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« on: September 13, 2013, 11:07:09 am »

Does Rick Warren want you to “come home” to the Catholic Church?

You’ve heard about the Purpose Driven Life for Catholics, but did you ever think it would lead to a major evangelization project by the Church of Rome that targets Protestant Christians?

Catholics Come Home: God’s Extraordinary Plan for Your Life is the name of a new book that is taking Rome and the world by storm, with this incredible endorsement by Rick Warren, which signals a troubling shift toward embracing this new project:



Make no mistake; this Catholics Come Home movement is not just to bring “lapsed Catholics” into the system of Rome. ( see The Eucharest: the New Evangelization targets you, Christian!) It’s target is everyone, including Bible-believing Christians. The project’s founder, Tom Peterson, has opened the doors to entice Protestants and people of other faiths to Catholicism:


The movement officially kicked off in 2011 with a 3.5 million prime-time television campaign aimed at drawing more people to the church of Rome. The marketing reach of these ads in the first three weeks was 250 million television viewers in over 10,000 U.S. cities and every diocese throughout the United States. With the release of the Catholics Come Home book this spring, there is a renewed push to get the word out of Rick Warren’s involvement, as this video promotion reveals:


Rick Warren’s partnership with Roma Downey in the minisieries, The Bible was troubling enough, but the millions of viewers who tuned in also were targeted in the Catholics Come Home commercial campaign when it aired earlier this year on The History Channel:


Other endorsements for the book:



Let me pause there and add that this last testimonial from Dr. Peter Kreeft is interesting, as he has been quoted in a 2010 book titled Natural Law by Robert Morey:

“…explicit knowledge of the incarnate Jesus is not necessary for salvation.” ~ Peter Kreeft  (page 355, Natural Law, published 2010 Xulon Press)

“We are in the midst of a New Evangelization; and I believe this book is a signal moment in its success. It is also a sign that will lead many folks back home to the family of God, which is Catholic Church,” —Dr. Scott W. Hahn, author of The Lamb’s Supper and Signs of Life (former Protestant turned Catholic “evangelist”)

“Catholics Come Home inspires each of us to share God’s love with others, in order to help change the world for the better, for eternity!” – Roma Downey, actress and co-producer of the History Channel series The Bible.

Recently Roma Downey acquired a Master of Spiritual Psychology (New Age) degree at University of Santa Monica. New Age leaders at the school include Deepak Chopra, Barry Siegel (promoted in Purpose Driven Life)], Neil Donald Walsh, and Michael Beckwith. (Source)

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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2013, 02:30:15 pm »

looks tha way  Shocked lots of Catholics are coming out of the closet
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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2013, 09:45:45 am »

U.S. Roman Catholic Church And Protestant Denominations Agree To Recognize Each Other's Baptisms

In a monumental occasion for ecumenical relations, the U.S. Roman Catholic church and a group of Protestant denominations plan to sign a document on Tuesday evening to formally agree to recognize each other's baptisms.

Catholic leaders will join representatives from the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), Christian Reformed Church in North America, Reformed Church in America and United Church of Christ at the ceremony in Austin, Texas, to sign the agreement, which is called the "Common Agreement on Mutual Recognition of Baptism." The event coincides with the national meeting of Christian Churches Together in the U.S.A.

Currently, the Protestant churches recognize Roman Catholic baptisms, but the Catholic church does not always recognize theirs. The mutual agreement on baptisms, a key sacrament in the churches, has been discussed between denominational leadership for seven years and hinges in part on invoking trinity of the "Father, Son and Holy Spirit" during the baptism.

In a report in the Austin American-Statesman, Bishop Joe Vasquez of the Diocese Austin told the newspaper that the effort "is part of our response to Jesus' prayer that 'we all be one.'"

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« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2013, 06:05:13 am »

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Currently, the Protestant churches recognize Roman Catholic baptisms,

That is not entirely true. Maybe some do, but for most the belief is that the person be immersed bodily, not sprinkled with water.

Whatever, this is a huge change, at least in pr. We know there are much closer ties behind the scenes, but to openly start getting all buddy buddy and officially recognizing each other, that's something different.

Seems the open consolidation to a central theology is starting.
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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2013, 09:14:39 pm »

Speaking of "Catholics coming home", there was an ad in my local paper two weeks in a row so far about this same topic. Keep in mind, I live in Amish country, and can't even think of a Catholic church within 10 miles of my city. Lots of Amish, Mennonite, Protestant and Baptist churches (even a Mormon church about 15 miles away) but no Catholic churches. You have to go out a little further to find those. Despite that, it has this ad in the paper: (linking to the image because it is from a camera and hasn't been resized. It's a massive image)

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/1188/pfl8.jpg

I just find it odd, is all...
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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2013, 09:20:30 pm »

Speaking of "Catholics coming home", there was an ad in my local paper two weeks in a row so far about this same topic. Keep in mind, I live in Amish country, and can't even think of a Catholic church within 10 miles of my city. Lots of Amish, Mennonite, Protestant and Baptist churches (even a Mormon church about 15 miles away) but no Catholic churches. You have to go out a little further to find those. Despite that, it has this ad in the paper: (linking to the image because it is from a camera and hasn't been resized. It's a massive image)

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/1188/pfl8.jpg

I just find it odd, is all...

Yeah, we will all find out pretty soon(potentially) which so-called "Christian" ministries will either continue to take a stand, or their sand-all-along foundations will start crumbling down. It is pretty odd, yeah, that they would advertise that when there are no RCCs in your area - but then again, these leavened churches will fall for anything nowdays, it seems.
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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2013, 08:36:01 pm »

Warren was on Piers Morgan tonight - first off in this video, when he was asked about his views on homosexuality, he pretty much gave a "I'm against it, but, but, BUT..." kind of answer, and then shifted the direction to "tolerance".

With that being said - throughout this 3.5 minute video, look how they keep flashing images of POPE FRANKIE in the background - pretty much they're trying to give their viewers a deceptive impression that the RCC is *true Christianity*.

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http://news.yahoo.com/pope-reaches-39-indifferent-39-catholics-145203142.html
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VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis offered another gesture to Catholics who are estranged from the church, saying Monday he respects them but that God is waiting for them.

Francis made the comments after he celebrated Epiphany, a major Catholic feast day that recalls the visit to the infant Jesus Christ by three kings.

"I would like to tell all those who feel far from God and the church — and I say this respectfully to those who are afraid or indifferent: The Lord calls you and wants you to be part of his people and does so with great respect and love!" Francis said. "The Lord doesn't proselytize, he gives love and this love looks for you, waits for you — for you who don't believe or have drifted away. This is the love of God."

Francis has made a priority of reaching out to atheists and Catholics marginalized by their church, particularly gays. He has tasked priests, bishops and cardinals with going out to preach on the margins of society and not wait for the faithful to come back to the church.

Francis himself is leaving the Vatican on Monday to go visit a Rome church where parishioners are acting out Jesus' nativity scene.
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Pope tells Christians to put aside their divisions

 Pope Francis has led a prayer service in a Rome basilica attended by representatives of Orthodox, Anglican and other Christian communities in hopes of healing centuries-old divisions.

The service Saturday evening in St. Paul Outside the Walls Basilica capped a week of efforts in Rome and worldwide to foster unity among Christians.

The pope told participants that divisions among Christians impair the work of spreading the Gospel in the world. He urged Christians to humbly continue “on the way to the restoration of full visible unity.” Francis also prayed for God’s help in overcoming “our conflicts, our divisions and our self-seeking,” which he described as obstacles to unity.

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Pope tells Christians to put aside their divisions

 Pope Francis has led a prayer service in a Rome basilica attended by representatives of Orthodox, Anglican and other Christian communities in hopes of healing centuries-old divisions.

The service Saturday evening in St. Paul Outside the Walls Basilica capped a week of efforts in Rome and worldwide to foster unity among Christians.

The pope told participants that divisions among Christians impair the work of spreading the Gospel in the world. He urged Christians to humbly continue “on the way to the restoration of full visible unity.” Francis also prayed for God’s help in overcoming “our conflicts, our divisions and our self-seeking,” which he described as obstacles to unity.

http://www.srnnews.com/pope-tells-christians-to-put-aside-their-divisions/

Which is why the RCC has put out CCM/"Christian" Rock, pagan prayer practices like contemplative prayer, etc in these Protestant/Baptist churches, so they can do just that - break down the walls and push ecumenicism.(things Rick Warren and the Emergent Church have been putting in their programs)
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Sorry Francis, scripture says otherwise...

51  Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
52  For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.
53  The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Luke 12:51-53 (KJB)
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« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2014, 08:19:11 am »

EXPOSED – The Vatican “unites” with “separated brethren” through Bible versions. Stated goal since 1965.

http://ephesians511blog.net/2014/02/16/exposed-the-vatican-unites-with-separated-brethren-through-bible-versions-stated-goal-since-1965/

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« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2014, 03:33:34 pm »

Yeah, and the Vatican used very crafty language in it.

With that being said - well, that explains why the modern-day, organized "church" system has no problems yoking and being friends with even the most liberally doctrinally minded people. Countless times when I've warned others about the RCC, they would makes responses like, "Why do you hate them?", "You don't like those who have different opinions than you", etc, etc.

Again, that pretty much explains why they give these responses.

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« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2014, 02:02:29 am »

"They are of the world, therefore speak they of the world..."

We already know the RCC is the head of churchianity in the world. "The Mother of Harlots".
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Pope to Copeland: Catholics and Charismatics must spiritually unite

We are galloping toward a one-world melding of religions, and the ramifications are staggering. Pope Francis has now sent a video message to Word of Faith father Kenneth Copeland, urging a reconciliation between Catholics and Charismatics.

“The Catholic and Charismatic Renewal is the hope of the Church,” exclaims Anglican Episcopal Bishop Tony Palmer, before a group of cheering followers at the Kenneth Copeland Ministries.   Palmer said those words are from the Vatican. Before playing the video message from Pope Francis to Kenneth Copeland, Palmer told the crowd,  “When my wife saw that she could be Catholic, and Charismatic, and Evangelical, and Pentecostal, and it was absolutely accepted in the Catholic Church, she said that she would like to reconnect her roots with the Catholic culture. So she did.”

The crowd cheered, as he continued, “Brothers and sisters, Luther’s protest is over. Is yours?”

Even Kenneth Copeland finds this development incredible: Said Copeland, “Heaven is thrilled over this…You know what is so thrilling to me? When we went into the ministry 47 years ago, this was impossible.”

How can this impossibility be? Could the ears of those once aware of the evils of ecumenicism suddenly be sealing shut? What is even more gobsmackingly painful is the reaction from evangelicals, who seem quite thrilled with this unholy alliance.

Here is the longer version of what Copeland and Palmer said. Note that at about 40 minutes in, Copeland and the congregants join in prayer for the “Holy Father,” then watch as Anthony Palmer videotapes a return message to Pope Francis from Kenneth Copeland himself.



Here is just the Pope’s message, at about 30 minutes in:



    Here is the transcript:

    “Two rules: Love God above all, and love the other (neighbor), because he is your brother and sister. With these two rules we can go ahead. I am here with my brother, my bishop brother, Tony Palmer. We’ve been friends for years.

    He told me about your conference, about your meeting. And it’s my pleasure to greet you. A greeting both joyful and nostalgic (yearning). Joyful because it gives me joy that you have come together to worship Jesus Christ the only Lord. And to pray to the Father and to receive the Holy Spirit. This brings me joy because we can see that God is working all over the world. Nostalgic (yearning) because but…it happens, as within our suburbs. In the suburbs there are families that love each other and families that don’t love each other. Families that come together and families who separate themselves. We are kind of…permit me to say, separated.

    Separated because, it’s sin that has separated us, all our sins. The misunderstandings throughout history. It has been a long road of sins that we all shared in. Who is to blame? We all share the blame. We have all sinned. There is only one blameless, the Lord. I am nostalgic (yearning), that this separation comes to an end and gives us communion. I am nostalgic (yearning), of that embrace that the Holy Scripture speaks of when Joseph’s brothers began to starve from hunger, they went to Egypt, to buy, so that they could eat.

    They went to buy. They had money. But they couldn’t eat the money. But there they found something more than food, they found their brother. All of us have currency. The currency of our culture. The currency of our history. We have lot of cultural riches, and religious riches. And we have diverse traditions. But we have to encounter one another as brothers. We must cry together like Joseph did. These tears will unite us. The tears of love.

    I am speaking to you as a brother. I speak to you in a simple way. With joy and nostalgia (yearning). Let us allow our nostalgia (yearning) to grow, because this will propel us to find each other, to embrace one another. And together to worship Jesus Christ as the only Lord of History.

    I thank you profoundly for listening to me. I thank you profoundly for allowing me to speak the language of the heart. And I also ask you a favor. Please pray for me, because I need your prayers. And I will pray for you, I will do it, but I need your prayers. And let us pray to the Lord that He unites us all. Come on, we are brothers. Let’s give each other a spiritual hug and let God complete the work that he has begun. And this is a miracle; the miracle of unity has begun.

    A famous Italian author named Manzoni, once wrote in his novel, of a simle man amongst the people, who once said this, “I’ve never seen God begin a miracle without Him finishing it well.” He will complete this miracle of unity. I ask you to bless me, and I bless you. From brother to brother, I embrace you. Thank you.”

http://standupforthetruth.com/2014/02/pope-to-copeland-catholics-and-charismatics-must-spiritually-unite/
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“The Catholic and Charismatic Renewal is the hope of the Church,” exclaims Anglican Episcopal Bishop Tony Palmer, before a group of cheering followers at the Kenneth Copeland Ministries.   Palmer said those words are from the Vatican. Before playing the video message from Pope Francis to Kenneth Copeland, Palmer told the crowd,  “When my wife saw that she could be Catholic, and Charismatic, and Evangelical, and Pentecostal, and it was absolutely accepted in the Catholic Church, she said that she would like to reconnect her roots with the Catholic culture. So she did.”

WOW! No wonder churchianity is in such chaos with heretics like that!
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« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2014, 12:44:26 pm »

Pretty much throughout my lifetime going to these Babel Baptist/Protestant church buildings - if you just merely warn about the heresies of the RCC, even THEY will frown on you like you're hateful.

Even a previous pastor I had had nothing but praise for Bobby Jindal(Louisiana's Catholic governor), calling him a "man of faith".
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« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2014, 05:12:31 am »

Being Ecumenical with Spiritual Darkness

Being Ecumenical with Spiritual Darkness

READ THE WORD OF GOD, IT’S FINAL

Exodus 20:3-5 – “Thou shalt have no other gods before Me.

4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate Me”



Isaiah 44:17-18 – “And the residue thereof he maketh a god, even his graven image: he falleth down unto it, and worshippeth it, and prayeth unto it, and saith, Deliver me; for thou art my god.

18 They have not known nor understood: for He hath shut their eyes, that they cannot see; and their hearts, that they cannot understand.”

Who or what church is being drawn towards an entity that can’t see or understand?



https://ambrose.edu/global-impact-week

Any person or entity that is in any way, shape or form ecumenical with Roman Catholicism is automatically thrown in to a place of not seeing or understanding if they see what’s happening. They share the same plight of spiritual darkness as the Pope and all the r


http://www.christianpost.com/news/evangelicals-and-catholics-together-getting-born-again-75971/



Evangelicals are falling in to the same spiritual abyss by the choices they make. To have the Pope address TBN huckster, Kenneth Copeland, is giving a bizarre “dark credibility” to Kenneth Copeland who is already spiritually dark to begin with.



http://ephesians511blog.net/2014/02/24/being-ecumenical-with-spiritual-darkness/
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It's also going on at the local levels too - when I lived in New Orleans, there was a Baptist seminary there that hosted events every now and then where Catholic priests were invited to "dialogue".

And even some of the so-called "end times watchmen" like Hal Lindsey and Tim LaHaye have praised the Pope.
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POPE JOINS CHARISMATICS IN CALL FOR ONE-WORLD CHURCH (Friday Church News Notes, February 28, 2014, www.wayoflife.org fbns@wayoflife.org, 866-295-4143) - In an informal seven-minute video that has been posted to YouTube, Pope Francis calls for the unity of all Christians. The context is even more instructive. The video was recorded on a smartphone owned by Anglican Episcopal charismatic bishop Anthony Palmer when he visited the Vatican recently. Palmer has known the pope since the latter was an archbishop in Argentina. The pope’s video clip was recorded to be played at a Pentecostal pastors conference hosted by Kenneth Copeland, a man laden down with heresies who falls on the floor and laughs hysterically while “drunk in the spirit.” The pope said that all Christians are to blame for disunity, and that God has begun the miracle of Christian unity and will finish it.


In his remarks at the Copeland crusade before the pope’s video was played, Palmer showed that he is a passionate and effective one-world church builder. He has a personal testimony of conversion experience, says he believes in salvation by God’s grace alone, and is well spoken and personable. But he could not be more deceived. Consider the following statements carefully that Palmer made as a prelude to the pope’s remarks: “I come tonight in the spirit of Elijah, which is the spirit of reconciliation. ... I’ve come to understand that diversity is divine; it’s division that is diabolic. ... It’s the glory that glues us together, not the doctrine. If you accept that the presence of God is in me and the presence of God is in you, that’s all we need. God will sort out all our doctrines when we get upstairs. ... Division destroys our credibility. ... I believe we will see more people go out into the churches in the spirit of Elijah. We need to throw as much resources and energy into the ministry of reconciliation as we do to the ministry of evangelization. I challenge you to find a bridge builder and back him.”


Nothing could be more dangerous and unscriptural than to replace Bible doctrine with experience as the basis of unity. This is the heart and soul of the charismatic delusion, and now we see it being proposed by the pope of Rome as the foundation for a one-world church. In his own call for unity, Palmer said nothing about the heresies of the papacy, the priesthood, sacramentalism, infant baptism, baptismal regeneration, the mass, mariolatry, purgatory, the saints, prayers to the dead, nunnery, monasticism, and a host of other heresies. He said nothing about Copeland’s Word-Faith heresies. With his philosophy of “Elijah reconciliation,” none of that matters as long as an individual loves “Jesus,” believes the “gospel,” and has the “spirit.” We aren’t allowed to examine WHAT Jesus, WHAT gospel, or WHAT spirit. That type of examination would spoil the unity and bring us right back to division, which, we are led to believe, is diabolic.


What spiritual deception! How late the hour is! No wonder Jesus warned that false teachers will become so subtle that “if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect” (Mat. 24:24). Be not deceived, the following verse singlehandedly destroys the call for end-time unity: “Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints” (Jude 3).


KENNETH COPELAND’S ENTHUSIASM OVER THE POPE’S CALL FOR UNITY (Friday Church News Notes, February 28, 2014, www.wayoflife.org fbns@wayoflife.org, 866-295-4143) - After the pope’s video call for unity was finished, Kenneth Copeland said, “Glory, glory, glory. ... Heaven is thrilled over this.” He said, “You know what is so thrilling to me? When we went into the ministry 47 years ago, this was impossible.” Copeland prayed for the pope in his nonsensical, fake, gibberish “tongues.” He recorded a video message for the pope in which he said, “All of these leaders [at the conference] represent literally tens of thousands of people that love you. ... Thank you, sir. We do bless you, and we receive your blessing. We thank God for you.” Then he led the crowd in shouting together to the pope by video, “We Bless You!!!!!” Copeland said that he is available to visit the Vatican.


ALL ECUMENICAL ROADS LEAD TO ROME (Friday Church News Notes, February 28, 2014, www.wayoflife.org fbns@wayoflife.org, 866-295-4143) - Anglican Episcopal bishop Tony Palmer, who video recorded Pope Frances’ call for Christian unity, made the following statement at the Kenneth Copeland meeting: “When my wife saw that she could be Catholic, and Charismatic, and Evangelical, and Pentecostal, and it was absolutely accepted in the Catholic Church, she said that she would like to reconnect her roots with the Catholic culture. So she did.” The Pentecostal crowd cheered, as Palmer continued, “Brothers and sisters, Luther's protest is over. Is yours?”


GLUE FOR THE ONE-WORLD “CHURCH” (Friday Church News Notes, February 28, 2014, www.wayoflife.org fbns@wayoflife.org, 866-295-4143) - The Kenneth Copeland conferene in which the pope’s video call for unity was shown is a petri dish for the examination of the end-time one-world “church.” All of the elements were there. There was the contemporary worship music. There was the charismatic focus on feeling and experience. There was the “unity in diversity.” There was the rejection of biblical separatism and the labeling of it as “diabolical.” And there was Rome, showing the most humble, innocent, spiritually-passionate, and harmless of her many faces.


HAS THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH CHANGED ITS DOCTRINE OF JUSTIFICATION? (Friday Church News Notes, February 28, 2014, www.wayoflife.org fbns@wayoflife.org, 866-295-4143) - Anglican Episcopal Bishop Anthony Palmer, who has joined the pope in calling for Christian unity and condemning “division,” claims that the issue of justification has been settled and that Rome has agreed that justification is by grace alone. Therefore, there is no reason for further disunity. The protest is over, he says; there should be no more “protestants”; all Christians should be “catholics”; there should be one “church.” If the issue were not so serious with such terrible eternal ramifications, this position would be laughable. Palmer is referring to the 1999 Joint Declaration of Justification that was signed by the Vatican and some Lutheran denominations and has since been accepted by some Methodists. The declaration states, “Together we confess: by grace alone, in faith in Christ’s saving work and not because of any merit on our part, we are accepted by God and receive the Holy Spirit, who renews our hearts while equipping us and calling us to good works.”


FIRST, PALMER IS WRONG ABOUT ROME’S DOCTRINE OF SALVATION. The Joint Declaration on Justification doesn’t mean that the Roman Catholic Church no longer preaches salvation through sacraments! Rome has a genius for giving theological words new meanings. She is a chameleon who has changed colors countless times. In the current debate, she has redefined “grace” and “alone” and “justification.” She is an ecclesiastical example of a naughty little boy telling a lie with his fingers’ crossed behind his back, and the apostate Protestants sitting at her table don’t know or care. In the Council of Trent and the Second Vatican Council and the New Catholic Catechism, Rome stated her doctrine of salvation in the clearest of terms: salvation is by faith in Christ PLUS sacraments. Salvation was purchased by Christ and given to the “church” to be distributed through the sacraments, and it begins with baptismal regeneration. Rome has expressed ZERO repentance for this false gospel. (For documentation see the report “How Rome Denies Salvation by Grace Alone” at the Way of Life web site.)


SECOND, PALMER IS WRONG ABOUT THE ESSENCE OF THE REFORMATION. Insofar as it went (and it fell terribly short of being Scriptural), the essence of the Reformation was about the authority of Scripture -- sola scriptura. And the Roman Catholic Church is not even pretending that Scripture is the sole authority for its faith and practice. For this essential fact to be ignored shows the duplicity of the unity movement.


THIRD, PALMER IS WRONG ABOUT THE BASIS FOR UNITY. Even if two professing Christians or churches agree on the doctrine of salvation, that is far from being a sufficient basis for unity in fellowship and ministry. We are commanded to earnestly contend for the faith once delivered to the saints (Jude 3). What part of the faith? All of it! We are to mark and avoid those whose teaching is contrary to the doctrine which we have learned from Scripture (Rom. 16:17). Even if one accepts the philosophy of “essential” vs. “non-essential” doctrine, there are still dozens of “essential” doctrines that would form the basis for separation. We are to prove ALL things, not just some things (1 Thess. 5:21). Paul taught Timothy to allow “no other doctrine” into the churches (1 Tim. 1:3). This is not a complicated matter. The bottom line is that it is impossible to join any unity movement today while being faithful to God’s Word.


THE BREADTH OF THE POPE’S ECUMENISM (Friday Church News Notes, February 28, 2014, www.wayoflife.org fbns@wayoflife.org, 866-295-4143) - Pope Francis is fulfilling Bible prophecy with his broad ecumenical vision. According to Revelation 17, Roman Catholicism is at the heart of the one-world religion that will yoke together with the Antichrist. Only Rome could fit the bill as the city on seven hills, and only Catholicism is clothed in purple and scarlet, has a golden cup in her hand, and is drunken with the blood of the martyrs. But the vision of Revelation 17 extends beyond Rome. The Harlot is a mother who has daughters and her reach is global (Rev. 17:15). Ecumenism has been “in the air” since the great world missionary conferences of the turn of the 20th century and the Second Vatican Council of the 1960s. Francis is standing on the shoulders of popes such as John XXIII (who headed up Vatican II) and John Paul II (the personable jet-setting pope who was beloved of a long line of evangelicals led by Billy Graham). Francis is calling for unity among all Christians. And he is calling for unity with Jews. This month, when he received a delegation of the American Jewish Committee, he said that Catholics and Jews must work together “for a more just and fraternal world” (“Pope: Jews and Catholics,” AsiaNews.it, Feb. 13, 2014). Francis is even calling for unity with atheists. Last year he said, “The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. ... Even the atheists. Everyone! ... And this commandment for everyone to do good, I think, is a beautiful path towards peace” (“Pope at Mass,” Vatican Radio, May 22, 2013). For his part, John Paul II included all of the world religions in the ecumenical vision, yoking multiple times with Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, Sikhs, Bahai’s, Animists, etc. in prayer for world peace in Assisi, Italy.


CONCLUSION: The Friday Church News Notes is designed for use in churches and is published by Way of Life Literature’s Fundamental Baptist Information Service. Unless otherwise stated, the Notes are written by David Cloud. Of necessity we quote from a wide variety of sources, but this obviously does not imply an endorsement. We trust that our readers will not be discouraged. It is God’s will that we know the times (1 Ch. 12:32; Mat. 16:3) and that we be as wise as serpents and harmless as doves. The News Notes remind us that the hour is very late, and we need to be ready for the Lord’s coming. Are you sure that you are born again? Are you living for Christ? “And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed. The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light. Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying. But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof” (Rom. 13:11-14).
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“Mental Illness” – Rome’s New Ecumenical Tool and Possibly New Weapon Against True Believers

http://ephesians511blog.net/2014/03/05/mental-illness-romes-new-ecumenical-tool-and-possibly-new-weapon-against-true-believers/

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http://mentalhealthandthechurch.com/

John 10:20 – “And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye Him?”

Acts 26:24-25 – “And as he thus spake for himself, Festus said with a loud voice, Paul, thou art beside thyself; much learning doth make thee mad.

25 But he said, I am not mad, most noble Festus; but speak forth the words of truth and soberness.”

Conclusion

We all kind of saw this day coming didn’t we?
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And let's not forget how these mental(and physical) illnesses are caused by vaccines, Big Pharma drugs, and these processed (junk)foods. And not to mention too a lot of these "mental illness" diseases like depression have been completely made up so that Big Pharma can get big profit$. Shouldn't the RCC and the Warrens at least know this?

Oh wait a minute - both the RCC and Rick Warren are Council on Foreign Relations - so yeah, they know very well about these vaccines and other poisons that have infiltrated our food/water/drug supplies. Angry
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Non-Denominational Megapastor Stuns Congregation With Personal Revelation

A non-denominational megachurch pastor reportedly stunned his congregation this weekend when he announced that he and his wife are converting to Catholicism.

Ulf Ekman, pastor and founder of Word of Life Church in Uppsala, Sweden, told parishioners Sunday during his sermon that he and his wife, Birgitta, have experienced a theological change-of-heart, Charisma News reported.

On Ekman’s ministry website a statement titled, “Pastor Ulf Ekman to Be Accepted Into the Catholic Church” provides details on the preacher’s conversion, stating that “a process of many years of prayer and reflection” preceded the decision to embrace the Catholic faith.

“For Birgitta and me, this has been a slow process were we have gone from discovering new things, to appreciating what we have discovered, to approach and even learn from our fellow Christians,” Ekman is quoted in the release. “We have seen a great love for Jesus and a sound theology, founded on the Bible and classic dogma.”

The statement went on to explain that the couple found solace and intrigue in the Catholic Church’s “sacramental life,” while also revering what Ekman called “a solid structure for priesthood.”

While his Protestant views had previously led to critiques of the Catholic Church, the pastor said that, after studying the faith, he realized that many of those criticisms simply weren’t valid. The release emphasized that the conversion was the result of “a personal journey.”

“This led us to the realize that it was actually Jesus Christ who led us to unite with the Catholic Church,” the pastor continued.

From anger to sadness and confusion, people are responding to Ekman’s theological switch in a variety of ways, according to the Alethia blog and think tank. That said, it may not be entirely surprising to some, as Alethia’s Andreas Glandberger, who runs Alethia, noted that the pastor has taken “steps toward Roman Catholicism since 2007,” Charisma News reported.

Watch Ekman tell his congregation about the conversion here (go to the 25:00 mark to hear his specific comments about Catholicism).

The announcement comes after Ekman, who founded Word of Life about 30 years ago, announced his retirement in March 2013 as senior pastor at the church. Word of Life has around 3,300 members.

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When I lived in New Orleans, pretty much all of the so-called Baptist pastors there were in lockstep with the Catholic archdiocese. They were also good buddies with Louisiana's Catholic governor Bobby Jindal(who also served as the state's Health secretary and US Congressman prior to being governor in 2007), whom they would invite to SBC meetings. The Baptist seminary also had these "dialogue" events with Catholic priests.

Pretty much these false perversions have played a big role too - they speak the same language as Catholicism and other Babylonian religions.

It's only a matter of time now before all Baptist/Protestant ministers come out and say "We're Catholics too".
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Talk about the pot calling the kettle black! Hey Rick, you DO know that corporations have NO first amendment rights, right? Oh wait, your little megachurch IS a 501c3, so yes you DO know. Roll Eyes

And if you're so against Obamacare, then explain this...



If the contraceptive mandate passes, it will ruin a core U.S. ideology
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/religious-liberty-is-americas-first-freedom/2014/03/21/498c0048-b128-11e3-a49e-76adc9210f19_story.html

By Rick Warren,   Published: March 21
 
Rick Warren is pastor of the Saddleback Church, in Lake Forest, Calif., and the author of “The Purpose Driven Life.”

Does our Constitution guarantee the freedom of religion, or does it merely allow a more limited freedom to worship? The difference is profound. Worship is an event. Religion is a way of life.

Specifically, does the First Amendment guarantee believers of all faiths the freedom to practice their ethics, educate their children and operate family businesses based on their religious beliefs, moral convictions and freedom of conscience? Do Americans have the freedom to place our beliefs and ethics at the center of our business practices — or must we ignore them when we form a company?

These questions will be brought before the Supreme Court on Tuesday. The outcome of Sebelius v. Hobby Lobby will affect every American because any religion allowed to be practiced only inside a house of worship, and not in the day-to-day business of life, is a worthless faith.

Since I wrote “The Purpose Driven Life” 12 years ago, I have received more than 500,000 letters and e-mails from people trying to live in ways they believe honor God. For millions of Americans, faith is something you live by. It colors every decision and action, both at home and at work. It is personal, but it is not private.

**This right here shows he has a big ego - it was HIS *book* that "evangelized" 1000s of people? Whatever happened to the word of God, the bible?

David and Barbara Green are one example of a purpose-driven family leading a purpose-driven business. From the time the Greens started Hobby Lobby in their garage, building picture frames with their sons, they committed themselves and their company to one simple purpose: “Honoring the Lord in all we do by operating our company in a manner consistent with biblical principles.”

**Did you catch his buzz-phrase he's used for the umpteenth time? "purpose driven"? FYI, this is the SAME buzzphrase other "religions" AND New Agers use like Mitt Romney and Oprah! And how is building earthly riches(like this company does) honoring the Lord in a manner consistent with biblical principles?

Hobby Lobby has grown into a multibillion-dollar business with more than 550 stores and nearly 16,000 full-time employees. David Green has written, “We had faith that we would succeed if we lived and worked according to God’s Word.”

The Greens live their religious values and ethics in every aspect of their business: by providing salaries and benefits far above average industry levels and by their commitment to helping employees maintain a healthy work-life balance, which includes closing on Sundays so workers have more time with their families.

**Uhm, we're NOT under the OT law anymore. But as a "Christian" pastor, you SHOULD know this. Roll Eyes

Every year, Hobby Lobby gives a portion of its profits to charities, educational institutions, community ministries and churches around the world. My own congregation was a surprise beneficiary of the Greens’ generosity a few years ago, and that is how I first met this amazing family.

**charities? As in these man-centered, money-grabbing charities like Habitat for Humanity? educational institutions? As in these government, socialist-runned public schools? community ministries and churches? As in these 501c3 government-runned "churches"?

There is massive evidence that everything Hobby Lobby does is predicated on the Greens’ deep belief that they must honor God and obey his commands in their business. Every Christmas and Easter, Hobby Lobby takes out full-page ads to share the Greens’ faith in the communities where they have stores. Hobby Lobby is not a secular, publicly traded company. Rather, it is the personal, purpose-driven mission of one of the most devout families I’ve ever met.

**Uhm...Xmas and Ishtar are PAGAN holidays! And what is your obsession with "purpose driven"? Roll Eyes

Two years ago, the Greens’ commitment to practicing their religious convictions in their family business required that they object to just a few of the contraceptives the government requires providing to employees under the Affordable Care Act. They believe that a few specific drugs and devices have the potential to terminate life that has been conceived, and they view this as morally wrong based on Psalm 139:13-16, which says that God planned the purpose of every life before we were born. Represented by the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, they went to court, and now the case has made it to the Supreme Court.

**God PLANNED a PURPOSE of every life? Uhm, that's not what it says...

Psalms 139:13  For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb.
Psa 139:14  I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.
Psa 139:15  My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.
Psa 139:16  Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.


The administration argues that because Hobby Lobby is a for-profit corporation, the company has no religious rights under the First Amendment. In fact, the government says that exempting Hobby Lobby from paying for drugs and devices to which the Greens object would amount to an imposition of the Greens’ faith on their employees.

**Again, corporations(whether for profit or not), are treated as artificial persons b/c they registered with the state, therefore they are under state charter and have to abide by such. So therefore they have no 1st amendment rights.

The first people who came to America from Europe were devout pilgrims seeking the freedom to practice their faith. That’s why the first phrase of the first sentence of the First Amendment is about freedom of religion — preceding freedom of speech, freedom of the press and freedom of assembly. Why? Because if you don’t have the freedom to live and practice what you believe, the other freedoms are irrelevant. Religious liberty is America’s First Freedom.

In this case, the administration is insisting that those who form and operate a family business based on religious beliefs must disobey what they believe is God’s standard in order to obey the government’s program. The administration wants everyone to render unto Caesar not only what is Caesar’s but also what is God’s. If it wins, the first purpose on which the United States was founded would be severely damaged.

**And that's exactly the opposite both Hobby Lobby AND yourself did when you formed your entities - giving UP what is God's TO Caesar.

I used to own the letter that President Thomas Jefferson penned in February 1809 to the Methodist Episcopal Church of New London, Conn. (The Greens now own it because I wanted them to have it.) In that letter, Jefferson thundered, “No provision in our constitution ought to be dearer to man than that which protects the rights of conscience against the enterprises of civil authority.” My prayer is that the Supreme Court will agree with Jefferson.
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^^ Pretty much, this is yet another example of how the RCC has used this "defend religion freedom" agenda to lead everyone into a lot of misdirection. Other Catholic activists like Phyllis Schlafly do the same thing.
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Apparently, this "battle" against "mental illness" is yet another ECUMENICAL agenda...

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/mental-606966-warren-illness.html
In a rare partnership, 2 top O.C. faith leaders lead outreach to mentally ill

Roman Catholic Bishop Kevin Vann and Saddleback Church Pastor Rick Warren crossed paths shortly after the death of Warren’s son, who struggled with mental illness. They've embarked on a rare partnership: Do battle together against mental illness.

3/26/14

Roman Catholic Bishop Kevin Vann recalls his early days as a deacon in the 1980s. New at his parish, the first funeral he presided over was a suicide. Not long after, a man came to the rectory door claiming to hear voices. Vann didn’t know what to do, so he walked with the man for hours. A beloved priest suffered depression; Vann wasn’t sure how to help.
 
Last year, Saddleback Church Pastor Rick Warren endured the same anguished helplessness in a more personal way: He and his wife, Kay, buried their son Matthew. The 27-year-old, struggling with mental illness, ended his life on April 5. Warren later wrote about the help and medical intervention his son had received – none of which was enough.
 
The two men crossed paths shortly after Matthew Warren’s death. After private discussions, Vann, the leader of 1.2 million Catholics as head of the Diocese of Orange, and Warren, pastor of the 30,000-member evangelical church, embarked on a rare partnership: Do battle together against mental illness.
 
Their friendship has blossomed since, and on Friday their working relationship comes to fruition at the nation’s first religiously backed conference to address mental health issues.
 
The Gathering on Mental Illness and the Church at Saddleback Church’s Lake Forest campus will bring together national and county experts, who will hold roundtables and workshops. Warren and Vann are hosting the gathering with the National Alliance on Mental Illness – Orange County.
 
Some national experts call the partnership groundbreaking, and say the event marks the nation’s first large-scale ecumenical outreach.
 
Warren and Vann say they not only want to help those suffering, they want to empower church leaders. The goal is to equip pastors and churches nationwide in ways that will bring professional help and relief for those tortured by mental illness.
 
National statistics show one in four people will be afflicted with mental illness. While clergy are a first line of defense, some people don’t ask for help because of the stigma associated with mental illness. Studies have found that clergy nationwide receive little training on mental health.
 
The National Institute of Mental Health reported that individuals with disorders listed in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders requested assistance from clergy more often than from psychologists and psychiatrists combined.

**The same "clergy" who use these corrupted bible versions like the NIV? The same "clergy" who think their pews can confess their sins to them? Roll Eyes
 
“For a long time, Christian churches and individual communities have been working together, looking for ways to give a unified Christian witness to the difficult questions we all face,” Vann said. “In some ways it surprises me to think, that for some, the Gathering on Mental Health and the Church Conference seems novel or groundbreaking. The truth is that the Catholic Church has a long history of working with other Christian churches and with people of other faiths on the local and the international level.”
 
Vann added that the conference “provides an opportunity for two large and important faith communities in Orange County to come together, evangelicals and Catholics, and really anyone who is interested, to meet and talk about and pray about a real issue for many families, mental health.”
 
A decade ago, Rick and Kay Warren launched the PEACE plan in a massive effort to mobilize 1 billion members of congregations to attack five “global giants” – extreme poverty, pandemic disease, deficient education, conflict injustice and spiritual emptiness.
 
As part of that, the Warrens launched the Global Summit on AIDS – their assault on the deadly disease with an approach that claimed churches worldwide as the most capable to address the disease.
 
“Every year we learn more about the brain so there is more possibility for hope,” Warren said. “When we started with HIV/AIDS, there was an enormous stigma. I thought AIDS was the last taboo. People with mental illness will hide their pain. We want to remove that stigma.”
 
While the Mental Health Services Act of California provides financial resources and new programs, traditional treatment services don’t overcome the problems of stigma and discrimination. This requires the attention and participation of the entire community, including faith-based organizations, said Myrlene Chapman, a board member of the National Alliance.
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« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2014, 11:37:33 am »

Now wait a minute - didn't good 'ole slick Rick say how his son committed suicide b/c of a lack of gun control laws? And b/c he bought a gun illegally over the internet? Which is it, Rick? Roll Eyes





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