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« Reply #780 on: September 12, 2013, 05:33:09 pm »

So somehow Putin's "op-ed column" winds up in the NY Times? Roll Eyes
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« Reply #781 on: September 12, 2013, 09:22:34 pm »

http://www.timesofisrael.com/un-report-to-indicate-assad-behind-chemical-attacks/
UN report to indicate Assad behind chemical attacks’

Official says an investigative team will present findings on Monday, including a ‘wealth’ of circumstantial evidence against regime


9/12/13

United Nations investigative team has amassed a “wealth” of evidence indicating that Syrian President Bashar Assad was responsible for the chemical attack that took place on August 21, killing as many 1,400 people, Foreign Policy magazine reported Wednesday.

The investigators will present their findings on Monday to UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, and will offer strong circumstantial evidence that government forces were responsible for the deadly attack, an unnamed senior Western official was quoted as saying. The report is based on the team’s examination of spent rocket casings, ammunition, and soil, blood, and urine samples, according to the report, but will stop short of directly accusing Assad of perpetrating the attack on his own people.

The investigators have “gotten very rich samples — biomedical and environmental — and they have interviewed victims, doctors and nurses,” the official was quoted as saying, adding that “they are very happy with the wealth of evidence they got.”

US officials expected the report to confirm US allegations that sarin gas was used in the attack.

The UN delegation consisted of 20 members and was led by Swedish chemical weapons expert Ake Sellstrom. They arrived in Syria on August 18 to investigate allegations that Syrian President Bashar Assad had employed chemical weapons in earlier attacks.

In June, US President Barack Obama said he had “conclusive evidence” that Assad was responsible for the chemical weapons used in those earlier attacks.

Three days after the delegation arrived in Damascus, the large chemical attack was launched, allegedly by government forces. Several days later, on August 26, the investigative team came under sniper fire when it arrived at the scene of the attack to conduct an examination.

One of the UN vehicles was damaged, but nobody was injured by the gunfire.

The team left Syria on August 31.

Assad has all along denied responsibility for the alleged chemical weapons attacks, claiming that opposition forces were behind them all.

Russian President Vladimir Putin, Assad’s key ally, wrote in an op-ed piece published Wednesday that “no one doubts that poison gas was used in Syria. But there is every reason to believe it was used not by the Syrian army, but by opposition forces, to provoke intervention by their powerful foreign patrons.”

Earlier this week, US Secretary of State John Kerry, in an apparent offhand remark, suggested that direct US military intervention could be averted if Syria agreed to place all of its chemical weapons under international control. Russia, which has long been an ally of the Assad regime, pitched the idea to Syria, whose foreign minister, Walid Moallem, welcomed the proposal.

The initiative prompted Obama to announce that he would be putting on the back burner plans to appeal to US lawmakers for approval for a military strike.

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US Declares Victory With Russian Plan On Syrian Chemical Arms

US President Barack Obama says threat of military action is what put diplomatic deal on table, hopeful Assad will follow through on his renouncement of his chemical weapons arsenal.

WASHINGTON/NEW YORK – "The Obama administration on Wednesday declared that the credible threat of force against Syria led its embattled leader, Bashar Assad, to renounce his chemical arsenal after decades of denying its existence.

On Monday, Russia proposed that Syria cede control of its chemical weapons program to international monitors so it can be destroyed.

Syrian leaders accepted the deal, saying their government would identify its chemical sites and sign the Chemical Weapons Convention.

“It’s too early to tell whether this offer will succeed, and any agreement must verify that the Assad regime keeps its commitments,” President Barack Obama said in an address to his nation on Tuesday night. “But this initiative has the potential to remove the threat of chemical weapons without the use of force, particularly because Russia is one of Assad’s strongest allies.”

The deal is on the table, Obama said, “in part because of the credible threat of US military action,” and because of his personal diplomacy with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Obama’s national address, originally scheduled to make the case to a skeptical public that striking Syria was both a moral and strategic imperative of the US, became a justification for the threat of force as well as an explanation of why his administration would give diplomacy a chance.

“I’ve ordered our military to maintain their current posture to keep the pressure on Assad, and to be in a position to respond if diplomacy fails,” he said. “Our ideals and principles, as well as our national security, are at stake in Syria, along with our leadership of a world where we seek to ensure that the worst weapons will never be used.”

US Secretary of State John Kerry is set to begin two days of meetings with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov in Geneva on Thursday to discuss the details of a plan.

They will be joined by chemical weapons experts, who will explain exactly what would be required of an investigations team challenged with dismantling a 1,000- ton chemical weapons arsenal in the middle of Syria’s civil war.

State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said the administration had a “responsibility to pursue” the deal, which would, if realized, be “an enormous step forward.”

“We’re not naive about the challenges. We don’t think this will be easy. But that’s why we’re going to Geneva,” Psaki said.

Iran’s Ayatollah Ali Khamenei responded to the possible diplomatic breakthrough on Wednesday and said he was “hopeful” that the US was “serious” about refraining from a strike on his country’s ally.

“I am hopeful that the United States’ new attitude to Syria is serious and not a game with the media,” Khamenei said in a public address. “For weeks they have threatened war against the people of this region for the benefit of the Zionists.”

The US said it has been in contact with the Iranians throughout the crisis.

“We have conveyed our views regarding Syria and the Assad regime’s use of chemical weapons to the Iranian leadership through the Swiss, our protecting power in Tehran,” National Security Council spokeswoman Bernadette Meehan told The Jerusalem Post.

“This is a channel we have available to us to convey our views on a range of regional security matters.” Psaki told reporters that the administration is “working towards a binding Security Council resolution,” while acknowledging that Russia may obstruct that path. Russia and China have both opposed even symbolic resolutions in the Security Council over the past two years condemning the violence in Syria.

France has drafted a resolution that would cite Chapter VII of the UN Charter, which allows the international community to use military power to enforce its provisions.

After two days of frantic back and forth, sudden declarations of cooperation, and emergency meetings that were subsequently canceled, the UN seems to have quieted down. However, Farhan Haq, spokesman for the secretary-general, assured reporters that “things are still moving very quickly” and that “the UN still has a strong role to play.”

Haq remained adamant that no timeline could be given for when the results of the UN investigative team’s laboratory tests on the samples taken from sites in Syria could be released, nor did he comment on what the UN would do in the event it was determined that a non-state actor, and not the Syrian government, perpetrated the alleged chemical weapons attacks.

Secretary-General Ban Kimoon “welcomes President Obama’s decision to take time to further explore this diplomatic opportunity to achieve this crucially important objective,” Haq said.

He further said he hoped Russian and US meetings later this week between Lavrov and Kerry would be “productive.”

Haq would not comment on whether the UN-Arab League’s joint special envoy to Syria, Lakhdar Brahimi, would participate in the meetings between Kerry and Lavrov, or whether he would meet separately with the two diplomats. Haq confirmed that Brahimi would travel to Geneva later this week and that Brahimi and his team “are in regular contact with the US and Russian governments.”

Also on Wednesday, the UN Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights released a report detailing the findings of an independent commission into several massacres and other war crimes that have occurred since the beginning of the Syria crisis in 2011.

The report, which covers the period of fighting between May 15, 2013, and July 15, 2013, confirms one civilian massacre perpetrated by rebel groups, and at least seven by the Syrian government. Between 150 and 250 people were killed in Bania and Ras al-Nabaa, two coastal towns known to be sympathetic to the rebels. The report confirmed the reported mass killing of 450 people by Syrian government forces and Hezbollah fighters during a battle for the town of Qusair in western Syria.

The one mass killing attributed to rebel groups occurred in June in the town of Hatla in the eastern province of Deir al-Zor, during which 40 people were killed."

http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2013/09/12/us-declares-victory-with-russian-plan-on-syrian-chemical-arms/
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« Reply #784 on: September 13, 2013, 08:54:00 am »

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US Declares Victory With Russian Plan On Syrian Chemical Arms

US President Barack Obama says threat of military action is what put diplomatic deal on table, hopeful Assad will follow through on his renouncement of his chemical weapons arsenal.

"diplomacy" - that buzzword gets used quite a bit in the political world, as if those who know how to avert war are heros for going the "diplomacy" route.

The Antichrist will use dipolacy too...

Daniel 9:27  And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Daniel 8:25  And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.
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« Reply #785 on: September 13, 2013, 09:37:24 am »

http://news.yahoo.com/video/russia-sends-another-navy-ship-161442490.html
Video: Russia sends another navy ship towards Syria
9/13/13

Another Russian destroyer heads towards the Syrian coast as Moscow, a key ally of Damascus, rotates its navy vessels in the Mediterranean for what it calls a security guarantee. Rough cut (no reporter narration).
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« Reply #786 on: September 13, 2013, 10:51:49 am »

You know - just about every message forum I surf(whether it's PPF, some GOP establishment forum, or a sports forum) - they all seem to be making a political issue out of this first and foremost. I mean you can't deny 100s died in an evil chemical attack in Syria. But even more evil is that since Aug 21, Capitol Hill(and the rest of the world's governments for that matter) are dragging this out in your typical partisan political issue. And to boot - the same people who blindly followed Bush with Iraq are also the same ones who are now doing a 180 like they all of a sudden know war is evil.

Won't post the article, but will post the link(as it's somewhat OT from this thread)
http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2013/09/new-survey-suggests-cruz-libertarian-leaning-republicans-gaining-support/

There's one spot in that article where they admit how "economically conservative Libertarian Republicans" have emerged partly b/c of this Syria issue that came about recently. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #787 on: September 13, 2013, 01:08:35 pm »

Even the "nay" votes in Congress are controlled as well...

Pro War Senators Votes bought with 83% more defense lobby money?
http://www.prisonplanet.com/pro-war-senator-votes-bought-with-83-more-defense-lobby-money.html

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« Reply #788 on: September 13, 2013, 02:02:24 pm »

If Russia is really our #2 enemy now, then why is that Russia Today "alternative" media outlet embraced here in America, with these Alex Jones types appearing regularly on it? Roll Eyes
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« Reply #789 on: September 13, 2013, 02:30:38 pm »

"Russia Today" is cited a lot over at PPF.

They try to appear as some kind of rogue outlet that is getting the "truth" to the people. In other words, it's a propaganda rag, nothing more.
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http://news.yahoo.com/un-report-confirm-syria-chemical-weapons-164311649.html
'Overwhelming' signs of chem arms use in Syria: UN leader Ban
9/13/13

UN experts will give "overwhelming" confirmation that chemical weapons were used in Syria, UN leader Ban Ki-moon predicted Friday, as he blasted President Bashar al-Assad as a war criminal.

Ban did not say that Assad's forces carried out a suspected chemical arms attack near Damascus investigated by UN experts. But he said the Syrian leader has "committed many crimes against humanity."

A UN team is expected to send its report on the August 21 attack to Ban on Monday. The UN leader stressed that he still does not have the report.

But he predicted: "I believe the report will be an overwhelming report that the chemical weapons were used."

Ban also gave a UN estimate that 1,400 people were killed in the August 21 attack at Ghouta, east of Damascus, which led to western threats of a military strike on Assad's forces.

UN inspectors were in Syria to investigate the general use of chemical weapons in the country's 30-month-old conflict when the suspected sarin gas attack took place.

The United States, Britain and France blame Assad for the attack. The Syrian government, backed by Russia, say opposition rebels used the banned gas.

UN investigation leader Ake Sellstrom is expected to send his report to Ban on Monday. Sellstrom is not allowed to say in the report who carried out the attack.

Diplomats say however that details, such as the type of chemical and missile involved, could indicate who carried out the attack.

If the report is delivered Monday, Ban is expected to brief the UN Security Council within hours on its findings.

While US Secretary of State John Kerry and Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov are discussing a plan to put Syria's chemical arms under international control, the Security Council's permanent members are discussing a possible resolution on the crisis.

Ban has stepped up criticism of the Security Council for its failure to act over Syria. But he has never hidden his disdain for the tactics used by the Syrian leader in a civil war in which well over 100,000 people have died.

In his new outspoken attack, Ban said that Assad must face "accountability" as part of any political solution to end the conflict.

"What happened is that he has committed many crimes against humanity. Therefore, I'm sure that there will be surely the process of accountability when everything is over," he said.

Ban said last year that Assad had "lost all humanity".

His latest comments came after a UN inquiry said Wednesday that government forces had committed "widespread" killings and torture of civilians.

But Ban stressed that the top priority must be "to help the fighting stop and dialogue, talking begin."

In parallel to Ban's comments, the UN humanitarian chief raised concerns about access to areas around Damascus where hundreds of thousands of people are trapped by the fighting.

"People are unable to leave sealed-off government or opposition-held areas, sometimes for months on end, and have run short of water, food, power and medicines," said Valerie Amos.

"I am extremely worried by reports that more than 500,000 people remain trapped in rural Damascus."

Amos said there were "very disturbing reports" about Moadamiyet al-Sham, near Damascus.

"It is reported that the town has been besieged for the last 10 months, suffering daily shelling and armed clashes between government and opposition groups," the head of the UN Office for Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs said.

Amos said UN agencies have been unable to get supplies into the town for nearly a year. Most of the 70,000 people in the area have fled, but some 12,000 people remain trapped and there are cases of severe malnutrition among children, the UN said.

Amos said the UN has taken $50 million from its emergency finances to bolster the depleted fund to get supplies to people inside Syria and help the more than two million people who have fled to neighboring countries.
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« Reply #791 on: September 14, 2013, 05:43:44 am »

War Is Coming: 10 Reasons Why A Diplomatic Solution To The Syria Crisis Is Extremely Unlikely

Over the past few days, there has been a tremendous wave of optimism that it may be possible for war with Syria to be averted.  Unfortunately, it appears that a diplomatic solution to the crisis in Syria is extremely unlikely.  Assad is certainly willing to give up his chemical weapons, but he wants the U.S. to accept a bunch of concessions that it will never agree to.  And it certainly sounds like the Obama administration has already decided that “diplomacy” is going to fail, and they continue to position military assets for the upcoming conflict with Syria.  Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey are all going to continue to heavily pressure the Obama administration.  They have invested a huge amount of time and resources into the conflict in Syria, and they desperately want the U.S. military to intervene.  Fortunately, overwhelming domestic and global opposition to an attack on Syria has slowed down the march toward war for the moment, but unfortunately that probably will not be enough to stop it completely.  The following are ten reasons why war is almost certainly coming…
 
#1 Assad wants a guarantee that he will not be attacked by the United States or by anyone else before he will give up his chemical weapons.
 
That is extremely unlikely to happen.
 
#2 Assad is not going to agree to any chemical weapons deal unless the U.S. stops giving weapons to al-Qaeda terrorists and other jihadist rebels that are fighting against the Syrian government.
 
That is extremely unlikely to happen.
 
In fact, according to the Washington Post, the U.S. has been ramping up the delivery of weapons to jihadist rebels in Syria…
 

The CIA has begun delivering weapons to rebels in Syria, ending months of delay in lethal aid that had been promised by the Obama administration, according to U.S. officials and Syrian figures. The shipments began streaming into the country over the past two weeks, along with separate deliveries by the State Department of vehicles and other gear — a flow of material that marks a major escalation of the U.S. role in Syria’s civil war.
 
#3 Assad is suggesting that the Israelis should give up their weapons of mass destruction.
 
That is extremely unlikely to happen.
 
#4 The Syrian “rebels” desperately want the U.S. military to intervene in the war in Syria.  In fact, that was the entire reason for the false flag chemical weapon attack in the first place.
 
The “top rebel commander” is now declaring that the Free Syrian Army “categorically rejects the Russian initiative”, and he is calling on the United States to strike the Assad regime immediately.
 
#5 Saudi Arabia desperately wants the U.S. military to intervene in Syria.  The Saudis have spent billions of dollars to support the rebels in Syria, and they have been lobbying very hard for an attack.
 
#6 Qatar desperately wants the U.S. military to intervene in Syria.  Qatar has also spent billions of dollars to support the rebels in Syria, and it has been reported that “Arab countries” have even offered to pay for all of the costs of a U.S. military operation that would remove Assad.
 
#7 Turkey has wanted a war which would remove Assad for a very long time.  And CNN is reporting that Turkey has moved troops to the border with Syria in anticipation of an upcoming attack.
 
#8 Many members of the U.S. Congress want this war.  Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham are virtually foaming at the mouth, and Robert Menendez, the Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said that he “almost wanted to vomit” after reading Russian President Vladimir Putin’s plea for peace in the New York Times.
 
#9 Obama does not want to look weak, and he seems absolutely obsessed with starting a war with Syria.  For the moment, he has been backed into a corner diplomatically by Russia, but the Obama administration is already laying the groundwork for making it look like “diplomacy has failed”.  According to CNN, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry is already talking about the “consequences” that will happen when the Syria deal falls apart…
 

Any agreement reached must be “comprehensive,” “verifiable,” “credible” and “able to be implemented in a timely fashion,” Kerry said, adding that “there ought to be consequences if it doesn’t take place.”
 
#10 There have been reports that U.S. soldiers are now receiving orders to deploy to Syria.  For example, the following is from a recent article by Paul Joseph Watson…
 

Venture capitalist Dan Bubalo claims he was told by a source close to Ft. Hood that US troops have been ordered to deploy to Syria.
 
Writing for conservative columnist Mychal Massie’s website, Bubalo cites a “close and verifiable source” who told him that a friend at Ft. Hood had received news that he was to be sent to Egypt for the next nine months.
 
“This particular soldier said that while he was not really thrilled about the assignment to Egypt, it was better than the soldiers that remained at the military base BECAUSE THEY HAD JUST RECEIVED THEIR DEPLOYMENT ORDERS TO GO TO SYRIA,” writes Bubalo.
 
If you want to read the original report, you can find it right here.
 
For the moment, Obama and Kerry will dance around and make it look like they are considering peace.  They will try to get Congress to authorize a strike “if diplomacy fails”.
 
But they already know that diplomacy is going to fail.  Once they are ready, Obama will declare that the conditions for war set forth in the congressional authorization have been fulfilled and then he will start raining cruise missiles down on Syria.
 
When that happens, will Obama have your support?  The video posted below is one of the funniest that I have seen in a long time…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-sdO6pwVHQ&feature=player_embedded

And when Obama does strike Syria, he will officially be allying the United States with al-Qaeda and other radical jihadist groups.
 
Middle Eastern expert Jonathan Spyer has spent a lot of time on the ground among the Syrian rebels recently.  The following is what he has to say about who they are…
 

“Undoubtedly outside of Syria, and in the Syrian opposition structures, there are civilian political activists and leaders who are opposed to al-Qaida and opposed to Islamism,” Spyer explained to TheDC in an email interview. “There are also civilian activists and structures within the country which are opposed to al-Qaida and Islamism. But when one looks at the armed rebel groups, one finds an obvious vast majority there who are adherents of Islamism of one kind or another — stretching from Muslim Brotherhood-type formations all the way across to groups openly aligned with al-Qaida central and with al-Zawahiri.”
 
“The ‘moderate’ force which we are told about supposedly consists of those rebel brigades aligned with the Supreme Military Command, of Major-General Salim Edriss,” he continued. ”Most of the units aligned with the SMC actually come from a 20-unit strong bloc called the Syrian Islamic Liberation Front. This includes some powerful brigades, such as Liwa al-Islam in the Damascus area, Liwa al Farouq and Liwa al Tawhid. These and the overwhelming majority of the units aligned with the SMC are Islamist formations, who adhere to a Muslim Brotherhood-type outlook.”
 
And as NBC News recently pointed out, a high percentage of these “rebels” have come in from outside Syria…
 

Abu Abdul Rahman, a 22-year-old from Tunisia, sat in a safe house earlier this week in Antakya — a southern Turkey town that’s fast becoming a smugglers transit route. He was waiting for a smuggler to take him across the border to fight in Syria.
 
“Almighty Allah has made Jihad a duty on us. When our Muslim brethren are oppressed, it is a duty to support them wherever they are, because Muslims are not separated by countries,” he said.
 
Abdul Rahman is one of thousands of al-Qaeda volunteers who are flocking to Syria to join what they see as a battle to defend Muslims no one is bothering to help.
 
“This was a dream for me, to wage jihad for Allah’s sake, because this is one of the greatest deeds in Islam, to lift aggression off my brothers, to bleed for Allah and no other,” he said.
 
Is this really who Obama intends for us to become “allies” with?
 
Is he insane?
 
In article after article, I have documented how Obama’s Syrian rebels have been ruthlessly murdering Christians, using chemical weapons and dismembering little girls.
 
Today, I found an account from a Time Magazine reporter that chillingly describes the brutality of these fanatics…
 

I don’t know how old the victim was but he was young. He was forced to his knees. The rebels around him read out his crimes from a sheet of paper. They stood around him. The young man was on his knees on the ground, his hands tied. He seemed frozen.
 
Two rebels whispered something into his ear and the young man replied in an innocent and sad manner, but I couldn’t understand what he said because I don’t speak Arabic.
 
At the moment of execution the rebels grasped his throat. The young man put up a struggle. Three or four rebels pinned him down. The man tried to protect his throat with his hands, which were still tied together. He tried to resist but they were stronger than he was and they cut his throat. They raised his head into the air. People waved their guns and cheered. Everyone was happy that the execution had gone ahead.
 
Should the U.S. military be used to help those jihadist thugs take control of Syria?
 
If Obama gets us into this war, it has the potential to spin totally out of control very rapidly.
 
Let us hope and pray that it does not happen.  Because if we do go to war in Syria, it could ultimately lead us down the road to World War III.

http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/war-is-coming-10-reasons-why-a-diplomatic-solution-to-the-syria-crisis-is-extremely-unlikely
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« Reply #792 on: September 14, 2013, 03:50:07 pm »

War Is Coming: 10 Reasons Why A Diplomatic Solution To The Syria Crisis Is Extremely Unlikely


2 reasons in a nutshell:

1) Same script from previous wars - they won't attack right away, but will play the "diplomacy" card for awhile before they do.

2) Bible prophecy is coming to pass.
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US and Russia Reach Agreement on Plan to Rid Syria of Chemical Weapons
9/14/13
http://gma.yahoo.com/us-russia-reach-agreement-plan-rid-syria-chemical-130205001--abc-news-topstories.html

The United States and Russia announced an ambitious plan to transfer Syria's massive chemical weapons stockpile to international control by the middle of next year, at which point they would be destroyed.

Under the agreement, Syria only has one week to declare the size and location of its chemical weapons stashes. The disarmament would also be expedited, with inspectors arriving by November. Some weapons would be destroyed within Syria, while others may be transferred abroad for destruction.

Secretary of State John Kerry told reporters in Geneva the process would take place "in the soonest and safest manner."

Kerry met late into the night on Friday with his Russian counterpart, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, to hammer out the nuts and bolts of the agreement which was announced Saturday morning.

"The world will now expect the Assad regime to live up to its public commitments," Kerry told reporters at the conclusion of three days of intensive diplomacy.

"There can be no games. No room for avoidance or anything less than full compliance by the Assad regime," he said.

Such a rapid plan would be difficult under normal circumstances. It will be even harder in the midst of Syria's civil war, with concerns about the safety of monitors and technicians working to carry out the plan.


"I welcome the progress made between the United States and Russia through our talks in Geneva, which represents an important, concrete step toward the goal of moving Syria's chemical weapons under international control so that they may ultimately be destroyed," President Obama said in a statement Saturday. "This framework provides the opportunity for the elimination of Syrian chemical weapons in a transparent, expeditious, and verifiable manner, which could end the threat these weapons pose not only to the Syrian people but to the region and the world. The international community expects the Assad regime to live up to its public commitments."

Obama also added that "more work remains to be done" and that "there are consequences should the Assad regime not comply with the framework agreed today. And, if diplomacy fails, the United States remains prepared to act."

Key to the deal, both sides agreed, would be the ability to verify Syria's declaration and monitor the transfer process.

The two sides said they were able to narrow the differences on their assessment on the scope of Syria's chemical weapons program, including the quantity of toxic gases as well as their type and location.


Going into the talks, American officials believed President Bashar al-Assad's forces had around 1,000 tons of these weapons, but the Russians were believed to have significantly lower estimates.

Kerry said the United States has been keeping an eye on those weapons as Assad moved them around the country.

"We've seen them move them, we've watched this," he said, but quickly added that the relocations were "always to places of more control."

There was no immediate response from the Assad government, which said this week it was willing to surrender its chemical weapons in order to avoid an American military strike.

Kerry said he hoped inspectors would be given "unfettered" access to the chemical weapon depots, particularly because they are in areas under government control. He did, however, allow a concession to his Russian counterpart that a site or two may be in rebel-held areas.

The United States and Russia have bitterly disagreed over who was responsible for an alleged chemical weapons attack on August 21 outside Damascus.

The U.S. says over 1,400 people were killed, including hundreds of children. The American say they have evidence that government forces were to blame while the Russians point fingers at the rebels.


A UN report on the on the incident, due to be released on Monday, will reportedly suggest only government forces have the capability to carry out such a deadly attack.

The United States and Russia appear to have reached a compromise on potential consequences if the Assad government violates the agreement.


The White House insists their threat of force is the only reason Assad was willing to give up his chemical weapons. Russia, on the other hand, has been opposed. Lavrov today said a military intervention would be "catastrophic."

But diplomacy may have allowed them both to claim victory. The two sides agreed to allow a United Nations Security Council resolution, which is currently being negotiated in New York, to be filed under Chapter 7 of the UN charter, which allows for the use of force.

But any violations would be subject to an investigation and, if necessary, referred back to the Security Council to determine a punishment. Russia could then block those use of force on a case-by-case basis.


Kerry seemed to hint at the chance that, even under a Chapter 7 resolution, the use of force may not be authorized in the end.

"Use of force is clearly one of the options that may or may not be available to the Security Council," he said.

Chemical weapons disarmament is not cheap. Kerry said the United States and Russia would both commit an unspecified amount of funds and resources to this effort. He said they will ask UN members to contribute as well.

Kerry dismissed a question about his own assertion earlier this week that Assad would ever give up his chemical weapons.

"We didn't know it would be given the kind of life it has been given in the last 48 hours," he admitted Saturday.

He praised Russian President Vladimir Putin, who irked many in Congress earlier this week by penning what was seen by some as a condescending an op-ed in the New York Times, for his role in setting up the deal.

"I'm pleased that President Putin took initiative," he said. "And President Obama responded and we're here."


While this agreement will remove a dangerous weapon from the arsenal of a government that has apparently shown a willingness to use them, it will not solve the underlying conflict.

With that in mind, today Kerry and Lavrov recommitted to organizing a long-delayed international peace conference. They'll meet with the UN's Special Envoy for Syria, Lakhdar Brahimi, later this month when they are all in New York for the United Nations General Assembly.

"There is no military solution to the conflict, it has to be political," Kerry said.

Gen. Salim Idris, the commander of the Free Syrian Army rebel group, said in a news conference in Turkey that the Russian initiative was a "waste of time," The Associated Press reported.

Idris said the rebels will continue "fighting the regime and work for bringing it down," AP reported.

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So BOTH Obama AND Assad got INTERVIEWS on CBS' 60 Minutes tonight. Go figure... Roll Eyes
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So BOTH Obama AND Assad got INTERVIEWS on CBS' 60 Minutes tonight. Go figure... Roll Eyes

Abdul Rahman is one of thousands of al-Qaeda volunteers who are flocking to Syria to join what they see as a battle to defend Muslims no one is bothering to help.
 
“This was a dream for me, to wage jihad for Allah’s sake, because this is one of the greatest deeds in Islam, to lift aggression off my brothers, to bleed for Allah and no other,” he said.
 
Is this really who Obama intends for us to become “allies” with?
 
Is he insane?
 
In article after article, I have documented how Obama’s Syrian rebels have been ruthlessly murdering Christians, using chemical weapons and dismembering little girls.
 
Today, I found an account from a Time Magazine reporter that chillingly describes the brutality of these fanatics…


Obama is devil possessed to the toenails, not content with destroying the US he wants to destroy the rest of the world too. He is the mouthpiece of satan, he even looks and sounds like he is devil possessed.
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http://www.timesofisrael.com/king-abdullah-calls-for-china-role-in-syria-peace-process/

King Abdullah calls for China role in Syria, peace process

Jordan urges Beijing to aid in bringing about ‘peace, stability, civility and prosperity in our region’


By APSeptember 18, 2013, 12:16 pm

BEIJING — Jordan’s King Abdullah called on China to play an active role in resolving the conflict in Syria, saying Wednesday that Beijing should use its influence as a permanent member of the UN Security Council and as a “friend of Jordan and the Middle East.”
 
Abdullah made his appeal in his opening remarks at a meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping during a state visit to China. He also praised relations between the two countries and emphasized a common commitment to promoting progress on global issues of concern.

“It is in that spirit that I am here today to discuss with you as a key member of the United Nations Security Council and a friend of Jordan and the Middle East, ways and means of achieving peace, stability, civility and prosperity in our region through an active role in the (Israel-Palestine) peace process as well as that of the Syrian conflict,” Abdullah said.
 
Reporters were ushered from the room following Abdullah’s remarks and it wasn’t clear how Xi responded.
 
However, in his own opening remarks, the Chinese president stressed the friendship between the two countries and said he looked forward to in-depth talks on “regional and international issues of mutual interest.”
 
Beijing has called for a negotiated political settlement to the more than two-year-old conflict in Syria. It has joined Russia in blocking moves at the United Nations that could lead to the regime’s removal — leading to criticism from the US and others that the two countries were prolonging a conflict that has left 100,000 people dead and more than 2 million displaced.
 
Despite that, China has sought to play a bigger role in the Middle East as part of efforts to stand among leading nations in helping shape world events. Abdullah is just the latest in a string of Middle East leaders to visit Beijing, and China has frequently dispatched diplomats to the region to nurture ties with all parties, including Israel.
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Western strike force for Syria disperses.

Syria launches offensive near Israeli borderSyrian rebels lose heart
DEBKAfile: The Western military armada built up opposite Syria in the past two weeks is breaking up as the US president’s resolve for military action faded under relentless pressure from Moscow. Obama has thus caved in on his intention to keep the war armada in place for heat on Assad to cooperate in the elimination of his chemical weapons.

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Western strike force for Syria disperses.

Syria launches offensive near Israeli borderSyrian rebels lose heart
DEBKAfile: The Western military armada built up opposite Syria in the past two weeks is breaking up as the US president’s resolve for military action faded under relentless pressure from Moscow. Obama has thus caved in on his intention to keep the war armada in place for heat on Assad to cooperate in the elimination of his chemical weapons.

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I doubt any of this has gone away - if anything, all of the world leaders(under the guide of the Vatican) are probably working together behind the scenes to carry out this puppet show. Remember the same happened with the Cold War(as ultimately Reagan gave Gorbachev his own center in San Francisco).
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Going as scripted...

http://news.yahoo.com/syria-completes-handover-chemical-weapons-inventory-113103681.html
Syria hands over chemical arms inventory to watchdog
9/21/13

DAMASCUS (AFP) - Syria has handed over complete data on its chemical arsenal to the world's watchdog, meeting a Saturday deadline to avert military strikes, as regime aircraft pounded targets across the country.The Hague-based Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical weapons said it was probing the Syrian information that was the focus of a US-Russian deal to head off strikes on Syria.The disclosure comes as UN envoys struggled to agree on the wording of a resolution to enshrine the deal, which stipulates that Syria's chemical arsenal must be destroyed by mid-2014.The "OPCW has confirmed that it has received the expected disclosure from the Syrian government regarding its chemical weapons programme," it said on Saturday."The Technical Secretariat is currently reviewing the information received."On Friday the OPCW said it had received initial data from Syria and was expecting more.The US-Russian agreement, worked out after Washington threatened military action in response to an August 21 chemical weapons attack outside Damascus, requires Syria to hand over its entire chemical arsenal.It has received widespread international support, including from China, whose Foreign Minister Wang Yi said Beijing would "support the early launch of the process to destroy Syria's chemical weapons".Wang also called for the convening of a proposed peace conference in Geneva "as soon as possible".But the international consensus on the plan has not carried over into negotiations on the wording of a UN Security Council resolution to back it up.The Council's five permanent members -- Britain, China, France, Russia and the United States -- have been wrangling over the text of the resolution since Monday.Washington, Paris and London want a strongly worded resolution, possibly under the UN Charter's Chapter VII, which could allow the use of force or sanctions to ensure compliance.However Moscow, a key Damascus ally, opposes all references to the use of force.US Secretary of State John Kerry said he and his Russian counterpart Sergei Lavrov spoke by phone Friday about a "strong" UN Security Council resolution on the deal."We talked about the cooperation which we both agreed to continue to provide, moving not only towards the adoption of the OPCW rules and regulations, but also a resolution that is firm and strong within the United Nations," Kerry said."We will continue to work on that."The chemical weapons disarmament deal has done little to slow fighting on the ground.On Saturday, regime aircraft attacked targets nationwide, including in the provinces of Damascus, Aleppo and Hama, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights reported.The watchdog, which relies on reports from activists and medics on the ground, gave no immediate details about the air raids or casualties.But it said troops, backed by Alawite pro-regime militias, killed 15 people, including two women and a child, in the Sunni village of Sheikh Hadid in the central province of Hama late on Friday.Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is from the Alawite religious minority and faces an uprising dominated by Sunnis.The Observatory also said rival rebel groups exchanged prisoners under the terms of a deal to end fighting over the town of Azaz near the border with Turkey.The truce deal between the mainstream Free Syrian Army and the Al-Qaeda-affiliated Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIS) was brokered by a third brigade overseeing the ceasefire.Tensions have spiralled between some mainstream rebel groups and ISIS in recent months, especially in northern Syria, where the opposition controls vast swathes of territory.The Syrian opposition National Coalition, meanwhile, rejected an offer from Iranian President Hassan Rowhani for Tehran to mediate between rebels and the regime."The Iranian initiative is not serious and lacks political credibility," the key opposition grouping said in a statement, pointing to Tehran's close ties to Assad's government.French President Francois Hollande is to meet Rowhani on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly next week for talks on Syria and Iran's nuclear programme."What we want to see is an Iran fully engaged, like other players, in the search for a real political transition in Syria," an aide to Hollande said.Rowhani, a moderate on Iran's political scene, has made several diplomatic overtures since his election in June, and there has been speculation that he could also meet US President Barack Obama at the United Nations next week.
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The Syrian War What You're Not Being Told

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Russia says opposes any resolution threatening force against Syria

Russia on Sunday criticized what it said were Western attempts to use a Syrian chemical arms disarmament deal to seek a U.N. resolution threatening force against President Bashar al-Assad's government. Syria has handed over information about its chemical arsenal to a U.N.-backed weapons watchdog, meeting the first deadline of the ambitious U.S.-Russia deal that averted the threat of Western air strikes.

http://news.yahoo.com/russia-says-opposes-resolution-threatening-force-against-syria-102554128.html


Russia ready to send observers to Syria

Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov says Russia is ready to send military observers to Syria to ensure security for efforts to eliminate Syria's chemical weapons. But he says Russia is not considering sending a full military contingent. Under a U.S.-Russian plan, Syria is to give up its chemical weapons. Security is one of the plan's major challenges, including how to prevent theft of the weapons.   

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/09/22/3643149/russia-ready-to-send-observers.html
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Russia's Putin says Syria violence could hit ex-Soviet bloc

Russian President Vladimir Putin warned ex-Soviet allies on Monday that Islamist militancy fuelling the war in Syria could reach their countries, some of which have Muslim majorities.
 
Russia, which has a large Muslim minority of its own and is fighting an Islamist insurgency, has accused the West of helping militants by seeking Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's removal without paying enough attention to the potential consequences.
 
Putin told leaders of the six-nation Collective Security Treaty Organisation (CSTO) that militants fighting Assad could eventually expand attacks beyond Syria and the Middle East.
 
"The militant groups (in Syria) did not come out of nowhere, and they will not vanish into thin air," Putin said.
 
"The problem of terrorism spilling from one country to another is absolutely real and could directly affect the interests of any one of our countries," he said, citing the deadly attack on a shopping mall in Nairobi as an example.
 
"We are now witnessing a terrible tragedy unfold in Kenya. The militants came from another country, as far as we can judge, and are committing horrendous bloody crimes," Putin said at a CSTO summit in the Russian Black Sea resort city of Sochi.
 
His words appeared to be a warning about violence spreading from both Syria and Afghanistan, which shares a long border with CSTO member Tajikistan in Central Asia. The security alliance also includes Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Armenia and Belarus.
 
Tajikistan, Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan all have mostly Muslim populations.
 
Russian officials have expressed concern that Russian-born militants fighting in Syria could return to Russia's North Caucasus and join an insurgency that claims lives almost daily.
 
They have also voiced worries that violence could spread into former Soviet Central Asia and Russia after the withdrawal of most Western troops from Afghanistan by the end of next year.
 
Russia has been one of Syria's strongest backers in a conflict that has killed more than 100,000 people since it began in March 2011, delivering arms to Assad's forces and joining China in blocking Western-backed initiatives in the U.N. Security Council.
 
Russia, which has echoed Assad's contention that he is fighting al Qaeda-inspired Islamists rather than a popular revolt against his autocratic rule, has warned the West that military intervention in Syria would play into the hands of the militants.

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9/26/13
World powers reach deal on removal of Syrian chemical weapons

World powers have reached a deal to compel Syria to hand over its chemical weapons — a resolution that includes enforcement language but is not explicit on military action, diplomatic sources told NBC News on Thursday.

The United States and Russia have been at odds on how to force the handover. Those two countries negotiated the deal, and France played a large role in helping come up with compromise language, the sources said.

The deal includes a resolution with so-called Chapter 7 authority, a reference to a United Nations provision that allows member countries to take military and nonmilitary action to confront threats to peace and security.

U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Samantha Power confirmed the resolution on Twitter, saying that the measure was going to the full U.N. Security Council on Thursday night. Officials said they hope a vote could happen as early as Friday evening.

"The draft UNSCR establishes that #Syria's use of CW is threat to international peace & security & creates a new norm against the use of CW," another tweet from @AmbassadorPower said.

A senior State Department official called the agreement "a breakthrough arrived at through hard-fought diplomacy," adding it was unthinkable just two weeks ago.

"This is historic and unprecedented because it puts oversight of the Assad regime's compliance under international control and it's the first UNSCR to declare that the use of chemical weapons is a threat to peace and security " the official said. "Equally as important, it makes absolutely clear that failure of the Assad regime to comply will have consequences."

The U.S. and Russia reached agreement earlier this month on the outlines of a plan to rid Syria of chemical weapons. Syria satisfied the first part of the plan last week, when it gave the world a catalog of its weapons stockpile.

The agreement envisions the removal of chemical weapons from Syria by the middle of next year. The destruction of the weapons would be a joint mission between the U.N. Security Council and the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW).

President Barack Obama had threatened a military strike on Syria to punish its president, Bashar Assad, for using chemical weapons in an Aug. 21 attack on a rebel-held neighborhood in the Syrian civil war.

Secretary of State John Kerry met Thursday with Wang Yi, the foreign minister of China, and a senior State Department official later told reporters that China backed a “mandatory and binding U.N. Security Council resolution” enforcing the handover of the chemical weapons.

The official would not go into detail about China’s position on how such a resolution would be enforced.

French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius told reporters that the draft resolution needed refining, but he expressed he optimism about a deal.

“Things have advanced,” he said, according to The Associated Press.
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U.S., Russia agree on Syria U.N. chemical arms measure


Ending weeks of diplomatic deadlock, the United States and Russia agreed on Thursday on a U.N. Security Council draft resolution that would demand Syria give up its chemical arms, but does not threaten military force if it fails to comply.
 
Samantha Power, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, said a deal was struck with Russia "legally obligating" Syria to give up its chemical stockpile and the measure went to the full Security Council in a closed-door meeting on Thursday night. U.N. diplomats said a vote could come within 24 hours.

"Just two weeks ago, tonight's outcome seemed utterly unimaginable," Power said. "Two weeks ago, the Syrian regime had not even acknowledged the existence of its chemical weapons stockpiles."

"But tonight we have a shared draft resolution that was the outcome of intense diplomacy and negotiations over the past two weeks," she said.

U.S., Russian, French and British diplomats told reporters the vote could come as early as Friday evening, provided the Executive Council of the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons in The Hague approves a plan for the destruction of Syria's poison gas arsenal beforehand.

"I know that some (foreign) ministers are extending their stay in New York in order to participate in that vote," Russian Ambassador Vitaly Churkin told reporters.

The agreement emerged from intense negotiations at the United Nations with Russia, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's chief ally. The aim was to craft a measure to require destruction of Syria's chemical arsenal in line with a U.S.-Russian deal reached earlier this month that averted American strikes on Assad's forces in the midst of a bloody civil war.

Western powers on the Security Council backed away from many of their initial demands, diplomats say, in order to secure Russia's approval. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said an "understanding" had been hammered out, but gave no details.

A major sticking point had been Russia's opposition to writing the resolution under Chapter 7 of the U.N. charter, which covers the council's authority to enforce its decisions with measures such as sanctions or military force.

The compromise draft resolution, obtained by Reuters, makes the measure legally binding, but provides for no means of automatic enforcement as the United States, Britain and France originally wanted.

Power said the resolution was groundbreaking because the council, which has been deadlocked for years on the Syrian civil war, formally endorsed for the first time a plan for a political transition in Syria that was agreed on at an international conference in Geneva in June 2012.

'BREAKTHROUGH'

The only reference to enforcement in the draft is a threat that if Syria fails to comply with the resolution, the council would impose unspecified punitive measures under Chapter 7, which would require a second resolution that Russia could veto.

A U.S. State Department official hailed the deal as a "breakthrough."

"The Russians have agreed to support a strong, binding and enforceable resolution that unites the pressure and focus of the international community on the Syrian regime to ensure the elimination of Syria's chemical weapons," the official said.

Diplomats from the permanent Security Council members - China, Russia, the United States, France and Britain - had been haggling over the details of a resolution to back the American-Russian accord announced on September 14 in Geneva to eliminate Syria's chemical weapons.

Assad agreed to destroy Syria's chemical weapons amid an international outcry over a sarin gas strike in the suburbs of Damascus last month - the world's deadliest chemical attack in 25 years.

Washington has blamed Assad's forces for the attack, which it said killed more than 1,400 people, and President Barack Obama threatened a U.S. military strike in response.

Russia and Assad have blamed the attack on rebels battling to overthrow him in a civil war that, according to the United Nations, has left more than 100,000 people dead.

British Ambassador Mark Lyall Grant said he was pleased the draft resolution called for "accountability" for those responsible for the chemical attacks, although he added he would have liked a direct reference to the International Criminal Court in The Hague - something diplomats said Russia opposed.

TOUGH NEGOTIATIONS

In a speech to the U.N. General Assembly on Tuesday, Obama sought to persuade world leaders to apply pressure on Damascus with a resolution that included tough consequences should Assad not surrender his chemical weapons stockpiles in a verifiable way.

But by putting the Syria crisis back in the hands of the U.N. Security Council where Russia has the ability to block punitive action, the chances of U.S. military action appeared to recede even further. Obama faces tough opposition from a skeptical Congress and a war-wary public on the wisdom of intervening military in Syria.

With rebel forces plagued by divisions, the Friends of Syria - a bloc of mainly Western and Gulf Arab countries plus Turkey -followed up Thursday's announcement of the draft resolution with a pledge to boost aid to the opposition. Weapons shipments to the rebels have been inadequate to shift the military balance in their favor.

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said on Thursday that Syria "will implode before any side would claim a military victory" and that all sides needed to move rapidly to put a political solution in place to end the conflict.

A senior U.S. official said earlier that the United States and China - another permanent Security Council member - strongly agreed on the need to quickly adopt a binding resolution on eradicating Syria's chemical arsenal, a remark that appeared aimed at putting pressure on Russia to accept the measure.

Russia at first appeared unswayed.

Kerry met Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi for about an hour on the sidelines of the annual gathering of world leaders at the United Nations.

After the draft resolution was announced, the Chinese foreign minister said, "The major concerns of all the parties, including China's concerns, have basically been resolved."

China has backed Russia to veto three council resolutions since October 2011 that would have condemned Assad's government and threatened it with sanctions.

Western diplomats say Beijing has little reason to support Assad but is eager to ensure Russia will continue to back it in the Security Council on issues like North Korea.

Assad's government last week disclosed to a U.N.-backed weapons watchdog the extent of its arsenal, meeting the first deadline of the ambitious disarmament deal that calls for the weapons to be eliminated by June 2014.

Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said on Thursday that his country was ready to help guard Syrian chemical weapons sites and destroy Assad's stockpiles but would not ship any of the chemical arms to Russia for destruction.

FRAGMENTED OPPOSITION

The head of the opposition Syrian Supreme Military Council cut short a visit to France on Thursday and said he would head to Syria on Friday for talks with rebel brigades that broke with the Western-backed coalition.

General Salim Idris, who commands the coalition's military wing known as the Free Syrian Army, or FSA, said he would meet with fighters from the 13 groups that rejected on Tuesday the authority of the Turkey-based coalition.

The rebel groups, including at least three considered to be under the FSA umbrella, called on Tuesday for the rebel forces to be reorganized under an Islamic framework and to be run only by groups fighting inside Syria.

Thousands of Syrian rebels have broken with the Western-backed coalition and called for a new Islamist front, undermining international efforts to build up a pro-Western military force to replace Assad.


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« Reply #806 on: September 27, 2013, 11:13:02 am »

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And it wasn't too long ago when they were at odds, completely. Roll Eyes
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OK, I'm not asking anyone to listen to this sermon, but nonetheless I'm going to give the synopsis he put...

http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=921131935340

Recent events have focused much of the world's attention on Syria and Damascus, especially regarding the Obama Administration's plan to attack Syria militarily. Many Christians looked on these events somewhat gleefully in the misguided hope that Damascus WOULD in fact be attacked, because they have the mistaken belief that Isaiah 17:1 has never been fulfilled and therefore Damascus in Syria must yet be destroyed before Christ returns. This commentary explains how Isaiah's prophecy in chapter 17 was probably already fulfilled centuries ago, and does not need to be repeated before Christ returns; and therefore why Christians have no business cheering on or rooting for Obama and his puppetmasters in this insane pursuit of global domination.

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So my question is - is it FOR SURE if the Isaiah 17:1 prophecy was already fulfilled centuries ago? Or is it FOR SURE that it is STILL YET to be fulfilled?

Again, I'm not asking anyone to listen to this(I don't plan to either), but I just want to MAKE SURE which is the correct interpretation.

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I don't see where anybody can say that chapter 17 has or hasn't taken place, it's so general in description. I think verse 6 indicates it's not the end of the world it describes, as the verse mentions leaving some fruit in the top of the trees. That to me sounds like a remnant. Other than that, I don't see how one can say it's end times prophecy. Bad times have happened several times to Syria, and pretty much every city mentioned in the Old Testament, including Jerusalem. The fall of Babylon is described more than once in scripture, both in the OT and in Revelation. See the problem with trying to attach OT verses to the end times?

Personally, I think you have another case of a man trying to make himself out to be somebody, claiming some kind of scriptural knowledge. You know what scripture says about prophets, so we shall see.

People should spend more time reading what scripture says about salvation and not what will happen to worldly cities and trying to be prophets.
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« Reply #809 on: September 28, 2013, 12:44:32 pm »

I don't see where anybody can say that chapter 17 has or hasn't taken place, it's so general in description. I think verse 6 indicates it's not the end of the world it describes, as the verse mentions leaving some fruit in the top of the trees. That to me sounds like a remnant. Other than that, I don't see how one can say it's end times prophecy. Bad times have happened several times to Syria, and pretty much every city mentioned in the Old Testament, including Jerusalem. The fall of Babylon is described more than once in scripture, both in the OT and in Revelation. See the problem with trying to attach OT verses to the end times?

Personally, I think you have another case of a man trying to make himself out to be somebody, claiming some kind of scriptural knowledge. You know what scripture says about prophets, so we shall see.

People should spend more time reading what scripture says about salvation and not what will happen to worldly cities and trying to be prophets.

Yeah, that's what Sam Adams(the guy who preached the sermon in the post above) was trying to get at - that that particular prophecy happened a long time ago, and is not an end times prophecy, and said how Christians shouldn't be getting yoked in rooting for the Illuminati's plans to create more wars.

We saw the same with Iraq 10 years ago - Churchianity thought Bush declaring war on Iraq would fulfill some end times prophecies(ie-John Hagee badly misinterpreted a passage in Jeremiah to justify this), but en yet there was nowhere in scripture that prophecized this.

With that being said, I'm going to do a search to see what I can find about Damascus - sure, wiki may be flawed, but it nonetheless has a wealth of information.
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