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« on: October 10, 2011, 08:53:29 am »

Dream Act passes in California

http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2011/10/10/am-dream-act-passes-in-california/

10/10/11

On Sunday, Gov. Jerry Brown of California passed the state's Dream Act into law, allowing for undocumented students to receive public funding to attend college.

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« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2011, 08:45:49 am »

http://news.yahoo.com/ariz-schools-ethnic-studies-program-ruled-illegal-021635252.html

12/27/11

PHOENIX (AP) — An administrative law judge ruled Tuesday that a Tucson school district's ethnic studies program violates state law, agreeing with the findings of Arizona's public schools chief.

Judge Lewis Kowal's ruling marked a defeat for the Tucson Unified School District, which appealed the findings issued in June by Superintendent of Public Instruction John Huppenthal.

Kowal's ruling, first reported by The Arizona Daily Star, said the district's Mexican-American Studies program violated state law by having one or more classes designed primarily for one ethnic group, promoting racial resentment and advocating ethnic solidarity instead of treating students as individuals.

The judge, who found grounds to withhold 10 percent of the district's monthly state aid until it comes into compliance, said the law permits the objective instruction about the oppression of people that may result in racial resentment or ethnic solidarity.

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« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2011, 12:01:15 pm »

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Is it me or does it just seem that the Judicial branch every where has way to much power?
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« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2011, 12:59:35 pm »

It is a world of law afterall. And us being so focused on the law versus the Spirit, it may seem even more legalistic. But the judge isn't ruling out of line or anything. Normal stuff. He has that authority because it involves a state branch that's relates to schools, which are run by the state and county, at least the public ones.

Do they have too much power? In some cases I think so. Or maybe better put that there isn't enough oversight on their rullings and how the run their courtrooms.

I'm kind of shocked he ruled that way though. That's the ruling it should be, because that program they had down there is a total sham, designed especially for Latino kids only, to educate the incoming "immigrants" and relatives of residents and illegals already here.

The Latino community has a "good 'ole boy" network set up down south, and here, and they actively use it politically all the time. Just ask Joe Arpio, and the border property owners!
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« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2012, 05:50:26 pm »

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/report-obama-admin-will-circumvent-congress-with-new-illegal-immigration-rule/

1/6/12

Report: Obama Admin Will Circumvent Congress With New Illegal Immigration Rule

WASHINGTON (The Blaze/AP) — Are you ready for even more Congressional criticism of the Obama administration? The White House is crafting plans surrounding a rule change to help reduce the time illegal immigrant spouses and children are separated from citizen relatives while they try to win legal status in the United States, a senior administration official said Thursday.
 


Currently, illegal immigrants must leave the country before they can ask the government to waive a three- to 10-year ban on legally coming back to the U.S. The length of the ban depends on how long they have lived in the U.S. without permission. The L.A. Times has more:
 

…Obama is attempting unilateral steps meant to bring about what he sees as an immigration system that is fairer and less destructive to families.
 
The proposal is likely to win plaudits from a crucial constituency in the 2012 election: Latinos.
 
Obama won two-thirds of the Latino vote in 2008, and he needs this fast-growing constituency energized and excited about his reelection.

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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2012, 11:54:21 am »

Read about the ruling today - so basically the AZ law enforcement can ask about immigration status during stops, but en yet the REST of this bill was struck down by the USSC(ie-making it a state crime for illegals to find work). And while the liberals Sotomayer and Breyer upheld the main provision, the conversatives Scalia, Thomas, and Alito DIDN'T?

Does any of this MAKE SENSE? Again, they can pull people over during stops to check for immigration statuses, but these same illegals can still find work in the state? And it's the LIBERALS that FAVORED this bill? And Jan Brewer called this a "Victory" Huh

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/supreme-court-upholds-key-part-arizona-immigration-law-141927514.html

6/25/12

The Supreme Court upheld a key part of Arizona's tough anti-illegal immigration law in a 5-3 decision on Monday that allows police officers to ask about immigration status during stops. That part of the law, which never went into effect because of court challenges, will now immediately be enforced in Arizona. Other parts of the law, including a provision that made it a state crime for illegal immigrants to seek work, will remain blocked, as the justices affirmed the federal government's supremacy over immigration policy.
 
Justice Anthony Kennedy, the court's swing vote, wrote the opinion, and was joined by Chief Justice John Roberts, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stephen Breyer and Sonia Sotomayor. Conservative Justices Antonin Scalia, Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas partially dissented, saying the entire law or most of the law should have been upheld.
 
In the opinion, Justice Kennedy wrote that the federal government's "power to determine immigration policy is well settled." But he also showed concern for what he described as Arizona's outsize burden in dealing with illegal immigration, seeming to sympathize with their decision to butt in on immigration enforcement. "Arizona bears many of the consequences of unlawful im­migration," he wrote. "Hundreds of thousands of deportable aliens are apprehended in Arizona each year." But, ultimately, the justices found that Arizona cannot mete out their own state punishments for federal immigration crimes.
 
"Arizona may have under­standable frustrations with the problems caused by illegal immigration while that process continues, but the State may not pursue policies that undermine federal law," Kennedy writes in the opinion's conclusion.
 
The police immigration checks are allowed, however, because state police would simply flag federal authorities if they find an illegal immigrant. Kennedy did not rule out that these checks may be implemented in an illegal way, which means more lawsuits may be forthcoming.

Nevertheless, Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer cast the decision as a "victory" for the state. "I am confident our officers are prepared to carry out this law responsibly and lawfully. Nothing less is acceptable," she said in a statement, adding that officers have been trained not to racially profile in their stops.
 
Erika Andiola, an activist and undocumented immigrant in Arizona, said that the Latino community will not be happy with the decision, as the immigration checks portion of the law was most unpopular with them. "It's another message to the Latino community that if you look brown you're a perfect target for the police," she said.
 
The Obama administration sued to block Arizona's law, called SB1070, shortly after it passed two years ago, saying it interfered with federal authority over immigration. The law made it a state crime for illegal immigrants to seek work or fail to carry proper immigration papers. It also requires police officers to check immigration status and make warrantless arrests for immigration crimes in some cases. A federal judge prevented those aspects of the law from going into effect, but the law became a lightning rod around the country, sparking boycotts and counter-boycotts and opening up a debate about the nation's illegal immigrant population.
 
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Again, they can pull people over during stops to check for immigration statuses, but these same illegals can still find work in the state?

Yep, pretty much! Buy cars, go to school, get state medical coverage, you know all the citizen stuff.  Roll Eyes

But that issue shouldn't have been part of the bill in the first place. That's another legal argument to handle seperately I think.

Cops are not allowed to stop just to check immigration status. They never have been, nor were they going to by this bill. That's the argument the latino lobby here in the Phoenix area has been trying to claim, and it's not true. They have been trying to claim that cops are just running around and pulling over latinos, which is simply not true.

They are now allowed to check citizenship status during a detention for criminal investigation or arrest, as it should be if they are going to have territorial/citizenship rules. Otherwise, what's the point of borders?

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Erika Andiola, an activist and undocumented immigrant in Arizona, said that the Latino community will not be happy with the decision, as the immigration checks portion of the law was most unpopular with them. "It's another message to the Latino community that if you look brown you're a perfect target for the police," she said.

We get these type inflammatory comments all the time around here. Now let's see illegals like this person run her mouth at a traffic stop. And I bet they won't be having any illegals at protests at the state capital any more like they have had openly in the past.
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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2012, 09:40:50 am »

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/sean-hannity-john-boehner-gop-tackle-immigration-reform-142212570--election.html

11/9/12

Well, that was fast.

Just two days after President Barack Obama sailed to re-election over Mitt Romney, boosted by more than 70 percent of the Latino vote, some Republicans are striking a new tone on illegal immigration.

Conservative Fox News and radio host Sean Hannity said Thursday that his views on immigration have "evolved." Hannity continued:

We've gotta get rid of the immigration issue altogether. It's simple for me to fix it. I think you control the border first, you create a pathway for those people that are here, you don't say you gotta go home. And that is a position that I've evolved on. Because you know what—it just—it's gotta be resolved. The majority of people here—if some people have criminal records you can send 'em home—but if people are here, law-abiding, participating, four years, their kids are born here ... first secure the border, pathway to citizenship ... then it's done. But you can't let the problem continue. It's gotta stop
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Meanwhile, in an interview with ABC News' Diane Sawyer, House Speaker John Boehner said he is "confident" the two parties can agree to a deal on immigration.

"This issue has been around far too long," Boehner said. "A comprehensive approach is long overdue, and I'm confident that the president, myself, others can find the common ground to take care of this issue once and for all."

Just two years ago, Boehner said it was worth considering amending the U.S. Constitution to end birthright citizenship, because he said it might discourage people from illegally crossing the border
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Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, who supports immigration reform, said on CBS on Friday that Republicans had sent "mixed messages" about immigration. "On the immigration issue, which turned out to be very important, and some issues about women, too, some mixed messages were sent," she said.

The party has been searching for answers about why Mitt Romney lost what seemed like a very winnable election. Many within the party have pointed to the GOP's demographics problem: Romney lost every group except for white voters, which is a shrinking portion of the electorate. Latinos this year made up 10 percent of all voters, according to the national exit poll, a share that will only grow each election. Like other groups, Latino voters care most about jobs and the economy, but 35 percent of them listed immigration reform as their top issue in a poll conducted by Latino Decisions.

Latino voter and advocacy groups have said they expect both Obama and congressional Republicans to work together to pass immigration reform in 2013.

Eliseo Medina, secretary-treasurer of the Service Employees International Union, told reporters that Latino voters had sent a message to Obama. "We expect leadership on comprehensive immigration reform in 2013," he said. "To both sides we say: 'No more excuses.'"
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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2012, 10:00:13 am »

im quite sure the whole conservative movement will move closer to the left, as that is where the country is. The America of old is dead and gone and it will not resurface. America is not part of the end times world, and you are starting to see why.

Next they will start to support gay marriage and baby sacrifices... Come Lord Jesus come...
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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2012, 10:10:04 am »

im quite sure the whole conservative movement will move closer to the left, as that is where the country is. The America of old is dead and gone and it will not resurface. America is not part of the end times world, and you are starting to see why.

Next they will start to support gay marriage and baby sacrifices... Come Lord Jesus come...

The election coverage of "conservative" FOX News was also telling...they were the FIRST network to call the race for Tammy Baldwin, the first openly gay Senator elected.

I have no idea why especially Christians find FOX a credible news source.
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It's simple for me to fix it. I think you control the border first, you create a pathway for those people that are here, you don't say you gotta go home.

Uh, Sean, they have to go back. What they are doing is tresspassing! Every single illegal immigrant is a law breaker. Is it not US policy that criminals aren't allowed in the country, and if they violate the law, they get deported? Every law enforcement agency in this country will tresspass you and remove you if you don't have the right to be there. So why are these intruders on US soil still here?

You don't tell a burgler that it's okay for him to stay once he's in your house!  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2012, 04:06:00 pm »

http://news.yahoo.com/jindal-liking-people-key-expanding-gop-tent-195957196--election.html

Jindal: Liking people is key to expanding GOP tent

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Former Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez has a more nuts-and-bolts approach to bringing in some of the largest and fastest growing groups of Americans: He's forming a super PAC to support Republican candidates who back comprehensive immigration reform, including legalizing the status of an estimated 11 million immigrants in the U.S. without authorization.

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"We are the party of prosperity, of growth, of tolerance," Gutierrez said in remarks taped Friday for CNN's "State of the Union." ''These immigrants who come across, and what they do wrong is risk their lives, and they come here and they work because they want to be part of the American dream. That is what the GOP is."

Gutierrez said he is working with Charlie Spies, who created the largest super PAC supporting Mitt Romney, Restore Our Future, on a super PAC to back candidates that support "a path, a process for legalization of workers who are here undocumented."

"First they have to be legalized," Gutierrez said. "Then you have to find a way to get into a line for the green card. ... There will be requirements. And we'll have to negotiate some sort of requirements."
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« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2012, 04:15:45 pm »

Rev 17:16  And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the ****, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
Rev 17:17  For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
Rev 17:18  And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
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« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2012, 08:47:03 pm »

http://news.yahoo.com/house-consider-limited-gop-immigration-bill-141325651.html

House to consider limited GOP immigration bill

11/25/12

WASHINGTON (AP) — House Republicans still smarting from their poor showing among Hispanics in the presidential election are planning a vote next week on immigration legislation that would both expand visas for foreign science and technology students and make it easier for those with green cards to bring their immediate families to the U.S.

Republican leaders made it clear after the election that the party was ready to get serious about overhauling the nation's dysfunctional immigration system, a top priority for Hispanic communities. Taking up what is called the STEM Jobs Act during the lame-duck session could be seen as a first step in that direction.

The House voted on a STEM bill — standing for science, technology, engineering and mathematics — in September, but under a procedure requiring a two-thirds majority. It was defeated, with more than 80 percent of Democrats voting against it, because it offset the increase in visas for high-tech graduates by eliminating another visa program that is available for less-educated foreigners, many from Africa.

Republicans are changing the formula this time by adding a provision long sought by some immigration advocates — expanding a program that allows the spouses and minor children of people with permanent residence, or green card, to wait in the United States for their own green cards to be granted.

There are some 80,000 of these family-based green cards allocated every year, but there are currently about 322,000 husbands, wives and children waiting in this category and on average people must wait more than two years to be reunited with their families. In that past that wait could be as long as six years.

The House proposal would allow family members to come to the U.S. one year after they apply for their green cards, but they wouldn't be able to work until they actually got the card. It applies to the families of green card holders who marry after getting their residency permits.

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« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2012, 10:58:13 am »

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/bush-wades-immigration-debate-says-immigrants-invigorate-soul-155049668.html

Bush wades into immigration debate, says immigrants ‘invigorate our soul’

12/5/12




Former President George W. Bush made a rare foray into public policy on Tuesday when he urged the nation's leaders to take a "benevolent" approach to reforming the nation's immigration system.

Bush, who has maintained a low political profile since departing office four years ago, spoke briefly about immigration at the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas, a talk that was part of a daylong conference on immigration and the economy.

"America can become a lawful society and a welcoming society at the same time," Bush said, according to the Texas Tribune. "As our nation debates the proper course of action on immigration reform, I hope we do so with a benevolent spirit and keep in mind the contributions of immigrants.

"Not only do immigrants help build the economy, they invigorate our soul," Bush added.

Bush has said one of his major regrets about his presidency is that he did not manage to pass immigration reform. In 2007, he hammered out a deal that would have put millions of illegal immigrants in the country on a lengthy path to citizenship. The measure died in the Senate when Bush couldn't persuade enough members of his own party to vote to consider it.

Immigration reform is again a hot topic in Congress after President Barack Obama won more than 70 percent of the Hispanic vote in November. Some leading Republicans have said the party must address reform in order to stay competitive with the growing demographic. Last week, Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, introduced a bill that would give young illegal immigrants visas if they join the military. So far, it's faced criticism from immigrant groups, who say they won't accept reform bills that don't provide full citizenship.
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« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2012, 12:56:24 pm »

http://news.yahoo.com/opposition-immigration-reform-may-slowly-fading-050202359.html

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OPPOSITION TO IMMIGRATION REFORM MAY BE SLOWLY FADING

By Cynthia Tucker | Cynthia Tucker – 13 hrs ago.

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But since Obama won re-election with a hefty assist from Latino voters, several GOP leaders have noted that the party's hostility to immigration reform is a burden. And their constituents may be ready to abandon that stance, too.
 
A November exit poll showed that 65 percent of voters favor giving illegal immigrants a shot at legal status; while 79 percent of Democrats support the idea, 51 percent of Republicans do as well.
 
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http://redflagnews.com/headlines/friday-afternoon-news-dump-obama-quietly-grants-amnesty-to-more-than-100k-illegal-immigrants

Obama Quietly Grants Amnesty To More Than 100K Illegal Immigrants…
December 14, 2012

The administration has issued stays of deportation for 102,965 illegal immigrants under President Obama’s new non-deportation policy, officials announced Friday.

Another 157,151 applications are still under review under the policy, officially known as Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, which grants a tentative legal status to illegal immigrants who qualify — though it does not grant them a path to citizenship.

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http://news.yahoo.com/why-evangelicals-partners-immigration-reform-164718061--politics.html

Why Evangelicals are the new partners for immigration reform

Advocates for immigration reform should seek support from an unlikely source – evangelical Christians. Their political agenda is broadening as Hispanic congregants – documented and undocumented – increase and pastors speak of immigration as a religious concern
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Most Congress-watchers have low expectations for America's legislative branch over the next two years, and with good reason. The 2012 election again showed a divided electorate, and political stalemate and partisan rancor abound in Washington.
 
Despite this difficult climate, political support is rapidly building in favor of legislation that has confounded presidents and Congresses since 1986: comprehensive immigration reform. Advocates trying to build a winning coalition for reform should seek support from an unlikely source – evangelical Christians.
 
Evangelicals have been a key Republican voting bloc for several decades. According to exit polls, about 1 in 4 voters in November's election was a white Evangelical, and they voted overwhelmingly Republican.
 
Although most Americans associate theologically conservative Christians with cultural issues such as abortion and gay marriage, the evangelical political agenda is broadening. Immigration reform is one issue that has steadily gained momentum.
 
What might account for this change?
 
For one, pastors and religious leaders are talking more about the issue as a religious concern. Many scriptural passages relate to immigration – including the famous 40-year wilderness journey of the children of Israel to the Promised Land. But most evangelical churches and organizations have only recently begun to underscore the biblical connection to immigration.
 
New pro-immigrant movements are seeking to educate and activate evangelical clergy and voters by emphasizing themes of love, justice, and welcome for the stranger that resound throughout the Hebrew Bible and New Testament.
 
Another factor that explains increasing awareness of immigrant issues is simple math.
 
Much like the nation, evangelicalism is becoming more ethnically diverse. According to the Pew Hispanic Center, 13 percent of Hispanic Americans describe themselves as evangelical Protestants. Immigrant churches are growing rapidly, and many denominations have created new structures and leadership posts designed to serve Hispanic congregants. Immigration – including illegal immigration – touches the lives of many in the pews, and church leaders want to help.
 
Also, greater numbers of Evangelicals are worshiping alongside documented and undocumented immigrants, getting to know them and listening to their stories.
 
Perhaps the strongest sign of Evangelicals' advocacy is the emergence of new organizations and coalitions focusing on the issue.
 
In October 2011, Cedarville University, a conservative Christian college in Ohio, hosted the "G92" immigration conference. Taking its name from the Hebrew word for immigrant, ger, which appears 92 times in the Hebrew Bible, the conference has spawned a new movement designed to mobilize Christian college students to advocate on behalf of all immigrants. Leaders are planning half a dozen events across the country in 2013.
 
The Evangelical Immigration Table, founded in June 2012 by nine heads of evangelical organizations, is networking with evangelical leaders from across the spectrum to support immigration reform. Founders include the president of the National Association of Evangelicals, a large umbrella group representing many denominations and associations; Richard Land, an outspoken conservative and Southern Baptist leader; and Jim Wallis, bestselling author and leader of the left-leaning social justice organization Sojourners.

**FYI, Richard Land is a CFR member!
 
In June 2012, the Table released a wide-reaching, seven-point plan for immigration reform that included a call for secure borders, protection of family unity, and a path toward legal status or citizenship. It also left out many of the thorniest details, such as what steps a pathway to legal status would include and who would be eligible.
 
Even so, as religion writer Lisa Miller said in The Washington Post, the plan is "a document of exceptional accord among groups that rarely find themselves on the same side of anything."
 
The week after the presidential election, the Table sent letters to President Obama and congressional leaders asking for a meeting within the first 92 days of the president's new term to move forward reform legislation. Change is clearly afoot.
 
Of course, evangelical voters are not monolithic, and their views on illegal immigration vary widely. Data from a 2010 Pew Research Center study suggest that grass-roots Evangelicals are divided, but a majority (54 percent) now favor policies that include some sort of pathway to citizenship.
 
This majority is likely to grow. Researcher Ruth Melkonian-Hoover's analysis of polling data suggests that white Evangelicals who worship alongside immigrants (she did not distinguish between legal and illegal) are less likely to view immigrants as a threat. When pastors preach positive messages about immigrants, congregants' opinions shift, and support for a path to legalization rises sharply.
 
Since the November election – heavily influenced by Hispanic voters – legislators have more political space to advocate for immigration reform. Some Republicans are joining the effort out of desire to reach Hispanics. Others who previously felt strong political pressure to avoid the issue now feel more freedom to advocate for reform.
 
Evangelical elites from across the ideological spectrum are beginning to come together to advocate for immigration reform. Millions of Americans in the pews may soon follow their lead, and, if so, wise legislators will pay attention.
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http://news.yahoo.com/carlos-gutierrez-gop-needs-immigration-reform-survive-173000651--politics.html

1/10/13

Carlos Gutierrez: GOP Needs Immigration Reform to Survive

Carlos Gutierrez, who served as Commerce secretary in President George W. Bush’s second term, was one of that administration’s leading proponents of immigration reform. Born in Cuba, he was a top adviser to Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney on Hispanic outreach. Before his tenure at Commerce, Gutierrez was chairman of the board and chief executive officer at Kellogg. Edited excerpts of his interview with National Journal follow.
 
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« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2013, 04:15:24 pm »

http://news.yahoo.com/54-000-mexicans-sign-petition-us-gun-control-203836993.html

54,000 Mexicans sign petition for US gun control
Associated Press – 1 hr 33 mins ago

MEXICO CITY (AP) — More than 54,000 Mexicans have signed a petition calling on the United States to take further steps to combat weapons trafficking.
 
Mexico says the majority of guns used by the country's violent drug cartels are smuggled over the border from the United States.
 
Mexico's best-known anti-violence activist and a prominent intellectual presented the petition at the U.S. embassy Monday.
 
Activist Javier Sicilia said "The United States is partly responsible for our humanitarian tragedy."
 
About 70,000 people have died in Mexico in drug violence since 2006, according to the written copy of a speech presented by Mexico's interior secretary in December.
 
Before the activists presented their petition, President Barack Obama said Monday he would present a new U.S. gun control plan within days.
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« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2013, 05:24:34 pm »

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/aboard-paul-ryan-supports-marco-rubio-immigration-reform-222004852--election.html

All aboard? Paul Ryan supports Marco Rubio’s immigration reform outline

1/14/13

Former vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan says he supports "the principles" of an immigration reform proposal from Republican Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, a sign that the party may be coalescing around its own plan to overhaul the nation's laws.
 
"Senator Rubio is exactly right on the need to fix our broken immigration system," the congressman wrote on his Facebook page on Monday, with a link to a Wall Street Journal article that includes Rubio's key immigration goals. "I support the principles he’s outlined: modernization of our immigration laws; stronger security to curb illegal immigration; and respect for the rule of law in addressing the complex challenge of the undocumented population. Our future depends on an immigration system that works."
 
Republicans and Democrats are both in the early stages of building coalitions for support for what could be a major immigration bill later this year.
 
Rubio and Ryan, considered among Republicans to be possible future presidential candidates, appeared together at a dinner in Washington, D.C., in December, where they both outlined their visions for the party's future.
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« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2013, 05:49:39 pm »

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Evangelical coalition seeks immigration overhaul

1/14/13

NEW YORK (AP) — Prominent evangelical leaders announced a new effort Monday to persuade conservative Christians and lawmakers they should support overhauling U.S. immigration laws.
 
Called "I Was A Stranger," the campaign asks churches to spend 40 days studying Scripture related to immigration, centered on the Matthew 25 exhortation to clothe and feed the stranger. Organizers hope to create a groundswell of support for changes that balance national security with keeping immigrant families together.
 
The coalition includes the National Association of Evangelicals, which represents about 40 denominations; the public policy arm of the 16 million-member Southern Baptist Convention; Esperanza, the Latino evangelical economic development group; pastor Bill Hybels of the influential Willow Creek Community Church in Illinois; and writer Max Lucado. Sojourners, the liberal-leaning evangelical advocacy group, is also participating.
 
"In the Anglo churches, there are so many more Hispanic people that we know and love," said the Rev. Joel Hunter, senior pastor of Northland church, which serves about 15,000 congregants in the Orlando, Fla., area. "There's a readiness, even in the Anglo churches, to address this."
 
Many evangelical leaders have actively supported reform in recent years as the number of immigrants has increased in their churches. However, rank-and-file congregants have been slower to take up the issue beyond demands for stronger national borders. In surveys, white evangelicals have generally ranked border security as their top priority. However, about four in ten have told pollsters they would favor an approach giving equal weight to national security and a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants.
 
The evangelical push on the issue comes amid renewed interest in immigration reform from Congress and the White House. In the immediate aftermath of the November election, congressional Republicans suggested the time was right for reform talks. President Barack Obama, who won a record share of Hispanic voters, renewed his pledge to prioritize immigration reform.
 
Evangelical leaders said they are not backing any specific proposal right now.
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« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2013, 03:25:24 pm »

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1/15/13

White House: Rubio immigration moves may ‘bode well’ for action

The White House praised Republican Sen. Marco Rubio’s proposals for an overhaul of immigration policy and said they “bode well” for bipartisan action early in President Barack Obama’s second term.
 
Obama “expects to move very quickly on immigration after the inauguration,” press secretary Jay Carney told reporters. The president is expected to lay out some principles on the issue in his Feb. 12 State of the Union speech.
 
“The reports about Sen. Rubio’s ideas bode well for a productive bipartisan debate,” Carney said. “We hope that it signals a change in the Republican approach to this issue, because if we are going to get this done it’s going to take more than just a handful of Republicans working across the aisle.”
 
The press secretary had been asked about proposals from Rubio—whose name sits near the top of the 2016 field of Republican presidential contenders—to undertake sweeping changes in the way America handles immigration. According to the Wall Street Journal, Rubio backs tightening border controls but making it easier for high-skilled workers and seasonal farm workers to enter the country, and favors giving the estimated 12 million undocumented immigrants in the U.S. a path to getting a work permit and, eventually, citizenship.

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« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2013, 10:02:27 am »

While gun control continues to appear to be gridlocked(despite all the recent events), seems like immigration reform is on the contrary(slowly making headways even among the GOP)...

http://news.yahoo.com/white-house-senators-launching-immigration-push-222950612--politics.html

White House, senators launching immigration push

1/26/13

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama will launch a campaign next week aimed at overhauling the nation's flawed immigration system and creating legal status for millions, as a bipartisan Senate group nears agreement on achieving the same goals.

The proposals from Obama and lawmakers will mark the start of what is expected to be a contentious and emotional process with deep political implications. Latino voters overwhelmingly backed Obama in the 2012 election, leaving Republicans grappling for a way to regain their standing with an increasingly powerful pool of voters.

The president will press his case for immigration changes during a trip to Las Vegas Tuesday. The Senate working group is also aiming to outline its proposals next week, according to a Senate aide.

Administration officials say Obama's second-term immigration push will be a continuation of the principles he outlined during his first four years in office but failed to act on. He is expected to revive his little-noticed 2011 immigration "blueprint," which calls for a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants that includes paying fines and back taxes; increased border security; mandatory penalties for businesses that employ unauthorized immigrants; and improvements to the legal immigration system, including giving green cards to high-skilled workers and lifting caps on legal immigration for the immediate family members of U.S. citizens.

"What has been absent in the time since he put those principles forward has been a willingness by Republicans, generally speaking, to move forward with comprehensive immigration reform," White House press secretary Jay Carney said. "What he hopes is that that dynamic has changed."
The political dynamic does appear to have shifted following the November election. Despite making little progress on immigration in his first term, Obama won more than 70 percent of the Latino vote, in part because of the conservative positions on immigration that Republican nominee Mitt Romney staked out during the GOP primary. Latino voters accounted for 10 percent of the electorate in November.

The president met privately Friday morning with the Congressional Hispanic Caucus to discuss his next steps on immigration. Among those in the meeting was Rep. Linda Sanchez, D-Calif., who said Obama told lawmakers "immigration reform is his number one legislative priority."
That could bump back the president's efforts to seek legislation enacting stricter gun laws, another issue he has vowed to make a top second term priority.

The Senate immigration group is also pressing for quick action, aiming to draft a bill by March and pass legislation in their chamber by August, said the aide, who requested anonymity in order to discuss private deliberations. The Republican-controlled House would also need to pass the legislation before it went to the White House for the president's signature.

Senate lawmakers working on the immigration effort include Democrats Charles Schumer of New York, Dick Durbin of Illinois and Robert Menendez of New Jersey; and Republicans John McCain of Arizona, Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Marco Rubio of Florida, according to Senate aides. Democrat Michael Bennet of Colorado, and Republicans Jeff Flake of Arizona and Mike Lee of Utah have also been involved. It's not clear whether all those involved will sign on to the principles the group hopes to roll out next week.

Those principles are expected to include a process toward legalizing the status of unauthorized immigrants already in the country; border security; verification measures for employers hiring workers and ways for more temporary workers to be admitted into the country.

It's unclear whether the group will back the pathway to full citizenship that the president is seeking. Schumer and Graham have previously supported requiring illegal immigrants to admit they broke the law, perform community service, pay fines and back taxes, pass background checks and learn English before going to the back of the line of immigrants already in the system in order to legalize their immigration status.

Several of the senators negotiating the immigration principles are veterans of the failed comprehensive immigration reform effort under then-President George W. Bush. That process collapsed in 2007 when it came up well-short of the needed votes in the Senate, a bitter outcome for Bush and the late Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, the Democrats' leader on the legislation.

Some Republicans still lament that result as a missed opportunity for the party that could have set the GOP on a different path to reach more Latino voters.

Rubio is a relative newcomer to Senate negotiations on the issue, but he's seen as a rising star in his party and a potential 2016 presidential candidate. As a charismatic young Hispanic leader his proposals on immigration have attracted wide notice in recent weeks. And as a conservative favorite, unlike McCain or Graham, his stamp of approval could be critical to drawing in other conservative lawmakers.

A Republican aide said that Rubio has made clear in his interactions with the Senate group that he couldn't sign on to proposals that deviated from the principles he himself has been laying out in recent media interviews, including border security first, a guest-worker program, more visas for high-tech workers and enforcement in the workplace.

As for the illegal immigrants already in the country, Rubio would have them pay a fine and back taxes, show they have not committed crimes, prove they've been in the country for some time and speak some English and apply for permanent residency. Ultimately citizenship too could be in reach but only after a process that doesn't nudge aside immigrants already in line, and Rubio hasn't provided details on how long it all might take.
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« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2013, 01:50:48 am »

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It's unclear whether the group will back the pathway to full citizenship that the president is seeking. Schumer and Graham have previously supported requiring illegal immigrants to admit they broke the law, perform community service, pay fines and back taxes, pass background checks and learn English before going to the back of the line of immigrants already in the system in order to legalize their immigration status.

And THAT is what Obama really wants, to flood the US with a bunch of newly legal residents that would be "forever grateful" for his giving them citizenship. Personally, I see nothing wrong with the Schumer/Graham plan. I'm not sure about "back taxes" as I don't see how they could do that. Sure, admit they broke US law by coming here illegally, pay a fine for that crime, obviously a criminal check, and yes, they got to learn at least basic English instead of depending on translators as it is now. There is even a law on the books that medical facilities are suppose to provide a translator, which that needs to change. They need to bring their own translator till they can speak English.

I also think there should be a delay in them getting any government benefits because as it is, the illegal immigrant community is over-running the health care system and hardly any of them pay their bills. Maybe even require they pay into a fund that pays back money for all that free assistance they got as illegals that they weren't entitled to.
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« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2013, 01:51:12 pm »

http://news.yahoo.com/senate-immigration-proposal-pathway-citizenship-152655874--abc-news-politics.html

Senate Immigration Proposal to Include Pathway to Citizenship

1/27/13

Two senators at the center of negotiations over comprehensive immigration reform, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Sen. Bob Menendez (D-N.J.) said on Sunday that a pathway to citizenship is an essential component of a comprehensive reform bill.

"That has to be also part of it," McCain told ABC News' Martha Raddatz on "This Week" when asked whether a pathway to citizenship would be a component of reform. "There's a new appreciation on both sides of the aisle including, maybe more importantly on the Republican side of the aisle, that we have to enact comprehensive immigration reform."

McCain said that a small group of Senators will release the principles of a comprehensive, not "piecemeal," reform bill this week.
"I'm very pleased with the progress," McCain said. "It's not that much different from what we tried to do in 2007."

Menendez, who met with President Obama on Friday along with other members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus leadership, said that the president expressed his full commitment to reform.

"The president made it very clear in that discussion that this was a top legislative priority for him in this session of the Congress and that he expects to work with all of us in an effort to achieve that goal and he's fully committed to it."

He added that a pathway to "earned legalization" is an "essential element" of an immigration reform bill.

"First, Americans support it in poll after poll. Secondly, Latino voters expect it. Thirdly Democrats want it. And fourth Republicans need it," Menendez said.

McCain added that he believes Obama's use of the presidential podium on behalf of immigration reform at an event in Las Vegas planned for Tuesday will aid efforts to pass a bill.

"I think it helps," McCain said. "I think its important that we all work together on this."

"Believe it or not, I see a glimmer of bipartisanship out there," he added.
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« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2013, 08:39:37 pm »

Illinois becomes fourth state to allow driver's licenses for undocumented

http://news.yahoo.com/illinois-becomes-fourth-state-allow-drivers-licenses-undocumented-011755726.html

1/27/13

Reuters) - Illinois Governor Pat Quinn on Sunday signed a law allowing undocumented immigrants to apply for driver's licenses, in a move he said would improve road safety.

Undocumented immigrants can also obtain driver's licenses in New Mexico and Washington state, while Utah allows driving permits.

"Despite the stalemate on immigration reform in Washington D.C., Illinois is moving forward," Quinn said in a statement. "This common sense law will help everybody, regardless of their background, learn the rules of the road, pass a driving test and get insurance."

In Washington, Democratic and Republican senators are preparing a bipartisan plan to overhaul U.S. immigration laws. On Sunday, Republican Senator John McCain of Arizona said on ABC's "This Week" program that such a plan could be introduced as early as this week.

Illinois' law will require undocumented immigrant drivers to take a driving test and carry car insurance in a state where an estimated 250,000 illegal immigrants are believed to be driving, supporters of the law said.

Unlicensed, uninsured drivers are believed to be involved in about 80,000 accidents in Illinois each year, resulting in $660 million in damage, according to the Illinois Highway Safety Coalition.

The driver's license legislation met strong opposition from state Republicans when it was first introduced in Illinois. But their position softened since President Barack Obama won re-election with large support from Hispanic voters and Illinois Democrats made big gains in the state legislature.
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« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2013, 02:59:19 am »

These people are here ILLEGALLY ( as in they are intruders, trespassers, lawbreakers), yet these politicians want to give them what citizens have earned? This is just insane. The only explanation for this is these certain politicians don't care one bit about the law. It's all about what THEY want according to their personal political agenda.

This is one of the craziest things in our country right now. Our law says a person must enter the country a certain way, yet the government keeps looking the other way as if no law has been broken, and it seems all for the sake of votes and the demands of the UN that countries don't discriminate.

And what really tells me the federal government is the problem, is local sheriffs like Joe Arpaio keep arresting illegals, and federal I.C.E. keeps turning them lose, or they outright refuse to come get them and deport them.

When the federal government isn't doing what the law says, and refuses to listen to the states or it's citizens, you have tyranny, and by declaration, that means citizens have the right and duty to put off the current, and form a new government, which simply means clean house of the tyrants and criminals.

I hate to say it, and never really thought that I would, but America has been taken over, and basically invaded by the enemy. The only thing missing in this invasion is the gunfire. Which the only real way to take over a country without firing a shot is to get the population to allow it via their treasonous government.

I don't know how all this will play out in the grand scheme, but unless Americans actually stand up and try to take their country back, this country is done for.
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« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2013, 08:18:26 am »

Wow...that was somewhat quick... Roll Eyes

http://news.yahoo.com/senators-reach-agreement-immigration-reform-085239296--politics.html

Senators reach agreement on immigration reform
By ERICA WERNER | Associated Press – 35 mins ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — A bipartisan group of leading senators has reached agreement on the principles for a sweeping overhaul of the nation's immigration laws, including a path to citizenship for the 11 million illegal immigrants already in this country.

The deal, to be announced at a news conference Monday, also covers border security, non-citizen or "guest" workers and employer verification of immigration status.

Although t**** details remain to be negotiated and success is far from certain — the legislation could run into trouble in the Republican-controlled House — the development heralds the start of what could be the most significant effort in years toward overhauling the nation's inefficient patchwork of immigration laws.

President Barack Obama also is committed to enacting comprehensive immigration legislation and will travel to Nevada on Tuesday to lay out his vision, which is expected to overlap in important ways with the Senate effort.

The eight senators expected to endorse the new principles Monday are Democrats Charles Schumer of New York, **** Durbin of Illinois, Robert Menendez of New Jersey and Michael Bennet of Colorado; and Republicans John McCain of Arizona, Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, Marco Rubio of Florida and Jeff Flake of Arizona.

Several of these lawmakers have worked for years on the issue. McCain collaborated with the late Democratic Sen. Edward M. Kennedy on comprehensive immigration legislation pushed by then-President George W. Bush in 2007, only to see it collapse in the Senate when it couldn't get enough GOP support.

Now, with some Republicans chastened by the November elections which demonstrated the importance of Latino voters and their increasing commitment to Democrats, some in the GOP say this time will be different.

"What's changed, honestly, is that there is a new, I think, appreciation on both sides of the aisle — including maybe more importantly on the Republican side of the aisle — that we have to enact a comprehensive immigration reform bill," McCain said Sunday on ABC's "This Week."
"I think the time is right," McCain said.

The group claims a notable newcomer in Rubio, a potential 2016 presidential candidate whose conservative bona fides may help smooth the way for support among conservatives wary of anything that smacks of amnesty. In an opinion piece published Sunday in the Las Vegas Review-Journal, Rubio wrote that the existing system amounts to "de facto amnesty," and he called for "commonsense reform."

According to documents obtained by The Associated Press, the senators will call for accomplishing four goals:

—Creating a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants already here, contingent upon securing the border and better tracking of people here on visas.

—Reforming the legal immigration system, including awarding green cards to immigrants who obtain advanced degrees in science, math, technology or engineering from an American university.

—Creating an effective employment verification system to ensure that employers do not hire illegal immigrants.

—Allowing more low-skill workers into the country and allowing employers to hire immigrants if they can demonstrate they couldn't recruit a U.S. citizen; and establishing an agricultural worker program.

The principles being released Monday are outlined on just over four pages, leaving plenty of details left to fill in. What the senators do call for is similar to Obama's goals and some past efforts by Democrats and Republicans, since there's wide agreement in identifying problems with the current immigration system. The most difficult disagreement is likely to arise over how to accomplish the path to citizenship.

In order to satisfy the concerns of Rubio and other Republicans, the senators are calling for the completion of steps on border security and oversight of those here on visas before taking major steps forward on the path to citizenship.

Even then, those here illegally would have to qualify for a "probationary legal status" that would allow them to live and work here — but not qualify for federal benefits — before being able to apply for permanent residency. Once they are allowed to apply they would do so behind everyone else already in line for a green card within the current immigration system.

That could be a highly cumbersome process, but how to make it more workable is being left to future negotiations. The senators envision a more streamlined process toward citizenship for immigrants brought here as children by their parents, and for agricultural workers.

The American Civil Liberties Union said in a statement that the framework agreed on by the senators could provide important protections for illegal immigrants who are exploited by employers and live in "constant fear" over their immigration status.

But the ACLU took issue with the proposal to require employers to use an electronic employment-verification system, calling it "a thinly disguised national ID requirement" that would undermine employees' privacy and lead to discrimination against those "who look or sound 'foreign.'"

Such legislation could also face long odds in the House, which is dominated by conservative Republicans and which has shown little interest in immigration reform.

The debate will play out at the start of Obama's second term, as he aims to spend the political capital afforded him by his re-election victory on an issue that has eluded past presidents and stymied him during his first term despite his promises to the Latino community to act.

"As the president has made clear for some time, immigration reform is an important priority and he is pleased that progress is being made with bipartisan support," a White House spokesman, Clark Stevens, said in a statement. "At the same time, he will not be satisfied until there is meaningful reform and he will continue to urge Congress to act until that is achieved."

For Republicans, the November elections were a stark schooling on the importance of Latino voters, who voted for Obama over Republican Mitt Romney 71 percent to 27 percent, helping ensure Obama's victory. That led some Republican leaders to conclude that supporting immigration reform with a path to citizenship has become a political imperative.
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« Reply #29 on: January 28, 2013, 10:16:01 pm »

These people are here ILLEGALLY ( as in they are intruders, trespassers, lawbreakers), yet these politicians want to give them what citizens have earned? This is just insane. The only explanation for this is these certain politicians don't care one bit about the law. It's all about what THEY want according to their personal political agenda.

This is one of the craziest things in our country right now. Our law says a person must enter the country a certain way, yet the government keeps looking the other way as if no law has been broken, and it seems all for the sake of votes and the demands of the UN that countries don't discriminate.

And what really tells me the federal government is the problem, is local sheriffs like Joe Arpaio keep arresting illegals, and federal I.C.E. keeps turning them lose, or they outright refuse to come get them and deport them.

When the federal government isn't doing what the law says, and refuses to listen to the states or it's citizens, you have tyranny, and by declaration, that means citizens have the right and duty to put off the current, and form a new government, which simply means clean house of the tyrants and criminals.

I hate to say it, and never really thought that I would, but America has been taken over, and basically invaded by the enemy. The only thing missing in this invasion is the gunfire. Which the only real way to take over a country without firing a shot is to get the population to allow it via their treasonous government.

I don't know how all this will play out in the grand scheme, but unless Americans actually stand up and try to take their country back, this country is done for.

Ultimately, Churchianity has promoted this agenda the most. The Southern Baptist Convention and Emergent Church leaders, in particular, have been pushing for immigration reform recently. Both SBC leader Richard Land and EC leader Bill Hybels went to Capitol Hill recently to lobby for just that. And to boot, there's CFR member Rick Warren that has pushed Catholicism to his 1000s of Purpose Driven member churches - no surprise here b/c Catholicism is the predominant "christian" denomination in Mexico, and the CFR has been pushing for a North American Union for quite some time now(which Land also is a member of). And of course Pope John Paul II endorsed immigration reform in the 90's.

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