Message #41685

[Psalm 51:17]

Job 12:7  But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee:
Job 12:8  Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.
Job 12:9  Who knoweth not in all these that the hand of the LORD hath wrought this?
Job 12:10  In whose hand is the soul of every living thing, and the breath of all mankind.

The passage in the above post doesn't use the KJB(so here's the passage) - But yes, I agree, the first 2 verses doesn't try to imply that animals have spirits, b/c if you read the next 2 verses, it shows that it's the Lord that created them too.

Matthew 6:25  Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?
Mat 6:26  Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?
Mat 6:27  Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?
Mat 6:28  And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:
Mat 6:29  And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
Mat 6:30  Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith?


Ecc 3:18  I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts.
Ecc 3:19  For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity.
Ecc 3:20  All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.
Ecc 3:21  Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?

Again, read the WHOLE passage, instead of the first couple - this can be a problem with Christians(especially myself) when they read a mere 1 or 2 lines and say, "OK That's IT!". Pt being that verse 21 ends up summing up the whole thing. Ultimately, when men/women and animals die, their flesh turns to dust(as verse 20 says - and I think this is the context of verse 19), but ultimately as verse 21 says, men/women have spirits, and animals don't. So yeah, both eventually die after they live their lives in the flesh, but only men/women have the spirit in them.


According to these passages of scripture, I too don't see anything where animals go to heaven when they die.