Target Syria NWO's next acquisition The Middle East- WW III - Muslim Civil War

[Psalm 51:17]

Senate panel approves resolution giving President Obama authority to use military force against Syria - @AP, @Reuters

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/congress-considers-measure-on-military-action-in-syria

Wow...that was quick!

[Mark]

Al-Qaeda Linked McCain's buddies Syrian Rebels Attack Christian Village

Associated Press
 BEIRUT
 Al-Qaida-linked rebels launched an assault on a regime-held Christian mountain village in the densely populated west of Syria and new clashes erupted near the capital, Damascus, on Wednesday -- part of a brutal battle of attrition each side believes it can win despite more than two years of deadlock.
 
In the attack on the village of Maaloula, rebels commandeered a mountaintop hotel and nearby caves and shelled the community below, said a nun, speaking by phone from a convent in the village. She spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisals.
 
With the world focused on possible U.S. military action against Syria, there were new signs of fragmentation in rebel ranks, with a small group of jihadis from Russia announcing it has broken away from an umbrella group known as Jabhat al-Nusra.
 
The Syria conflict, which began with a popular uprising in March 2011, has been stalemated, and it's not clear if U.S. military strikes over the regime's alleged chemical weapons use would change that. President Barack Obama has said he seeks limited pinpoint action to deter future chemical attacks, not regime change.
 
Obama has been lobbying for international and domestic support for punishing Syrian President Bashar Assad's regime, which the U.S. says fired rockets loaded with the nerve agent sarin on rebel-held areas near Damascus before dawn on Aug. 21, killing hundreds of civilians.
 
Obama has asked Congress to authorize the use of force, with a vote not expected before the week. Meanwhile, he has won little international backing for action. Among major allies, only France has offered publicly to join the U.S. in a strike.
 
France's Prime Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault also made a passionate appeal for intervention in Syria, placing the blame for a chemical attack on Assad and warning that inaction could let him carry out more atrocities.
 
Ayrault addressed the French National Assembly at the beginning of a debate on the wisdom of a French military response. Wednesday's debate ended without a vote -- since President Francois Hollande can order a military operation without one -- but it was part of his government's delicate dance to rev up support at home for an unpopular intervention.
 
While the U.S. and the French weigh possible strikes, the fighting in Syria grinds on.
 
On Wednesday morning, rebels from the al-Qaida-linked Jabhat al-Nusra group launched the assault on predominantly Christian Maaloula, some 60 kilometers (40 miles) northeast of Damascus, according to a Syrian government official and the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, an anti-regime group.
 
At the start of the attack, an al-Nusra fighter blew himself up at a regime checkpoint at the entrance to the village, said the Observatory, which collects information from a network of anti-regime activists.
 
The explosion was followed by fighting between the rebels and regime forces. Eventually, the rebels seized the checkpoint and disabled two tanks and an armored personnel carrier, the Observatory said. At least eight regime soldiers were killed in the fighting, the group said.
 
The nun said the rebels had taken over the Safir hotel atop a mountain overlooking the village and where shelling from there. "It's a war. It has been going from 6 a.m. in the morning," she said from her convent.
 
The said the convent houses 13 nuns and 27 orphans. She said around 80 people from the village had come to the convent for safety.
 
A Syrian government official confirmed the assault and said the military was trying to repel the rebels. He spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to give official statements.
 
Maaloula is a mountain village with about 2,000 residents, who are among a tiny group in the region that still speaks a version of Aramaic, the ancient language of biblical times also believed to have been spoken by Jesus.
 
The French debate offered a preview of the challenges the Obama administration faces when the U.S. Congress debates Syria next week.
 
The French government is in a particularly difficult situation, with many opposition party members claiming that the Socialist president is merely acting as a lapdog for the U.S. In what a possible sign of budding support for an intervention, officials from countries neighboring Syria who met Wednesday in Geneva did not express explicit opposition to any military action.
 
Ayrault was careful to say that his certainty about the facts of the attack comes from French sources. But he mentioned for the first time a death toll of nearly 1,500 -- which is around what the Americans have cited.
 
"The Syrian regime carries the entire responsibility" for the attack, said Ayrault. "Not to react would be to send a terrible message to Bashar Assad and to the Syrian people: Chemical weapons can used tomorrow again, against Damascus, against Aleppo, maybe even in a bigger way."
 
Ayrault said a punitive military response would help shift the balance in a 2 1/2-year-old civil war -- which was tipping in favor of Assad -- and was the only way to convince the Syrian leader that he must go to the negotiating table.
 
Many in the opposition have called for a vote in the French parliament, even though Hollande's administration could win one since his party holds a comfortable majority.
 
Conservative French lawmakers have also said an attack without a U.N. resolution is risky, evoking the Iraq war when France pointedly refused to join the U.S.-led invasion without Security Council support. During Wednesday's debate, Christian Jacob, president of the right-leaning UMP party, criticized Hollande for ceding France's independence to the Americans.
 
He said France's guiding principle should be: "always allied with the United States, never falling into line."
 
Syria's parliament speaker sent a letter to his French counterpart ahead of Wednesday's debate, urging lawmakers not to make any "hasty" decisions. Syrian lawmakers sent a similar letter to Britain ahead of a parliamentary vote there that rejected military action against Syria.
 
Meanwhile, Russian President Vladimir Putin, one of Assad's most vocal supporters, warned the West against taking any one-sided action in Syria.
 
In an interview late Tuesday, Putin told The Associated Press that Russia "doesn't exclude" supporting a U.N. resolution on punitive military strikes against Syria if it is proved that Damascus used poison gas on its own people. Still he questioned the proof released by Britain, the United States and France as part of their efforts to build international support for a military strike.
 
Any proof needs to go before the U.N. Security Council, Putin told the AP. "And it ought to be convincing. It shouldn't be based on some rumors and information obtained by special services through some kind of eavesdropping, some conversations and things like that."
 
He did say, however, that Russia had frozen new shipments to Syria of a missile defense system.
 
On Tuesday, the White House won backing for military action from two powerful Republicans -- House of Representatives Speaker John Boehner and House majority leader Eric Cantor.
 
In Syria, the Al-Baath newspaper, the mouthpiece of the country's ruling Baath party, branded American lawmakers who backed military action against Syria as "advocates of war and terrorism."
 
"When the Obama administration seeks a broader mandate from Congress, which it basically does not need, this means that it prepares itself for what is bigger and more dangerous," the paper said in an editorial Wednesday.
 
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/09/04/Syria-rebels-attack-regime-held-Christian-village

[Mark]

Syrian Army crushes U.S.-backed rebel assault from Jordan

President Bashar Assad has defeated a U.S. effort to use
 Jordan as a launching pad for the overthrow of his regime.
 
Western diplomatic sources said Assad’s military and security forces
 crushed a U.S. campaign to send hundreds of trained and equipped Sunni
 rebels from Jordan to regain a key city in southern city.
 
The sources said a force sponsored by the Western-backed Free Syrian Army failed to reach even 10 kilometers within Syria before the rebels were detected and attacked by the Syrian Army.
 
“This was a well-trained and equipped force meant to eventually reach Damascus and overthrow the regime,” a source said. “Instead, the rebels crossed the Jordanian border and within hours were on the run.”
 
The sources said the FSA force, with fighters from Egypt and Saudi Arabia, consisted of two battalion-size units, or nearly 600 fighters.
 
The sources said the fighters, trained by the CIA as well as Jordan’s Special Operations Force Command, were equipped with anti-tank, anti-aircraft missiles as well as night-vision systems.
 
Most of the equipment was said to have come from the former Yugoslavia.
 Since late 2012, Jordan has served as the main venue for the U.S.-sponsored
 project to train and equip Syrian rebels.
 
On Aug. 17, the two FSA units crossed the Jordanian border for the
 nearby Syrian city of Dera, a distance of fewer than 15 kilometers. But the
 sources said the FSA fighters were immediately besieged by Druse and Bedouin
 militias and refused help by Al Qaida-aligned units.
 
“Nobody wanted them, and even those who have been fighting Assad saw
 them as a threat,” another source said.
 
Within hours, Syrian Army units arrived and pursued FSA fighters west
 toward the Golan Heights and the frontier with Israel. The sources said
 discipline broke down within the FSA units and some of the fighters tried to
 attack a United Nations peace-keeping force in the Golan in an attempt to
 acquire human shields.
 
“The CIA plan was simple: To establish an FSA presence in southern Syria
 that would serve as a magnet for other opposition forces to march on to
 Damascus,” the second source said.
 
By Aug. 20, the sources said, the FSA force, which contained Western
 mercenaries disguised as rebels, was routed, with elements besieged by
 Syrian Army units. They said the FSA defeat ended U.S. hopes of using Jordan
 for a rapid rebel advance that could decide the Syrian war in 2013.
 
The sources said the defeat highlighted the increasing isolation of
 Washington in directing the rebel campaign in Syria. They said the U.S.
 strategy drew from the revolt against Col. Moammar Gadhafi in Libya in
 2011, in which NATO allies used Benghazi as a launching pad for attacks.
 
“The Americans have been pursuing this Benghazi strategy for more than a
 year despite the fact that Syria is not Libya, Assad is certainly not
 Gadhafi, and that Damascus has powerful allies that are fighting to save
 the regime,” the second source said. “But the feeling among the allies is
 that America is not listening.”

http://www.worldtribune.com/2013/09/03/syrian-army-crushes-u-s-backed-rebel-assault-from-jordan/

[Psalm 51:17]

http://news.yahoo.com/video/raw-gunfights-warplanes-strike-near-164825448.html
Video: Raw: Gunfights, Warplanes Strike Near Damascus
9/4/13

Activists report ongoing violence near the outskirts of the Syrian capital Damascus, while the international community continued to debate a possible punitive strike against the regime for an alleged deadly chemical attack. (Sep. 4)

[Psalm 51:17]

Do you catch Rumsfeld's rhetoric here?

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/03/20312487-rumsfeld-slams-obama-on-syria-calls-him-weakest-president-in-his-lifetime?lite
Rumsfeld slams Obama on Syria, calls him weakest president in his lifetime
9/3/13

Deriding President Barack Obama as the weakest president "in my adult lifetime," former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld called on the White House on Tuesday to fish or cut bait in Syria.

Rumsfeld said there could be no middle ground in Syria: "You either ought to change the regime, or you ought to do nothing," he said during a question-and-answer session after a lecture at the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Museum in Grand Rapids, Mich.

In his customarily colorful way, Rumsfeld, 81, picked away at Obama for declaring last week that any U.S. response to Syria's alleged use of chemical weapons against its own people wouldn't target President Bashar Assad.

"Why would you go in and fire a shot across the bow?" asked Rumsfeld, who served as Ford's defense secretary during the 1970s and again as head of President George W. Bush's Pentagon during the planning for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in the early 2000s.

"All it does is make a splash, and ... what you've probably achieved is the embarrassment of the United States for being feckless and ineffective," he said.

Rumsfeld also accused Obama of cutting Secretary of State John Kerry off at the knees after Kerry made a "compelling and persuasive" case for strong military action in Syria last week — only for Obama to later say any U.S. response in Syria would be a "limited, narrow act."

"The president is not, in my view, providing the kind of leadership that I think almost any president in my adult lifetime would be providing," he said.

"You have to have a vision, Rumsfeld said. "You have to know what you're going to do, and you have to provide the kind of leadership the commander in chief would provide."

Despite all of his statements, when asked what guidance he would give on the Syrian situation, however, Rumsfeld did admit, "I'm glad I don't have to give advice to be honest with you."

[lightneverdims]

Teachers at my school keep talking about it...Mostly (from what I remember) most are hoping, and somewhat expecting, this to be solved through social reasoning and non-war ways...But I see this escalating...

[Mark]

Syria Conflict Is Fulfillment of End Times Prophecy? Christian Theologians Weigh In

While some have speculated about the possibility that the ongoing Syrian civil war may be connected to the End Times, many theologians are skeptical.

Dr. Floyd Elmore, professor of theology at Southern Evangelical Seminary in Matthews, N.C., told The Christian Post that no one could have absolute certainty on a connection.  "Since the Lord said 'no man knows the day or the hour when He comes,' I don't really think that anyone can say with absolute certainty that these specific events are going to lead to the End Times Catastrophes," said Elmore.

Elmore also talked about how events like Syria could be used as "stage props" when showcasing a possible end of days.  "'Stage props' that would make a very good End Times scenario, but since we're supposed to be expecting the Lord to come at any time, I think there have been very good stage props in every generation," he noted.

"So these could be very good stage props, but we just don't know if this will be the last scenario or not…Apparently people have just looked into the concordance and found wherever the word 'Damascus' occurs…"

As the civil war in Syria continues and international tensions are mounting as to the United States' possible response, some have pointed to possible biblical prophecy regarding the current event. Jan Markell, founder and director of Minnesota-based Olive Tree Ministries, told OneNewsNow about the connections she could see between reports of a gas attack and Old Testament scripture.  "If one Israeli dies from chemicals coming from Syria, Israel is going to take the issue into her own hands," said Markell.  "She would do some real destruction to the city of Damascus. Israel will send a huge message to the rest of the Islamic world [that] this is what happens when you mess with us."

Markell and others have specifically pointed to Isaiah 17, which states in the first verse that "Damascus will cease from being a city, And it will be a ruinous heap."

Dr. Robert Mulholland, who is a recently retired professor of New Testament of Asbury Theological Seminary in Wilmore, Ky., told The Christian Post that he did not believe there was a connection.

"The same was predicted during both the first and the second Iraq conflicts (to say nothing of the various conflicts between Israel and its neighbors)," said Mulholland.  "Of course, Israel's long and complex relationship with Damascus throughout the OT (Old Testament) period provides great grist for the speculation mills."

Mulholland also noted the context of Isaiah 17, which was in regards to historical events in the Ancient Near East.  "In this case, Isaiah was predicting the demise of Damascus at the hands of Assyria in the eighth century [Before Christ]," said Mulholland.  "If one wanted to try to make the case for Isaiah 17 predicting the end times, then Iran (the present day successor to Assyria) would be responsible for Damascus' demise and not its primary ally."

Meanwhile, Dr. John Scott Redd, Jr., associate professor of Old Testament at Reformed Theological Seminary in Washington, D.C., pointed out the fundamental problem of applying Isaiah 17 to the modern Syrian conflict.  "I believe that such an interpretation as that articulated in the article commits the exegetical error of uprooting the text from its historical setting," said Redd, who is also president of RTS.  "I understand the prophet Isaiah here as calling for repentance in the face of mounting Assyrian aggression. All of Isaiah 7-38 is given in the context of the Assyrian expansion and the Lord's use of the empire to judge his enemies and the unfaithful in Judah."

Redd added that while he believed the Isaiah passage has "meaning for us today," this significance is "not in a direct prophecy-fulfillment sort of way."

"Rather, we see here a picture of God's presence in the world and his hand in national affairs. Just as Isaiah preached, we too should repent and turn to God in faith (and call for repentance in the world)," said Redd.

"I believe this message is crucial for the church both in the West and around the world."

http://www.christianpost.com/news/syria-conflict-is-fulfillment-of-end-times-prophecy-christian-theologians-weigh-in-103767/

[Mark]

CRS: DOD Estimates ‘Over 75,000 Troops’ Needed to Secure Syria’s Chem Weapons

The Congressional Research Service (CRS) said in a report released on August 20 that the Pentagon has estimated it would take “over 75,000 troops” to secure Syria’s chemical weapons.

Meanwhile, the draft text of the resolution authorizing President Barack Obama to use force in Syria that is being taken up by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee today prohibits the president from putting ground troops in Syria "for the purpose of combat operations"--but appears to leave open the possiblity that the president could put troops in Syria to secure chemical weapons.

"The authority granted in section 2 does not authorize the use of the United States Armed Forces on the ground in Syria for the purpose of combat operations," says the text of the draft resolution.

However, Section 2 of the resolution gives the president the authority to use the Armed Forces in Syria "as he determines necessary and appropriate" for a limited set of purposes, including "to protect our allies and partners against the use of" weapons of mass destruction.

- See more at: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/crs-dod-estimates-over-75000-troops-needed-secure-syria-s-chem#sthash.q1c12D7Q.dpuf

[Mark]

Syria war: Is it about the last gasp for the PetroDollar ?
Syria is about the last gasp for the Petro-Dollar, the emergence of energy pipeline geopolitics, the rise of the NatGas Co-op, the new dominance of Russian Gazprom, the eclipse of OPEC, the fall of the house of Saud, and a grand adjustment process in global commerce and banking. The NatGas Co-op eclipses OPEC and ushers in a new era. 
http://osnetdaily.com/2013/09/syria-war-is-it-about-the-last-gasp-for-the-petrodollar/


Syria: We Will Never Give In
Syria said Wednesday it was mobilizing its allies against a possible U.S.-led military strike over a suspected gas attack and would never give in, even if a third world war erupts.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/171638#.Uihv439Ujlc


Obama has Tripped over his own Red Line
Obama has tripped over his own red line - leaving the prestige and authority of his Office and America's reputation in tatters.   
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/13790#.UihwS39Ujlc

Kerry 'Lied' on Al-Qaida Presence in Syria – Putin
Vladimir Putin on Wednesday accused US Secretary of State John Kerry of “lying” in Congress by saying there was no al-Qaida in Syria. “I watched the debates in Congress. A congressman asks Mr. Kerry: ‘Is al-Qaida there?’ He says: ‘No, we are telling you responsibly that they are not,’” Putin said in televised comments. Putin added that the Syrian rebels’ “main combat unit is al-Nusra, an al-Qaida unit. They [the US] are aware of that. … He [Kerry] lied. And he knows that he lied. This is sad.”   
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20130904/183168334/US-Lied-When-It-Said-Theres-No-Al-Qaida-in-Syria--Putin.html


Barack Obama and Vladimir Putin set for collision over Syria at G20 summit
Russian president signals he will take action if America strikes at Assad as US counterpart admits relations have hit a wall   
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/04/obama-putin-syria-g20-summit





 

[Psalm 51:17]

Syria Conflict Is Fulfillment of End Times Prophecy? Christian Theologians Weigh In

While some have speculated about the possibility that the ongoing Syrian civil war may be connected to the End Times, many theologians are skeptical.

Dr. Floyd Elmore, professor of theology at Southern Evangelical Seminary in Matthews, N.C., told The Christian Post that no one could have absolute certainty on a connection.  "Since the Lord said 'no man knows the day or the hour when He comes,' I don't really think that anyone can say with absolute certainty that these specific events are going to lead to the End Times Catastrophes," said Elmore.

Elmore also talked about how events like Syria could be used as "stage props" when showcasing a possible end of days.  "'Stage props' that would make a very good End Times scenario, but since we're supposed to be expecting the Lord to come at any time, I think there have been very good stage props in every generation," he noted.

"So these could be very good stage props, but we just don't know if this will be the last scenario or not…Apparently people have just looked into the concordance and found wherever the word 'Damascus' occurs…"

There shall be scoffers in the last days, walking after their own lusts...

This seems to be the typical mindset in the typical modern-day pastor/seminary professor nowdays. The reasons are obvious - they are more concerned about their own earthly material wealth than holding onto eternal life and treasures in heaven.

Also - I would like to hear what they think about sodomy spreading full blown in this country, with 13 states + DC(and counting) legalizing gay marriage. Is this "very good stage props making an end times scenerio" as well?

"I believe this message is crucial for the church both in the West and around the world."

http://www.christianpost.com/news/syria-conflict-is-fulfillment-of-end-times-prophecy-christian-theologians-weigh-in-103767/

Again, more propaganda, albeit subtlely by Churchianity pastors/seminary professors - here you can see they are pushing replacement theology.

[Psalm 51:17]

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/09/05/Syrian-rebels-fight-army-near-Christian-village
9/5/13
Al Qaeda-Linked Rebels Attack Christian Village

(AP) Syrian rebels fight army near Christian village
 By BARBARA SURK
 Associated Press
 BEIRUT
 Syrian government troops battled al-Qaida-linked rebels over a regime-held Christian village in western Syria for the second day Thursday, as world leaders gathered in Russia for an economic summit expected to be overshadowed by the prospect of U.S.-led strikes against the Damascus regime.

 Residents of Maaloula said the militants entered the village late Wednesday. Rami Abdul-Rahman, the director of the Britain-based Observatory for Human Rights, said the fighters included members of the of al-Qaida affiliated Jabhat al-Nusra group.

 Despite heavy army presence in the village, Abdul-Rahman said the rebels patrolled its streets on foot and in vehicles, briefly surrounding a church and a mosque before leaving early Thursday.

 The rebels launched the assault on the ancient Christian village of Maaloula _ which is on a UNESCO list of tentative world heritage sites _ on Wednesday after an al-Nusra fighter blew himself up at a regime checkpoint at the entrance to the mountain village. The village, about 40 miles (60 kilometers) northeast of Damascus, is home to 3,300 residents, some of whom still speak a version of Aramaic, the ancient language of biblical times believed to have been spoken by Jesus.

 Heavy clashes between President Bashar Assad's troops and Nusra Front fighters persisted in surrounding mountains Thursday, according to the Observatory, which collects information from a network of anti-regime activists.

 Speaking by phone from a convent in the village, a nun told The Associated Press that the rebels left a mountaintop hotel Thursday after capturing it a day earlier. The nun said the frightened residents expect the Islamic militants to return to the Safir hotel and resume shelling of the community below.

 "It's their home now," the nun said. She said some 100 people from the village took refuge in the convent. The 27 orphans who live there had been taken to nearby caves overnight "so they were not scared."

 The nun spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisals.

 Meanwhile Thursday, a car bomb exploded outside a research center belonging to the Ministry of Industry in area of Soumariya near Damascus, killing four people and wounding several others, a government official said. The official who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly.

 In Damascus, three people were injured when several mortar shells hit two residential neighborhoods, the state news agency SANA reported. Rebels fighting to topple Assad have frequently fired mortars in the capital to disrupt life there that the regime tries hard to portray as normal and detached from the fighting raging around the country.

 In the northern province of Aleppo, a Syrian surgeon working for an international aid group that supports doctors in war zones was killed. Doctors Without Borders said in a statement Thursday that the 28-year-old surgeon, Muhammad Abyad, was killed in an attack. Abyad, whose body was found Tuesday, had been working in an Aleppo hospital run by the group.

 The Syrian conflict started in March 2011 as largely peaceful protests against Assad's rule. It turned into a civil war after opposition supporters took up arms to fight a brutal government crackdown on dissent. After two years of fighting, the civil war hit a stalemate with the rebels controlling much of the countryside in the north, east and south, and the regime holding on to most urban centers in the west, where the majority of Syrians live.

 The four-decade iron rule of the Assad family over Syria long has rested on support from the country's ethnic and religious minorities, including Christians, Shiite Muslims and Kurds. The Assad family and key regime figures are Alawites, followers of an offshoot of Shiite Islam, while most rebels and their supporters are Sunni Muslims.

 More than 100,000 people have been killed in the war, with nearly 7 million people uprooted from their homes.

 United Nations humanitarian chief Valerie Amos met with Syrian officials in the capital Thursday, lobbying them for access to civilians trapped in areas where fighting has raged.

 An alleged chemical attack near Damascus in August has brought the U.S. at the brink of carrying punitive airstrikes on Syria after the Obama administration concluded that Assad's forces were responsible.

 President Barack Obama has been lobbying for international and domestic support for punishing Assad's regime, which the U.S. says fired rockets loaded with the nerve agent sarin on rebel-held areas near Damascus before dawn on Aug. 21, killing hundreds of people.

 Obama has called chemical weapons use a "red line." Top administration officials have argued before the Senate and around the world that Assad would take inaction by Washington as a license for further brutality against his people.

 So far, however, Obama has won little international backing for action. Among major allies, only France has offered publicly to join the U.S. in a strike.

 At the Group of 20 economic summit in St. Petersburg, Obama will later Thursday confront Syria's closest supporter, Russia, as well as foreign leaders skeptical of his call for an international military intervention in Syria.

 Moscow and Washington have sharply disagreed over ways to end the Syria bloodshed with Russia firmly supporting Assad's regime and protecting it from punitive actions in the United Nations. The U.S. has backed the opposition and has repeatedly called on Assad to step down. He has refused and the U.S. has been supporting the rebels with non-lethal aid and by training some rebel units in neighboring Jordan.

 Russian President Vladimir Putin insists Obama has yet to prove his case for striking Syria, although Putin appeared to have tempered his rhetoric slightly in a pre-summit interview Wednesday with The Associated Press. He said then that he wouldn't rule out backing a U.N. resolution if it can be proved Assad used chemical weapons, as the U.S. has alleged.

 EU President Herman Van Rompuy urged U.N. investigators to release information as soon as possible about the chemical weapons attack in Syria so that the international community can decide how to respond.

 In unusually strong language, Van Rompuy told reporters in St. Petersburg on Thursday that the Aug. 21 attack "was a blatant violation of international law and a crime against humanity." But, he said, it's too early for a military response.

 Pope Francis urged world leaders to abandon the "futile pursuit" of a military solution in Syria and work instead for dialogue and negotiation to end the conflict.

 In a letter to Putin, the Group of 20 host, the pope lamented that "one-sided interests" had prevailed in Syria, preventing a peaceful solution and allowing the continued "senseless massacre" of innocents.

[Mark]

Russia claims 100-page report blaming Syrian REBELS for chemical weapons attack...
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/09/05/201268/russia-releases-100-page-report.html

BRUTALITY REVEALED....
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/05/world/middleeast/brutality-of-syrian-rebels-pose-dilemma-in-west.html?hp

EXECUTING MEN ON KNEES...
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/05/world/middleeast/brutality-of-syrian-rebels-pose-dilemma-in-west.html?hp

'We swear to Lord of Throne, we will take revenge'...
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/05/world/middleeast/brutality-of-syrian-rebels-pose-dilemma-in-west.html?hp

Kerry claims 'moderate'...
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/05/us-syria-crisis-usa-rebels-idUSBRE98405L20130905

AL QAEDA ATTACKS CHRISTIAN VILLAGE...
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/09/05/Syrian-rebels-fight-army-near-Christian-village

U.S. Travel Warning: Rebels Have 'Claimed Nearly 600 Attacks'...
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/us-travel-warning-al-qaeda-affiliated-syrian-rebels-have-claimed

PUTIN: 'KERRY IS LYING'
http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2013/09/05/obama-kerry-putin-syria-russia-g-20/2769683/

[Mark]

Russia says it's compiled 100-page report blaming Syrian rebels for a chemical weapons attack

Russia says it has compiled a 100-page report detailing what it says is evidence that Syrian rebels, not forces loyal to President Bashar Assad, were behind a deadly sarin gas attack in an Aleppo suburb earlier this year.

In a statement posted on the Russian Foreign Ministry’s website late Wednesday. Russia said the report had been delivered to the United Nations in July and includes detailed scientific analysis of samples that Russian technicians collected at the site of the alleged attack, Khan al Asal.

Russia said its investigation of the March 19 incident was conducted under strict protocols established by the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, the international agency that governs adherence to treaties prohibiting the use of chemical weapons. It said samples that Russian technicians had collected had been sent to OPCW-certified laboratories in Russia.

The report itself was not released. But the statement drew a pointed comparison between what it said was the scientific detail of the report and the far shorter intelligence summaries that the United States, Britain and France have released to justify their assertion that the Syrian government launched chemical weapons against Damascus suburbs on Aug. 21. The longest of those summaries, by the French, ran nine pages. Each relies primarily on circumstantial evidence to make its case, and they disagree with one another on some details, including the number of people who died in the attack.

The Russian statement warned the United States and its allies not to conduct a military strike against Syria until the United Nations had completed a similarly detailed scientific study into the Aug. 21 attack. It warned that what it called the current “hysteria” about a possible military strike in the West was similar to the false claims and poor intelligence that preceded the United States invasion of Iraq.

“The Russian report is specific,” the ministry statement said. “It is a scientific and technical document.”

The statement also noted that the attention paid to the Aug. 21 attack had diverted attention from the investigation into the March 19 incident, which was the reason U.N. investigators were in Syria when the more recent attack took place.

“Unfortunately, that investigation still essentially has not begun,” the statement said.

There was no immediate comment from the United States. Independent chemical weapons experts contacted by McClatchy said they had not had time to read the Russian document, which was released as Secretary of State John Kerry was appearing before the House Foreign Affairs Committee to make the Obama administration’s case for a retaliatory strike on Syria as punishment for the attack.

A U.N. team spent four days late last month investigating the Aug. 21 incident. The samples it collected from the site and alleged victims of the attack are currently being examined at OPCW labs in Europe. U.N. Secretary General Ban ki-Moon has urged the United States to delay any strike until after the results of that investigation are known.

Richard Guthrie, formerly project leader of the Chemical and Biological Warfare Project of the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, who said he had not seen the original report, said the Russian statement on the makeup of the sarin found outside Aleppo, which the Russians said indicated it was not military grade, might reflect only that “there are a lot of different ways to make sarin.”

He added: “The messy mix described by the Russians might also be the result of an old sarin stock being used. Sarin degrades (the molecules break up) over time and this would explain a dirty mix.”

But he also said that there could be doubts about the Russian conclusion that the rockets that delivered the sarin in the March 19 incident were not likely to have come from Syrian military stocks because of the use of RDX, an explosive that is also known as hexogen and T4.

“Militaries don’t tend to use it because it’s too expensive,” Guthrie said. He added in a later email, however, that it’s not inconceivable that the Syrian military would use RDX “iff the government side was developing a semi-improvised short-range rocket” and “if there happened to be a stock available.”

“While I would agree that it would be unlikely for a traditional, well-planned short-range rocket development programme to use RDX in that role, it is not beyond the realms of possibility that, as the Syrian government did not seem to have an earlier short-range rocket programme, it may have been developing rockets with some haste and so using materials that are at hand,” he said.

Another expert, Jean Pascal Zanders, raised a note of caution, questioning a Russian assertion that the sarin mix appeared to be a western World War II vintage.

"The Western Allies were not aware of the nerve agents until after the occupation of Germany,” he wrote in an email. “The USA, for example, struggled with the sarin (despite having some of the German scientists) until the 1950s, when the CW program expanded considerably."

The Russian Foreign Ministry posted the statement shortly after Russian President Vladimir Putin had asked a Russian interviewer what the American reaction would be if evidence showed that Syrian rebels, not the Assad regime, had been behind a chemical weapons attack.

The report dealt with an incident that occurred March 19 in Khan al Asal, a town outside the city of Aleppo, in which 26 people died and 86 were injured. It was that incident that the U.N. team was originally in Syria to investigate when the Aug. 21 attack took place.

 The statement’s summary of the report said that neither the munitions nor the poison gas in the Khan al Asal attack appeared to fit what is possessed by the Syrian government. The statement said Russian investigators studied the site, sent the materials they found to study to OPCW sanctioned laboratories in Europe, and followed agreed upon United Nations investigation standards.

According to the statement, the report said the shell “was not regular Syrian army ammunition but was an artisan-type similar to unguided rocket projectiles produced in the north of Syria by the so-called gang ‘Bashair An-Nasr.’ ”

In addition, Russian investigators determined that the burst charge was RDX, which is “not used in military chemical munitions.”

The Russian analysis found soil and shell samples contained a sarin gas “not synthesized in an industrial environment,” the statement said. The report said the chemical mix did not appear to be a modern version of the deadly agent but was closer to those “used by Western states for producing chemical weapons during World War II.”

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/09/05/201268/russia-releases-100-page-report.html#storylink=cpy

[Mark]

AND HERE IT IS, the story weve dreaded and waited to see. Could this fullfill prophecy?

Russia Warns Of Nuclear Disaster If Syria Is Attacked

A Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman warned any military intervention in Syria would create a nuclear disaster.
 
“If a warhead, by design or by chance, were to hit the Miniature Neutron Source Reactor (MSNR) near Damascus, the consequences could be catastrophic,” Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Aleksandr Lukashevich stated, according to Russia Today.

Lukashevich said if a military strike were launched without seeking approval from the United Nations Security Council  that new suffering for other countries of the Middle East and North Africa would occur. He added that the region could be at risk of “contamination by highly enriched uranium and it would no longer be possible to account for nuclear material, its safety and control.”
 
He urged the United Nations International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) to complete a risk evaluation carrying out “an analysis of the risks linked to possible American strikes on the MNSR and other facilities in Syria.”
 
Rueters quoted an IAEA spokesperson stating the agency was aware of the statement, but is waiting for a formal request asking the agency to complete risk evaluation and that the group would consider the questions raised if a request is received.
 
A Senate panel voted Wednesday to give President Barack Obama the authority to use military force against Syria in response to a deadly chemical weapons attack.
 
The vote was 10-7, with one senator voting present. The full Senate is expected to vote on the measure next week.
 
Sen. King: Obama Ordering Syria Strike Without Congressional Approval Would Be ‘Grave Mistake’
 
The resolution would permit Obama to order a limited military mission against Syria, as long as it doesn’t exceed 90 days and involves no American troops on the ground for combat operations.

The Democratic chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, Sen. Bob Menendez, and the panel’s top Republican, Sen. Bob Corker, crafted the resolution.
 
The vote marked the first time lawmakers have voted to authorize military action since the October 2002 votes giving President George W. Bush the authority to invade Iraq.
 
Now the resolution heads to the full Senate for final approval and the House of Representatives must approve a similar measure if Congress is to authorize the use of force in Syria.
 
Obama traveled to Sweden on Wednesday ahead of the G20 Summit as he is seeking international support for a military strike against Syria for use of chemical weapons. Obama landed in Stockholm to meet with Swedish Prime Minister John Fredrik Reinfeldt for a press conference on their shared views for international action in Syria.
 
“When bad stuff happens around the world, the first question is always, ‘What is the United States going to do about it … the real question is: after we go through all this, can we find a reason not to act?”
 
Obama expressed optimism that Congress would vote to approve his call for military action in Syria, and said that it is not just an American issue, it’s a worldwide concern.
 
McCain Doesn’t Support Senate Resolution to Authorize Military Force Against Syria
 
He dodged the question, however, as to what would happen should Congress not approve a strike.
 
“I believe Congress will approve it. America recognizes that as difficult as it is to take any military actions, even as limited as the one we’re talking about, even without boots on the ground … if the international community fails to maintain certain norms, standards and laws; that over time, this world becomes less safe,” Obama said. “It becomes more dangerous … to all of humanity, and we’ve seen that again and again in history. And the people of Europe are very familiar with what happens when the international community fails to act.”
 
The Obama administration says 1,429 people died from the attack on Aug. 21 in a Damascus suburb.  A U.N. inspection team is awaiting lab results on tissue and soil samples it collected while in the country before completing a closely watched report.

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/09/05/russia-warns-of-nuclear-disaster-if-syria-is-hit/

[Mark]

Pelosi Warns: Obama May Not Have House Votes for war... She wants Assads little dog
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/09/05/pelosi-not-sure-house-democrats-will-back-syria-resolution/

LATEST COUNT: YES: 49 -- NO 199
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2013/09/02/2561371/congress-support-military-action-syria-thinkprogress-whip-count/

Head of Black Caucus asks members to stay quiet...    really? making this about race? 
http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/middle-east-north-africa/320427-head-of-black-caucus-asks-members-to-stay-quiet-on-syria

Liberals reject case for Syria strikes; believe Obama and Kerry are lying... most people do, wonder why that is
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2013/sep/4/liberals-reject-obamas-case-syria-strikes-believe-/print/#ixzz2e1xRBgsa

Senate resolution allows boots on ground...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/4/senate-crafted-syria-resolution-riddled-loopholes-/

[Mark]

Kerry: Arab countries offered to pay for invasion

Secretary of State John Kerry said at Wednesday’s hearing that Arab counties have offered to pay for the entirety of unseating President Bashar al-Assad if the United States took the lead militarily.
 
“With respect to Arab counties offering to bear costs and to assess, the answer is profoundly yes,” Kerry said. “They have. That offer is on the table.”
 
Asked by Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla.) about how much those countries would contribute, Kerry said they have offered to pay for all of a full invasion.
 
“In fact, some of them have said that if the United States is prepared to go do the whole thing the way we’ve done it previously in other places, they’ll carry that cost,” Kerry said. “That’s how dedicated they are at this. That’s not in the cards, and nobody’s talking about it, but they’re talking in serious ways about getting this done.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics-live/liveblog/the-houses-syria-hearing-live-updates/#e68f139f-e012-476c-876e-2467ba30e5e3

Is this what the US has become? Bet that country is Saudi Arabia

State lists 10 countries backing military action

The State Department has identified ten countries that it says have explicitly endorsed a U.S. military response to alleged use of chemical weapons in Syria, but won't say which nations have offered to actually join in military action.
 
In addition to the U.S., Australia, Albania, Canada, Denmark, France, Kosovo, Poland, Romania and Turkey are on board with an attack on Syria in response to intelligence indicating use of chemical weapons in the Damascus suburbs last month, State Department Spokeswoman Jen Psaki told reporters Thursday at a regular news briefing.
 
Secretary of State John Kerry told lawmakers on Capitol Hill this week that ten countries had offered to take part in military action, but Psaki suggested that he was intending to refer to more generalized backing of such an effort.
 
"There are a lot of private conversations that take place about countries' willingness to participate in a variety of ways, whether military support,public support, financial support," Psaki said, before declining to detail those commitments.

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2013/09/state-lists-countries-backing-military-action-171882.html

where are those ARAB countries? Dont see them there, in fact, all of those countries are uhm, not very military prone, and well anything that involves France has a near 100% chance of failure.

[Mark]

U.S. envoy sees no viable path forward on Syria in U.N. Security Council


There is "no viable path forward" in the U.N. Security Council when it comes to responding to the August 21 chemical attack in Syria that killed hundreds because Russia is holding the council hostage, the U.S. envoy to the United Nations said on Thursday.
 
U.S. Ambassador Samantha Power also told reporters that the United States has been briefing U.N. member states on its intelligence about the August 21 chemical weapon attack, which Washington blames on forces loyal to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. The United States says over 1,400 people, many of them children, died in that attack.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/05/us-syria-crisis-un-usa-idUSBRE9840W420130905

[Psalm 51:17]

Liberals reject case for Syria strikes; believe Obama and Kerry are lying... most people do, wonder why that is
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2013/sep/4/liberals-reject-obamas-case-syria-strikes-believe-/print/#ixzz2e1xRBgsa

Well, at least they're consistent. They opposed the Iraq war as well.

With that being said - my head is spinning over all of the Syria news coming in!

[Mark]

[Mark]

More Russian naval presence near Syria

As tensions continued to simmer over Syria, Russia has said it would neither participate in any direct armed confrontation nor stick to the sidelines should a war break out in the Levantine state .

Displaying skills of a veteran grandmaster used to making calibrated moves on the diplomatic chessboard, Mr. Putin chose to rely on studied ambiguity while carefully deliberating on Moscow’s forthcoming plans.

InHe spoke in a well-timed interview withto Channel One and the Associated Press (AP) ahead of the G-20 summit which is expected to be dominated by the Syrian crisis, Russian President Vladimir Putin said: “Certainly, we do not intend and will not engage in any conflicts.” But he added that, “We have our own ideas about what and how we are going to do in the event of conflict development with the use of weapons, or without it. We have our own plans, but it’s still too early to talk about it.”.

Missiles

If there was a clue about the trajectory of the President’s thinking, it came in the form of his revelation that Moscow was ready to arm Syria with “game-changing” S-300 air defence missiles, if the need arose.

Moscow would also be ready to transfer advanced weapons to “some regions in the world” in case “international regulations” were violated. “We have a contract for the delivery of the air defence systems S-300, we have delivered some components [to Syria] for these air defence systems, but the supplies are not complete, we have suspended the supplies,” the Russian leader affirmed. However, “if we witness that some steps are being taken in violation of the effective international regulations, we will think it over how we should act in the future, particularly regarding the supplies of such sensitive weapons in some regions of the world”.

Mr. Putin said Russia’s arsenal of air defence missiles had grown in sophistication beyond the S-300 missiles, signalling that supplies to foreign partners may not be confined to these projectiles.

The President pointed out that the S-300 missiles were inferior to the latest S-400 air defence systems and the S-500s, which were in the developmental stage. Russia has so far blocked the sales S-300 missiles to Iran, but analysts say that Moscow’s perceptions could change in case Syria, Tehran’s core ally, was attacked.

Mr. Putin stressed that Moscow would consider western military action against Syria outside the sanction of the U.N. security council as an act of “aggression”.

 The Russian President’s interview also seemed timed with a parallel decision by Moscow to strengthen the naval presence close to the Syrian coastline in the Mediterranean, which already has American warships. Russia’s Interfax news agency quoted a military source as saying Moscow is dispatching a missile cruiser to the east Mediterranean to take over the navy’s operations in the region. The command-and-control ship, Moskva, will be joined by a destroyer from Russia’s Baltic fleet and a frigate from the Black Sea fleet.

“The Cruiser Moskva is heading to the Gibraltar Straits. In approximately 10 days it will enter the east Mediterranean, where it will take over as the flagship of the naval task force,” the source said. Interfax had earlier reported that Russia was also sending a reconnaissance ship to the region, which would operate separately from the main naval task force.

Russia’s incremental naval build up — far modest than the accumulation of American warships — is taking place at a time when the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee drafted a resolution on Tuesday permitting up to 60 days of military action against the government of President Bashar al-Assad, but denying presence of any boots on the ground.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/more-russian-naval-presence-near-syria/article5094001.ece

[Kilika]

“With respect to Arab counties offering to bear costs and to assess, the answer is profoundly yes,” Kerry said. “They have. That offer is on the table.”

Yep, it's all about the love of money in the world.

And yes, this is exactly what the indebted US has become as a result of not paying the bills. Financially, the world has the US by the bills. The US has truly become a "do boy" for the world's creditors. Either way, the US has been used as both do boy and muscle by bankers for decades.

Seriously, if these events have really happened, why are there not a dozen countries there already forcing a stop to the violence? How could any decent-minded person just sit back and argue over the wording of some stupid resolution?

When cops see a fight, they immediately break it up, then they try to determine who was at fault. In Syria, mass murder is being committed, and the world just argues over who supports what.  

[Psalm 51:17]

Yep, it's all about the love of money in the world.

And yes, this is exactly what the indebted US has become as a result of not paying the bills. Financially, the world has the US by the bills. The US has truly become a "do boy" for the world's creditors. Either way, the US has been used as both do boy and muscle by bankers for decades.

Seriously, if these events have really happened, why are there not a dozen countries there already forcing a stop to the violence? How could any decent-minded person just sit back and argue over the wording of some stupid resolution?

When cops see a fight, they immediately break it up, then they try to determine who was at fault. In Syria, mass murder is being committed, and the world just argues over who supports what.  

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing too - if what Assad (supposedly)did was truly horrendous, then why in the world hasn't ANYONE taken action immediately, but instead are "debating" this and that for hours on end? Even those leaders in Congress that are against it are taking part in this nonsense as well.

A lot like Iraq in 2002 - the Bush admin and his handlers claimed how Iraq was a national security threat, but they just spent MONTHS talking with vain words to no end. And even worse, the typical Churchianity pastor just included "Please give President Bush wisdom in all of this" every week in their services(while acting like Iraq was a national security threat).

[Psalm 51:17]

Yep, it's all about the love of money in the world.

And yes, this is exactly what the indebted US has become as a result of not paying the bills. Financially, the world has the US by the bills. The US has truly become a "do boy" for the world's creditors. Either way, the US has been used as both do boy and muscle by bankers for decades.

Seriously, if these events have really happened, why are there not a dozen countries there already forcing a stop to the violence? How could any decent-minded person just sit back and argue over the wording of some stupid resolution?

When cops see a fight, they immediately break it up, then they try to determine who was at fault. In Syria, mass murder is being committed, and the world just argues over who supports what.  

And look at how these "war of words" is playing out...

For some reason, Rick Santorum is against striking Syria - but en yet, wasn't he a staunch support of the Iraq war? Anyhow, look at his REASONING WHY he doesn't want to invade Syria(and it has nothing to do with Obama's and Kerry's LIES)...

http://news.yahoo.com/rick-santorum-now-opposes-a-strike-on-syria-144142794.html
Rick Santorum now opposes a strike on Syria
9/5/13

Former Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum, who has long supported a U.S. strike on Syria, now opposes President Barack Obama’s call for an attack, he said in a statement Thursday.

“In light of yesterday's approval by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee authorizing U.S. military force in Syria, I wanted you to know that I strongly oppose such action,” Santorum said. “When these atrocities in Syria came to light last year, I advocated for military intervention to take out the Assad regime, a strong supporter of Iran. Had President Obama and then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton acted then in support of pro-democracy forces, we could have removed Assad and helped usher in stability for that country. But we have a very different situation today. After nearly two years, 100,000 people killed, a rebel force comprised of al Qaeda and a Syrian regime in a much a stronger position, a military strike would no longer be in our national security interest.”

In his statement, which was sent to the e-mail list of supporters for his conservative advocacy group Patriot Voices, Santorum asked readers to contact lawmakers to urge them to vote against the authorization resolution when it comes up for votes in the House and Senate next week.

“There are no good outcomes here,” Santorum said. “An al Qaeda-run Syria is no better than an Assad-Iran-Hezbollah-run Syria. What is happening there is tragic, but it is not in the United States' best interest to intervene with a military strike.”

After he lost his Pennsylvania Senate seat in 2007, Santorum worked as a foreign policy analyst with a focus on Iran at the Washington, D.C.-based Ethics & Public Policy Center, where he advocated for an active and hawkish U.S. foreign policy. He launched a bid for the Republican presidential nomination in 2012 and lost to former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.

Santorum has made no secret that he is considering a second run for the White House in 2016, and positioning himself against Obama’s call for military action on Syria puts him in line with other possible presidential hopefuls in his party.

[lightneverdims]

I am really starting to see, mostly, the fake, scripted, Democrat vs. Republican spiel that has been going on for the past century: First World War a democratic president, mostly conservatives were against it. For Second World War...FDR presidency, I believe most members supported the war efforts so it's a draw there....But after that it once again became whomever controlled the majority, and was president, determined whether or not you support the war effort....Most Republicans are against an attack, I believe I see most Democrats for it...

[Psalm 51:17]

I am really starting to see, mostly, the fake, scripted, Democrat vs. Republican spiel that has been going on for the past century: First World War a democratic president, mostly conservatives were against it. For Second World War...FDR presidency, I believe most members supported the war efforts so it's a draw there....But after that it once again became whomever controlled the majority, and was president, determined whether or not you support the war effort....Most Republicans are against an attack, I believe I see most Democrats for it...

Yes - which is why I'm rather surprised people(in general) don't see these red flags - for example, Sen Ted Cruz, GOP-TX(who's being labeled a hero among both the GOP AND the "truth" movement) has opposed the attack, BUT let's not forget Cruz worked for GEORGE W. BUSH's election campaign team in 2000. OOPS! Yeah, where was Cruz when Bush pushed for Iraq in 2002?

Ultimately, yes, this is how they play the game b/c quite simply, it's how they keep everyone not only on opposite sides of the playing fields, but also in the dark as well - and it works every time b/c they end up getting the citizens to do just that, complain and debate to no end. And besides, if they were REALLY serious about the situation in Syria(whether they support the attack or not), then why in the world are they coming out on national tv talking, talking, and talking with vain babbling when they SHOULD be planning it out quietly and BEHIND CLOSED DOORS? When you make war plans, do you let the enemy know even the LEAST HINTS of your plans?

This was the big red flag with Iraq, as said earlier - if Iraq was really a national security threat, then why didn't our politicians in DC take immediate action, instead of fiddling around for months?

[Psalm 51:17]

Well, the bible warns about Caesar - was reading Romans 8 earlier today, and this passage in particular reminds me of Caesar, and why they BOTH "sides" play this little game on Capitol Hill.

Rom 8:5  For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
Rom 8:6  For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Rom 8:7  Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Rom 8:8  So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
Rom 8:9  But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

[Psalm 51:17]

http://news.yahoo.com/russian-warships-cross-bosphorus-en-route-syria-141156573.html
Russian warships cross Bosphorus, en route to Syria
9/5/13

Three Russian warships crossed Turkey's Bosphorus Strait Thursday en route to the eastern Mediterranean, near the Syrian coast, amid concern in the region over potential US-led strikes in response to the Damascus regime's alleged use of chemical weapons.

The SSV-201 intelligence ship Priazovye, accompanied by the two landing ships Minsk and Novocherkassk passed through the Bosphorus known as the Istanbul strait that separates Asia from Europe, an AFP photographer reported.

The Priazovye on Sunday started its voyage from its home port of Sevastopol in Ukraine "to the appointed region of military service in the eastern Mediterranean", a military official told the Interfax news agency.

Russia, a key ally of Damascus, has kept a constant presence of around four warships in the eastern Mediterranean in the Syrian crisis, rotating them every few months.

It also has a naval base in the Syrian port of Tartus whose origins date back to Moscow's close relationship with Damascus under the Soviet Union.

Moscow vehemently opposes the US-led plans for military action against the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in response to the chemical attack outside Damascus last month.

Russian President Vladimir Putin warned on Wednesday that any US Congress approval for a military strike against Syria without UN consensus would represent an "aggression".

[Mark]

Kerry: Arab countries offered to pay for invasion

Secretary of State John Kerry said at Wednesday’s hearing that Arab counties have offered to pay for the entirety of unseating President Bashar al-Assad if the United States took the lead militarily.
 
“With respect to Arab counties offering to bear costs and to assess, the answer is profoundly yes,” Kerry said. “They have. That offer is on the table.”
 
Asked by Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla.) about how much those countries would contribute, Kerry said they have offered to pay for all of a full invasion.
 
“In fact, some of them have said that if the United States is prepared to go do the whole thing the way we’ve done it previously in other places, they’ll carry that cost,” Kerry said. “That’s how dedicated they are at this. That’s not in the cards, and nobody’s talking about it, but they’re talking in serious ways about getting this done.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics-live/liveblog/the-houses-syria-hearing-live-updates/#e68f139f-e012-476c-876e-2467ba30e5e3

Is this what the US has become? Bet that country is Saudi Arabia

Just whose war is this?
Pat Buchanan decries notion of Americans 'hired out to do the big-time killing for royals'

Wednesday, John Kerry told the Senate not to worry about the cost of an American war on Syria.

The Saudis and Gulf Arabs, cash-fat on the $110-a-barrel oil they sell U.S. consumers, will pick up the tab for the Tomahawk missiles.

Has it come to this – U.S. soldiers, sailors, Marines and airmen as the mercenaries of sheikhs, sultans and emirs, Hessians of the New World Order, hired out to do the big-time killing for Saudi and Sunni royals?

Yesterday, too, came a stunning report in the Washington Post.

The Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations has joined the Israeli lobby AIPAC in an all-out public campaign for a U.S. war on Syria

Marvin Hier of the Simon Wiesenthal Center and Abe Foxman of the Anti-Defamation League have invoked the Holocaust, with Hier charging the U.S. and Britain failed to rescue the Jews in 1942.

Yet, if memory serves, in ’42 the Brits were battling Rommel in the desert and the Americans were still collecting their dead at Pearl Harbor and dying on Bataan and Corregidor.

The Republican Jewish Coalition, too, bankrolled by Sheldon Adelson, the Macau casino mogul whose solicitude for the suffering children of Syria is the stuff of legend, is also backing Obama’s war.

Adelson, who shelled out $70 million to bring down Barack, wants his pay-off – war on Syria. And he is getting it. Speaker John Boehner and Majority Leader Eric Cantor have saluted and enlisted. Sheldon, fattest of all fat cats, is buying himself a war.

Yet, is it really wise for Jewish organizations to put a Jewish stamp on a campaign to drag America into another war that a majority of their countrymen do not want to fight?

Moreover, this war has debacle written all over it. Should it come, a divided nation will be led by a diffident and dithering commander in chief who makes Adlai Stevenson look like Stonewall Jackson.

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Gen. Martin Dempsey is having trouble even defining the mission. While Obama says it will be an in-and-out strike of hours, a “shot across the bow,” John McCain says the Senate resolution authorizes robust strikes, lethal aid to the rebels and a campaign to bring down Bashar Assad.

If the Republican Party backs this war, it will own this war.

Order Pat Buchanan’s brilliant and prescient books at WND’s Superstore.

And U.S. involvement will last not for days, but for the duration. And if our power is unleashed, our prestige and superpower status go on the line.

If the rebels then lose, we lose. And if the rebels win, who wins?

Is it the same jihadists who just shelled that Christian village and terrorized that convent of Christian nuns?

Is it the same rebels seen on the front page of Thursday’s New York Times about to execute, Einsatzgruppen-style, captive Syrian soldiers, forgetting only to have the victims of their war crime dig their own graves first?

Does the Republican Party really want to own a war that could end with al-Qaida in power or occupying sanctuaries in Syria?

Does the U.S. Jewish community really want to be responsible for starting a war that ends with 2 million Christian Syrians facing a fate not unlike that of Poland’s Jews?

About the debate on this war, there is an aspect of the absurd.

We are told we must punish Assad for killing Syrians with gas, but we do not want Assad’s regime to fall. Which raises a question: How many Syrians must we kill with missiles to teach Assad he cannot kill any more Syrians with gas? Artillery, fine. Just no gas.

How many Syrians must we kill to restore the credibility of our befuddled president who now says he did not draw that “red line” on chemical weapons; the world did when it outlawed such weapons.

Yet this statement may offer Obama a way out of a crisis of his own making without his starting a war to save face.

Iran and Russia agree chemical weapons were used. Vladimir Putin has said Russia will back military action against those who did it. The Russians have put out a 100-page document tracing the March use of chemical weapons to the rebels. The Turks reportedly intercepted small amounts of sarin going to the rebels. We claim solid proof that Assad’s regime authorized and used chemical weapons.

Why not tell the Russians to meet us in the Security Council where we will prove our “slam-dunk” case?

If we can, and do, we will have far greater support for collective sanctions or action than we do now. And if we prove our case and the U.N. does nothing, we will have learned something about the international community worth learning.

But the idea of launching missiles based on evidence we will not reveal about Syria’s use of chemical weapons, strikes that will advance the cause of the al-Qaida terrorists who killed 3,000 of us and are anxious to kill more, would be an act of such paralyzing stupidity one cannot believe that even this crowd would consciously commit it.

http://www.wnd.com/2013/09/just-whose-war-is-this/

[Mark]

Video: Syrian Rebel Admits Using Chemical Weapons

There is now a VIDEO of them admitting to it!!!! come on!!

“We’ll kill their women and children like Osama Bin Laden said”

A video has emerged of an opposition rebel militant in Syria apparently confessing to using chemical weapons in order to follow Osama Bin Laden’s mantra of killing women and children.



The individual in the clip, Nadeem Baloosh, is a member of an insurgent group called Riyadh Al Abdeen, which is active in the Latakia area of Syria.

Baloosh speaks of “chemicals which produce lethal and deadly gases that I possess,” before going on to state, “We decided to harm them through their women and kids.”

Baloosh ponders if it is acceptable to harm women and children before quoting the Koran, “Fight them as they fight you. ” He goes on to quote Osama Bin Laden (whom other rebel groups have openly praised).

“We’ll kill their women and children like Sheikh Osama Bin Laden said – “until they cease killing our women and kids,” he states.

Baloosh goes on to talk about the Syrian Army approaching the area where his rebel group was located, before stating, “So we had the idea that this weapon was very powerful and effective to repel them, we announced if they approached one meter, everything is permitted.”

“We will strike them in their homes, we will turn their day into night and their night into day,” adds Baloosh.

The footage adds to the increasing weight of evidence that suggests US-backed rebels possess and have used chemical weapons on more than one occasion, although such reports have been habitually downplayed by the mainstream media.

Earlier today Russia announced that it had compiled a 100 page report proving opposition rebels “were behind a deadly sarin gas attack in an Aleppo suburb earlier this year.”

Carla Del Ponte, the leading member of the UN inquiry into the attack, which happened in March, told Swiss TV that there existed “strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof” that rebels were responsible for the atrocity.

As we highlighted last week, Syrian rebels in the Damascus suburb of Ghouta admitted to a reporter that they were responsible for last month’s chemical weapons incident which western powers have blamed on Bashar Al-Assad’s forces, revealing that the casualties were the result of an accident caused by rebels mishandling chemical weapons provided to them by Saudi Arabia.

Despite the fact that the report was written by credible Associated Press and BBC correspondent Dale Gavlak, it has received virtually zero mainstream attention.

In addition, leaked phone conversations that emerged earlier this year between two members of the Free Syrian Army contain details of a plan to carry out a chemical weapons attack capable of impacting an area the size of one kilometer. Footage was also leaked showing opposition militants testing what appeared to be nerve agents on laboratory rabbits.

There are also multiple other videos which apparently show US-backed rebels preparing and using chemical weapons.

infowars  so.....  i hope not

http://www.infowars.com/video-syrian-rebel-admits-using-chemical-weapons/

[Mark]

Republican congressman withdraws support for Syria strike
By Aaron Blake, Updated: September 5, 2013

Rep. Michael Grimm (R-N.Y.), who on Saturday said he supported President Obama’s decision to launch military action in Syria, has changed his mind.

In a statement Thursday, Grimm says the window for action has now passed and that the feedback from his constituents has made him re-think his previous position.

“Thus, after much thought, deliberation and prayer, I am no longer convinced that a U.S. strike on Syria will yield a benefit to the United States that will not be greatly outweighed by the extreme cost of war,” Grimm said.

Grimm added: “Now that the Assad regime has seen our playbook and has been given enough time to prepare and safeguard potential targets, I do not feel that we have enough to gain as a nation by moving forward with this attack on our own.”

The remarks stand in stark contrast to what Grimm said less than a week ago.

The Staten Island Advance quoted Grimm as saying he was “supporting the president on this.”

“We have to keep our word; this is about our credibility,” Grimm said. “We can’t permit a precedent where there is a use of chemical weapons and there is no response.”

Grimm is the 91st House member to express opposition to military action in Syria, along with 93 who have expressed skepticism. That means the ranks of those likely to vote against a use of force resolution is getting close to the 217 that will be required to defeat it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/09/05/republican-congressman-withdraws-support-for-syria-strike/?print=1