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« on: October 25, 2013, 01:19:17 pm »

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Friday, October 25, 2013 at 5:46AM
Today's Show: REPENTANCE FROM THE MARK OF THE BEAST?

In a special one hour show, Chris brings the discussion on the Mark of the Beast to a conclusion.  We learn more about how the "mark" was understood through the Middle Ages, as it was recognized in association with the Papal system of Rome.  Yet strangely enough, there were no discussions about whether or not a person could receive the mark, and then repent later on.  This was because the ability to repent seems to have been taken for granted.  But a shift took place in the 19th century, as the understanding of prophecy changed from the classical Historicist view (taught by the Reformers) to a Futurist view, which is embraced by most Evangelicals today.  How did the shift in exegesis change the understanding of the mark, and whether or not a person could repent if they received it? 
http://www.noiseofthunder.com/storage/NOTR_REPENT.MARK.BEAST_10.22.13.mp3

OK, I've only listened to 1/2 of this - wanted to give my thoughts after I listened to it in its entirety, but nonetheless Pinto has raised some eyebrows in only 1/2 that he said. If he says anything new, will update it after I listen to the whole thing. Here is what he said...

1) He is pretty adamant that the Rev 13 Antichrist is the Papacy SYSTEM that arose in the 5th or so century. This is why he believes the mark of the beast is "spiritual", which is nothing more than a "confirmation" when one enters into the Roman Catholic Church.

2) He all but says the future, end times escatology is a heresy - and he even tries to tie it to the "teachings" of John Darby and Darby's close colleagues.

3) He believes the correct escatology is Historicism - which believes the Revelation, Daniel, Matthew 24, etc prophecies happen over the centuries.

4) And b/c he believes the mark of the beast is "spiritual" that comes from the RCC, it somehow means you can get saved later on like the Protestant Reformers(among others) did.

My comments - this is pretty much nothing new from Pinto(over the 2 years since I've been listening to him). He never believed in the proper future end times escatology. His Historicism views are also in great error b/c it was made up by the Catholic Church to begin with. Now since the 19th century, Baptist/Protestant churches have not only embraced it, but have scoffed at the proper end times future escatology. Even worse, modern-day churches believe somehow Nero was the Rev 13 Antichrist(and no longer the Papacy). It's not the other way around where it was Historicism first then futurism that Pinto implies.

As for the Darby angle - I hear it all the time when people try to reason why the future view is wrong - they always say, "But Darby made it up!"(without giving any reasons further).

Either way - the modern-day church system is being set up to where they will embrace the mark of the beast system when the Revelation seals get opened. And combine it with their false misinterpretations of Romans 13...

These modern-day churches in the AC's OWC system will say..."But Romans 13 says to submit to the government", then subsequently "OK, then taking the mark of the beast is mandatory"...
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