that young people everywhere will now have access to this wonderful book.

“Alom’s message will no doubt inspire young people who are looking to find fulfilment and meaning in their lives, whatever their family background.”

Mr Copson added that he believes the introduction of Mr Shaha’s book into schools’ libraries will provide balance to the views and belief systems currently available to students during their education.

“In a large number of schools, pupils will have access to a number of religious perspectives on life’s bigger questions, but not what most non-religious people believe and how they find happiness and satisfaction,” he said.

“We believe schools should be places where pupils are free to encounter the full range of philosophies and world-views available to them in modern Britain.”

The Young Atheist’s Handbook: Extracts

* “I feel that it is deeply unfair that some people may never experience the joy of knowing that they can lead a perfectly happy life, full of meaning and purpose, without God.”

* “I think the idea that it is immoral to not believe in God is perhaps the most insidious one that parents encourage to take root in the minds of young children."


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