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« on: November 09, 2010, 06:11:13 am »

Alien Disclosure: Don't be Fooled

April 23, 2010
By Stan Deyo

In early October of 2000 when Holly and I still lived on our farm in Australia we flew to Colorado to check out a place where we planned to move in the coming year. During that trip I was asked by Dr. Steven Greer to give my testimony on video for his disclosure project, which was ostensibly formed to force the U.S. Government and other major nations of the world to officially announce the presence of aliens on our planet.

Dr. Steven Greer had a friend of his interview me in a two-hour, videotaped session at a private home near NORAD. Holly videotaped Dr. Greer's friend and me as he took my testimony regarding my knowledge of the 'alien' presences and agenda here on Earth.

Holly and I returned home to Australia and eventually moved to Colorado in early 2001. To my surprise Dr. Greer never used the interview nor referenced the content of it in his drive to force disclosure. In fact, we never heard from him again. We wondered why he had ignored my testimony when it was he who called for it.

Then, today (23 April 2010), I received an email from the Disclosure Project announcing that Dr. Greer is holding a special training course here in Colorado in the San Luis Valley at Crestone in June this year. As his email states, the course will train people to become "ambassadors to the Universe." The email (which is shown below) also states, "This nearly weeklong intensive prepares you to make open, peaceful contact with Extraterrestrial civilizations as a citizen-diplomat from Earth."

Stan Note: Coincidentally, there is a zuggurat in Crestone. The original ziggaruat was called The Towel of Babel in the time of Nimrod when mankind attempted to reach the heavens to ascend to the ranks of gods. (Photo by Madjag)

At first glance one might assign such an endeavor to the 'woo-woo' activities of a bunch of UFO groupies. However, if one realizes this is part of a huge deception to fool the people of Earth into a global dictatorship backed by the 'alien' presence on Earth the situation becomes more serious and the disclosure more imminent.

In my book, The Cosmic Conspiracy - Final Edition 2010, (which is fresh off the presses today) I warn in great detail about this great deception and what will happen when the alleged 'full disclosure' is finally made. Dr. Greer's 'aliens' will not be what they claim to be. They will claim to be our creators and will be led by a being posing as the God of the Torah and more, as I found in re-translating just eight verses from the book of Daniel in the Bible.

I have warned of this moment in time for over 33 years in my books, public lectures, radio interviews, television documentaries and personal testimony. It is urgent that all who seek the truth of these times read my book while they are still allowed to do so and before the deceptive disclosure is made.

May you be wise and may you...


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CSETI Ambassador to the Universe Training


Crestone, Colorado - June 13-19, 2010

Registration and details: http://www.CSETI.org/programs/Trainings.htm
Schedule of Events: http://www.CSETI.org/programs/upcoming.htm


DON'T MISS THIS FABULOUS OPPORTUNITY to join Dr. Steven Greer in the mysterious San Luis Valley of Colorado, USA.

This nearly weeklong intensive prepares you to make open, peaceful contact with Extraterrestrial civilizations as a citizen-diplomat from Earth.

Topics covered include:


CSETI CE-5 Protocols to initiate contact with ETs using consciousness, coherent thought, lasers, electromagnetic signals, and group processes

The nature of mind and how to experience the unbounded, cosmic aspect of consciousness always within us. This will include specific meditation techniques to experience cosmic consciousness, achieve natural remote viewing and precognition abilities, and other aspects of higher states of consciousness

A direct experience of the structure of the cosmos that integrates the unified field of cosmic awareness, space/time, matter, electromagnetism, and the subtle realms of thought/light - and how these interface with ET technologies and communication systems

Practice with the CSETI CE-5 Protocols and learning to discern ET spacecraft from man-made classified technologies.

An in-depth understanding of who is behind ET related secrecy - and why

How to create a CSETI Contact team in your area and initiate on-going peaceful contact with ET civilizations

The new and wondrous sciences dealing with free energy from the vacuum, antigravity, and other technologies that will give us a sustainable, peaceful future on Earth

A glimpse of the future: How humanity will evolve over the next 500,000 years to become enlightened people who will become Extraterrestrial visitors to other planets

Looks to me like the Disclosure Project is just another New-Age front.
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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2010, 06:20:02 am »

Alien Conditioning article.

Aliens: the next spiritual mentors ?

Columnist: Candace Talmadge

While the premise of aliens — intelligent non-human life — is one of the driving themes of speculative fiction and movies, most works in these genres eschew any direct talk of spirituality, religion, or faith, alien or human. There are some exceptions, however.

Enemy Mine, a 1985 science fiction film derived from an award-winning 1979 novella, depicts an intergalactic war between human beings and an alien race called the Drac. Marooned by their battle-damaged space fighters on an isolated, inhospitable planet, a Drac and a man start off as enemies. Out of survival necessity, however, they make a wary peace.

Eventually, the two become the dearest of friends. The Drac shows a sense of his own spirituality and the divine. The Drac reads frequently from a small book of religious/philosophical text, and often ponders the larger questions of life, speaking about them with his newfound human companion.

Ultimately, the alien’s faith and friendship motivate the human being to consider something other than his prestige as a top-scoring fighter pilot focused solely on advancing his military career. The alien reminds the man that life is so much more than just a scramble for conquest and material success. The human being is much better off for having learned to respect and even love an alien as a being of great faith and courage.

Another example of speculative fiction that directly addresses spirituality is the Green Stone of Healing series. It features an intelligent non-human being, known as a Mist-Weaver, who exhibits capabilities that human beings more readily ascribe to angels or the supernatural. The Mist-Weaver is able to appear and dissolve at will, transitioning from material to non-material realities in much the same manner as the divine heralds of earthly religious traditions.

As would an angel, the Mist-Weaver takes a physical form to converse easier with the human characters. The Mist-Weaver clearly has a profound sense of the divine and his connection to it and to all life, and tries to encourage that spiritual connection in his human counterparts. But his spiritual teachings often leave them baffled because they are very different from human understanding. The Mist-Weaver’s presence spurs his human students to examine the limitations of their faith and their spiritual understanding, just as the burning bush, signaling God’s presence, presented Moses with challenges of faith and self-growth.

Although the Mist-Weaver is more spiritually advanced than the human beings he interacts with, he does not try to dictate human behavior or beliefs, solve human problems, or protect his human students from the consequences of their actions. He is no deus ex machina waving a magic wand and righting all wrongs. In taking a hands-off approach, he might seem indifferent to some, but just the opposite is true. He heals one character of a broken finger and further injuries and often tries to comfort others in their most desperate hours.

The Mist-Weaver simply refuses to intervene out of his abiding respect for and more advanced understand of the true meaning of free will. Well-intentioned human beings often disregard others’ free will and rush in, foolishly, where wiser angels fear to tread. Perhaps that’s what makes this alien truly strange. The Mist-Weaver doesn’t suffer from that all-too-human inclination to run other people’s lives or to believe that God is a similar micro-manager.

A third example of speculative fiction portraying intelligent non-human beings with a highly developed spirituality is Alien Nation. Most of these on-screen “Newcomers” are just regular folks, although there are villains in their midst, too. But the average alien Joes and Jills have jobs, houses, children, and most try to live peacefully among their human counterparts. They also have extensive religious rituals and traditions that are depicted throughout the TV series.

Like Enemy Mine and the Green Stone of Healing series, Alien Nation asserts that non-human beings can teach the human variety a thing or two about life and spirituality. The Newcomer police officer is paired with a human detective who is initially very unhappy about the arrangement. But the former earns the latter’s respect and affection through his courage, smarts, initiative, and loyalty. The Newcomer demonstrates that these enduring and spiritual character qualities are not the sole province of human beings. Again, the human being is better off for having known the alien.

On planet earth, isolated by the only too human fear that spirituality is just a mirage, many find the former a far more alien concept than the supposition of non-human intelligent beings. Yet all of us, although we may not use spiritual terms to describe our longings, hunger for a sense of community and belonging, a sense of self and of our unique place in this vast universe.

In other words, we long to live our spirituality and its implied relationship with God, however we conceive God to be and by whatever name we call the divine. Yet we struggle with our greatest human fear: that we will never be worthy enough for that ultimate spiritual relationship.

Aliens may give God far more credit than we do. If/when the day comes that we openly encounter intelligent non-human beings, we may find that the experience brings us much closer to reclaiming and living our own spirituality than we ever believed possible.

We can always choose to embrace the unknown — the alien — instead of fearing it.

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BOOK ASSERTS THAT SMALL GOVERNMENT GROUP REACHED CONCLUSION THAT 'UFOS' ARE DEMONIC

 A new book asserts that a government committee affiliated with the Defense Department concluded that UFOs are a demonic deception.

The book is Final Events, by Nick Redfern; we don't pretend to know how much of it is legitimate. In it, Redfern details the investigations of a group nicknamed the "Collins Elite" that was composed of government, military, and intelligence personnel. According to Redfern -- a paranormal writer on many controversial (and to many, outlandish) subjects -- the group, which included G-2 Army intelligence agents, as well as Naval and Air Force personnel, reached the conclusion "that we have in our midst a cold-hearted and sinister intelligence of demonic origins that masquerades as alien."

To many, of course, this seems preposterous; perhaps it is. But because we have long been concerned about the negative spiritual nature of "alien" reports, we are giving it an airing. Redfern says he learned of the group's view from an Anglican priest named Reverend Ray Boeche of Lincoln, Nebraska, who in the 1990s had met with two members of the group who were Defense physicists and born-again Christians. They sought out the minister to express their concerns about the evil nature of such phenomena.

The first reaction at the mere mention of UFOs ("unidentified flying objects"), of course, often evokes guffaws -- a feeling that this is something really out there, something that should be relegated to a bin marked "lunatic fringe." And so, in many cases, might this be, especially with those who claim alien contact. There are certainly instances where such sightings of objects or encounters or luminosities in the sky have been the products of the hoax, imagination, or misidentified objects, whether a satellite, plane, or weather balloon.

At least, those are the explanations skeptics most often cite. There are cases that even government agencies (most recently, England) admit have no ready explanation, accounts that have pilots, radar controllers, or police as witnesses. Even the Vatican Observatory has expressed interest. Reports of those cases are now commonly carried on "mainstream" media outlets such as Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, the History Channel, and Discover, among other programs -- along with a slew of large internet sites.

In late summer a former Air Force controller, Captain Robert Salas, broke a long silence to publicly announce he had witnessed a UFO on March 16, 1967, at Malmstrom Air Force Base in Montana and that it had affected nuclear launch equipment (rendering sixteen missiles inoperative there and later at a second facility). Other military have likewise testified. The latest buzz was two weeks ago in Inner Mongolia, where Chinese officials closed an airport until a strange, unknown light left its air space.

We have no idea how many of these claims are legitimate but have spiritual concerns because in many UFO cases witnesses become "psychic," the "aliens" (frequently portrayed as reptilian, slanty-eyed "grays") often can walk through walls (materialize and dematerialize), and in some instances there is left the smell of sulfur.

In other cases, UFOs seem more like the "orbs" associated with spirits and in fact Indian lore contains accounts of "spirit lights." Some have even occurred -- and recurred -- near old mounds, or above covens; witnesses are often left in terror, haunted for life. Through the centuries, deceiving spirits have come, it seems, in accordance with the culture -- as fairies, nymphs, leprechauns, gnomes, and now, in the space age, in at least some instances, it seems, as "extraterrestrials" (we don't preclude the possibility of life elsewhere).

According to Redfern, as far back as 1969 the U.S. Government Printing Office issued a publication compiled by the Library of Congress for the Air Force Office of Scientific Research that was entitled "UFOS and Related Subjects: An Annotated Bibliography." "In preparing the work," notes Redfern, "the senior bibliographer, Lynn E. Catoe, dug deeply into thousands of UFO articles and books. In the 400-page document, she stated: 'A large part of the available UFO literature is closely linked with mysticism and the metaphysical. It deals with subjects like mental telepathy, automatic writing, and invisible entities as well as phenomena like poltergeists [ghost] manifestations and possession. 'Many of the UFO reports now being published in the popular press recount alleged incidents that are strikingly similar to demonic possession and psychic phenomena.'"

These are words, reports Redfern, from our government. The Collins Elite reached a stronger conclusion. At least among those who met the minister, the concern, he says, was that a massive deception was in our midst -- one we have long called the "great deception." "The only alternative that may prove successful in thwarting plans of the enemy," stated a 1988 report of the Collins Elite, is through "...intense indoctrination of faith and values at planetary level to radically and rapidly alter current population mindset."

Is it like the nephilim in Noah's time (see Genesis 6:4)?

Redfern reports that at the government's own Kennedy Space Center in Florida was a safety specialist named Joe Jordan
who studied alien "abduction" and likewise concluded they were an evil phenomenon. (The abductions, he pointed out, are known to halt when a terrorized "abductee" cries out the Name Jesus.)

Have we been duped by movies into accepting ET?

People open themselves up to this, said Jordan, through anti-Christian, anti-biblical, or anti-God behavior -- or by dabbling with the occult, metaphysics, the paranormal, or New Age.

Why are we not warned about all this?

Did Christ not even say that there would be deceptions even of the "elect"?

Why is it that aliens often attack Christian beliefs -- but not those of other religions?

Gnomes. Fairies. Elves.

ETs.

The emperor often changes his clothes.

Said another investigator, "The common questions that Christians arrive at when they examine the documented teaching of aliens are quite logically along the lines of: Why would authentic extraterrestrial biological entities travel ninety billion light years just to attack one specific religion? Why do they make such a concentrated effort to convince people that Jesus Christ is not the true Deity, or God incarnate? Given their powers and abilities, the Christian truly is left with no choice but to identify these creatures as deceiving spirits."

Indeed, if a flurry of "aliens" suddenly "landed," how would this notion of being not made in His Image affect belief?

And might the Vatican Observatory -- which looks rather positively on the notion of aliens -- benefit from a closer look?

Are we on the verge of a great awakening, or a grand delusion?

Many abductees speak of aliens as future helpers after an apocalypse.

Fallen angels?

Said Malone: "What I believe is that disclosure will be the catalyst that unites the world under the one-world leader, the anti-christ. He will be the leader of the one-world government, one religion, and one economy. People need to understand all of this now so that when the curtain is unveiled, they already have made their choice about which God to serve." Redfern claims the Collins Elite concluded that the presence of "aliens" in our world encourages us "to accept and embrace Satan himself -- albeit in the deceptive guise of an advanced alien entity -- as our savior, shortly before the countdown to Armageddon begins and time finally runs out."

Sounds crazy, doesn't it?

If it does, do a Google search of news sites and see how many reports there have been of late -- carried over mainstream outlets. We can't substantiate all the claims in this book. But we know from elsewhere -- from even a Harvard researcher who has studied abductees (Dr. John Mack) -- that whether or not apocalyptic, something very unpleasant is afoot here, and that it is dispelled only in the Name of Jesus.

http://www.spiritdaily.com/UFOdeception.htm
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In late summer a former Air Force controller, Captain Robert Salas, broke a long silence to publicly announce he had witnessed a UFO on March 16, 1967, at Malmstrom Air Force Base in Montana and that it had affected nuclear launch equipment (rendering sixteen missiles inoperative there and later at a second facility). Other military have likewise testified. The latest buzz was two weeks ago in Inner Mongolia, where Chinese officials closed an airport until a strange, unknown light left its air space.
Robert Salas' discussion of the Echo Flight Incident as a UFO-related event is woefully inaccurate and leaves out a good 95% of the available information, including over 80-pages of FOIA documentation.  The results tend to elevate Robert Salas as some kind of credible expert on UFOs as a result of his alleged experiences at Echo Flight and Oscar Flight in March 1967, but most of his supporters, including Robert Hastings, have failed utterly to take his poor credibility and numerous proven lies into account.  The events in question simply did not occur as he has discussed and as many others are using in their attempts to effect public, political discourse.  There were no UFOs involved at Echo Flight at all, and the incident at Oscar Flight never even happened.  The men who have spread these lies, primarily Robert Salas and Robert Hastings, have done so for their own benefit, and they have been proven wrong on numerous occasions in numerous ways.  In fact, both the commander and the deputy commander at Echo Flight on March 16, 1967 have repeatedly come forward to state that UFOs were not involved.  They also insist, as do many dozens of other witnesses who were at Malmstrom AFB on the dates in question, that the incident at Oscar Flight never even occurred.  There is no record anywhere suggesting that such an incident did occur.  I would recommend that if you are truly interested in knowing what actually did take place at Malmstrom AFB in March 1967 you go to the following URLs, where you can download at no cost a book discussing REobert Salas and Echo Flight and supporting articles discussing the case:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/26641522/Americans-Credulous-by-James-Carlson

http://www.scribd.com/doc/42303580/Echo-Flights-of-Fantasy-Anatomy-of-a-UFO-Hoax-by-James-Carlson

http://www.scribd.com/doc/49495918/The-Bunny-s-Retort-by-James-Carlson

http://www.realityuncovered.net/blog/2011/08/strategic-editing/

I would also recommend that you examine the numerous interviews and articles at the Reality Uncovered website:  http://www.realityuncovered.net/ -- many of the front articles discuss the events at Echo Flight in March 1967, and include interviews with both the commander and the deputy commander at Echo Flight on March 16, 1967 when the missiles were taken offline by an electronic noise pulse, an incident that was thoroughly investigated and very well documented.

A lot information regarding this incident can also be found at the Reality Uncovered forum, in particular the Echo Flight Incident thread:  http://www.realityuncovered.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1688&sid=fb3fd24f098c0f3bc35595ea1b41a146.

Tim Hebert, an ex-USAF missileer himself, has also written some enlightening articles regarding the case on his blog at:  http://timhebert.blogspot.com/

Dr. David Clarke, for many years an accepted expert regarding the British military forces' investigations of the UFO phenomenon for many years, has also discussed this case in the context of the "UFO and Nukes" connection asserted by author Robert Hastings.  You can read his article on the subject at http://drdavidclarke.blogspot.com/2010/11/flat-earth-nukes.html.

The lies currently being spread by Robert Hastings and Robert Salas have been repeatedly proven as lies by witness testimony and documented evidence.  There is no doubt whatsoever that they created this case for their own benefit.  There were no UFOs involved -- it is a lie, another sad little UFO hoax intended to swell the heads and bank accounts of those asserting the lie and nothing more.

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That link leads to a site to which we have to 'sign in'.

Mark, so, does Stan and Holly believe in aliens, hence their story being taken or did they have an experience they believe to be with demons?  I'm a little confused on where they stand now with giving a warning. 
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That link leads to a site to which we have to 'sign in'.

Mark, so, does Stan and Holly believe in aliens, hence their story being taken or did they have an experience they believe to be with demons?  I'm a little confused on where they stand now with giving a warning. 

must have been taken down as i cant find it. I believe they are of the persuassion of the extradimensional beings rather than real aliens. They are aware of the coming deception.

wait!! try this one.

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Thanks, Mark.  Grin  That link works.
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« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2013, 08:01:51 am »

UFO Film Promises Proof of Pint-Size Aliens

An upcoming documentary film about UFOs claims it will offer evidence of aliens, including cutting-edge scientific analysis of a recovered body.

The film, which premieres April 22, is titled Sirius and showcases the claims of Steven Greer, a prominent UFO researcher who has dedicated years of his life — and a small fortune — to proving that the U.S. government is actively covering up hard evidence of extraterrestrial life.

The project has taken several years, and money to fund it was raised from donors and UFO buffs. In an urgent, breaking news update to the crowdfunding project, Greer asked his donors for more money because:

There is a chance that we may be able to include in the film “Sirius” the scientific testing of a possible Extraterrestrial Biological Entity (EBE) that has been recovered and is deceased. This EBE is in the possession of a cooperative institute desiring further scientific evaluation of the possible ET. We cannot reveal at this time the location of this being or the name of the person or persons who possess it….I have actually visited the group that possesses this EBE and have personally and professionally examined the being. It is indeed an actual deceased body, and most certainly is not plastic or man-made. It has a head, 2 arms and 2 legs and is humanoid. We have seen and examined X-Rays of the being. Its anatomy however is not homo sapien (modern human) or any known hominid (predecessors to humans). As you can imagine, the security and scientific issues surrounding the further testing of this potentially explosive and world-changing evidence are mind-boggling. However, we feel we simply must proceed expeditiously but cautiously. The cost of doing proper MRI testing, full and dispositive forensic-level DNA testing and carbon dating with other isotope testing are considerable and certainly not currently funded.
The cute little EBE alien-thing is about half a foot long. It looks like something you might stir your coffee with if you broke off one of its bony little arms. It was recovered not from Area 51 nor a hidden base near Roswell, N.M, but instead, supposedly, from Chile’s Atacama Desert several years ago.

This revelation raises all sorts of questions: If ETs aren’t much larger than your cell phone then why are their spacecraft so big? If the thing really is an alien body found in a South American desert years ago, why are we only finding out about it now? Why didn’t it make international news at the time, and why weren’t the scientific tests that will supposedly prove its extraterrestrial origins done years ago? What would a single alien body — without a spaceship, other occupants or even any G.I. Joe-scale helmet or ray gun — be doing alone in the desert? And why is all this suddenly being brought up when Greer is trying to raise money and publicity to complete a movie?

Actually I think I know the answer to that last question.

This is of course not the first time that a “documentary” has surfaced promising definitive proof of extraterrestrial life. If the whole alien autopsy theme seems familiar, it should be. It was done back in 1995 and broadcast on the Fox network as Alien Autopsy: Fact or Fiction.

The show centered around 17 minutes of supposedly top-secret grainy black and white footage filmed by the military and showing a post-mortem dissection of an alien body. To much of the public it looked credible, though skeptics pointed out many signs that it was a hoax. Those suspicions were soon verified, and the filmmakers admitted the footage had been staged.

So what is the Latin American, alien-leprechaun thing that Greer found? It looks a lot like a sculpted model, and fairly realistic faked aliens, animals and other creatures are widely available, including on eBay. Maybe all the questions will be answered when the film premieres, and scientists will finally have the “potentially explosive and world-changing evidence” they need to confirm extraterrestrial life.

Or not.

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That's a red flag all on it's own. Several years? Seriously, you can film a documentary with an off-the-shelf HD video camera that cost less than buying a video.  What costs are they talking about? Use of medical testing equipment? An MRI is a few hundred dollars, and now DNA testing isn't what it use to cost. Seems like they'd have the cash laying around among just the expert witnesses they trotted out at the National Press Club when they did their UFO press conference a few years back.

Despite all those people who really believe in ET's, it took years to raise the money? I ain't buying it.

Greer has already proven himself to be a New Age nutcase, pushing some really silly stuff outside this ET gig. Just another heathen trying to plant seeds for a future explanation for when the antichrist shows up is what I suspect they are doing because I think it's just as good a chance they will try to claim it's an alien, instead of the AC being some human leader, due to the parlor tricks the false prophet will do to convince people he's real and must worship him.
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Greer has already proven himself to be a New Age nutcase, pushing some really silly stuff outside this ET gig. Just another heathen trying to plant seeds for a future explanation for when the antichrist shows up is what I suspect they are doing because I think it's just as good a chance they will try to claim it's an alien, instead of the AC being some human leader, due to the parlor tricks the false prophet will do to convince people he's real and must worship him.

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Anthropologists explain how to approach aliens parked in Earth orbit
 
It happens all the time in science fiction stories: aliens park their vessels in Earth orbit, and things go pear-shaped. But what if this scenario unfolded in real life? What would be the best thing for us to do? We asked several anthropologists the best way to go about communicating with truly unknown life forms.
 
For this thought experiment, you have to imagine a ship has parked in orbit, but has not shown any signs of hostility. It's just sitting there. So what do we do next? More importantly, what would be an ideal, ethical response, rather the fist-in-tentacles response Will Smith made famous in Independence Day?

This very question has been a topic at the annual CONTACT conference for twenty-five years running. Anthropologist Jim Funaro, who founded the conference, said anthropologists are ideal consultants for extraterrestrial communication:
 
Because of their century of experience in “intraterrestrial” fieldwork and their commitment to a multicultural approach, anthropologists may be the most appropriately-trained scientists to inform protocol for, and initiate encounters in, contact situations whenever and wherever they occur. A primary rule in ethnographic field work: Make no assumptions.
 
In other words, we first need to keep a completely open mind, and not assume anything about the aliens' culture and preferred methods of meeting new life forms.

Debbora Battaglia, an anthropology professor at Mt. Holyoke College, has studied how humans deal with ideas of the "alien," including extraterrestrials. She told io9 that if she had to sum up the best ethical response in one word it would be "hospitality." Humans should extend hospitality to the visitors as we would "to any alien entity, including the human variety illegal alien." She also speculated about some of the kinds of communication we need to prepare for:
 
Send a linguistic anthropologist to learn to communicate — the visitors might be nonhumans, so the anthropologist might need to crack the code of, say, jellyfish communication: this is the shape we'd take to be best adapted to long duration space travel. Jellyfish have decentralized nervous systems and "see" with their tentacles, so perhaps we'd need to translate their nonverbal language.
 Then determine what they know that we don't about the pluriverse by asking them what they most want to know about us.

So don't assume that our aliens will speak or write. They may use signaling systems that we barely recognize.

David Graeber, an anthropologist and author of the bestselling book Debt: The First 5,000 Years, amplified Battaglia's points about difficulties with language. He told io9:
 
We simply have no idea how different they'd really be. Probably different in ways we couldn't imagine. I remember hearing [linguist Noam] Chomsky remark once that maybe one day we'll be able to see all human languages as dialects of a single language, and at first that seemed absurd, and then I thought, well, anyone who speaks Chinese can learn Quechua and vice versa, but look at dolphins - they seem to have some kind of language but despite 50 years of study we haven't even been able to figure out the units. And they're at least on the same planet. Who even knows what alien forms of communication might consist of? For all we know there are aliens monitoring us now but have made no contact because they're similarly unable to figure out our language. So I'd imagine that we'd probably have to just hope they're way smarter than we are, at least in this capacity, and would kick things off themselves.
 
Given these limitations, Funaro said that one possible way to communicate with the aliens would be to "perform," or act out how humans talk to each other:


One technique we have found helpful in CONTACT’s 25 years of ET contact scenarios: The value of “performances” in order to communicate to an alien sentient species, without a common language, our expected or acceptable norms of behavior – ethics, if you will. By playing out these simulations – of course, taking into account the sensory modalities of the ETs – we were able to dramatize situations with preferred or alternative outcomes – what we think is fair – and provide a possible and safe context for their response.

So instead of trying to talk to the ETs, we'd show them how we talk to each other and hope it makes some sense. This is actually not unlike what Ted Chiang imagines in his incredible short story "Story of Your Life," where humans meet aliens whose language is so perplexing that linguists can only figure it out by watching them speak and write to each other.
 
Other anthropologists expressed extreme skepticism that we'd ever encounter a scenario like the one I described. Kathryn Denning, an anthropologist at York University, has devoted considerable time to pondering how humans approach space exploration and the search for alien life. "I think the scenario is very unlikely," she told io9.
 
She added:
 

If a fleet of alien ships did actually materialize in low Earth orbit, I think the question of what "we" "should" do would be moot, because governments and corporations with spaceships, satellites, anti-sat weapons, and space stations, would be acting in what they reckoned to be their own best interests. Of course they should all have xenoanthropologists on their staff, just in case, but they probably wouldn't. (Or maybe I've just missed the job ads.)
 
Denning said that one part of the scenario that seemed particularly unbelievable to her was that humans could actually get their collective act together and behave well with another species from space. In email, she wrote:
 
In a perfect future where there was stable world peace and prosperity and some kind of international council of experts whose authority was uncontested and which made decisions about space which made everybody happy (and I can hear the gnashing of teeth of those who find such a concept repugnant because they prefer the notion of unfettered free enterprise in space) and thus we would all sit down to have a nice calm chat about what we should do about the aliens who have just appeared... and that just about sounds even less likely than the aliens showing up, doesn't it?.... well... I think we'd probably want to indicate to the alien ships that we were aware of their presence and receptive to communication from them, and then let them take it from there. If they've showed up on our doorstep, they would presumably know something of us already, and would presumably have some pretty fancy technology that outstrips our own (i.e. we don't have interstellar flight capability), so to a certain extent, the ball would be in their court. We could just put a ship or two of our own near them, and wait. Hopefully we could choose positioning that wouldn't look overtly threatening. If they signalled in some way, of course we'd want to have plenty of experts in signal processing, cryptography and linguistic analysis working on it, but unless they had already studied us and were trying very hard to make things clear for us, there would likely be ambiguity in any communication.

Douglas Raybeck, an anthropologist at Hamilton College, agreed with Denning that aliens parking in orbit was about as plausible as Earth people deciding to do the right thing by them:
 
What should happen and what is likely to happen are dramatically different prospects. If they are in orbit above us, that indicates a greatly superior technology. In order to get here, they would have to violate what we know about the speed of light, or they would have had to make a journey of almost unimaginable duration. If they have not made any hostile moves, we have to assume that their intentions are benign. Unfortunately, this will not prevent rampant paranoia from becoming part of the national posture of the United States and other countries. That which is new and that which we do not understand is fearful.

Like Funaro, Raybeck thinks that we'd want our alien translators to be anthropologists, science fiction writers, linguists, and others who have experience thinking outside the box about culture. But, he scoffed, "the likelihood of government officials listening to, let alone heeding the advice of such folk approaches the nano level."

Still, Raybeck did think there was a likely avenue of communication with the aliens:
 
They have arrived likely because they spotted one of our many technological signatures ranging from radio, television, radar, to elements in our atmosphere such as carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, and a slew of other undesirables that indicate the presence of technological civilizations. In all likelihood, they will have already monitored our varied broadcasts and will likely be actively doing so in real-time to assess our response to their appearance. Ideally, we would broadcast through the radio and television messages of welcome by a range of world leaders possibly from the United Nations giving the illusory sense that we can speak with one voice and a common purpose.

Though the UN does have a council for dealing with outer space issues, CONTACT founder Funaro was as dubious as Denning and Raybeck when it came to the "illusory sense" that there is anything like a representative of humanity. He wasn't sure if it would ever be possible for real humans to meet these extraterrestrials:
 
Who speaks for Earth? No doubt, supposedly international groups like the United Nations, a superpower or coalition thereof or multinational corporations would attempt to preempt negotiations with diverse motivations, bedeviled by hackers using various electronic media. The typical human beings, true representatives of our species, are unlikely to have any say in the encounter, submerged as they are in the political, economic and social infrastructure of nation-states and globalization. Thus, the true multicultural diversity of our species may not be initially apparent to the new arrivals.
 
Here Funaro highlights a common complaint made about science fiction, which is the idea that there could ever be such a thing as a unified "planetary culture." Many SF stories assume that every planet has a single culture, despite evidence to the contrary on our own world. It's possible that aliens will make the same mistake with us. Or, even if they don't, they will never be given a chance to investigate human diversity because they will only be granted audiences with the rich and powerful.

As we think about the most ethical way to approach alien visitors, it's useful to keep Battaglia's single word — "hospitality" — in mind. As she pointed out, this is how humans should greet each other too, but we rarely do. It's no wonder that so many of our fantasies about alien first contact are full of war and destruction. But that's why we need to start re-imagining these scenarios now, and trying to come up with better alternatives. After all, we don't need to meet aliens to start testing out what it would mean to approach an unknown culture with hospitality rather than hostility. We can start right here, on Earth.

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Congress to Discuss Search for 'Alien Earths' Today
5/9/13
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The recent discovery of three potentially life-supporting alien planets has caught the eye of Congress, which will hold a hearing about exoplanet discoveries today (May 9) on Capitol Hill.

The space and research subcommittees of the U.S. House of Representatives' Science, Space and Technology Committee will meet at 10 a.m. EDT (1400 GMT) Thursday for a joint hearing titled "Exoplanet Discoveries: Have We Found Other Earths?"

The proceedings will be webcast live; you can follow the House exoplanet hearing here on SPACE.com.

The hearing's charter states that its main purpose is to review the April discovery of Kepler-62e, Kepler-62f and Kepler-69c, three "super-Earth" exoplanets that may be capable of supporting life as we know it. As their names suggest, all three were spotted by NASA's prolific Kepler space telescope.

"The hearing will also assess the state of exoplanet surveying, characterization, and research; NASA’s Exoplanet Exploration Program; National Science Foundation’s (NSF) Division of Astronomical Science; as well as coordination within the government and with external partners," the charter states.

In addition, the hearing will address three overarching questions, according to the charter:
• How is exoplanet research conducted and why is it important?
• How do NASA and the NSF support exoplanet research?
• What does future exoplanet research hope to discover?

Three experts will take questions at the hearing: NASA science chief John Grunsfeld; James Ulvestad, director of the Division of Astronomical Sciences at the NSF; and Kepler team member Laurance Doyle, principal investigator of the Center for the Study of Life in the Universe at the SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) Institute in Mountain View, Calif.

Astronomers have discovered more than 800 exoplanets since spotting the first alien worlds orbiting a sun-like star back in 1995. A number of these planets orbit in their star's habitable zone, that just-right range of distances where liquid water could exist on a world's surface.

The Kepler mission has been a big player in this ongoing exoplanet revolution, detecting more than 2,700 planet candidates since its March 2009 launch. While just 132 of these candidates have been confirmed to date by follow-up observations, mission scientists expect that more than 90 percent will end up being the real deal.
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UFOs Disabling Nuclear Missiles: Former Senator Says Veterans' Testimony Is The "Smoking Gun" Confirming A U.S. Government Cover-Up Of "Exo-Vaticana" Type Evidence

In an interview with ABC News/Yahoo! News last Friday, former U.S. Senator Mike Gravel (D-Alaska) said statements by U.S. Air Force nuclear missile launch officers--regarding mysterious aerial objects interfering with the functionality of American ICBMs--make clear that top government officials are lying to the public when they claim to have no knowledge of national security-related UFO incidents. Gravel first gained national recognition in 1971, by placing the still-classified Pentagon Papers--which documented U.S. government malfeasance during the Vietnam War--into the public record. Gravel said the revelations by former/retired Captains Robert Salas, Bruce Fenstermacher, and David Schindele, as well as retired Security Policeman Sgt. David Scott, are "the smoking gun of the whole issue" of government secrecy on UFOs.

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Eisenhower Threatened To Invade Area 51 Former US Congress Members Hear In Testimony

In sensational testimony submitted on the final day of the Citizen Hearing on [UFO] Disclosure, six former members of the U.S. Congress heard from a former CIA agent about an incident involving President Eisenhower and extraterrestrials. In a video testimony played today before the retired US Congress members, the agent alleged that President Eisenhower sought to gain information from a secret control group called MJ-12 about alien related projects at a facility near Area 51 called S-4, both of which are located in a remote region of Nellis Air Force Base, Nevada. When denied the requested information, Eisenhower allegedly authorized a personal message that the agent and his immediate superior would deliver to those in charge at Area 51 and S-4. The message was a direct threat that he would authorize a military invasion of Area 51 and S-4 if his request for information was not carried out.

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Thousands Of Airline Pilots Witness UFOs, Admit It Is Ongoing Phenomena

Airline pilots see unidentified flying objects but very few report it because of ridicule. According to the National Aviation Reporting Center on Anomalous Phenomena, (NARCAP) there have been over 3,500 documented sightings of “Unidentified Aerial Phenomena” by military, commercial, and civilian pilots. But Captain Jim Courant, a commercial pilot for over 31 years, says there are many more sightings that are just not reported. “It is almost astounding how many people are in the know on this subject,” he said, speaking before the Citizens Hearing on Disclosure at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C. on May 3.

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Attorney Daniel Sheehan Repeats His Testimony in Washington From "Exo-Vaticana" Concerning Vatican UFO Secrets

Daniel Sheehan Testifies about classified photos and government records of a flying saucer crash and the connections to churches around the world. As former lead counsel for the Jesuit order in America, Sheehan testifies about the Vatican concealing UFO information as well as US government classified photos and records of a flying saucer crash and connections to churches around the world. Of course this controverts recent obfuscation by VORG astronomer Guy Conslomagno who claims “there are no Vatican UFO secrets.” If so, then why the refusal to release the requested files to the Carter administration described in this sworn testimony? Is Jesuit Brother Guy Consolmagno whose been running from his interviews with Tom Horn & Cris Putnam (but they have his documents and emails) trying to hide something?

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Well, as we've been discussing here, the New Agers(among other NWO groups) are begging for "alien disclosure" so that they can covet more of this technology.

Crossed paths with this technology/engineering university while in southern India, and this is their statement to the students...

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Crossed paths with this technology/engineering university while in southern India, and this is their statement to the students...



no mention of doing work to serve the Lord. that's what we expect from the lost world.
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Earth Life Likely Came from Mars, Study Suggests
8/28/13
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We may all be Martians.

Evidence is building that Earth life originated on Mars and was brought to this planet aboard a meteorite, said biochemist Steven Benner of The Westheimer Institute for Science and Technology in Florida.

An oxidized form of the element molybdenum, which may have been crucial to the origin of life, was likely available on the Red Planet's surface long ago, but unavailable on Earth, said Benner, who presented his findings today (Aug. 28; Aug. 29 local time) at the annual Goldschmidt geochemistry conference in Florence, Italy. [The Search for Life on Mars (Photo Timeline)]

"It’s only when molybdenum becomes highly oxidized that it is able to influence how early life formed," Benner said in a statement. "This form of molybdenum couldn’t have been available on Earth at the time life first began, because 3 billion years ago, the surface of the Earth had very little oxygen, but Mars did. It’s yet another piece of evidence which makes it more likely life came to Earth on a Martian meteorite, rather than starting on this planet."

Organic compounds are the building blocks of life, but they need a little help to make things happen. Simply adding energy such as heat or light turns a soup of organic molecules into a tarlike substance, Benner said.

That's where oxidized molybdenum comes in. Inserting it or boron, another element, into the mix would help organics make the leap to life, Benner added.

"Analysis of a Martian meteorite recently showed that there was boron on Mars; we now believe that the oxidized form of molybdenum was there, too," he said.

Another point in Mars' favor is the likelihood that the early Earth was completely covered by water while the ancient Red Planet had substantial dry areas, Benner said. All of this liquid would have made it difficult for boron, which is currently found only in extremely dry places, to form in high enough concentrations on Earth when life was first evolving.

Further, Benner added, water is corrosive to RNA, which most researchers think was the first genetic molecule (rather than DNA, which came later).

No indigenous Red Planet organisms have ever been discovered. But it is possible that life on Mars — if it ever existed — may have made its way to Earth at some point, many scientists say.

Some microbes are incredibly hardy, after all, and may be able to survive an interplanetary journey after being blasted off their home world by an asteroid impact. And orbital dynamics show that it's much easier for rocks to travel from Mars to Earth than the other way around.

Wherever Earth life originated, Benner is glad it put down roots on our blue planet.

"It’s lucky that we ended up here nevertheless, as certainly Earth has been the better of the two planets for sustaining life," Benner said. "If our hypothetical Martian ancestors had remained on Mars, there might not have been a story to tell."
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How technology has transformed classes, costs and social lives for college students
9/2/13

Bill Dameron started college in 1981. His mother, he remembers, dropped him at the curb of North Carolina’s Greensboro College with just a sack of clothes and a clock radio.

They said goodbye without ceremony. Dameron recalls that she shouted, “Good luck!” while “never removing the cigarette from her mouth as she sped off.”

Thirty years later, he bid farewell to his step-daughter, Meghan, on her first day at Colby-Sawyer College in New London, N.H., in 2011. The Damerons wouldn’t find hasty goodbyes in the school’s syllabus. Meghan's school developed a seven-hour program, as Dameron describes it, “to ease the transition for students and parents.” While he and his husband thought that went overboard, he noticed other parents and their kids took full advantage, posting farewell photos to Facebook.

“There were tears, there were hugs and there was Wi-Fi,” Dameron, 50, writes in a first-person account.

Times have changed, indeed.

When he was a student, Dameron didn’t see his mom again until Christmas — “she complained about the beard I had grown,” he notes — while Meghan and her step-father are basically still, albeit virtually, living together as a family. Every day, he can check her grades, read school news and deposit money onto her cash card.

That generational difference — how today’s technology can keep families closer — is one theme Yahoo News explored for our “Born Digital” series. We invited current students and parents of students to write about how the college experience has changed over the past few decades. Check out excerpted responses below and join us for a live hangout Thursday with Bill and some of the other writers. Check the Yahoo News Google+ page for more information coming this week and join the conversation on Twitter using #BornDigital.

‘Students never see their teachers face to face’

When my mom went to college the first time, it was 1988. She was married with three children, so she took some correspondence courses through Liberty University.

"Distance learning is much different from what is it now," she told me. "Instead of using computers, we were sent a bunch of VHS tapes with all the lectures on them. They were so boring, I used to fall asleep trying to listen to them! And we didn't have the convenience of emailing our professors if we had a problem; we had to call to get help."

The process has been completely different for me; just filling out the application to enroll is different. My mother told me she applied to Liberty through the phone, while I applied via online application. Filling out schedules, meeting teachers, and even some advising has been Internet-based so far. (VHS tapes, of course, aren't sent.) All my classes are online, and, in some cases, students never see their teachers face to face.

— Jessica Starks, 18, will study English at Itawamba Community College in Mississippi this fall.

For communicating with the outside world, there was a black dial-up pay phone in the hall, but who to call? Cell phones were decades in the future, so the pay phone was mainly for making a collect call home. Otherwise, we had envelopes, postage stamps, and stationery. The only computer we'd ever seen was this massive IBM mainframe where we struggled with impossible Fortran language, punching stackable binary cards that might as well have been hieroglyphics.

The library was installing microfiche readers and Xerox copiers, which felt like "Futurama" compared to carbon paper and the Dewey decimal system. For term papers, the lucky ones like me had an Olivetti-Underwood  manual typewriter  in a zipped leather carry case gifted from proud parents.

— Laurie Jo Miller Farr, 57, earned her bachelor’s and master’s degrees from Northeastern University in Boston in 1975. Her children, Christina and Timothy, are enrolled at University College London and the University of Nottingham in the UK.

I rarely go to the undergraduate library. Why bother? I can access all the documents I need from the Internet, the web offers all relevant study material, and if I require a book, I can use Google Books or download an e-book to my laptop. Better yet, the cloud often means I don't need my laptop. On one side of the campus, I can upload an e-book to Google Drive, bike to the other side of campus, and print portions of that same book on another computer — if a hard copy is needed at all.

— Phillip Wachowiak is a 19-year-old junior at the University of Michigan, where he studies biomolecular science. He plans to graduate in 2015 and then attend medical school.

Cell phones have to be the worst attention-stealing culprit in the classroom. While I try to ignore mine, I have grad school classmates who still can't stop texting during seminars. In a class of 20 undergraduates, I'd say at least four are probably paying attention to their phone at any given time, whether it be for text messaging, checking Facebook, or playing games. That means that about a fifth of the class is paying tuition to play with electronic devices and miss most of the lecture.

— Lisa Fulgham, a 24-year-old graduate student in English at Mississippi State University, hopes to finish this December.

‘College loans carry some serious interest’

Each time I tell my dad how much money I'll need for my books for the semester, he gets this sour look on his face.

He never fails to remind me (or to complain to me, rather) that the money I spend on books would have been more than enough to cover his entire tuition when he attended the University of Minnesota back in 1970. Parents always say things like that.

So I did a little research on his school website to uncover some real numbers. Lo and behold, the tuition for the 1969-70 school year was $399!

Last spring, my bookstore total came $576.47 — surprisingly one of the lower bills I've paid. To this day, I am still mad about a required book for my environmental science class, which was so cleverly titled "Environmental Science." I paid $135 for a used copy and did not use it once.

— Dana Perry, 23, attends the University of Maryland Baltimore County and will graduate this year with a degree in gender and women's studies.

College loans carry some serious interest for those like me who did not receive significant academic scholarships and had to finance their education largely through debt. For each of my four years as an undergraduate, I borrowed around $20,000 per year to pursue my work in business school.

I was a very average student in high school, but quickly realized that this was no longer an option at the price I was paying at Fairfield. I would love to now be a debt-free graduate student pursuing a career in public accounting; however, knowing that I truly had to make my college experience all it could be gave me exactly the kick start that I needed.

— Mark Evans, 22, will graduate in May from Fairfield University in Connecticut with a master’s degree in accounting.

A college education is easier to complete now than it was in the 1980s, primarily due to changes in financial aid. I had to drop out of Northeastern University at age 19, with a 3.2 GPA, when I ran out of money in my freshman year. My daughter, Diana, is now 22 and a senior at Lyndon State College, even though I could not afford to send her there.

The good news is that the federal [loan] limits are now more reasonable — a whopping $57,500 for an undergraduate like her! As she is attending a school that costs about $7,500 annually, this means that she does not have to quit due to lack of money, like I did.

The changes in federal financial aid have made obtaining a college degree more attainable for those who could not otherwise afford it. Diana will be graduating next year, with terrific prospects at finding a job in her field. Yes, she will have to pay back the student loans, but at least she will be able to afford to.

— D.M. Cogger, 47, began school at Northeastern University in 1984.

‘I pity them for those lost opportunities’

When I headed off to SUNY-Oneonta for college in upstate New York 32 years ago, I was young, excited and completely in the dark about what I was doing and what was in store for me.

Not so for my 18-year-old son Henry, who begins his college career at Boston University this fall to study physics. He took so many Advanced Placement and International Baccalaureate classes in high school that he starts his freshman year with 84 college credits. I had three.

— Julie BoydCole, 50, studied communications at SUNY-Oneonta in 1981.

My professors can also ask more of me because of the technological tools that are readily available at my fingertips. For example, my professors will often write exams that will require the use of statistical software during the test. Professors will often design labs or workshop sessions in class that require a research tool to be learned and utilized in order to complete an assignment.

Consequently, technology is a Catch-22 in higher education today: It makes the completion of academic work swifter and more efficient, but it also raises expectations about the amount of work that should be completed by students and the quality of the work that is produced.

— Stetson Thacker, 21, is studying biology, chemistry and English at Denison University in Ohio. He will graduate in May.

My 18-year-old daughter, Vivian, who is enrolled at the University of Cincinnati, listens sympathetically to reminiscences of my four years on that campus in the 1980s, imagining pioneer days of taking classes without cell phones, the Internet, or computers.

The tedious process of research certainly has improved, as Internet searches beat poring through tomes in UC's Langsam Library. Vivian and her peers can complete their projects without leaving the dorm, or while sipping frappes at Starbucks.

Today's students are deprived of the pleasure of learning outside of the assigned topic and discoveries of music and literature, which become wonderful lifelong diversions. I pity them for those lost opportunities.

— Doug Poe, 50, attended the University of Cincinnati in the 1980s.

‘Keep doors open and all four feet on the floor’

The strict rules governing our social lives were positively convent-like when compared to campus life today. How differently we were treated back then as freshmen living in single-sex dormitories patrolled by upper-class floor captains.

Only during prescribed social hours were our male friends permitted to visit Smith Hall. We had a common room for socializing and an attendant posted at the front desk with a sign-in/sign-out book and a pamphlet of dorm rules including, "Keep doors open and all four feet on the floor."

The dorm floors were patrolled. Yes, Deborah, Jim, Jeff, and I got in trouble, returning from a McDonald's double date after lock-up at 11 p.m. That meant an appearance before the governing parietal committee and a lockdown. Mind you, I am describing college, not prison.

Boyfriends and pot could, and did, get the Boston Police to your door, but provisions for cigarette smoking were commonplace, with ashtrays placed everywhere.

— Laurie Jo Miller Farr

Compared to my parents, our physical social lives have suffered in favor of an online-physical hybrid. Instead of going to the library now, my roommates and I sit together in the living room — on our laptops. If I can't hang out with a group of friends because I have work to do, we will Snapchat each other our activities all night.

I don't have much time for dating, but I've noticed how couples spend less time speaking and more time on their phones when they're in line at Starbucks or at the movie theater.

— Phillip Wachowiak

‘There is no curfew, Mom’

We expect so much more from our kids today academically, but we let them slide dangerously in other areas. My son can speak Japanese, but he can't seem to grasp the concept that "cleaning up the dishes" includes the pots on the stove and the cutting board on the island. Of course, that won't be a problem at college — he has a meal plan.

Parents are more involved in their kids’ school lives these days. There are more teacher conferences and parents are encouraged to monitor their children's grades online. The result is more knowledge, but less experience. Kids don't get to be responsible for themselves.

— Kim Jacobs Walker, 48, graduated from the University of Texas at Austin in 1997, where she received a bachelor’s in Plan II with a concentration in English. Her son, Devon, 18, will attend Austin College in Sherman, Texas, this fall.

In 2008, during Krissy's senior year in high school, we toured the University of Miami. I was taken aback as we passed students sprawled on the lawn in bikinis, sun-bathing while studying. That would have caused quite a commotion back in my day. The campus police would have declared this indecent exposure! Very risqué!

The day I moved my daughter into her dorm was an education in itself. At 57, I consider myself pretty "hip" and open-minded. I gasped when I realized I was moving my freshman daughter into a coed dorm. My mouth flew open as I watched in amazement young men stroll past females in the halls. During my college days, no freshman ever slept in a building with the opposite sex. That was a privilege reserved for upperclassmen.

A bit shaken, I asked Krissy when her curfew was. She looked at me like I was from the Stone Age.

"There is no curfew, Mom."

— Rhonda Manning, 57, graduated in 1977 from Hampton University.

‘Competition is cutthroat’

Today's digitized, fast-changing world validates a prediction that then California Gov. Jerry Brown made in 1981 to one of my college classes. He said that 25 percent of us would work in careers that hadn't been invented yet, so focusing on a major wasn't as important as a well-rounded, diverse education.

Now that I have a son in college, a daughter in high school, and Jerry Brown is the governor of California, again, I use Brown's prophetic and wise remarks to illustrate the need for a broad education and an open mind about your future to my kids.

After all, who knows what changes and new jobs the next 30 years will bring?

— Dyanne Weiss, 54, graduated from CSU Northridge in California in 1982. Her 19-year-old son studies screenwriting at Emerson College in Boston.

Twenty-five years ago, one didn't always need a college degree to find a career, become successful, or even amass great wealth. Then, employers focused on personality, interview skills, connections, and skill in a particular field. My father earned his bachelor's degree in business administration from Old Dominion University in 1988, but he has since worked his way up in the Virginia Beach City Public School's education system through hard work, a good attitude, and his skills. I mean, it makes sense: In our parent's generation (and today), most of what you need to know is taught on the job.

But nowadays the focus seems to have shifted from personal attributes and skill to the number of awards and degrees a student has gained. A bachelor's degree is expected of most students entering the job market, and many need further schooling just to stay competitive. And that competition is cutthroat.

— Nicole Woodhouse, 21, will be a senior this fall at the College of William and Mary in Virginia, where she is majoring in psychology and biology.

In 1974, my mom enrolled at Sam Houston with one main purpose: earn her degree in sociology and become a social worker. Back then, going to college wasn't something that seemingly everyone did after high school. Many of her friends found good-paying jobs right after graduating, meaning you only went to college if you knew you needed a certain education for a certain career.

Now, about the only job opportunities you can get right out of high school are fast food and low-level retail, and both of those are minimum-wage with almost no room for promotion or a sizable pay increase. A college education has become less of an option and more of a necessity.

College has almost become the "new high school."

— Thomas Leger, 20, will graduate with a degree in philosophy from Sam Houston State University in Huntsville, Texas, next summer.
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« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2013, 03:52:34 am »

what does the article have to do with alien disclosure?
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« Reply #25 on: September 03, 2013, 10:28:24 am »

what does the article have to do with alien disclosure?

B/c as technology has been implemented more and more in our society, look how, in particular, it has changed the landscape on college campuses. This part in particular caught my attention...

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"More knowledge", albeit with LESS experience? Kinda reminds you or Genesis 3 where Satan tricks Eve into eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil so that she can be like gods?

I'm not saying technology is bad at all(if used properly and usefully, it bears nice fruit), but as you see in secular society, as you can see in this article, it's not used properly and fruitfully at all. And to boot - the secular world seems to be begging for more technology every day.
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ok   Huh
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« Reply #27 on: September 03, 2013, 10:50:47 am »

ok   Huh

Well yeah - that was the point - we've seen how these Steven Greer-types and the New Age Movement have been BEGGING for more and more technology, which is why they're begging for "Alien Disclosure".

No, these college campuses aren't exactly begging for alien disclosure - but nonetheless as they're throwing more and more technology into these college campuses(for example), it's really changed the entire personality of what's going on in this area(for example). Like people admitting how they've increased more in KNOWLEDGE(pretty much in this entire article). And to boot - as you can see in this article, morals on college campuses have become thrown out the window(not that they were ever great, but freshmen boys and girls sharing the same dorms?).

This is why I put the article here - whenever I read articles on how technology has "bettered" (secular)society, it reminds me of Genesis 3, like it does here. I know it sounds odd, but remember who put out this technology in the first place.
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« Reply #28 on: September 05, 2013, 03:51:27 pm »

Since the beginnings of the Industrial Revolution (which I cast as the beginning of major hedonism) the biggest deception is and will be Secularism (which I put to light as the base to these Antichrist false religions), Secularism will dominate the hearts, minds, and souls, of people if the evolutionists can "prove", with them arriving, aliens.
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« Reply #29 on: September 05, 2013, 04:54:23 pm »

Since the beginnings of the Industrial Revolution (which I cast as the beginning of major hedonism) the biggest deception is and will be Secularism (which I put to light as the base to these Antichrist false religions), Secularism will dominate the hearts, minds, and souls, of people if the evolutionists can "prove", with them arriving, aliens.

Yep - Secular Humanism has really been pushed, in a very subtle way, in our secular institutions.

How many times have we heard in school, "Be The Best That You Can Be!!!!"?
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