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« on: October 14, 2013, 09:11:09 am »

OK, I know this is yet another "on-going" thing, and they may very well put out a "solution" when all is said and done - but nonetheless, pretty much expect a lot of these "last minute crisis" as the last days seem to be approaching - this is probably what will happen prior to the AC making his appearance...lots of confusion and chaos among the governments in this world(over many agendas), that some "peacemaker" will step in to give the appearance he has this "solution".

Default looming, Day 14 of shutdown, no solution
http://news.yahoo.com/default-looming-day-14-shutdown-no-solution-074513636--finance.html
10/14/13

WASHINGTON (AP) — The United States moved perilously closer to an economy-rattling default and a partial government shutdown entered its 14th day as Senate Democratic and Republican leaders remained at odds over spending in their last-ditch negotiations to end the crises facing the nation.

Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., spoke by phone Sunday but failed to agree on a deal to raise the nation's borrowing authority above the $16.7 trillion debt limit or reopen the government. Congress is racing the clock with Treasury Secretary Jack Lew warning that the U.S. will quickly exhaust its ability to pay the bills on Thursday.

But there was no certainty that the growing anxiety among financial leaders around the world would provide the necessary jolt to Senate leaders, who represent the last, best chance for a resolution after talks between President Barack Obama and House Republican leaders collapsed.

Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., said Monday that investors are growing increasingly "skittish" about the possibility of default. The bond markets were closed for Columbus Day, but Wall Street was open and U.S. stock futures were down sharply. Trading in Asia was muted, with markets in Tokyo and Hong Kong closed for holidays.

The shutdown has furloughed 350,000 federal workers, impeded various government services, put continued operations of the federal courts in doubt and stopped the IRS from processing tax refunds. Some parks and monuments remain closed, drawing a protest at the National World War II Memorial on Sunday that included tea party-backed lawmakers who had unsuccessfully demanded defunding of Obama's 3-year-old health care law in exchange for keeping the government open.

Economists see greater financial danger from an historical default. Christine Lagarde, the International Monetary Fund's managing director, spoke fearfully about the disruption and uncertainty, warning on Sunday of a "risk of tipping, yet again, into recession" after the fitful recovery from 2008.

Reid and McConnell — five-term senators hardened by budget disputes and years of negotiations — are at an impasse over the automatic, across-the-board spending cuts known as sequestration and whether to undo or change them as part of a budget deal. Republicans want to keep the spending at the deficit-cutting level of the 2011 budget law while Democrats are pressing for a higher amount.

"I'm optimistic about the prospects for a positive conclusion to the issues before this country today," Reid said as the Senate wrapped up a rare Sunday session.

McConnell insisted a solution was readily available as he embraced the proposal from a bipartisan group of 12 senators, led by Sens. Susan Collins, R-Maine, and Manchin, that would re-open the government and fund it at current levels for six months while raising the debt limit through Jan. 31.

It also would give agencies greater flexibility in dealing with the automatic budget cuts, delay the medical device tax for two years and establish income verification for individuals receiving subsidies to buy health insurance.

"It's time for Democrat leaders to take 'yes' for an answer," McConnell said in a statement.

"This haven't put us on suicide watch yet," Manchin joked Monday morning, "but they're concerned about us."

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Boehner Puts Off Vote as House Balks

On the brink of a historic default, House Republicans on Tuesday put off a vote on their latest proposal to reopen the government and raise the debt limit, as a major credit agency warned that the United States was on the verge of a costly ratings downgrade.

 Hard-line conservatives and more pragmatic Republicans were nearing open revolt Tuesday evening, after House Republican leadership rushed out a new bill in the afternoon, forcing a postponement of any vote on the measure. With the latest delay, chances increased that a resolution would not be reached before the Treasury exhausted its borrowing authority on Thursday.

After failing in repeated efforts to bring their troops behind any bill that would end the budget dispute, the House Republican leadership offered a bill Tuesday afternoon that would reopen the government through Dec. 15, extend the government’s borrowing authority until Feb. 7 and eliminate government contributions to lawmakers, White House officials and their staffs for their purchases of health insurance on the new insurance exchanges.

Under the new plan, the Treasury Department would be forbidden to use “extraordinary measures” — juggling government accounts — to extend its borrowing capabilities.

The continuing efforts by the House to reach agreement on a proposal put a halt to talks in the Senate after negotiators had appeared to be closing in on a deal. Stock markets dipped as meetings continued on Capitol Hill and at the White House. But for the moment, the attention had returned to the House and whether Speaker John A. Boehner could come up with a proposal that would attract enough support.

“The focus today is on the House of Representatives and whether they can cobble something together that gets 218 votes,” said Senator Bob Corker, Republican of Tennessee.

Fitch, a global credit rating agency, warned that Congressional intransigence had put the full faith and credit of the government at risk. The firm has put the United States on a “negative ratings watch,” but it reaffirmed the country’s sterling AAA credit rating.

The news came as the Treasury Department said it had only about $35 billion in cash on hand. It expects to run out of “extraordinary measures” to keep paying all of the government’s bills on Thursday.

Fitch warned that Congress had not “raised the federal debt ceiling in a timely manner.” It said that it “continues to believe that the debt ceiling will be raised soon,” but that “political brinkmanship and reduced financing flexibility could increase the risk of a U.S. default.”

The firm did not say whether it would consider downgrading the country’s rating even if Congress struck a last-minute deal, as Standard & Poor’s did in 2011.

Brandi Hoffine, a Treasury Department spokeswoman, said the announcement by Fitch’s “reflects the urgency with which Congress should act to remove the threat of default hanging over the economy.”

The day began with a setback for Mr. Boehner, who emerged from a two-hour meeting of his fractious caucus to say that the leadership had failed to produce a path forward, soon after it released the framework of a plan to end the shutdown and raise the debt ceiling.

“It’s very, very serious,” said Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona. “Republicans have to understand we have lost this battle, as I predicted weeks ago, that we would not be able to win because we were demanding something that was not achievable.”

The sudden turn toward pessimism came 15 days into a government shutdown and two days before the Treasury exhausts its borrowing authority. At this point, the arguments have devolved from a major partisan showdown over the fate of President Obama’s signature domestic achievement to issues reduced in scope: whether White House and Congressional staff members be denied employer contributions to purchase their health care; whether a tax on medical devices, opposed by lawmakers in both parties, should be repealed, delayed for two years, or left alone; and whether a tax on self-insurers — large businesses and unions — that enter the health insurance exchanges should remain in force.

But if the issues seem small, the fights — largely now within the Republican Party — seem to be raging unabated.

“We’re trying to find a way forward in a bipartisan way that would continue to provide fairness to the American people under Obamacare,” Mr. Boehner said, even as he acknowledged that “there are a lot of opinions” among his fractious members.

Senate Republican leaders encouraged their rank and file to remain patient to see if Mr. Boehner could find anything that would unite his troops, fearing that moving first would undermine a speaker already squeezed between the Tea Party and more pragmatic members strongly urging him to reopen the government.

“Clearly they’re still working on it, and we want to be supportive of that effort,” said Senator John Hoeven, Republican of North Dakota.

Mr. Obama, in an interview taped Tuesday morning with WABC television in New York, said the bipartisan discussions in the Senate were “real good news” that suggested Republicans in that chamber understood that efforts to “extract ransom” was a bad strategy for them.

But he said that not all members of the party had gotten that message, adding that “I think the House Republicans still believe they can get concessions for doing their job.”

Still, Mr. Obama expressed confidence that a deal to reopen the government and lift the nation’s debt ceiling could be put in place by the time the nation loses its ability to manage its debts on Thursday.

“Because we have seen movement my expectation is that it does get solved, but we don’t have a lot of time,” Mr. Obama said.

Patience is growing thin. Senator Susan Collins, Republican of Maine, practically begged Senate leaders in both parties to move without the House, hoping that an overwhelming bipartisan vote would force Mr. Boehner to put the Senate-passed bill up for a vote.

“At this point, I think the Senate needs to lead, and we need to send over a plan to try to get government open,” she said.

Democratic aides in the Senate still expressed hope that Senate Republican leaders would move forward fast if the House remained stuck by the end of Tuesday.

If House Republicans fail, “that means the Senate will have to go,” said Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina. “That means that what we get out of the Senate is going to be less palatable, less good government, and it probably would pass mostly with Democratic votes, which I think puts Speaker Boehner in a compromised situation.”

Representative Adam Kinzinger, Republican of Illinois, said that if House Republicans could not rally behind a proposal from their leadership, they would most likely be forced to accept the plan taking shape in the Senate — something many Republican House members have already said is unacceptable.

“If our party can’t pass this, then there’s no doubt we’re going to end up with what the Senate sends us,” Mr. Kinzinger said. “Look, if my colleagues can’t muster together and sometimes accept good because they’re waiting for perfect, then that’s on them.”

House Democrats, along with one moderate House Republican, met Tuesday morning with the chief negotiators of a bipartisan Senate deal to reopen the government, signaling movement to force the plan to a vote in the House if it passes the Senate.

About 20 Democrats and Representative Charlie Dent, Republican of Pennsylvania, huddled for a half-hour with Senators Susan Collins, Republican of Maine, and Joe Manchin III, Democrat of West Virginia, who have been pushing the plan. Democrats emerged Tuesday morning united against any alternative that might emerge in the House.

If House Republicans cannot pass a counterproposal on their own, a bipartisan group in the House would demand a vote on the Senate bill. The same situation early this year allowed a bipartisan Senate reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act to pass the House with a minority of Republicans in support.

“It’s a bipartisan plan,” Representative Peter Welch, Democrat of Vermont, said of the Senate proposal.

Mr. Obama was scheduled to tape interviews with several local television anchors at the White House on Tuesday morning. In the afternoon, the president was set to award the Medal of Honor to Capt. William Swenson of the Army. His schedule also included a meeting with Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel on Tuesday afternoon.

But White House aides will be keeping a close eye on negotiations on Capitol Hill. An Oval Office meeting between Mr. Obama and the Congressional leadership was canceled on Monday afternoon to give lawmakers more time to negotiate the details of a deal. But another meeting could be scheduled at any time on Tuesday.

Other showdowns between Republican lawmakers and Mr. Obama have gone to the last minute; in 2011, lawmakers reached a deal to raise the debt ceiling two days before officials said a default was possible, resulting in a stock market plunge and the downgrading of the nation’s credit rating.

But the real possibility that as of Thursday the government would not be able to meet its obligations prompted grim warnings of an economic catastrophe that could ripple through stock markets, foreign capitals, corporate boardrooms, state budget offices and the bank accounts of everyday investors.

“If Republicans aren’t willing to set aside their partisan concerns in order to do what’s right for the country, we stand a good chance of defaulting,” Mr. Obama told reporters Monday at Martha’s Table, a Washington-area food bank, “and defaulting could have a potentially devastating effect on the economy.”

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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2013, 07:20:55 pm »

They're just playing chicken, like usual, before they somehow come up with a "last minute compromise". Whatever they put out won't be in the country's best interest, FWIW.

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« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2013, 09:16:28 pm »

http://finance.yahoo.com/video/house-reps-vote-tonight-reopening-194200403.html
Video: House of Reps. to vote tonight on reopening the govt
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CNBC's John Harwood reports the House of Representatives are to vote tonight to reopen the government and avoid a default.
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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2013, 04:56:24 am »

Yeah, these 11th hour agreements is when they sneak in all kinds of stuff that they don't inform the public on.
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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2013, 10:37:44 am »

Boehner's liberal side is showing

Sources say House Speaker Boehner is prepared to rely on Democratic votes to pass expected Senate bipartisan deal - @KellyO


Both sides confidant House will pass bipartisan Senate bill to raise debt limit, fund government; vote expected today, Democratic aide says - @ReutersPolitics


http://www.breakingnews.com/

Boehner Might Allow House Vote on Senate Bill
The speaker is considering a vote on the Senate-brokered deal, even if conservatives object.




Speaker John Boehner is considering letting the House take the initial vote Wednesday on a Senate-prepared bill to lift the debt ceiling and restart funding for the shuttered federal government--apparently even if House conservatives object.

If they do object, it would mean Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and her House Democrats could become critical to its passage.

"Boehner will need Pelosi votes," said one senior Democratic aide, familiar with what he described as the cross-party negotiations that have been occurring Wednesday morning.


"Not sure she'll give them, but I imagine she will."

Boehner's office had no comment. But a senior House GOP leadership aide confirmed the talk, saying the bill could go to the House rules committee in the next few hours.

The Democratic senior aide said House Democratic leaders already have been meeting Wednesday morning to discuss what to do.

Such a move by Boehner, if he decides to make it, would come as the administration's Thursday deadline for hiking the nation's $16.7 trillion borrowing cap is less than 24 hours away.

According to the aide, Boehner and the House would act first on Wednesday on a bill put together overnight in the Senate, will extend the debt limit until Feb. 7, and include a continuing resolution until Jan. 15, according to a source familiar with the negotiations.

The deal would also include a Dec. 15 deadline for a budget conference report, as well as an anti-fraud provision designed to verify income for those who receive subsidies under the Affordable Care Act.

The Senate would then take up the bill.

And because the House had taken up the bill first, its procedures would require then just one cloture vote. If the Senate were to first act on the bill on Wednesday, Republican hard-liners could object, and parliamentary rules could push final action to Friday or Saturday, instead.

Then, upon passage, the bill could be sent to the president for signing.

Senate leaders, according to the aide, are expected to come to terms with its plan at about 10 a.m.. The House is set to reconvene at about noon.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/congress/boehner-eyes-house-vote-on-senate-bill-20131016
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Tea Party Blasts Boehner "The Senate Deal Is A Complete Sellout"

While the House looks set to vote for the Senate bill and kick the can just a little down the road, the Washington Post reports that at least one tea party group is calling for Republicans to hold their ground.

    "The Senate deal is a complete sellout.  Speaker Boehner and the House should stand firm and reject this deal to reign in the executive branch’s power before it is too late,” 

     -Tea Party Patriots head Jenny Beth Martin said.

     “The House ‘leadership’ must stop playing ‘flinch’ with themselves, and instead, play hardball with the White House, the Senate, and the House. Otherwise, hard-working Americans are going to bear the burden of this unaffordable law (Obamacare). The American people will hold those responsible for this mess accountable.”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-16/tea-party-blasts-boehner-senate-deal-complete-sellout
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« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2013, 01:56:42 pm »

The Tea Party has been opposition-controlled from day 1.

1) They made Sarah Palin, who has no clue about the US Constitution, one of their leaders from day 1.

2) Marco Rubio's pro-amnesty beliefs were known since his days in the FLORIDA LEGISLATURE! But somehow they let him go under the radar?

3) That fake KJB-only "pastor" Steven Anderson spoke at Tea Party rallies. Nuff said.

4) One of the worst things they did was target Churchianity - 4 years ago when they came out, I remember how mainstream Churchianity forums were on board with them.

5) Apparently their agenda has been to get the GOP establishment to war within each other, hence making the GOP look foolish, and ultimately getting liberalism agendas pushed and the 2014 midterms rigged for the Dems.

Yes, I understand both political parties are merely opposite sides of the same coin - but nonetheless if/when the Dems win the 2014 midterms, the Hegelian Dialectic game will all but be over, as officially one party controlling the Executive and Legislative branches will be able to do anything they want.
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« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2013, 02:01:29 pm »

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/two-countrys-most-conservative-groups-135558653.html
Two Of The Country's Most Conservative Groups Helped Bail Out Harry Reid At The Last Minute
10/16/13

On Tuesday, it looked like Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid might be put into a tight spot.

GOP leadership in the House planned to disrupt the Senate negotiations by pushing its own bill to lift the debt ceiling and reopen the government.

The bill could have put Democrats including Harry Reid in an awkward spot because the GOP bill was not going to be wildly unreasonable — and because acquiescing to it would have been acquiescing to "ransom" demands.

In the end, Reid was not forced into a difficult position. And he got some help from unlikely sources.

First, around 5:15 p.m. Tuesday night, Heritage Action, an influential conservative group that has led the charge to "defund Obamacare" in recent months, came out and urged lawmakers to vote "no" on the House's legislation, arguing that it didn't do enough to change the Affordable Care Act.

About an hour later, FreedomWorks echoed Heritage's key vote of "no," with president and CEO Matt Kibbe saying the legislation amounted to a "full surrender" from Republicans on Obamacare.

A little while later, House GOP leadership shelved consideration of the legislation. A House GOP aide said that the legislation was "cooked" before the two conservative groups announced their opposition. But amid rising conservative angst, those two groups stuck the final knife in the House plan.

A Senate Democratic aide said that they would have preferred if the House passed legislation, because it would speed up the process in a race to the Oct. 17 debt-ceiling deadline.

"It  would provide us a vehicle and allow us to move more quickly through the Senate process," the aide said.

But the failure of the House legislation already appears to have done that, as Politico reports that the House may vote first on the Senate's emerging deal to reopen the government and raise the debt ceiling. If the House votes first, it would give the Senate an escape from weighty procedural hurdles and possibly allow the bill to come to President Barack Obama's desk by the deadline.

The House legislation's failure also resigned Speaker John Boehner to the inevitable — he will have to put the Senate bill on the House floor, even though it will have to pass with a majority of Democratic votes and, likely, a minority of Republicans.

The rank-and-file, by and large, is also quickly accepting the eventual end game. Rep. Sean Duffy (R-Wis.) told "Morning Joe" on Wednesday that the Senate legislation will pass the House. Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler (R-Wash.) said in a statement that "it's time to face reality."

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First, around 5:15 p.m. Tuesday night, Heritage Action, an influential conservative group that has led the charge to "defund Obamacare" in recent months, came out and urged lawmakers to vote "no" on the House's legislation, arguing that it didn't do enough to change the Affordable Care Act.


Look who's talking! It was the HERITAGE FOUNDATION that came up with this Individual Mandate idea 24 years ago that ultimately was put into Obamacare! Roll Eyes
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Senate leaders announce deal to end shutdown and avoid default

On the brink of a national default, the leaders of the Senate struck a deal Wednesday to reopen the federal government and extend its power to borrow money. The House appeared ready to go along — and end, at least for now, the crisis in Washington.

Sen. Harry Reid, the Democratic leader, said on the Senate floor at midday that his party and Republicans had found their way to a compromise to “provide our economy with the stability it desperately needs” and avert financial disaster.

His Republican counterpart, Sen. Mitch McConnell, offered his blessing: “This is far less than many of us had hoped for, frankly, but is far better than what some had sought.”
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There was no sign that Republicans had extracted any major concessions on President Barack Obama’s signature health care law, as they had hoped, other than possibly tighter scrutiny on who gets federal subsidies for insurance.

Speaker John Boehner confirmed to WLW radio in Ohio that he would allow a vote in the House, suggesting it would pass with overwhelming Democratic support and enough Republicans to win a majority.

“We fought the good fight,” he said. “We just didn’t win.”

You didnt fight you Liberal pansey, you just paraded in front of cameras, i so hope the people of Columbus vote you out of office.

The compromise would fund the federal government through Jan. 15 and extend the borrowing power, known as the debt ceiling, through Feb. 7. It also calls for an agreement by mid-December on a long-term budget plan.

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Defiant Ted Cruz rails against U.S. fiscal deal, but won't delay it @Reuters
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http://news.msn.com/us/us-house-passes-bill-to-reopen-govt-increase-debt-limit
Congress avoids default; federal workers back on Thurs
10/16/13

Passage of the bill late Wednesday in the House and Senate ended a Washington-created crisis that closed much of government for 16 days.

WASHINGTON — Up against a deadline, Congress passed and sent a waiting President Barack Obama legislation late Wednesday night to avoid a threatened national default and end the 16-day partial government shutdown, the culmination of an epic political drama that placed the U.S. economy at risk.

The Senate voted first, a bipartisan 81-18 at midevening. That cleared the way for a final 285-144 vote in the Republican-controlled House about two hours later on the legislation, which hewed strictly to the terms Obama laid down when the twin crises erupted more than three weeks ago.

The legislation would permit the Treasury to borrow normally through Feb. 7 or perhaps a month longer, and fund the government through Jan. 15. More than 2 million federal workers would be paid — those who had remained on the job and those who had been furloughed.
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House Stenographer Dragged Off Floor Yelling About Freemasons And God

As the House finished their vote to reopen the federal government and raise the debt ceiling, the House stenographer decided it was a good time to let everyone know her feelings about God, Congress, and the Freemasons.

“He [God] will not be mocked,” the stenographer, apparently named Molly, yelled into the microphone as she was dragged off by security. “The greatest deception here is that this is not one nation under God. It never was. It would not have been. The Constitution would not have been written by Freemasons. They go against God. You cannot serve two masters. Praise be to God. Praise be to Jesus.”

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« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2013, 04:03:35 am »

So, while this person is saying, correctly so, you can't serve two masters, what is she doing working for Satan, right there in the thick of "secular" government? No wonder she lost it!
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Yeah this House Stenographer woman is both doubleminded and unstable Roll Eyes
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Well, after 20 plus years, she ain’t working there no more. That’s for sure. Bye-bye paycheck.

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U.S. House stenographer Dianne Reidy was forced off the floor on Wednesday night following the House's passage of a debt limit resolution package, which would end the government shut down. Reidy, who has worked as a recorder for the House for over 20 years made her way to the Speaker's chair and began ranting, saying that America was not one nation under God.

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Here’s what happens to people that speak out for Christ from the belly of a secular government.

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Reidy was questioned by U.S. Capitol Police after her removal from the floor and was later taken to a local hospital for a mental health evaluation. It was not immediately clear whether criminal charges would be filed.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/17/stenographer-dragged-off-house-floor-after-protest/

God used a lowly stenographer last night to deliver a message to the most powerful levels of a secular government as well as to the American public. And now she pays the price for that.

What job doesn’t involve somehow, directly or indirectly, working for the temporary god of this world? We are not of the world, but we are most assuredly in the world.
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« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2013, 01:27:38 pm »

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What job doesn’t involve somehow, directly or indirectly, working for the temporary god of this world? We are not of the world, but we are most assuredly in the world.

That is the reality we face in "modern" society.

9  I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
10  Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.
11  But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
12  For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
13  But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
1 Corinthians 5:9-13 (KJB)


4  Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
5   Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy?
6  But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.
James 4:4-6 (KJB)


15  Love not the world, neither the things [that are] in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
16  For all that [is] in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
17  And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
1 John 2:15-17 (KJB)


20  But I [say], that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.
21  Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils.
22  Do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? are we stronger than he?
23  All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.
24  Let no man seek his own, but every man another's [wealth].
1 Corinthians 10:20-24 (KJB)
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« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2013, 02:21:46 pm »


From FNC CHAD PERGRAM:

Urgent: House Stenographer says Holy Spirit woke her up at night to deliver message to the House

Per Kaplan/Pergram-Capitol Hill

Karrah Kaplan spoke with the husband of House stenographer Dianne Reidy last night. There’s an emailed statement here from Dan Reidy.
First, from Dianne:

“For the past 2 and 1/2 weeks, the Holy Spirit has been waking me up in the
middle of the night and preparing me (through my reluctance and doubt) to deliver
a message in the House Chamber.
That is what I did last night”


Her husand Dan says “My wife is a sweet, level-headed wonderful woman of God. I am proud of her.”

Chad Pergram
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Senior Producer for Capitol Hill

http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2013/10/17/this-is-what-happened-click-to-read/
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« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2013, 02:52:36 pm »

That is the reality we face in "modern" society.

9  I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
10  Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.
11  But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
12  For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
13  But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
1 Corinthians 5:9-13 (KJB)


4  Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
5   Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy?
6  But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.
James 4:4-6 (KJB)


15  Love not the world, neither the things [that are] in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
16  For all that [is] in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
17  And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
1 John 2:15-17 (KJB)


20  But I [say], that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.
21  Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils.
22  Do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? are we stronger than he?
23  All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.
24  Let no man seek his own, but every man another's [wealth].
1 Corinthians 10:20-24 (KJB)


Good verses - also, if you work a secular full time job, it's hard to put much time outside of that in ministry, b/c the flesh is weak, and working 40-50 hours a week can really be a strain on the flesh.
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« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2013, 03:48:08 pm »

I believe God can enable and use any willing vessel at any time for His purposes.

This is regardless of the circumstance and regardless of whether or not that vessel filled out a W-4 form.
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« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2013, 03:55:18 pm »

I believe God can enable and use any willing vessel at any time for His purposes.

This is regardless of the circumstance and regardless of whether or not that vessel filled out a W-4 form.

Personally, I like to observe the reactions of everyone else - for example, was reading comments from a GOP establishment message forum, and their comments directed at this lady were like, "She's nothing but a conspiracy theorist!", while others said how these freemasonic organizations are nothing but "harmless" social clubs, while a couple of others denied their hero Ronald Reagan was a mason(even though pictures proved otherwise), and others viewed our US Constitution masonic founders as "heroes" so it didn't matter, etc.
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« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2013, 04:18:57 pm »

Sure shines a light on who is of the world at this point. To them, she is scary and needs to be sent off for a mental health evaluation after being interviewed by the police.

This reminds me of those congressmen that walked out during a prayer that confessed the sins of the government and asked for forgiveness. Some people just don’t know, nor do they want to know, the true living God and, therefore, treat those that do know Him as "foolish".  Some people love the works of darkness and fear exposure from the light of truth. The lines are becoming clearer as time goes on. There’s the world/devil and there’s the kingdom of heaven. Home is where the heart is.
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« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2013, 10:00:25 pm »

http://theprotestantview.com/?p=227

Ted Cruz a Freemason?



I was watching a video and noticed Ted Cruz giving this Freemason symbol pictured above. The video was talking about Ted Cruz and his “natural born citizen” and “dual citizenship” status. At the 2:30-2:34 mark he does this gesture. (The video of it is: )



Pictured above is the Freemason hand gesture known as the “Hidden Hand”.

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« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2013, 04:38:55 am »

I've never seen anybody put their hand inside their jacket like that. Hard to say it's not a Mason thing.
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House Stenographer Dragged Off Floor Yelling About Freemasons And God

As the House finished their vote to reopen the federal government and raise the debt ceiling, the House stenographer decided it was a good time to let everyone know her feelings about God, Congress, and the Freemasons.

“He [God] will not be mocked,” the stenographer, apparently named Molly, yelled into the microphone as she was dragged off by security. “The greatest deception here is that this is not one nation under God. It never was. It would not have been. The Constitution would not have been written by Freemasons. They go against God. You cannot serve two masters. Praise be to God. Praise be to Jesus.”

http://gawker.com/house-stenographer-dragged-off-floor-yelling-about-free-1446830813

I heard about that. At work, they have secular radio on, and the morning show AND afternoon show both blasted this lady and made fun of her.
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« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2013, 05:08:43 pm »

Just a follow up to the Diane Reidy story, The audio of her speaking actually occurred after she was escorted from the room. Yet, somehow, that audio was dubbed in to some YouTube videos of her in the House chamber as if that is what she was saying prior to being dragged off.

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Dianne Reidy’s Congressional Outburst: A Careful Examination

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On Thursday night, the House voted to re-open the Federal Government and raise the debt ceiling.  In a move that was meant to set the public mind at ease about the ability of the government to come together for the benefit of the people, a certain woman’s words seem to be dominating the majority of the headlines.  Dianne Reidy’s congressional outburst has captivated the nation.

A White House stenographer now identified as Dianne Reidy took to the dais at the House floor to deliver a rant that she describes as coming from the Holy Spirit.  After being removed from the House floor, she continued her rant into the hallway until she was ultimately forcibly escorted into an elevator.

While headlines range from naming Dianne as a prophetess to calling her a woman suffering from a psychotic break, I tend to find that the truth is being lost in the shuffle, so I want to examine what we actually KNOW about what happened, to see if we can inject some reason into the discourse.

The majority of reports about Dianne’s proclamations claim that they were recorded on the House floor. This is incorrect. In most all of the audio clips I’ve heard thus far, we are hearing what Dianne said IN THE HALLWAY outside of Congressional chambers, after she was removed from the dais.  Here is a video proving that to be the case:

VIDEO: Stenographer escorted off House floor after open-mic rant


Now, below you will see video of what we know about what was actually said ON the House floor.. which is precisely nothing, because although she methodically approached a microphone at the dais, there was no discernible audio captured.

Close up [Diane Reidy]House Stenographer Dragged Off Floor Yelling About Freemasons And God bizarre


So to recap, we actually have NO IDEA what Dianne said on the House floor, and the ONLY audio captured was taken from her continuing yelling in the hallway outside of chambers. The majority of mainstream reporting about the audio and timing of the rant and placement of the rant is just plain incorrect as I have just proven.

More:
http://extraordinaryintelligence.com/dianne-reidys-congressional-outburst/

There’s also some interest in the behavior of one of the congressmen that was talking to her seconds before she got up and walked directly to the podium.
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« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2013, 06:56:35 pm »

Very interesting - who knows why she was dragged out of the House floor to begin with - maybe she confided to that Congressman privately what she wanted to say publicly?

And yeah, I noticed that too a bit at first - heard the audio, but didn't see her say anything on the House floor.
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« Reply #29 on: October 27, 2013, 08:17:53 pm »

Wow. That video is extremely eye-opening. Shocked

Thanks for sharing!
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