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« on: February 18, 2014, 10:33:55 am »

Recently we've been discussing here how the Constitution(1st amendment) and US government was set up for just that - that government should be SECULAR, or otherwise if they favor one religion(whether Christianity or otherwise), then they would have to favor them ALL.

Pt being that look at the rhetoric in this article - No, I don't endorse this op-ed piece, but nonetheless look at the Hegelian Dialectic/rhetoric game Rome's "culture wars" has been used to deceive Christians.

Christian Sharia Law in America

The question isn’t: Will conservatives push to enact laws based on the Bible? We are way beyond that.  The real questions are: 1. How many more of these laws do they want to impose? And, 2. What will our nation look like if their crusade is successful to bring America’s laws into agreement with “God’s law”?

To some on the right, America is a “Christian nation”—like Saudi Arabia is a Muslim nation—meaning that our nation’s laws should be based on their religious text. These forces aren’t moved by Thomas Jefferson’s famous letter in which he spoke of the need to create, "a wall of separation between church and state.” Nor will they be swayed by citing Ronald Reagan’s words, "Church and state are, and must remain, separate.”

**Uhm, NO! This whole "a wall of separation between church and state" is nothing but propaganda promoted by Churchianity as well - the 1st amendment in the Constitution specifically says the government can't favor one religion over another. BIG difference! And if Reagan really believed what he said here, then he would have pushed for legislation to get rid of 501c3.

Just last week we saw another example of creeping Christian Sharia Law with a bill passed by Kansas’ House of Representatives that would allow people and businesses to deny services to same sex couples if it violated their “religious beliefs.” This proposed law would in essence legally sanction discrimination against gay Americans because same sex marriage is not approved by the Bible.  Similar bills are pending in other State's including Mississippi, Idaho, and Arizona.

And in the past few years, we have seen pro-life Christian groups successfully lobby State legislatures to restrict access to abortions. They have also raised religious, not public policy, objections to the government funding birth control.

**Yeah, and they did almost nothing with this issue when the younger Bush was in office for 8 years(along with a GOP Congress most of the time)! And they had to wait until NOW to do something?

But here’s the alarming thing: These views are no longer the fringe of American politics. They are increasingly become mainstream conservative fare.

We saw that in 2012 when Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum declared his belief that the laws in our country must “comport” with God’s law. Santorum also argued in opposition to marriage equality, that our nation’s values “are based on Biblical truth… And, those truths don’t change just because people’s attitudes may change.”

**Santorum is also a Knights of Malta member, FYI.

And former Governor Mike Huckabee, who is considering running for president in 2016, proclaimed during his 2008 presidential race that our laws should be in accordance with God’s. In fact, Huckabee, an ordained Southern Baptist minister, went as far as to say: “…I believe it’s a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living God. And that’s what we need to do is amend the Constitution so it’s in God’s standards rather than trying to change God’s standards so it lines up with some contemporary view…”

**But somehow Huckabee doesn't have a problem with Catholics like Phyllis Schaefer who's pushing for "religious freedom"?

Does Huckabee have a shot at winning in 2016?  Well, recent polls show he’s currently the frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination.

Since we can’t talk the Huckabees and Santorums out of their views, then we should take a look at some of the more concerning passages from the Bible in case they truly mean it when they say our laws should be revised to agree with God’s law:

1. If a woman is found not to be a virgin on her wedding night, “she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death.”  Deuteronomy 22:20-21

KJB says much different -
Deuteronomy 22:20  But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel:
Deu 22:21  Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the wh0re in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.

To boot - this passage of scripture is given to ISRAEL!

2. “Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve.” 1 Timothy 2:10-13.

So does this mean FOX News and "conservative" talk radio will clean house of their female employees too?

3. “If a man commits adultery with another man's wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.”    Leviticus 20:10 (Unlikely conservatives will push for this law because with it would mean too many politicians would be put to death.)

4. “Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.”  Leviticus 20:9

Leviticus 20:9  For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.(KJB)

Then these GOP politicians et al might as well cut ties with all of their rock music and rock music supporters, b/c they have a lot of railing against the parents in their music

5. “For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a day of Sabbath rest to the Lord. Whoever does any work on it is to be put to death.” Exodus 35:2

Exodus 35:2  Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death. (KJB)

**Uhm, the NT church is NO longer under the OT law, so this commandment is moot.

Sure, some will say Huckabee, Santorum, and their supports don’t want to impose laws based on these extreme verses.  Actually recent history tells us a different story. With each success the right has seen, they have become more embolden and pushed for even more radical laws.

For example, not too long ago mainstream abortion opponents did not object to abortions in the case when a woman was raped. But in light of their recent success in restricting abortions, mainstream conservatives now advocate a stricter version of “God’s law” with no abortion exceptions—meaning that women would be sentenced to carrying a rapist’s child to term.

**Don't find anything wrong with the latest view at all - but nonetheless they've waited until NOW to change it? FYI, the Southern Baptist Convention supported abortions once upon a time ago, believe it or not!

In upcoming elections, we need to ask any candidate who cites the Bible as the rationale for their political position specifically how far do they intend to take that. At least then we won’t be surprised when they push to pass laws to silence women or stone women to death who aren’t virgins on their wedding night.
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